Just an observation, seems to be more real and candid instead of falsely being brash.. I think Floyd's learning that once you settle in to your own people are more supportive of you
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Just an observation, seems to be more real and candid instead of falsely being brash.. I think Floyd's learning that once you settle in to your own people are more supportive of you
i thought this.. then i just figured it was because JMM couldn't understand English hahah.. and he wasn't going to trash talk to him in English while someone was translating so spanish etc.. not the same effect hah.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
but overall he has def calmed down, i do agree.
Or are poor sales making him try to appeal to people because he is desperate ?
real doubtful.. the more he is an ass, the more people hate him, the more people pay to hope to see him get knocked out.. that's been his thing all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiebhoy
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Yeah, him having his bodyguards shoot at a guy who wished that he would lose, shows a lot of class. ;) ;D
And before you Mayweather fans jump all over me, this is just me giving JT some ribbing, and he knows it.
I agree, he did seem more laid back. However, let's remember... there's only been one 24/7 episode so far. For all we know, HBO chose to run the footage where Floyd was most down to earth in order to show another side of him.
I do think there is one big difference though.... I think Floyd genuinely respects Marquez as a fighter, especially since Marquez spent a lot of years struggling to get recognition because he was overshadowed by Morales and Barrera. Whereas I think Floyd viewed Oscar and Ricky (rightly or wrongly) as lesser fighters who just happened to be popular with the fans and the TV networks.
He's just getting older and buisness savvy.Realizes that lame brash character overload turns fans off ...better suited for the WWE.Don't think we've seen the end of him thumping his chest.Was this '24/7' ? Missed it
Could me worse.. Floyd could be getting tramp stamps and other less than manly jailhouse tattoos while ducking bricks from his Uncle;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Yeah, I guess he could go and get convicted for the 3rd time for assaulting women, which would then make it a felony in Nevada, and he could then do up to 5 years in prison.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT RockCould me worse.. Floyd could be getting tramp stamps and other less than manly jailhouse tattoos while ducking bricks from his Uncle;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Him and Roger could be cell mates. :bananasex:
;D
I like Floyd and deep down he is a decent guy, but I think this was a bit of a PR stunt, i have no doubt he does his charity work etc etc, but I think his team made sure HBO had that in the 24/7 show.
I dont see how Marquez wins this, I honestly think Floyd will win this easily.
I think he has gotten past all that.. No doubt his Uncle is a good trainer but deplorable human being... Floyd can move on with all that over time. Cotto has to live with that kindergarden scribble on his skin forever:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeYeah, I guess he could go and get convicted for the 3rd time for assaulting women, which would then make it a felony in Nevada, and he could then do up to 5 years in prison.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT RockCould me worse.. Floyd could be getting tramp stamps and other less than manly jailhouse tattoos while ducking bricks from his Uncle;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Him and Roger could be cell mates. :bananasex:
;D
Hahahahahaha!!! I really hope Cotto kicks the shiit out of you know who, Cotto earned my respect and sympathy from the handwrap incident and then showed real grit when he battled thru the cut with Clottey.
I've noticed since fighting Hatton he seems to have been making more of an effort... I wonder if he saw what Hatton had and wanted more of that or if he's just starting to realise why his PPV doesn't do as well as it could.
Watching him try to raise his profile with WWe and the way he's been acting on 24/7 so far definetly make me think so.
Still seems real brash to me. Bragging about his home ("it's all paid..."), rolling dice with wads of cash with his family, still being connected to crimes. Nothing seems to have changed with Mayweather at all. So he was filmed giving food to homeless. Not very sincere. He basically was throwing it at the homeless like you throw food at animals at the zoo. Marquez was/is much more humble and real to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I'm guessin he bought a life coach. It's all the rage. Paid them with a stack of benjamins right in tha face.
You think. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JT RockI think he has gotten past all that.. No doubt his Uncle is a good trainer but deplorable human being... Floyd can move on with all that over time. Cotto has to live with that kindergarden scribble on his skin forever:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeYeah, I guess he could go and get convicted for the 3rd time for assaulting women, which would then make it a felony in Nevada, and he could then do up to 5 years in prison.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Him and Roger could be cell mates. :bananasex:
;D
Hahahahahaha!!! I really hope Cotto kicks the shiit out of you know who, Cotto earned my respect and sympathy from the handwrap incident and then showed real grit when he battled thru the cut with Clottey.
I'll admit, I don't care for the scorpion tat. One is of his kids names, don't see what's wrong with that. One is a rosary, again, I don't have a problem with that. One is just a small design on the back of his neck, again, doesn't bother me. Chinese symbol on head, hey, at least it's not like Legion's Jack in the box one. ;D
And quite frankly, I would love the chance to trace that tribal that wraps around his leg, up his hip, and over his abs and chest with my tongue. :lickish:
Don't see how that could be a bad thing. ;D
Plus, those could be removed, or covered up, if he so choses.
I like to think tho', that the new Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a direct result of the maturity that has finally found him as a willing partner, at this particular stage in his life. (bar the skating rink incident, LOL. Everyone is entitled to a benefit of a doubt, fellas!).
Looking at the world (boxing) around him, must have made him find a new appreciation at what his peers have all been doing, and the direct, positive results that respectively, have since enriched their lives.
This is one form of envy that can only have but all things positive written all over it! No shame in it Floyd Jr.!
I wonder though, why he is contemplating a switch to wrestling!
Contradictory?.... How about that?
dude your just being a hater... So Floyd cant play dice with his family and have a sense of accomplishment in his life. Obviously money means alot to him, maybe your like me and you have no desire to be rich and live in the fast lane but he is doing what he pleases with his hard earned cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by RicanStill seems real brash to me. Bragging about his home ("it's all paid..."), rolling dice with wads of cash with his family, still being connected to crimes. Nothing seems to have changed with Mayweather at all. So he was filmed giving food to homeless. Not very sincere. He basically was throwing it at the homeless like you throw food at animals at the zoo. Marquez was/is much more humble and real to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
As far as Floyds charity work, unlike most I read all the Mayweather news not just the hate fuel that circulated, I have been aware of his charity work and giving back for a while now enough to know that clip on 24 wasnt a one time PR stunt..
My point of the thread was, he has been more fan friendly, been cordial and less surly with his brashness to the media(excluding Brian Kenny which you can tell had a bit of showmanship by both parties) and HASNT said a disparaging word about Marquez nothing but respect and class. Even Roger hasnt said a peep about Nacho.
Very nice promotion, hope this is what Floyd chooses to stay with, its the real him and is a great balance between being respectful and showcasing his flashy lifestyle. He is gaining in popularity you can tell and will probably start solidifying it more if he dominates JMM in an exciting way. I think that will sway the people even more.
If both can get past their opponents you have the perfect stage set for a Pac PBF showdown, because of how nauseating SOME of Pac's fans can be coupled with Roaches opportunistic caniving to put Pac's opponents at a disadvantage I can see Floyd getting a big push in popularity and support
it always was showmanship from him, he's a decent guy IMO. They are one SERIOUSLY dysfunctional family though, it's brilliant television.
What class? He is just an actor, he ain't ever been 'real' that's his fucking major downfall. The guy is a wank stain
Astonished, dumbfounded, disbelief, a deer frozen by headlights... Will the real Floyd Mayweather Jr. please stand up!
I think the general population doesn't buy the good guy act. Probably because its a 180 degrees in persona change. He doesn't want to play the bad guy anymore? Now he wants to be loved and not hated?
I don't buy it either. It's just another side of that attention whore syndrome. Most celebrity PR's understand the importance of at least appearing to be charitable.
I do agree, it is better side of Mayweather.
I was trying to decided whether or not Mayweather was acting more classy because he respected Marquez or if he was trying to sell this as a legitimate fight because some view this as a mismatch. My gut is telling me that Floyd respects Marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
He has his flashy personality coming out in spots but he hasn't said anything bad about Marquez, especially comparing it with the things he was saying against Oscar and Ricky.
I agree. While he may have appeared to be an ass, and a loudmouth, this is what sold him (besides being an incredible fighter). Boxing is a business, and this is how he sold himself (what a whore :rolleyes:). Can't wait to see him fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33real doubtful.. the more he is an ass, the more people hate him, the more people pay to hope to see him get knocked out.. that's been his thing all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiebhoy
I was shocked with your message when I first read it. Now I just wish I looked like Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeYou think. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JT RockI think he has gotten past all that.. No doubt his Uncle is a good trainer but deplorable human being... Floyd can move on with all that over time. Cotto has to live with that kindergarden scribble on his skin forever:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Hahahahahaha!!! I really hope Cotto kicks the shiit out of you know who, Cotto earned my respect and sympathy from the handwrap incident and then showed real grit when he battled thru the cut with Clottey.
I'll admit, I don't care for the scorpion tat. One is of his kids names, don't see what's wrong with that. One is a rosary, again, I don't have a problem with that. One is just a small design on the back of his neck, again, doesn't bother me. Chinese symbol on head, hey, at least it's not like Legion's Jack in the box one. ;D
And quite frankly, I would love the chance to trace that tribal that wraps around his leg, up his hip, and over his abs and chest with my tongue. :lickish:
Don't see how that could be a bad thing. ;D
Plus, those could be removed, or covered up, if he so choses.
He was, is and always will be a mere prick.
I fail to see how that is a problemQuote:
Originally Posted by RicanStill seems real brash to me. Bragging about his home ("it's all paid..."), rolling dice with wads of cash with his family, still being connected to crimes. Nothing seems to have changed with Mayweather at all. So he was filmed giving food to homeless. Not very sincere. He basically was throwing it at the homeless like you throw food at animals at the zoo. Marquez was/is much more humble and real to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar FuI was shocked with your message when I first read it. Now I just wish I looked like Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeYou think. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I'll admit, I don't care for the scorpion tat. One is of his kids names, don't see what's wrong with that. One is a rosary, again, I don't have a problem with that. One is just a small design on the back of his neck, again, doesn't bother me. Chinese symbol on head, hey, at least it's not like Legion's Jack in the box one. ;D
And quite frankly, I would love the chance to trace that tribal that wraps around his leg, up his hip, and over his abs and chest with my tongue. :lickish:
Don't see how that could be a bad thing. ;D
Plus, those could be removed, or covered up, if he so choses.
Why would you be shocked btw?
Well, I guess you haven't been here long enough to understand my lust for Cotto.
Im sure Cotto is Incredibly sexy but being a guy I am not allowed to say he looks hot (Man code). If your talking about hot tatoos then you gotta go with Kessler. I would love to have a tatoo like that. Big muscular shoulders with an awsome viking warrior on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar FuI was shocked with your message when I first read it. Now I just wish I looked like Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Why would you be shocked btw?
Well, I guess you haven't been here long enough to understand my lust for Cotto.
OK, im getting sexualy confused now. Gonna have to go watch baywatch and drink beer to man up.
Why must I be a hater when I am simply calling it like I see it? Mayweather seems the same to me in every way. True, he is more subdued this time, but I believe that is because Marquez is not very loud, flamboyant, or media/fan friendly as Hatton was. If he was, you would see Floyd's antics/behavior more blatantly than you see them now, trying to outdo Marquez and be the loudest at the party. When Cotto beats Pac and Floyd is forced to fight him, Floyd will probably be more subdued as well since Cotto has that laid-back, professional style about him that won't incite attention starved people like Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rockdude your just being a hater... So Floyd cant play dice with his family and have a sense of accomplishment in his life. Obviously money means alot to him, maybe your like me and you have no desire to be rich and live in the fast lane but he is doing what he pleases with his hard earned cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by RicanStill seems real brash to me. Bragging about his home ("it's all paid..."), rolling dice with wads of cash with his family, still being connected to crimes. Nothing seems to have changed with Mayweather at all. So he was filmed giving food to homeless. Not very sincere. He basically was throwing it at the homeless like you throw food at animals at the zoo. Marquez was/is much more humble and real to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
As far as Floyds charity work, unlike most I read all the Mayweather news not just the hate fuel that circulated, I have been aware of his charity work and giving back for a while now enough to know that clip on 24 wasnt a one time PR stunt..
My point of the thread was, he has been more fan friendly, been cordial and less surly with his brashness to the media(excluding Brian Kenny which you can tell had a bit of showmanship by both parties) and HASNT said a disparaging word about Marquez nothing but respect and class. Even Roger hasnt said a peep about Nacho.
Very nice promotion, hope this is what Floyd chooses to stay with, its the real him and is a great balance between being respectful and showcasing his flashy lifestyle. He is gaining in popularity you can tell and will probably start solidifying it more if he dominates JMM in an exciting way. I think that will sway the people even more.
If both can get past their opponents you have the perfect stage set for a Pac PBF showdown, because of how nauseating SOME of Pac's fans can be coupled with Roaches opportunistic caniving to put Pac's opponents at a disadvantage I can see Floyd getting a big push in popularity and support
In terms of the money issue, you can still have a sense of accomplishment without bragging about what you have. I don't see these rich celebrities bragging about what they have. It makes Floyd more unlikable IMO.
he has always done charity work fools.
So you dislike brash, flashy boxers? You must have really got irritated by Trinidad then.Quote:
Originally Posted by RicanWhy must I be a hater when I am simply calling it like I see it? Mayweather seems the same to me in every way. True, he is more subdued this time, but I believe that is because Marquez is not very loud, flamboyant, or media/fan friendly as Hatton was. If he was, you would see Floyd's antics/behavior more blatantly than you see them now, trying to outdo Marquez and be the loudest at the party. When Cotto beats Pac and Floyd is forced to fight him, Floyd will probably be more subdued as well since Cotto has that laid-back, professional style about him that won't incite attention starved people like Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rockdude your just being a hater... So Floyd cant play dice with his family and have a sense of accomplishment in his life. Obviously money means alot to him, maybe your like me and you have no desire to be rich and live in the fast lane but he is doing what he pleases with his hard earned cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rican
As far as Floyds charity work, unlike most I read all the Mayweather news not just the hate fuel that circulated, I have been aware of his charity work and giving back for a while now enough to know that clip on 24 wasnt a one time PR stunt..
My point of the thread was, he has been more fan friendly, been cordial and less surly with his brashness to the media(excluding Brian Kenny which you can tell had a bit of showmanship by both parties) and HASNT said a disparaging word about Marquez nothing but respect and class. Even Roger hasnt said a peep about Nacho.
Very nice promotion, hope this is what Floyd chooses to stay with, its the real him and is a great balance between being respectful and showcasing his flashy lifestyle. He is gaining in popularity you can tell and will probably start solidifying it more if he dominates JMM in an exciting way. I think that will sway the people even more.
If both can get past their opponents you have the perfect stage set for a Pac PBF showdown, because of how nauseating SOME of Pac's fans can be coupled with Roaches opportunistic caniving to put Pac's opponents at a disadvantage I can see Floyd getting a big push in popularity and support
In terms of the money issue, you can still have a sense of accomplishment without bragging about what you have. I don't see these rich celebrities bragging about what they have. It makes Floyd more unlikable IMO.
When Floyd came & did an open workout session in London, he was very open with fans as you could see if you unearth Smashup's thread on it. Let's face it with some people, he could rescue babies from a burning building & people would still say he was being arrogant.
On your point, maybe he just respects Marquez more than Hatton or Oscar, guys whose popularity was disproportionate to their talent.
He got you there pal;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinSo you dislike brash, flashy boxers? You must have really got irritated by Trinidad then.Quote:
Originally Posted by RicanWhy must I be a hater when I am simply calling it like I see it? Mayweather seems the same to me in every way. True, he is more subdued this time, but I believe that is because Marquez is not very loud, flamboyant, or media/fan friendly as Hatton was. If he was, you would see Floyd's antics/behavior more blatantly than you see them now, trying to outdo Marquez and be the loudest at the party. When Cotto beats Pac and Floyd is forced to fight him, Floyd will probably be more subdued as well since Cotto has that laid-back, professional style about him that won't incite attention starved people like Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
In terms of the money issue, you can still have a sense of accomplishment without bragging about what you have. I don't see these rich celebrities bragging about what they have. It makes Floyd more unlikable IMO.
Sorry, but "class" is not a word that comes to mind when I think of PBF. I don't hate him, and he does seem slightly less obnoxious, but he's still the same cocky mf'er he always was. I'm sure most of it is just showmanship but still......
That's not allowed eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar FuIm sure Cotto is Incredibly sexy but being a guy I am not allowed to say he looks hot (Man code). If your talking about hot tatoos then you gotta go with Kessler. I would love to have a tatoo like that. Big muscular shoulders with an awsome viking warrior on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar Fu
Why would you be shocked btw?
Well, I guess you haven't been here long enough to understand my lust for Cotto.
OK, im getting sexualy confused now. Gonna have to go watch baywatch and drink beer to man up.
I noticed that my self in the few press confrences I have seen and 24/7 I hope that he continues this attitude I would become a fan
When he says things like "he's gonna give his best, I'm gonna give my best and we're gonna give the fans a hell of a fight." That's exactly what I want to hear. He is obviously giving JMM a lot of respect and I commend him for that. I have to think that if he would have talked like that since the beginning, he would have had more fans all along. Of course, I still have a lot of friends that will buy the PPV exclusively in the hopes that PBF will get beat because he has played the villain for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
What his intentions are I don't know but I do know that he has found the middle ground between the flashy lifestyle and the classy attitude. I do have to say however that DLH and Hatton both spoke English and had a huge fanbase while JMM doesn't really have either.
Ummm, you just opened yourself up for some ridicule by some of the guys here. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar FuIm sure Cotto is Incredibly sexy but being a guy I am not allowed to say he looks hot (Man code). If your talking about hot tatoos then you gotta go with Kessler. I would love to have a tatoo like that. Big muscular shoulders with an awsome viking warrior on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar Fu
Why would you be shocked btw?
Well, I guess you haven't been here long enough to understand my lust for Cotto.
OK, im getting sexualy confused now. Gonna have to go watch baywatch and drink beer to man up.
Yeah, Kessler is good looking, and the tat is nice, but running my tongue on the inside of Miguel's thigh, up his hip, and onto his abs and chest, is a lot more provocative than a back and shoulder. At least to me. :mwink:
I guess you're going to need a new profile after that post :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar Fu
See what I mean. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by DianeUmmm, you just opened yourself up for some ridicule by some of the guys here. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar FuIm sure Cotto is Incredibly sexy but being a guy I am not allowed to say he looks hot (Man code). If your talking about hot tatoos then you gotta go with Kessler. I would love to have a tatoo like that. Big muscular shoulders with an awsome viking warrior on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
OK, im getting sexualy confused now. Gonna have to go watch baywatch and drink beer to man up.
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat's not allowed eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar FuIm sure Cotto is Incredibly sexy but being a guy I am not allowed to say he looks hot (Man code). If your talking about hot tatoos then you gotta go with Kessler. I would love to have a tatoo like that. Big muscular shoulders with an awsome viking warrior on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
OK, im getting sexualy confused now. Gonna have to go watch baywatch and drink beer to man up.
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Originally Posted by JazMerkinI guess you're going to need a new profile after that post :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar Fu
You American girls/women are damn wild :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DianeUmmm, you just opened yourself up for some ridicule by some of the guys here. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakefist Ar FuIm sure Cotto is Incredibly sexy but being a guy I am not allowed to say he looks hot (Man code). If your talking about hot tatoos then you gotta go with Kessler. I would love to have a tatoo like that. Big muscular shoulders with an awsome viking warrior on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
OK, im getting sexualy confused now. Gonna have to go watch baywatch and drink beer to man up.
Yeah, Kessler is good looking, and the tat is nice, but running my tongue on the inside of Miguel's thigh, up his hip, and onto his abs and chest, is a lot more provocative than a back and shoulder. At least to me. :mwink: