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Youve heard some strange things told to you about some of the weird and wonderfull things you can do to lose weight while on the scales yes. Breathing out Hands above your Head all the rest of the Bullshit. Now Ive got one, but never told anyone, the thing is it works done it loads of times. Thing is it doesnt make sense, it defies the laws of Science. Stand on your Head with your feet against the wall upside down for 5 minutes where nobody can see you, you look a pratt ;D. Then get to the scales within 2 minutes, you will have lost up to a pound TRUE. :confused:

That is strange! I'd feel too silly to try it right now, although I'll keep it in mind the next time that I do a headstand. ;D

Maybe this will ring a bell with Andre, since he's familiar with some unusual things because of his background and beliefs.

Chris everyone thinks its a windup but done it numerous times, and it works. Havent got a clue why ;D

I'd just like to know where that missing pound goes. ???

Maybe the physicists should be told about this. ;D

Ever seen the one with lifting the guy on a chair with 2 fingers.

That could really only mean that gravity isnt constant and that it leaves a memory within life cells.

??? maybe.

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That could really only mean that gravity isnt constant and that it leaves a memory within life cells.

??? maybe.

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I think that's the only logical conclusion. :wackomz4:

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Ever seen the one with lifting the guy on a chair with 2 fingers.

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Yeah that is amazing stuff too.

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Youve heard some strange things told to you about some of the weird and wonderfull things you can do to lose weight while on the scales yes. Breathing out Hands above your Head all the rest of the Bullshit. Now Ive got one, but never told anyone, the thing is it works done it loads of times. Thing is it doesnt make sense, it defies the laws of Science. Stand on your Head with your feet against the wall upside down for 5 minutes where nobody can see you, you look a pratt ;D. Then get to the scales within 2 minutes, you will have lost up to a pound TRUE. :confused:

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This does work. I used to do this in high school for wrestling. My whole team knew this worked though so I don't think its a big secret. I never knew anybody who lost a full pound but I could lose like a quarter of a pound when I was shy on the scales just by doing this handstand for a few minutes.

Maybe my wife should stand on her head until October. :p

Couldn't help that one.

Scrap, I wanna know how you discovered this ;D

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Maybe my wife should stand on her head until October. :p

Couldn't help that one.

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H is was about 74, was in to Meditation in a big way. One day I saw a guy Levitate it blew me away, watched some techniques which were used. Dont know if you have seen the thing with the guy in the chair a two of you lifting Him with two fingers, after both of you push down with your Hands on top of His Head. then with your index fingers its easy to lift Him. I started playing about with a few ideas and stumbled on it, it blew me away when it worked got everyone doing it ;D always worked.

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H is was about 74, was in to Meditation in a big way. One day I saw a guy Levitate it blew me away, watched some techniques which were used. Dont know if you have seen the thing with the guy in the chair a two of you lifting Him with two fingers, after both of you push down with your Hands on top of His Head. then with your index fingers its easy to lift Him. I started playing about with a few ideas and stumbled on it, it blew me away when it worked got everyone doing it ;D always worked.

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The only version that I saw of it, was lifting with both index fingers with a partner, so as to distribute the weight evenly between those who are doing the lifting. I think that it may be different to what you're describing.

This has really got me thinking about what a few of us were throwing around and talking about privatley a while ago.

I said that :

The physicist dudes have worked out that there is only something like 4% of matter within the universe but they dont know what the rest is made up of.

All they know is that the unknown quantity has a real effect on all of their calculations and they cant balance what is known mathmatically unless the unknown factor is written into it.

This they surmise is dark matter but they cant find it yet. They are trying, 'physically' in the Hardron collator or whatever its called.

When they create the collision they are looking for dark matter or dark energy : electrons that will bend off out of the explosion and dissapear; they can track all the atoms,matter and electrons paths so they will find out something; maybe it only happens once in every million big bangs that is also unknown to them.

Other more sceptical scientists reckon that dark matter doesnt exist and that gravity is not contant and varies throughout the universe and that is what the unknown factor is.

