Boxing Update: Team Klitschko Goes On Record About Aborted David Haye Fights

The fight between WBC Heavyweight Champion Vitali Klitschko and Briton David Haye has been canceled. It was scheduled for September, 12, in the Commerzbank-Arena in Frankfurt, Germany.

“First of all, I feel sorry for the team of the Commerzbank-Arena and for the boxing fans in the Frankfurt region," said Bernd Böente, Managing Director of the Klitschko Management Group.

"We will try to set up another Klitschko fight in this wonderful arena as soon as possible. Also for us, the cancellation was very surprising as we got informed about it through the media.

"Haye’s manager, Adam Booth, did not even have the courage to give me a call personally and tell me about their decision – for me a sign of his inexistent class. Background of the pull-out are definitely the bad pay-per-view-TV figures of BSkyB in England.

"The last fights of Ricky Hatton and new English shooting star Amir Khan last weekend against Andreas Kotelnik both had very poor sales on TV. Khan vs. Kotelnik less than 30,000 viewers. It ... Full Boxing Article here...

David Haye is the chicken of the year....he talked himself into 2 title fights and then tucked tail and ran. Sure we hear that Haye-Valuev is going to happen but right now I am not so certain Haye won't come down with another mystery ailment that keeps him from achieving his dream.....incidentally the only time he fights anyone these days are in his dreams.

I hate Nicolay Valuev and the joke he is, but PLEASE KO David Haye!!!

I'm a lot more inclined to believe the Klitschko's and their team than I am Haye. I have Valuev brutalizes him (I feel very dirty all of a sudden; I must bathe).

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I'm a lot more inclined to believe the Klitschko's and their team than I am Haye. I have Valuev brutalizes him (I feel very dirty all of a sudden; I must bathe).

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Me too. I don't know why on earth Haye felt the need to deal with the Klits so soon after moving up anyway. It has turned out to be a right old farce.

I don't want Valuev to beat Haye, but Haye needs to have learned from this carry on because he currently looks like a bit of an idiot.

...also another angle of this story is that Valuev was made to look extremely bad by Wladimir Klitschko for the whole Ruslan Chagaev debacle, and of course Valuev is trying to spin this to where he can maybe sling some mud at the Klitschko's.

It would be very funny if Haye just gets owned by this big ape.


Either way, either outcome, the Klitschko's are going to have a rival, maybe 2 after this fight ends and hopefully it's going to cause some big fights to happen at heavyweight. I just hope Haye stops talking soon.

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...also another angle of this story is that Valuev was made to look extremely bad by Wladimir Klitschko for the whole Ruslan Chagaev debacle, and of course Valuev is trying to spin this to where he can maybe sling some mud at the Klitschko's.

It would be very funny if Haye just gets owned by this big ape.


Either way, either outcome, the Klitschko's are going to have a rival, maybe 2 after this fight ends and hopefully it's going to cause some big fights to happen at heavyweight. I just hope Haye stops talking
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Holy shat, I just fell out of my chair:o thats the most intelligent thing you wrote in regards to this whole thing... Fuk me man, I just repped you out of complete shock;D

Thanks buddy, however, I might add rivalries don't mean much if Haye or Valuev keep ducking the Klitschko's

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Thanks buddy, however, I might add rivalries don't mean much if Haye or Valuev keep ducking the Klitschko's

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Well I guess it the old story in the bible about the pharisee's, who were straining out the gnat and gulping down the camel when it came to enforcing Gods law.

Case and point: Haye's only real Bastian of income against Wlad was Setanta, since Wlad wasnt going to part with a penny from the event gate or German TV revenue.. So whether the back injury was valid, no one should be in a Mega heavyweight showdown and risk getting fatally injured or unable to provide for themselves and gamble all that for virtually no money.

Also it looks like the Vitali contract was another peanuts contract with a clause that basically enslaved Haye to keep fighting the Klits till they beat him, for yes the same shit money... So yes Haye is a mouthy prick and is like a gnat, but that shit contract and circumstanes around it is like trying to swallow a camel.

I doubt Haye is scared of the Klits and there not scared of him, but a negoiation and deal is reached when both parties feel like they got a good enough deal to move forward.... Trust me Lyle this is good news Valuev is a blatant ducker and has been gifted his title quite a few times not to mention had a shutout pitched againt him with Holyfield.. Haye will beat his ass and bring that strap to the mainstream and actually have a leg to stand on with an even bigger event-promotion and trinket to bring to the party.

You mention rivals, more than likely Cris Arreola will fight Vitali and say he beats him there is another rival to throw in the bunch.. I'm excited about those 2 fights and the matchups they represent

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Thanks buddy, however, I might add rivalries don't mean much if Haye or Valuev keep ducking the Klitschko's

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Well I guess it the old story in the bible about the pharisee's, who were straining out the gnat and gulping down the camel when it came to enforcing Gods law.

Case and point: Haye's only real Bastian of income against Wlad was Setanta, since Wlad wasnt going to part with a penny from the event gate or German TV revenue.. So whether the back injury was valid, no one should be in a Mega heavyweight showdown and risk getting fatally injured or unable to provide for themselves and gamble all that for virtually no money.

Also it looks like the Vitali contract was another peanuts contract with a clause that basically enslaved Haye to keep fighting the Klits till they beat him, for yes the same shit money... So yes Haye is a mouthy prick and is like a gnat, but that shit contract and circumstanes around it is like trying to swallow a camel.

I doubt Haye is scared of the Klits and there not scared of him, but a negoiation and deal is reached when both parties feel like they got a good enough deal to move forward.... Trust me Lyle this is good news Valuev is a blatant ducker and has been gifted his title quite a few times not to mention had a shutout pitched againt him with Holyfield.. Haye will beat his ass and bring that strap to the mainstream and actually have a leg to stand on with an even bigger event-promotion and trinket to bring to the party.

You mention rivals, more than likely Cris Arreola will fight Vitali and say he beats him there is another rival to throw in the bunch.. I'm excited about those 2 fights and the matchups they represent

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The only thing that Arreola beats Vitali in is a burger eating contest

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Thanks buddy, however, I might add rivalries don't mean much if Haye or Valuev keep ducking the Klitschko's

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Well I guess it the old story in the bible about the pharisee's, who were straining out the gnat and gulping down the camel when it came to enforcing Gods law.

Case and point: Haye's only real Bastian of income against Wlad was Setanta, since Wlad wasnt going to part with a penny from the event gate or German TV revenue.. So whether the back injury was valid, no one should be in a Mega heavyweight showdown and risk getting fatally injured or unable to provide for themselves and gamble all that for virtually no money.

Also it looks like the Vitali contract was another peanuts contract with a clause that basically enslaved Haye to keep fighting the Klits till they beat him, for yes the same shit money... So yes Haye is a mouthy prick and is like a gnat, but that shit contract and circumstanes around it is like trying to swallow a camel.

I doubt Haye is scared of the Klits and there not scared of him, but a negoiation and deal is reached when both parties feel like they got a good enough deal to move forward.... Trust me Lyle this is good news Valuev is a blatant ducker and has been gifted his title quite a few times not to mention had a shutout pitched againt him with Holyfield.. Haye will beat his ass and bring that strap to the mainstream and actually have a leg to stand on with an even bigger event-promotion and trinket to bring to the party.

You mention rivals, more than likely Cris Arreola will fight Vitali and say he beats him there is another rival to throw in the bunch.. I'm excited about those 2 fights and the matchups they represent

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The only thing that Arreola beats Vitali in is a burger eating contest

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Arreola is an excellent boxer thats a fact, he brawls and imposes his will because he can overwhelm his opponents with fire power. I suppose thats why he has ignored conditioning for the past few years..

He is supposedly getting into better shape, so I think if unfortunately Vitali gets old within a round Cris could be a hard nights work for him..

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Well I guess it the old story in the bible about the pharisee's, who were straining out the gnat and gulping down the camel when it came to enforcing Gods law.

Case and point: Haye's only real Bastian of income against Wlad was Setanta, since Wlad wasnt going to part with a penny from the event gate or German TV revenue.. So whether the back injury was valid, no one should be in a Mega heavyweight showdown and risk getting fatally injured or unable to provide for themselves and gamble all that for virtually no money.

Also it looks like the Vitali contract was another peanuts contract with a clause that basically enslaved Haye to keep fighting the Klits till they beat him, for yes the same shit money... So yes Haye is a mouthy prick and is like a gnat, but that shit contract and circumstanes around it is like trying to swallow a camel.

I doubt Haye is scared of the Klits and there not scared of him, but a negoiation and deal is reached when both parties feel like they got a good enough deal to move forward.... Trust me Lyle this is good news Valuev is a blatant ducker and has been gifted his title quite a few times not to mention had a shutout pitched againt him with Holyfield.. Haye will beat his ass and bring that strap to the mainstream and actually have a leg to stand on with an even bigger event-promotion and trinket to bring to the party.

You mention rivals, more than likely Cris Arreola will fight Vitali and say he beats him there is another rival to throw in the bunch.. I'm excited about those 2 fights and the matchups they represent

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The only thing that Arreola beats Vitali in is a burger eating contest

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Arreola is an excellent boxer thats a fact, he brawls and imposes his will because he can overwhelm his opponents with fire power. I suppose thats why he has ignored conditioning for the past few years..

He is supposedly getting into better shape, so I think if unfortunately Vitali gets old within a round Cris could be a hard nights work for him..

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Arreola has a maximum of 5-6 rounds in him because of his complacent attitude to conditioning. Whilst he has natural talent & firepower, Vitali is a guy who's taken punches off Lewis & Brewster & stayed standing firm. His chin won't fall apart in one fight. In fact, the only way I see him getting hurt is by a quick puncher as Brewster was & Arreola ain't that. He may have some talent, but he's a slob, & his talent is not in the league of a Riddick Bowe where it can compensate for lax conditioning against top opponents

The Klitschko's and there shocking contracts have left Haye with no option but to meet Valuev for the title and a better deal.

Interesting what Valuev had to say about the Klitschko's

Niko, news about your fight with Haye has left many shocked. How quickly did you make a decision to take this fight?
Negotiations were conducted very quickly. It didn’t take long for me to think about and agree to this fight. I am sure that I’m better than him.

You knew that Haye would pull out of the fight with Vitali Klitschko?
Yes, I knew about it, but Vitali has not followed through on his promises. Several months ago Vitali and I spoke by phone and agreed to have a fight between us. Then Vitali stopped speaking to me. I communicated this to my promoter and they informed me that Klitschko doesn’t wish to fight me. What should I do after that? Wait? But by the time of this fight I’ll have not fought for nearly a year. A strong contender is necessary for me. I have chosen Haye. Unlike Team Klitschko, we have quickly come to an agreement with him.

Now having selected Vitali’s planned opponent, do you think this could cost you a fight against the Klitschkos?
If the Klitschko brothers wish to claim all the titles, they should fight me.

Haye has stated that he refused the fight against Klitschko because of a bad contract. What conditions did Haye demand?
I don’t know. Ask my promoter. But I think it wasn’t the money. I know that Klitschko offered bad conditions for Haye. I even looked at the contract. These conditions were awful! The Klitschko brothers think only of their own benefit when make contracts for their opponents.

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The Klitschkos are the draw....If Haye wants the lions share he needs to take the risk and set up the stadium etc in England. Wlad gave Haye the chance to do this and he realized he couldnt sell out a stadium in England and backed out of that first contract...so wlad set up the fight in germany where he knows he can sell and is the big draw...of course Haye backed out again.......

The Klitschkos get the lions share cause they are the champs, the big draws and they assume all of the promtional/stadium risk...

Valuev cant say a word cause Wlad offered him the fight before Ruslan after Haye pulled out of the first fight. Valuev didnt want the fight.

People say the Klitschkos are overrated and are weak champs but I have never seen a situation where so many fighters are afraid to fight the two top HW champs.....

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The Klitschkos are the draw....If Haye wants the lions share he needs to take the risk and set up the stadium etc in England. Wlad gave Haye the chance to do this and he realized he couldnt sell out a stadium in England and backed out of that first contract...so wlad set up the fight in germany where he knows he can sell and is the big draw...of course Haye backed out again.......

The Klitschkos get the lions share cause they are the champs, the big draws and they assume all of the promtional/stadium risk...

Valuev cant say a word cause Wlad offered him the fight before Ruslan after Haye pulled out of the first fight. Valuev didnt want the fight.

People say the Klitschkos are overrated and are weak champs but I have never seen a situation where so many fighters are afraid to fight the two top HW champs.....

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Thats funny there such the bigger draw that HBO didnt want any part of the Wlad/Chagaev fight but were ready to show the Wlad/Haye fight live in ther States. So I think you will see the Kilts are not the only draw in this fight and Haye brings alot to the table alot more than 400k and 3/4 fight deal if he wins.

Of course Valuev is going to talk shit about the Klitschko's, because Wlad made him look bad by beating the crap out of Ruslan Chagaev, on short notice too! Chagaev was simply ducked by Nicolay Valuev, I still believe this Valuev-Haye fight won't happen, both guys seem to like talking more than fighting.

Well in my thread "THE David Haye Rant" I covered the whole "contract issue" in regards to David Haye....at one point in time he was more than willing to sign the contract, he was happy to do so, and then something happened, perhaps it was Setanta telling him he wasn't going to get paid by them or something, but Haye signed the contract and was happy about it at one point in time.....but now I suppose he's proven he can bankrupt a TV station and get "injured" and this makes him more marketable somehow

Trouble is the Klitschko's now control the titles. To get a shot a fighter must agree to a rematch should he win?? Ok thats fair enough BUT Should he win again then he must fight my brudder first before defending it LOL

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Trouble is the Klitschko's now control the titles. To get a shot a fighter must agree to a rematch should he win?? Ok thats fair enough BUT Should he win again then he must fight my brudder first before defending it LOL

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other than haye`s power theres absoloutely no reason either guy should be beat as a pro again.

