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IF Khan gets passed by Kotelnik, there is a possibility he will face Marcos Chino Maidana.
This would be a great test for Khan and his chin will most definetely be tested. Question is, will Warren allow this fight to take place, especially after the Prescott fight?
Amir Khan May Be on a Collision Course with Marcos Chino Maidana | Bleacher Report
i like khan but i think theres not a prayer in hell warren lets him in with a puncher like maidanaQuote:
Originally Posted by sanchez786
Not a chance. The guy doesnt bring anything to the table, If Kahn beats Kotelnik i would bet my bottom doller we would rather go back down to 135 then face his mandatory.
On another note watched the Kotelnik Maidana fight last night I think Maidana won.
Massive risk no reward. Very unlikely. :)
Nah don't see it, If Khan gets past Kotelnik Warren would probably put him in the ring with
Malignaggi, a weak puncher.
If Khan gets in the ring with Maidana I would have the utmost respect for his guts because the Argentine is one mean muthaf*cka. However, I'm not that convinced that Khan beats Kotelnik yet so we'll see how that goes first
I would disagree that its only risk and no reward. Beating Maidana would instantly change a large segment of the boxing community's opinion of Khan, more so than Kotelnik really since people want to see Khan against a puncher. And I don't think its totally out of the question that he could, Maidana could get a bit overrated in the aftermath of the Ortiz fight.
There is no way Con can take half the punishment Ortiz took.
I thought Marcos Rene Maidana beat Andriy Kotlenik aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
True but Khan wouldn't take the same amount of chances Ortiz did, wouldnt' exchange like that and wouldn't get hit like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Maidana should be the favorite though as there are rumors going around that Khan's chin might not be the sturdiest.
I still felt Amir Khan was very hittable, MAB was still able to hit him. And Amir Khan felt the weight of those shots he was hit with aswell, despite his new high guard defense. He's still vunerable to hooks or looping punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanTrue but Khan wouldn't take the same amount of chances Ortiz did, wouldnt' exchange like that and wouldn't get hit like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Maidana should be the favorite though as there are rumors going around that Khan's chin might not be the sturdiest.
True but were talking about a legend in Barrera, granted a bit old but not far from almost edging an ATG in JMM, who had a good camp, no fires, nothing like what caused him to lose the first Pac fight. Obviously a much more accurate, technical fighter than Maidana.
Khan's defense sucks, he still managed to get marked up by Barrera for christ sake, Maidana would have ko'd Khan with half of any of the shots that he landed on OrtizQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanTrue but Khan wouldn't take the same amount of chances Ortiz did, wouldnt' exchange like that and wouldn't get hit like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Maidana should be the favorite though as there are rumors going around that Khan's chin might not be the sturdiest.
And the guy had one eye and looked kind of bloated and doesn't really have the power at 135 and still managed to rock Khan. I think Khan was wobbling a bit at the end of the 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
a pick malignaggi to ko khan dont think he would need great power to stop khanQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
would like to see khan face junior witter actually
Rumors? That's pretty much a factQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanTrue but Khan wouldn't take the same amount of chances Ortiz did, wouldnt' exchange like that and wouldn't get hit like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Maidana should be the favorite though as there are rumors going around that Khan's chin might not be the sturdiest.
I don't know man, I think you're underestimating the importance of a good camp and overestimating this male bloating thing. MAB was cut sure but Khan was just too fast, he wins that one cut or no cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogAnd the guy had one eye and looked kind of bloated and doesn't really have the power at 135 and still managed to rock Khan. I think Khan was wobbling a bit at the end of the 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I agree Khan would have beaten MAB regardless,he's just to fast and hungry for him at the twilight of his career...but Amir always seems to be a decent connection away from being KO'd himself..Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanI don't know man, I think you're underestimating the importance of a good camp and overestimating this male bloating thing. MAB was cut sure but Khan was just too fast, he wins that one cut or no cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogAnd the guy had one eye and looked kind of bloated and doesn't really have the power at 135 and still managed to rock Khan. I think Khan was wobbling a bit at the end of the 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I just wonder wether he has the ability to absorb an opponents punches as he progresses through the Divisions!
To be honest though that fight against JMM, was 2 years ago and at a different weightclass. 2 years make a big difference, plus he didn't look that good in his two warm up fights prior to the Amir Khan fight. And he was cut bad in one of those fights aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I don't think you can really tell how good Amir Khan, really was against MAB. He got cut badly in the opening seconds, and he had no chance to get into the fight.
Plus he was undersized and it was a mismatch size wise, the thing that worried me is that MAB was still able to shake up. Amir Khan with the punches he did land.
I think Amir Khan would of beat that MAB, even without Freddie Roach. It wasn't like MAB really had a chance with that cut, which really should of been a no-conest.
Amir Khan is still vunerable to hooks and looping shots as i said, and i still think he gets KO'ed when he meets a goodish fighter with a big punch. He has the skills but he's far too fragile.
If Maidana and Khan do fight I will bet everything I have that Maidana knocks the living shit out of Khan. Khan's china chin will break and have a massive shattering sound.
