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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    Anyone can blow a guy out with fast hand speed, power etc

    But a guy who is 44 has been boxing with the big boys for over 17 years now and is still yet to be floored.

    Even youve got admit miles thats pretty fucking incredible??
    His longevity is quite remarkable. No doubts about that. But his style is so ugly and it's becoming more like an old man looking to fight for 30 seconds and the rest of the time just trying to breathe his way through the round.

    I have no inclination to see him fight on. And he is all about fighters going up in weight to face him. Winky, Calzaghe and Pavlik. Winky and Pavlik were horribly beyond their normal fighting weights. Calzaghe showed him for what he is now.

    He had a great career throughout a fair part of his 30's. But I have lost interest.

    The guy is arguably up there with the likes of hearns, hagler and duran as one of the greatest 160ers and had he of realised he could no longer make the weight properly before the taylor fights came along and moved up weights he would right now be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.

    Sure he wasnt exactly an arturo gatti or MAB but boxings about much more than just out and out fighting and during the 90s hopkins proved time and time again a world class technician will always beat a brawler
    I actually thought MAB was a fantastic technical fighter, he certainly turned into much more of a boxer after the Junior Jones losses.

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    Default Re: missing B-Hop...

    yhh come on one mo fite

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee_z_r View Post
    yhh come on one mo fite


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    Default Re: missing B-Hop...

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzWlad..now that's a boring fighter

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    Mercado 1
    Mercado 2
    Johnson
    De la Hoya
    Taylor 1
    Trinidad
    Pavlik


    anyone care to tell me in what part of any of these fights hopkins was perceived to be boring yet was the guy on the offensive on every occasion
    one dangerous horrible bloke

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    I think the criticism for Bhop in this thread is ridiculous... I mean it just depends on exactly whast one likes watching.. The fact is that Bernard is 44, it stands to reason that fighting elite fighters much younger thasn him he SHOULD lose.... Facts are that every subtle thing he does is completely masterful, he negates lacking athletecism with a complete mastery of how to move, when to punch, how to feint, etc. This sport is by no means all about who puts forth the most forward motion in attacking an opponent. You've got to realize that every time Hopkins fights recently, he's in against a guy who can pull the trigger as fast and harder than he can. Therefore every single move he makes in the ring is monumental to his coming out of there unscathed. I feel therefore that people who call him boring simply don't appreciate the way he uses the ring, his footwork and timing, etc. It's really quite simple. How can one be a boring fighter if nooone can really lay hands on him? Is it no exciting to watch a complete mastery of the sport? I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Mercado 1
    Mercado 2
    Johnson
    De la Hoya
    Taylor 1
    Trinidad
    Pavlik


    anyone care to tell me in what part of any of these fights hopkins was perceived to be boring yet was the guy on the offensive on every occasion
    Also add his fight with Antwun Echols and any of his early fights, when he was kicking ass and taking names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post

    His longevity is quite remarkable. No doubts about that. But his style is so ugly and it's becoming more like an old man looking to fight for 30 seconds and the rest of the time just trying to breathe his way through the round.

    I have no inclination to see him fight on. And he is all about fighters going up in weight to face him. Winky, Calzaghe and Pavlik. Winky and Pavlik were horribly beyond their normal fighting weights. Calzaghe showed him for what he is now.

    He had a great career throughout a fair part of his 30's. But I have lost interest.

    The guy is arguably up there with the likes of hearns, hagler and duran as one of the greatest 160ers and had he of realised he could no longer make the weight properly before the taylor fights came along and moved up weights he would right now be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.

    Sure he wasnt exactly an arturo gatti or MAB but boxings about much more than just out and out fighting and during the 90s hopkins proved time and time again a world class technician will always beat a brawler
    I actually thought MAB was a fantastic technical fighter, he certainly turned into much more of a boxer after the Junior Jones losses.
    very true

    but he could still scrap it out with the best of them on his day
    one dangerous horrible bloke

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    The guy is arguably up there with the likes of hearns, hagler and duran as one of the greatest 160ers and had he of realised he could no longer make the weight properly before the taylor fights came along and moved up weights he would right now be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.

    Sure he wasnt exactly an arturo gatti or MAB but boxings about much more than just out and out fighting and during the 90s hopkins proved time and time again a world class technician will always beat a brawler
    I actually thought MAB was a fantastic technical fighter, he certainly turned into much more of a boxer after the Junior Jones losses.
    very true

    but he could still scrap it out with the best of them on his day
    Barrera is a more complete boxer for me. I love watching him fight and his evolution has been an act of class.

    Hopkins is undeniably a bit boring these days.

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    He just know ho to survive the game, and that makes him a boring fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION View Post
    He just know ho to survive the game, and that makes him a boring fighter.
    Only ho and no biblical influence? How jolly boring?

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