Wheres Kelly Pavlik and whens he gonna be back?

**Diane** · 07-10-2009 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by C-Lo

Originally Posted by bzkfn

Last I heard was Arum telling Steve Bunce that they're working with HBO to set up a October unification with Felix Sturm. I've recently heard HBO lowballed the fight with a shitty offer, so watch this space.

Sturm fighting another champion? Sorry, I can't see it. I see Pavlik and Abraham eventually unifying the titles with Sturm hiding in the shadows.

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

The only chance anyone EVER has of fighting arthur abraham is if they have a decidedly average record, dont mind spending 7-8 rounds hitting someone that doesnt wanna fight and must consider fighting outside of germany sickening!!

There are no decent fights out there for kelly hence the reason he should move up to 168 and mix it up with the likes of kessler, bute, froch etc

I agree with him moving up in weight. I think he has some cleaning up to do with Abraham and Sturm but with my statement above, I don't see Sturm trying to fight either man. So if Pavlik can get past Abraham, it's time for him to move up and fight a much more live division at 168.

Sturm is actually one of those rare german fighters who doesnt mind sticking his money where his mouth is and i think he`d wanna fight AA.

Dont see the fight happening in germany though. There would be too much to lose for sauerland by sticking their best guys in with eachother rather than just selling them seperately on their own individual cards.

Seriously if king arthur doesnt pull his finger out soon he is gonna get a ottke like reputation

Do you not pay attention to anything?

Abraham is going to be tied up in that SMW tournament for the next 2 years, where he's going to start out facing Taylor, then Dirrell, and then Froch, and if he advances he could face Kessler. So I would say his finger is pulled out, because he's going up against some good competition in a weight class that he's just now moving into.

**HattonTheHammer** · 07-10-2009 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Diane

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by C-Lo

Sturm fighting another champion? Sorry, I can't see it. I see Pavlik and Abraham eventually unifying the titles with Sturm hiding in the shadows.

I agree with him moving up in weight. I think he has some cleaning up to do with Abraham and Sturm but with my statement above, I don't see Sturm trying to fight either man. So if Pavlik can get past Abraham, it's time for him to move up and fight a much more live division at 168.

Sturm is actually one of those rare german fighters who doesnt mind sticking his money where his mouth is and i think he`d wanna fight AA.

Dont see the fight happening in germany though. There would be too much to lose for sauerland by sticking their best guys in with eachother rather than just selling them seperately on their own individual cards.

Seriously if king arthur doesnt pull his finger out soon he is gonna get a ottke like reputation

Do you not pay attention to anything?

Abraham is going to be tied up in that SMW tournament for the next 2 years, where he's going to start out facing Taylor, then Dirrell, and then Froch, and if he advances he could face Kessler. So I would say his finger is pulled out, because he's going up against some good competition in a weight class that he just now moving into.

So you genuinely believe everyone of those guys competing in that tournament wont wanna make a bit of money on the side by fighting someone else or do you seriously believe their contract will state they cannot fight anyone else for another 2 years?

And stop pigeon holeing me, your getting annoying now and a c*nting off is primed and ready to be directed at your direction!

**Diane** · 07-10-2009 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by Diane

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Sturm is actually one of those rare german fighters who doesnt mind sticking his money where his mouth is and i think he`d wanna fight AA.

Dont see the fight happening in germany though. There would be too much to lose for sauerland by sticking their best guys in with eachother rather than just selling them seperately on their own individual cards.

Seriously if king arthur doesnt pull his finger out soon he is gonna get a ottke like reputation

Do you not pay attention to anything?

Abraham is going to be tied up in that SMW tournament for the next 2 years, where he's going to start out facing Taylor, then Dirrell, and then Froch, and if he advances he could face Kessler. So I would say his finger is pulled out, because he's going up against some good competition in a weight class that he just now moving into.

So you genuinely believe everyone of those guys competing in that tournament wont wanna make a bit of money on the side by fighting someone else or do you seriously believe their contract will state they cannot fight anyone else for another 2 years?

And stop pigeon holeing me, your getting annoying now and a c*nting off is primed and ready to be directed at your direction!

Ohhh, I'm scared.

And to answer your question, sure they may take some fights in between, but I don't think that they will take a fight against anybody that stands a chance at really injuring, or beating them. It will probably be more like a keep busy fight, and that's it. They need to be able to fight at their best in order to advance into the semi's and the final, which I'm guessing will mean that with each advancement, will come a higher pay. So why would they take a chance of screwing it up? You think these guys don't want to have the bragging rights of winning this whole thing?

**Rantcatrat** · 07-10-2009 12:30 PM

I read on bad left hook that there are rumors circulating Carl Froch will fight Kelly Pavlik on October 3rd and yes that probably would mean Froch would be out of the Showtime tournament. But, substitute in Bute and maybe that is a good thing?

**Diane** · 07-10-2009 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

I read on bad left hook that there are rumors circulating Carl Froch will fight Kelly Pavlik on October 3rd and yes that probably would mean Froch would be out of the Showtime tournament. But, substitute in Bute and maybe that is a good thing?

Well the reports on the tournament are, that Froch is supposed to be at the press conference on Monday, so the fight against Pavlik, can be just that, a rumor. I guess we'll find out on Monday.