Found this on the net.
Shades of Corrales: sources say Gatti assaulted wife in past
By the sounds of it Gatti was a wife beater and a drug user.When she goes to court she is going to spill the beans as we say in the UK.
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Found this on the net.
Shades of Corrales: sources say Gatti assaulted wife in past
By the sounds of it Gatti was a wife beater and a drug user.When she goes to court she is going to spill the beans as we say in the UK.
Some biitches swear up and down there guys and try to act like one. If Arturo did in fact beat her ass in the past, I'm sure she deserved it.
Everyone has problems in their life and celebrities sometimes have them worse than us "normal, everyday" people. A shame if he was whooping up on his wife; maybe all those reflexes aren't such a good thing to have if your wife is swinging on you:p
Didnt that Marley guy who wrote that piece used to be Don Kings right hand man???? If so what he says needs to be scrutinised LOL
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Originally Posted by LEGION
If she ends up in court over this and it is looking like it will Gatti reputation is going to be ripped to bits.
What ever way you put it,when a former world champion boxer hits a woman,it looks and sounds bad,and there is not much of an excuse for it either from Gattis poiont of view.:(
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Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
If she ends up in court over this and it is looking like it will Gatti reputation is going to be ripped to bits.
What ever way you put it,when a former world champion boxer hits a woman,it looks and sounds bad,and there is not much of an excuse for it either from Gattis poiont of view.:(
Yeah man; it could get ugly. I don't agree with hitting women no matter who you are; unless it's a life or death situation, so this could end up nasty. I'll remember him for the good times he allowed me to have while my social life was stuck in quicksand;D
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Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
If she ends up in court over this and it is looking like it will Gatti reputation is going to be ripped to bits.
What ever way you put it,when a former world champion boxer hits a woman,it looks and sounds bad,and there is not much of an excuse for it either from Gattis poiont of view.:(
Yeah man; it could get ugly. I don't agree with hitting women no matter who you are; unless it's a life or death situation, so this could end up nasty. I'll remember him for the good times he allowed me to have while my social life was stuck in quicksand;D
Sad way for a TRUE boxing legend to end up.:eek:
Who doesn't have problems and family spats.We tend to put them on a pedestal and play the judge and jury from the sideline.Of course when your in the spotlight and known that is bound to happen and he'll answer for his wrongs as he should.I'm not going there.Have my own glass house to live in.I'll judge him from what I experienced and remember him in that light.
I'm not one for hitting woman, never have nor will I ever. As someone else said tho woman feel so secure in their knowledge that their man or whatever can't do shit to em cause they just have to scream foul and guy ends up in jail no questions asked so some bitches just act crazy and shit for no reason trying to see how far they can push their guy before he snaps. This is in contrast to woman who are in a fucked up relationship where they get beat for the hell of it cause their man is a psycho. Whatever the case if arturo did beat his wife or not, it doesn't justify his killing, unless he did some crazy insane sadistic shit to her...
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Originally Posted by armin
I guess we will know all of the dirt in the court case.
its a bit tasteless if this is the first time this has been mentioned, even sounds like something that would be said to help the wifes case if she did indeed comit the crime
its a truely sad one of the great warriors has ended his life this way
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Originally Posted by armin
I guess we will know all of the dirt in the court case.
I won't; I'm not going to follow it. It's bad enough that when I see a Gatti fight I'll think about the murder and spousal abuse; I could do without the gory details.
I think Gatti was in trouble a while back due to domestic violence and drink related problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by NUCLEAR BULL
First off Mike Marley is a tool and we all know this, second this is a tabloid article, third we don't know circumstances behind any of these so called incidents.
Then Marley is going to take a cheap shot on both Gatti and Corrales, he nis a clown and the tabloid of boxing journalist.
Even if some truth to the stories he displays little class when reporting them
Absolutely. Gatti's problems have been out in the open for a long, long time. Drugs, alcohol, violence towards women, etc. His life outside the ring was a lot like his fighting style inside the ring.... reckless, wild, unpredictable.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Obviously it was a shock when I heard he had died. But if someone had said a year or two ago that Gatti would die young, that wouldn't have shocked me at all.
IS this just hearsay to assassinate Arturo's character and an excuse to murder him? I'm not saying he didn't beat her but it's kind of funny it's being brought out right now. And I sure wonder who are these sources?
If they were both drunk and had a domestic disupte earlier in the night, why is it wrong to bring up the fact that he's had past problems with alcohol and violence? It seems pretty relevant to the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
You can show someone respect when they die without having to ignore all their bad qualities/decisions.
There are some women who are fiery enough to hit a man. One of my ex's once pulled my hair, scratched my face and then stabbed me just over the eye with a fork. She tried her hardest to get me to hit her when she was drunk. She was jealous to the extreme and tried her hardest for me to make her a victom. I never would and just would end up buying polyfill to fill the holes I would punch in the wall.
It does not excuse a guy hitting a girl, but they seemed to have an intense jealous relationship. He could have been a mean drunk, or she may have been like my ex Karen!
What I can say though is stabbling him in back of the head, and then strangling him to death while he was down, is pre-meditated. Compounding that is her being able to go to sleep and leave his body there for 10 hours, then calling the cops and trying to cover it up.
I knew about Gatti & his issues with domestic violence long before this & I was suspicious in the back of my mind. As much as I don't want to see this said about Gatti, I was critical of articles about MJ that ignored his private life, so I've gotta have the same standards here.
If he had been seriously abusing her & I mean seriously, then she could be looking at manslaughter, which if he was would be fair, however I think it unlikely as it seems it was problems with booze & drugs that led to his vioulence. Also the descriptions are very vague. If he got drunk and/or high & hit her that is very different to getting angry & near beating her to death a la Chris Brown. I really disagree with hitting women & like to think I would never do it, but ANY man who says he's never even thought about it is lying.
On the other hand, Michael Marley, like all too many of the boxing media, is an unprofessional journalist who feeds on being controversial & 'edgy' rather than actually being any good (Steve Kim & Dougie Fischer also fit this mould nicely). It almost seems like he wants to justify Gatti's death, Gatti was probably rude to him in an interview & this is how the brave writer gets his own back :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
I seriously doubt she slept much if at all. Was he on vacation or did he live there now?
They were on vacation. From some news sources, apparently what happened was they got into a spat outside the nightclub, Gatti pushed her and she fell down, and then he hitched a cab with the baby to their rented condo and left her there. Why they had the baby at a nightclub I have no idea.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
I seriously doubt she slept much if at all. Was he on vacation or did he live there now?
He then puts the baby down to sleep and passes out. She comes in later and kills him in his sleep.
That is what the Brazillian cops said anyway.
Damn; f#cking crazy stuff. Cause babies and dance clubs go well together:p
Thx. Dean.:)
Well everything will come out of the trial and we'll see how much of it is true.
And even if Gatti abused her which of course is wrong, it just seems like that article is trying to justify that he deserved to get killed. No human being deserves to get murder like that. And that's what I got from reading that article that he deserves to get kill.
As long as it don't come out that Gatti molested kids I really don't give a fukk what he did outside the ring. My opinion of him don't change one bit. They should give that biitch the chair or the needle
Lost life,lost freedom...and a kid lost two parents.Sucks all the way around.Its a shame.Fooking guys not even in the ground yet!Gatti may have messed up bad and a guys past follows him...constantly.You dont abuse and hit women and you sure as shite don't commit premeditated murder
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
I feel like a sh#t right now; hadn't even considered the kids and the impact it will have on their life.
I'm sure he has alot of family that will step in.Whatever happens in the trial I cant see The wife being given custody but thats pretty far down the road.Kids are always left to deal with the adults BS.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
I feel like a sh#t right now; hadn't even considered the kids and the impact it will have on their life.
if the bitch hits first, give it back to her. You hit women that hit you or else they think they can get away with. It's called respect.
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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer
LOL...If you say so.;D
I got into a bad fight with my ex one night and she was throwing the tv and breaking glasses and all; I just sat there and watched her. She had been boiling eggs and it was still in the pan on the stove. She picked it up and wound back her arm and I really thought she would throw it; she knew I wouldn't hit a girl, but I told her "if you try to throw that on my face you'll never get past your shoulder before I open you up like a pinata". Luckily for her she didn't; that stuff would have fried my face and I'd of looked like Rocky from Mask. I did hit my sister once when I was 12 but she asked for it:p
Great story I know:rolleyes:
I believe in equal opportunity for all. isn't that what western society is all about? Equal treatment of women? If a woman hits a man first I believe it is not wrong of the man to hit her. For all we know Gatti's wife assaulted him first and he returned the favor. If a man hits another man first and the man that was hit retaliates it's okay, but if the scenario happens with a woman it is not.
I remember this incident that happened years ago where a couple was getting into an argument at the mall and then the female hits the male saying things like, "you punkass bitch I know you ain't got what it takes to hit me, fukk you!" She continue hitting him another 4 or 5 times in the face and then she said that she was sleeping with his best friend and said he was bigger down there than him, the next thing you know she got laid out from a straight right cross! All of the guys that were watching applauded.
I believe if you hit another person first, male or female, you deserve to get checked.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
no shit. the qualifications for writing about boxing must be breathing.
the child will probably be left with one helluva trust to help deal with problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI'm sure he has alot of family that will step in.Whatever happens in the trial I cant see The wife being given custody but thats pretty far down the road.Kids are always left to deal with the adults BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I feel like a sh#t right now; hadn't even considered the kids and the impact it will have on their life.
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Originally Posted by boozeboxerthe child will probably be left with one helluva trust to help deal with problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI'm sure he has alot of family that will step in.Whatever happens in the trial I cant see The wife being given custody but thats pretty far down the road.Kids are always left to deal with the adults BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
Well I'm sure that'll be a plus but I'd rather be poor and have my family than $$$ and a loss of identity; though I know what you're saying.
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Originally Posted by boozeboxerthe child will probably be left with one helluva trust to help deal with problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Well I'm sure that'll be a plus but I'd rather be poor and have my family than $$$ and a loss of identity; though I know what you're saying.
Yeah I didn't mean it would replace them, but this sort of thing happens to very poor children....that would be a really rough card. Gatti had a very lucrative last few fights on the networks.
He'll be alright. From what I heard Gatti was pretty smart with his moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxerthe child will probably be left with one helluva trust to help deal with problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI'm sure he has alot of family that will step in.Whatever happens in the trial I cant see The wife being given custody but thats pretty far down the road.Kids are always left to deal with the adults BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
I hope that's a really stupid joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I can't be bothered to reply to some people individually so I'l post it here.
You men must really hate women? No sooner as the rumours come out you start saying some women are mental & deserve to get hit...no thought that he may have been a nutter, no, it was all down to her.
For gods sake, if its true that he used to knock her about it's worse because he's a boxer, you're trained to hurt people and you're trained to be control of that aggression.
I assume we can agree that hitting anyone (outside of boxing, mma, etc) is generally considered not the thing to do?
If you're are saying it's ok to punch a woman in the face - which some of you are - is it ok to punch a kid in the face?
Most men are stronger than most women. More men hit women than women hit men. Most women are murdered by boyfriends and ex's. Those are facts.
I know one women whose husband broke her nose by bashing her face on the floor. I know someone who kicked his pregnant girlfriend about - but that was ok because kicking wasn't 'hitting'.
Women can of course be violent towards men? People relationships can be strange but if anyone starts to see signs of someone being jealous/controlling, watch your step because that added to drink can lead to a world of trouble.
If she had suffered years of abuse I can understand how she could snap and react like that.
Gotta love VD. I assume you mean if she didn't have the household chores done?Quote:
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Seriously though, it doesn't justify murder. Reports suggest it was calculated too. I see where you are coming from, but there are better ways of dealing with it. She could have pretty much ruined her own life if she did this.
It's never okay to hit a woman, but likewise it's never okay to hit a man either. We don't know the ins and outs of Gattis relationship with his wife, but it would seem that it was volatile.
If he did indeed hit her then it is her responsibility to get out of the relationship. To turn around and kill him like that is just plain wrong though. That is if what we are hearing does indeed turn out to be true.
There is no excuse for violence. If she was enduring his abuse for some time then bigger fool her for not getting out of it and using legal means to do so.
There are NO excuses for this kind of behaviour.