I for one will not go out my way to even bother watching either guy again going through the motions in germany until one of them gets in the ring with haye

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The Klitschkos are the draw....If Haye wants the lions share he needs to take the risk and set up the stadium etc in England. Wlad gave Haye the chance to do this and he realized he couldnt sell out a stadium in England and backed out of that first contract...so wlad set up the fight in germany where he knows he can sell and is the big draw...of course Haye backed out again.......

The Klitschkos get the lions share cause they are the champs, the big draws and they assume all of the promtional/stadium risk...

Valuev cant say a word cause Wlad offered him the fight before Ruslan after Haye pulled out of the first fight. Valuev didnt want the fight.

People say the Klitschkos are overrated and are weak champs but I have never seen a situation where so many fighters are afraid to fight the two top HW champs.....

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Thats funny there such the bigger draw that HBO didnt want any part of the Wlad/Chagaev fight but were ready to show the Wlad/Haye fight live in ther States. So I think you will see the Kilts are not the only draw in this fight and Haye brings alot to the table alot more than 400k and 3/4 fight deal if he wins.

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HBO didnt want the fight because Klitschko and Ruslan are not big draws in the US. Klitschko still sells out stadiums in Germany/Europe. Haye doesnt sell out stadiums anywhere.

You think Haye is a big draw? Is HBO picking up Valuev/Haye? ESPN will probably not even pick up Valuev/Haye.....

Every boxing website I have looked on the writers have trashed Haye, talking about how he has made himself look like a fool dodging the Klitchkos. Even the Ring has trashed Haye for taking on Valuev and the Ring is owned by promoters who have an interest in Haye....Now that is beyond pathetic.

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Trouble is the Klitschko's now control the titles. To get a shot a fighter must agree to a rematch should he win?? Ok thats fair enough BUT Should he win again then he must fight my brudder first before defending it LOL

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So what? The Klitchkos are the two top heavyweights. So you are saying if someone beats Wlad they shouldnt be required to fight Vitali? Dont you want the best to fight the best? Isnt this what we all want to see? You need to think before you type.

Interesting about the PPV buys... I can understand Khan but Hatton v Pac got poor sales?

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The Klitschkos are the draw....If Haye wants the lions share he needs to take the risk and set up the stadium etc in England. Wlad gave Haye the chance to do this and he realized he couldnt sell out a stadium in England and backed out of that first contract...so wlad set up the fight in germany where he knows he can sell and is the big draw...of course Haye backed out again.......

The Klitschkos get the lions share cause they are the champs, the big draws and they assume all of the promtional/stadium risk...

Valuev cant say a word cause Wlad offered him the fight before Ruslan after Haye pulled out of the first fight. Valuev didnt want the fight.

People say the Klitschkos are overrated and are weak champs but I have never seen a situation where so many fighters are afraid to fight the two top HW champs.....

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Thats funny there such the bigger draw that HBO didnt want any part of the Wlad/Chagaev fight but were ready to show the Wlad/Haye fight live in ther States. So I think you will see the Kilts are not the only draw in this fight and Haye brings alot to the table alot more than 400k and 3/4 fight deal if he wins.

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HBO didnt want the fight because Klitschko and Ruslan are not big draws in the US. Klitschko still sells out stadiums in Germany/Europe. Haye doesnt sell out stadiums anywhere.




You think Haye is a big draw? Is HBO picking up Valuev/Haye? ESPN will probably not even pick up Valuev/Haye.....

Every boxing website I have looked on the writers have trashed Haye, talking about how he has made himself look like a fool dodging the Klitchkos. Even the Ring has trashed Haye for taking on Valuev and the Ring is owned by promoters who have an interest in Haye....Now that is beyond pathetic.

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SO WHY DID HBO WANT THE WLAD V HAYE FIGHT??

So like i said in my previous post which you just seemed to bypass Haye was one of the main reasons HBO were on board for the Wlad/Haye fight and as soon as Haye pulled out so did HBO. Haye like i said before brings alot more to the table than 400k pay cheque with the evidence being HBO wanted the fight when he was involved but when he wasnt they didnt, is that to hard for you to understand???

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SO WHY DID HBO WANT THE WLAD V HAYE FIGHT??

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Because Haye is a good heel and maybe more people think he would piss Wlad off or the fans would like to see Haye get KO'd in a horrific manner......OR there is a group of people that would like the heavyweight champion to be a loudmouthed brat who talks more than fights.

I'd rather see Haye savaged in the ring and his career ended at the hands of Wladimir Klitschko.