There is no way that will happen though Roach and Warren are shitting bricks just thinking of having Maidana in the ring with Khan.
this fight wont happen mainly because Maidana is a huge puncher. Khan will have to fight the rest of his career without fighting big punchers.
I had to read that twiceQuote:
Originally Posted by TRIGGERMAN
If this fight ever comes off, it would be nighty, night for Kahn in 3 rounds or less. :boxingmatch:
Missy will sniff this out within 2.5 mins of logging on. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanI don't know man, I think you're underestimating the importance of a good camp and overestimating this male bloating thing. MAB was cut sure but Khan was just too fast, he wins that one cut or no cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogAnd the guy had one eye and looked kind of bloated and doesn't really have the power at 135 and still managed to rock Khan. I think Khan was wobbling a bit at the end of the 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Im hardly the biggest khan mark but i dont think he`d have too many problems seeing off maidana.
Kotelnik struggled against him because of his awkward style but he was clearly on the night the better fighter. Khan will outbox kotelnik as he would maidana and he would just batter ortiz quicker than maidana did.
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Originally Posted by mofo2I agree Khan would have beaten MAB regardless,he's just to fast and hungry for him at the twilight of his career...but Amir always seems to be a decent connection away from being KO'd himself..Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanI don't know man, I think you're underestimating the importance of a good camp and overestimating this male bloating thing. MAB was cut sure but Khan was just too fast, he wins that one cut or no cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
I just wonder wether he has the ability to absorb an opponents punches as he progresses through the Divisions!
;D;D;D As if.
To talk of Khan battering anyone above domestic and dodgy european level strikes me as funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
He battered Ortiz in the amatuers. He gave him 3 standing counts. He's well capable of battering plenty of decent level fighters. He's also capable of getting ko'd himself. To me that's a good thing. Makes him exciting. That's the reason i watch Boxing. So i'm happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyTo talk of Khan battering anyone above domestic and dodgy european level strikes me as funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
They like those quick pitter-patter shots in the ams.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoHe battered Ortiz in the amatuers. He gave him 3 standing counts. He's well capable of battering plenty of decent level fighters. He's also capable of getting ko'd himself. To me that's a good thing. Makes him exciting. That's the reason i watch Boxing. So i'm happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyTo talk of Khan battering anyone above domestic and dodgy european level strikes me as funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
btw nice sig. :cool:
True, Calzaghe did alright with them though. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyThey like those quick pitter-patter shots in the ams.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoHe battered Ortiz in the amatuers. He gave him 3 standing counts. He's well capable of battering plenty of decent level fighters. He's also capable of getting ko'd himself. To me that's a good thing. Makes him exciting. That's the reason i watch Boxing. So i'm happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
btw nice sig. :cool:
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Originally Posted by onoTrue, Calzaghe did alright with them though. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyThey like those quick pitter-patter shots in the ams.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
btw nice sig. :cool:
God no! We're just got rid of one over rated slapper:o
Just realised Clazaghe could take a decent shot aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by onoTrue, Calzaghe did alright with them though. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
God no! We're just got rid of one over rated slapper:o
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Originally Posted by onoJust realised Clazaghe could take a decent shot aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
God no! We're just got rid of one over rated slapper:o
unlike...?:cool:
I don't know what you're trying to say Missy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by onoJust realised Clazaghe could take a decent shot aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
unlike...?:cool:
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Originally Posted by onoI don't know what you're trying to say Missy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
unlike...?:cool:
http://www.irishnews.com/webimages/2...portsnews9.jpg
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Originally Posted by onoHe battered Ortiz in the amatuers. He gave him 3 standing counts. He's well capable of battering plenty of decent level fighters. He's also capable of getting ko'd himself. To me that's a good thing. Makes him exciting. That's the reason i watch Boxing. So i'm happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyTo talk of Khan battering anyone above domestic and dodgy european level strikes me as funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Khans speed, power, agility etc just cannot be brought into question. He won silver in athens (won the rematch easily) has already been in with genuinely decent opponents that he has made light work of and has even been taken on by the worlds best trainer who doesnt take on losers.
Without question his chin has been a concern right from the start and the prescott fight highlighted that perfectly. If you dont have punch resistance at 135/140 your not going to get anywhere. Roach can teach khan not to get hit as much but he cant teach him how to take a punch.
Khan has the ability, he doesnt have the punch resistance. What will win out in the coming years is to be seen
He's still toss and I say he lacks power.
That rematch was very suspect, the whole thing stunk of a set-up to 'prove' he should have got gold.
Agreed, I'm a Khan fan (blame yourself Missy, you & miles drove me to it), however the Kindelan fight was as fixed as I've seen. Anyone who knows anything about amateur scoring could tell that Kindelan was doing more, however Warren had clearly bribed someone to give it to Khan. I got the impression Kindelan could have dropped Khan cold, & the judges would have still scored it for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Does this mean if I start cheering for him you'll dislike him?Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinAgreed, I'm a Khan fan (blame yourself Missy, you & miles drove me to it), however the Kindelan fight was as fixed as I've seen. Anyone who knows anything about amateur scoring could tell that Kindelan was doing more, however Warren had clearly bribed someone to give it to Khan. I got the impression Kindelan could have dropped Khan cold, & the judges would have still scored it for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy