If he`s going to retire can he just make it official so we can all bask in what has been a truly spectacular career by an amazing technician.
Or can we just please shove in 1-2 more fights and have him own dawson and adamek PLEASE
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If he`s going to retire can he just make it official so we can all bask in what has been a truly spectacular career by an amazing technician.
Or can we just please shove in 1-2 more fights and have him own dawson and adamek PLEASE
I think he'd handle Adamek.
Dawson's speed could pose some issues though. If you look at him in the later stages of his career its speed that has given him problems.
I suspect he fights again.
I don't miss him. He's been a boring old bastard for nigh on half a decade now. I used to be a fan, but his style has begun to grate horribly. Admittedly, he looked decent against Pavlik, but Pavlik was 5kg's beyond what he should have been fighting at and seemed seriously under the weather. I don't think it was solely because Hopkins is that good.
I hope he retires really. I can see him getting shown up horribly against someone like Adamek or Dawson.
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Originally Posted by miles
Anyone can blow a guy out with fast hand speed, power etc
But a guy who is 44 has been boxing with the big boys for over 17 years now and is still yet to be floored.
Even youve got admit miles thats pretty fucking incredible??
I wont miss the boring old sod.
Stay up til 4am to watch him ulgy a fight to death. Great stuff.
He'll choose Tomasz Adamek who is good, but is a very winnable fight for Bernard Hopkins. If Chad Dawson can almost shut out Tomasz Adamek i don't see why Bernard Hopkins can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
His longevity is quite remarkable. No doubts about that. But his style is so ugly and it's becoming more like an old man looking to fight for 30 seconds and the rest of the time just trying to breathe his way through the round.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Anyone can blow a guy out with fast hand speed, power etc
But a guy who is 44 has been boxing with the big boys for over 17 years now and is still yet to be floored.
Even youve got admit miles thats pretty fucking incredible??
I have no inclination to see him fight on. And he is all about fighters going up in weight to face him. Winky, Calzaghe and Pavlik. Winky and Pavlik were horribly beyond their normal fighting weights. Calzaghe showed him for what he is now.
He had a great career throughout a fair part of his 30's. But I have lost interest.
Hopkins was floored twice by Mercado. He's also a defensive first fighter, especially later in his career, so hardly surprising he hasn't been down much.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Anyone can blow a guy out with fast hand speed, power etc
But a guy who is 44 has been boxing with the big boys for over 17 years now and is still yet to be floored.
Even youve got admit miles thats pretty fucking incredible??
True but the high altitude effected Bernard Hopkins, he didn't prepare himself properly plus he gave Sergundo Mercado, a whooping in the 2nd fight. Plus my doubts about his chin erased when he took bombs off Antwun Echols without even blinking who is a big puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHopkins was floored twice by Mercado. He's also a defensive first fighter, especially later in his career, so hardly surprising he hasn't been down much.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Anyone can blow a guy out with fast hand speed, power etc
But a guy who is 44 has been boxing with the big boys for over 17 years now and is still yet to be floored.
Even youve got admit miles thats pretty fucking incredible??
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Originally Posted by milesHis longevity is quite remarkable. No doubts about that. But his style is so ugly and it's becoming more like an old man looking to fight for 30 seconds and the rest of the time just trying to breathe his way through the round.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Anyone can blow a guy out with fast hand speed, power etc
But a guy who is 44 has been boxing with the big boys for over 17 years now and is still yet to be floored.
Even youve got admit miles thats pretty fucking incredible??
I have no inclination to see him fight on. And he is all about fighters going up in weight to face him. Winky, Calzaghe and Pavlik. Winky and Pavlik were horribly beyond their normal fighting weights. Calzaghe showed him for what he is now.
He had a great career throughout a fair part of his 30's. But I have lost interest.
The guy is arguably up there with the likes of hearns, hagler and duran as one of the greatest 160ers and had he of realised he could no longer make the weight properly before the taylor fights came along and moved up weights he would right now be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.
Sure he wasnt exactly an arturo gatti or MAB but boxings about much more than just out and out fighting and during the 90s hopkins proved time and time again a world class technician will always beat a brawler
I told you that. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBTrue but the high altitude effected Bernard Hopkins, he didn't prepare himself properly plus he gave Sergundo Mercado, a whooping in the 2nd fight. Plus my doubts about his chin erased when he took bombs off Antwun Echols without even blinking who is a big puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHopkins was floored twice by Mercado. He's also a defensive first fighter, especially later in his career, so hardly surprising he hasn't been down much.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I actually thought MAB was a fantastic technical fighter, he certainly turned into much more of a boxer after the Junior Jones losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by milesHis longevity is quite remarkable. No doubts about that. But his style is so ugly and it's becoming more like an old man looking to fight for 30 seconds and the rest of the time just trying to breathe his way through the round.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I have no inclination to see him fight on. And he is all about fighters going up in weight to face him. Winky, Calzaghe and Pavlik. Winky and Pavlik were horribly beyond their normal fighting weights. Calzaghe showed him for what he is now.
He had a great career throughout a fair part of his 30's. But I have lost interest.
The guy is arguably up there with the likes of hearns, hagler and duran as one of the greatest 160ers and had he of realised he could no longer make the weight properly before the taylor fights came along and moved up weights he would right now be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.
Sure he wasnt exactly an arturo gatti or MAB but boxings about much more than just out and out fighting and during the 90s hopkins proved time and time again a world class technician will always beat a brawler
yhh come on one mo fite
very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBI actually thought MAB was a fantastic technical fighter, he certainly turned into much more of a boxer after the Junior Jones losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
The guy is arguably up there with the likes of hearns, hagler and duran as one of the greatest 160ers and had he of realised he could no longer make the weight properly before the taylor fights came along and moved up weights he would right now be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.
Sure he wasnt exactly an arturo gatti or MAB but boxings about much more than just out and out fighting and during the 90s hopkins proved time and time again a world class technician will always beat a brawler
but he could still scrap it out with the best of them on his day
Barrera is a more complete boxer for me. I love watching him fight and his evolution has been an act of class.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammervery trueQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBI actually thought MAB was a fantastic technical fighter, he certainly turned into much more of a boxer after the Junior Jones losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
but he could still scrap it out with the best of them on his day
Hopkins is undeniably a bit boring these days.
He just know ho to survive the game, and that makes him a boring fighter.
Only ho and no biblical influence? How jolly boring? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION
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Originally Posted by dee_z_r
Well said:)
zzzzzzzzzzzzzWlad..now that's a boring fighter
Mercado 1
Mercado 2
Johnson
De la Hoya
Taylor 1
Trinidad
Pavlik
anyone care to tell me in what part of any of these fights hopkins was perceived to be boring yet was the guy on the offensive on every occasion
I think the criticism for Bhop in this thread is ridiculous... I mean it just depends on exactly whast one likes watching.. The fact is that Bernard is 44, it stands to reason that fighting elite fighters much younger thasn him he SHOULD lose.... Facts are that every subtle thing he does is completely masterful, he negates lacking athletecism with a complete mastery of how to move, when to punch, how to feint, etc. This sport is by no means all about who puts forth the most forward motion in attacking an opponent. You've got to realize that every time Hopkins fights recently, he's in against a guy who can pull the trigger as fast and harder than he can. Therefore every single move he makes in the ring is monumental to his coming out of there unscathed. I feel therefore that people who call him boring simply don't appreciate the way he uses the ring, his footwork and timing, etc. It's really quite simple. How can one be a boring fighter if nooone can really lay hands on him? Is it no exciting to watch a complete mastery of the sport? I don't get it.
Also add his fight with Antwun Echols and any of his early fights, when he was kicking ass and taking names.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer