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Does anyone have any idea whats happening with Kelly Pavlik? Since the cancellation of the Sergio Mora fight, theres been hardly any news on the middleweight champ whatsoever (apart from the story that he was having trouble with alcohol addiction which was later quashed by him and his team). If anyones got any info i would much appreciate it as Pavlik is one of my favourite fighters and i cant wait to see him in action again.
Last I heard was Arum telling Steve Bunce that they're working with HBO to set up a October unification with Felix Sturm. I've recently heard HBO lowballed the fight with a shitty offer, so watch this space.
Thanks for reply mate. Yeah i heard that too about a Sturm fight but i thought that maybe talks for it had stopped as ive not heard anything on it since, hope it does happen though, that would be a great fight to look forward to!
He's been attending "AA" sessions. Gettin' his shyt up straight.
Well don't count a match between Pavlik and Mora out yet. Looks like Sturm is not going to happen, he definitely won't be fighting Abraham this year, and I know for a fact, that Mora is fighting for his rights to the fight legally. If Kelly fights someone else, Arum is going to have to pay Mora off to do so.
Top Rank, and Pavlik signed a contract for the fight, and he's holding them to it. I know a lot of people here don't like this fight, but if they signed a contract, and then the fight gets cancelled because of bull$hit on their end, they should still honor that contract.
I can't argue with that. They should have just got the damn fight out of the way already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
I agree with that also. I would like to see the Sturm fight come off (from a fans perspective), but its only fair to go with the original plan and give Mora his shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
PS, cool sig Diane.
Exactly. The Mora fight did not come off because of a dispute between Pavlik and Arum. That has since been worked out, and Arum and Pavlik want to go a different direction now; however, Mora has a contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Nevertheless, I think we will see Pavlik back on HBO in the fall.
Yeah i hope we see Pavlik in the ring again soon. Kellys the champion and boxers with his kind of style dont normally have long careers anyway. He needs to be fighting more.
It's all gone a bit pear shaped since the Hopkins fight. I hope he can fix himself up and get fighting soon. He's the type of fighter that needs to be fighting 3 times a year. It's a waste to spend this time without learning new things.
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Originally Posted by Diane
The only chance anyone EVER has of fighting arthur abraham is if they have a decidedly average record, dont mind spending 7-8 rounds hitting someone that doesnt wanna fight and must consider fighting outside of germany sickening!!
There are no decent fights out there for kelly hence the reason he should move up to 168 and mix it up with the likes of kessler, bute, froch etc
Pavlik is a real ghost now, so bad, he is my kind of fighter hope we will see him soon :D
Kelly seems to be doing fine. Just seen him on the golf course, he has an outing coming up. He is in good shape still getting his gym work in, ready for the best option. I for one would like to see him fight Mora. All in all just trying to keep a low profile and squash all the haters.
Was he using a bottle of Jack Daniels as a 9 iron?Quote:
Originally Posted by mexirican
Na none at all, he swings a pretty good golf game
Not funny at all, pretty immature and useless commentQuote:
Originally Posted by KelWas he using a bottle of Jack Daniels as a 9 iron?Quote:
Originally Posted by mexirican
Ah shaddup you boring old fart:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mexiricanNot funny at all, pretty immature and useless commentQuote:
Originally Posted by KelWas he using a bottle of Jack Daniels as a 9 iron?Quote:
Originally Posted by mexirican
Ya guess it's all fun, just tired of hearing all those type of jokes, everyone had a joke around here except Pavlik of course, it's just old now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KelAh shaddup you boring old fart:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mexiricanNot funny at all, pretty immature and useless commentQuote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Paul Williams wants to fight him.
Sturm fighting another champion? Sorry, I can't see it. I see Pavlik and Abraham eventually unifying the titles with Sturm hiding in the shadows.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I agree with him moving up in weight. I think he has some cleaning up to do with Abraham and Sturm but with my statement above, I don't see Sturm trying to fight either man. So if Pavlik can get past Abraham, it's time for him to move up and fight a much more live division at 168.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
The only chance anyone EVER has of fighting arthur abraham is if they have a decidedly average record, dont mind spending 7-8 rounds hitting someone that doesnt wanna fight and must consider fighting outside of germany sickening!!
There are no decent fights out there for kelly hence the reason he should move up to 168 and mix it up with the likes of kessler, bute, froch etc
Well C-Lo, I don't see Pavlik vs Abraham ever happening. Abraham is going to be tied up with that SMW tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-LoSturm fighting another champion? Sorry, I can't see it. I see Pavlik and Abraham eventually unifying the titles with Sturm hiding in the shadows.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I agree with him moving up in weight. I think he has some cleaning up to do with Abraham and Sturm but with my statement above, I don't see Sturm trying to fight either man. So if Pavlik can get past Abraham, it's time for him to move up and fight a much more live division at 168.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
The only chance anyone EVER has of fighting arthur abraham is if they have a decidedly average record, dont mind spending 7-8 rounds hitting someone that doesnt wanna fight and must consider fighting outside of germany sickening!!
There are no decent fights out there for kelly hence the reason he should move up to 168 and mix it up with the likes of kessler, bute, froch etc
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Originally Posted by C-LoSturm fighting another champion? Sorry, I can't see it. I see Pavlik and Abraham eventually unifying the titles with Sturm hiding in the shadows.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I agree with him moving up in weight. I think he has some cleaning up to do with Abraham and Sturm but with my statement above, I don't see Sturm trying to fight either man. So if Pavlik can get past Abraham, it's time for him to move up and fight a much more live division at 168.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
The only chance anyone EVER has of fighting arthur abraham is if they have a decidedly average record, dont mind spending 7-8 rounds hitting someone that doesnt wanna fight and must consider fighting outside of germany sickening!!
There are no decent fights out there for kelly hence the reason he should move up to 168 and mix it up with the likes of kessler, bute, froch etc
Sturm is actually one of those rare german fighters who doesnt mind sticking his money where his mouth is and i think he`d wanna fight AA.
Dont see the fight happening in germany though. There would be too much to lose for sauerland by sticking their best guys in with eachother rather than just selling them seperately on their own individual cards.
Seriously if king arthur doesnt pull his finger out soon he is gonna get a ottke like reputation
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Originally Posted by pavlikfan
He's probly still licking his wounds from the Hopkins fight when he was totally exposed!:-\
Do you not pay attention to anything? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by C-LoSturm fighting another champion? Sorry, I can't see it. I see Pavlik and Abraham eventually unifying the titles with Sturm hiding in the shadows.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I agree with him moving up in weight. I think he has some cleaning up to do with Abraham and Sturm but with my statement above, I don't see Sturm trying to fight either man. So if Pavlik can get past Abraham, it's time for him to move up and fight a much more live division at 168.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Sturm is actually one of those rare german fighters who doesnt mind sticking his money where his mouth is and i think he`d wanna fight AA.
Dont see the fight happening in germany though. There would be too much to lose for sauerland by sticking their best guys in with eachother rather than just selling them seperately on their own individual cards.
Seriously if king arthur doesnt pull his finger out soon he is gonna get a ottke like reputation
Abraham is going to be tied up in that SMW tournament for the next 2 years, where he's going to start out facing Taylor, then Dirrell, and then Froch, and if he advances he could face Kessler. So I would say his finger is pulled out, because he's going up against some good competition in a weight class that he's just now moving into.
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Originally Posted by DianeDo you not pay attention to anything? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by C-Lo
Sturm is actually one of those rare german fighters who doesnt mind sticking his money where his mouth is and i think he`d wanna fight AA.
Dont see the fight happening in germany though. There would be too much to lose for sauerland by sticking their best guys in with eachother rather than just selling them seperately on their own individual cards.
Seriously if king arthur doesnt pull his finger out soon he is gonna get a ottke like reputation
Abraham is going to be tied up in that SMW tournament for the next 2 years, where he's going to start out facing Taylor, then Dirrell, and then Froch, and if he advances he could face Kessler. So I would say his finger is pulled out, because he's going up against some good competition in a weight class that he just now moving into.
So you genuinely believe everyone of those guys competing in that tournament wont wanna make a bit of money on the side by fighting someone else or do you seriously believe their contract will state they cannot fight anyone else for another 2 years?
And stop pigeon holeing me, your getting annoying now and a c*nting off is primed and ready to be directed at your direction!
Ohhh, I'm scared. :peeker:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by DianeDo you not pay attention to anything? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Abraham is going to be tied up in that SMW tournament for the next 2 years, where he's going to start out facing Taylor, then Dirrell, and then Froch, and if he advances he could face Kessler. So I would say his finger is pulled out, because he's going up against some good competition in a weight class that he just now moving into.
So you genuinely believe everyone of those guys competing in that tournament wont wanna make a bit of money on the side by fighting someone else or do you seriously believe their contract will state they cannot fight anyone else for another 2 years?
And stop pigeon holeing me, your getting annoying now and a c*nting off is primed and ready to be directed at your direction!
:rolleyes:
And to answer your question, sure they may take some fights in between, but I don't think that they will take a fight against anybody that stands a chance at really injuring, or beating them. It will probably be more like a keep busy fight, and that's it. They need to be able to fight at their best in order to advance into the semi's and the final, which I'm guessing will mean that with each advancement, will come a higher pay. So why would they take a chance of screwing it up? You think these guys don't want to have the bragging rights of winning this whole thing?
I read on bad left hook that there are rumors circulating Carl Froch will fight Kelly Pavlik on October 3rd and yes that probably would mean Froch would be out of the Showtime tournament. But, substitute in Bute and maybe that is a good thing?
Well the reports on the tournament are, that Froch is supposed to be at the press conference on Monday, so the fight against Pavlik, can be just that, a rumor. I guess we'll find out on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Well i still think Kelly can beat the like of the King and Froch just becuse Hopkins beat him does not mean he can win against those guys.
I just read that Kelly said HBO offered him $2 million to fight Sturm & he turned them down calling the offer "peanuts". He must have forgotten the beating BHop gave him & why does he think fighting Sturm would get him the same sort of money he made against Hopkins or Taylor?