Until recently they all thought that the universe is expanding at an ever decreasing rate. Recently they have found out absolutley, that it is in fact expanding at an ever increasing rate!

Its strange, I havent heard any of them state "Hey maybe we are all right!" what if its actually both ?"

They all seem to think that one side will disprove the other.

I cant think like them, but I get the strong feeling that depending on your intention and your point of view (or where you stand within the universe) On which level you are at or from within which dimension you stand in your own personal point of view, facing or ignoring which other dimension via your intention, you will always get varing results.

Even the collator has its own point of view built into it by the people who designed it so it too has a point of view and therefore a limit.

I dont think the Universe has any limit, only barriers of protection so that everything takes it natural course prior to being able to leave the density of matter behind.

I think it is us who work from within duality (Individuality) < look even the word itself has the truth buried in it :cool::).

Or looked at or said another way: We have self imposed limits and we too are expanding at an ever increasing faster rate ourselves as is our surrounding universe.

One millenium I think it will turn around and everything will head back to the source.

Now you have bought this up Scrap: Maybe some scientists need to look closer to Earth to find that gravity is in fact not constant and that life cells do have an inherited memory and are gravity effected compared to what the cells belive they are, not what they just are physically.

Maybe its only life cells that have this condition and non alive cells dont.

Maybe cells that are being experienced by a life compared with cells that are not being experienced by life is the key to finding the difference that has at the moment got science split.

The older I get nothing is certain, interesting point of view and a good one.

haha well this is all very interesting, but I'm too tired at present to go into another long-winded explanation and debate on the theories of other dimensions, of gravity being the new unknown, and weakest of forces in the universe and potential reasons for it etc.

So I'll just say ...cool 8)

And go run some sprints.

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The older I get nothing is certain, interesting point of view and a good one.

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Yeah Im just throwing sh!t out there, wondering why myself.

I just wonder if any of them ( the physists) have done experiments such as yours concerning dead weight verses live weight?

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That could really only mean that gravity isnt constant and that it leaves a memory within life cells.

??? maybe.

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I find myself using this icon again

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The older I get nothing is certain, interesting point of view and a good one.

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Yeah Im just throwing sh!t out there, wondering why myself.

I just wonder if any of them ( the physists) have done experiments such as yours concerning dead weight verses live weight?

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I'm sure there's a pretty reasonable explanation for this, ie since all the blood has been pushed to your head and that most people don't stand perfectly straight the gravitational force acts like a torque, hence a small horizontal component is taken from the vertical causing the scales to miss calculate. But hell I have no idea, might have to give this a try.

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The older I get nothing is certain, interesting point of view and a good one.

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Yeah Im just throwing sh!t out there, wondering why myself.

I just wonder if any of them ( the physists) have done experiments such as yours concerning dead weight verses live weight?

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I'm sure there's a pretty reasonable explanation for this, ie since all the blood has been pushed to your head and that most people don't stand perfectly straight the gravitational force acts like a torque, hence a small horizontal component is taken from the vertical causing the scales to miss calculate. But hell I have no idea, might have to give this a try.

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Interesting theory.

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miss calculate. might have to give this a try.

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Miss Calculate. Sounds hot. :)

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The older I get nothing is certain, interesting point of view and a good one.

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Yeah Im just throwing sh!t out there, wondering why myself.

I just wonder if any of them ( the physists) have done experiments such as yours concerning dead weight verses live weight?

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I'm sure there's a pretty reasonable explanation for this, ie since all the blood has been pushed to your head and that most people don't stand perfectly straight the gravitational force acts like a torque, hence a small horizontal component is taken from the vertical causing the scales to miss calculate. But hell I have no idea, might have to give this a try.

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Personally, if ever it's true that it works, I would go with Salty on that one, an unequal repartition of blood falsifying the scale'S result for a handful of minutes at best, I really doubt that someone's losing weight for real with that technique, especially as it is mostly the blood that would cause such decreasing.

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That could really only mean that gravity isnt constant and that it leaves a memory within life cells.

??? maybe.

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I find myself using this icon again

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My theory sounds that bad to you eh?



Can't wait to hear yours. :domo-kun::sheep::domo-kun:

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Yeah Im just throwing sh!t out there, wondering why myself.

I just wonder if any of them ( the physists) have done experiments such as yours concerning dead weight verses live weight?

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I'm sure there's a pretty reasonable explanation for this, ie since all the blood has been pushed to your head and that most people don't stand perfectly straight the gravitational force acts like a torque, hence a small horizontal component is taken from the vertical causing the scales to miss calculate. But hell I have no idea, might have to give this a try.

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Personally, if ever it's true that it works, I would go with Salty on that one, an unequal repartition of blood falsifying the scale'S result for a handful of minutes at best, I really doubt that someone's losing weight for real with that technique, especially as it is mostly the blood that would cause such decreasing.

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I dont know,its strange however you look at it; Usually material thinking goes along with Newtons laws and if thats the case how can you trick a constant downward force into thinking it isnt there?

Or in other words how could shifting your weight of blood cells into your head that is still a dead weight on the top of a pair of scales vary the weight?

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I'm sure there's a pretty reasonable explanation for this, ie since all the blood has been pushed to your head and that most people don't stand perfectly straight the gravitational force acts like a torque, hence a small horizontal component is taken from the vertical causing the scales to miss calculate. But hell I have no idea, might have to give this a try.

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Personally, if ever it's true that it works, I would go with Salty on that one, an unequal repartition of blood falsifying the scale'S result for a handful of minutes at best, I really doubt that someone's losing weight for real with that technique, especially as it is mostly the blood that would cause such decreasing.

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I dont know,its strange however you look at it; Usually material thinking goes along with Newtons laws and if thats the case how can you trick a constant downward force into thinking it isnt there?

Or in other words how could shifting your weight of blood cells into your head that is still a dead weight on the top of a pair of scales vary the weight?

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A torque could, because thats the rotational force about a pivot (rather than a simple up down vector), a normal person would have a lower center of gravity. But since this blood has been forced to the upper portion of your body, your centre of gravity shifts upwards increasing the effect of the torque.

YB, I wish I had a teacher like that :o

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Originally Posted by Scrap

H is was about 74, was in to Meditation in a big way. One day I saw a guy Levitate it blew me away, watched some techniques which were used. Dont know if you have seen the thing with the guy in the chair a two of you lifting Him with two fingers, after both of you push down with your Hands on top of His Head. then with your index fingers its easy to lift Him. I started playing about with a few ideas and stumbled on it, it blew me away when it worked got everyone doing it ;D always worked.

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We used to do that at school - very freaky. We threw one geezer up in the air and he hit the celing - I kid you not!

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Personally, if ever it's true that it works, I would go with Salty on that one, an unequal repartition of blood falsifying the scale'S result for a handful of minutes at best, I really doubt that someone's losing weight for real with that technique, especially as it is mostly the blood that would cause such decreasing.

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I dont know,its strange however you look at it; Usually material thinking goes along with Newtons laws and if thats the case how can you trick a constant downward force into thinking it isnt there?

Or in other words how could shifting your weight of blood cells into your head that is still a dead weight on the top of a pair of scales vary the weight?

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A torque could, because thats the rotational force about a pivot (rather than a simple up down vector), a normal person would have a lower center of gravity. But since this blood has been forced to the upper portion of your body, your centre of gravity shifts upwards increasing the effect of the torque.

YB, I wish I had a teacher like that :o

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Interesting, torque, eh!
A bit like if you drove around in tight circles real fast some of the downward weight would get transferred outwards.

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I dont know,its strange however you look at it; Usually material thinking goes along with Newtons laws and if thats the case how can you trick a constant downward force into thinking it isnt there?

Or in other words how could shifting your weight of blood cells into your head that is still a dead weight on the top of a pair of scales vary the weight?

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A torque could, because thats the rotational force about a pivot (rather than a simple up down vector), a normal person would have a lower center of gravity. But since this blood has been forced to the upper portion of your body, your centre of gravity shifts upwards increasing the effect of the torque.

YB, I wish I had a teacher like that :o

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Interesting, torque, eh!
A bit like if you drove around in tight circles real fast some of the downward weight would get transferred outwards.

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That's not actually a force per say, more of a "pseudo" force, caused by the inertia of your body, making it feel like your being pushed outwards. The actual force vectors are directly ahead of you and at the center of the curve that you are traveling, if that makes sense. Finally my physics is coming in handy ;)

But yeah that's basically it, plus since the overall force change would be hardly noticeable to you while standing on the scales. So it's actually a pretty sweet way to lose a little bit extra weight if your needing a slight amount.

Edit: I do love your point of views Andre, I don't think saddo's would be the same without it. I'm always intrigued by what you have to say, makes me want to learn the deeper things in this life :)

Cheers mate,the deeper things in life ! I lost count of how many pits I deep'd today. :spongebob:

Not big only 3 to 4 but hollow and shallow 30 kt, some triple sections too couple of 4 to 5 seconds! :domo-kun:

Here, try this experiment. Step onto a weight scale, and lean in any direction you'd like. If your weight goes down, then you know that your theory is right. ;)

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Here, try this experiment. Step onto a weight scale, and lean in any direction you'd like. If your weight goes down, then you know that your theory is right. ;)

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I dont think it would at all ,on a large platform or large digital scales but it does on the cheap two feet bathroom scales cause your weight is off the centre upright support that is under the foot plate you only have to stand wrong on thse thigs to get a variation.

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Here, try this experiment. Step onto a weight scale, and lean in any direction you'd like. If your weight goes down, then you know that your theory is right. ;)

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I dont think it would at all ,on a large platform or large digital scales but it does on the cheap two feet bathroom scales cause your weight is off the centre upright support that is under the foot plate you only have to stand wrong on thse thigs to get a variation.

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It's a neat idea, Andre, but I don't think it explains it. A good example of how it works is a gyroscope. A particular gyroscope can feel very light when held, but when its parts stops spinning, you'll feel it's actual weight.

Anyways I weighed myself on a decent electronic scale 5 times before performing the 5-minute headstand. My weight was 151.6 lbs, this was repeated 5 times so I felt that I could trust it, and my weight was shown to be the same after 5 tries. After doing the headstand, my weight appeared to be 151.4lbs (repeated 3 times), and for a minute it remained and then it went back up to 151.6 lbs.

I'll try it again sometime and see if anything else can affect it. I wonder if food, water, or performing the headstand differently can change the results. Can it be repeated by using a inverted/upside-down table/bench? I'm still very curious about it, but I'm still not convinced yet.

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Here, try this experiment. Step onto a weight scale, and lean in any direction you'd like. If your weight goes down, then you know that your theory is right. ;)

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I dont think it would at all ,on a large platform or large digital scales but it does on the cheap two feet bathroom scales cause your weight is off the centre upright support that is under the foot plate you only have to stand wrong on thse thigs to get a variation.

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It's a neat idea, Andre, but I don't think it explains it. A good example of how it works is a gyroscope. A particular gyroscope can feel very light when held, but when its parts stops spinning, you'll feel it's actual weight.

Anyways I weighed myself on a decent electronic scale 5 times before performing the 5-minute headstand. My weight was 151.6 lbs, this was repeated 5 times so I felt that I could trust it, and my weight was shown to be the same after 5 tries. After doing the headstand, my weight appeared to be 151.4lbs (repeated 3 times), and for a minute it remained and then it went back up to 151.6 lbs.

I'll try it again sometime and see if anything else can affect it. I wonder if food, water, or performing the headstand differently can change the results. Can it be repeated by using a inverted/upside-down table/bench? I'm still very curious about it, but I'm still not convinced yet.

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You are keen! So you lost .2

Anyway didnt Scrap say 10 miniutes on your head?

Dont think it will work in Australia, :smilie_whisper: we are upside down already.

Scrap said 5 minutes. 10 minutes would be a pain in the neck. :-\;D

It seems to work on people differently, but it works for sure, yes 5 minutes Chris.