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New Mayweather Interview; Calls Emmanuel Steward an "Uncle Tom"
This whole interview's a bit odd to me, maybe he's just trying to get more publicity. A bit woe is me, why am I not a bigger star, look anyone that acts like he wouldn't be a bigger star if he was white is out to lunch but biggest sports star in the country, LOL, its a niche sport Floyd. Anyway I don't get too riled about what boxer's say in interviews but he's obviously pissed at Emmanuel for criticizing him on HBO and just thought hmm what is the worst thing I can call him. Just kind of mindless.
Floyd Mayweather: Race a factor in how he's viewed - ESPN
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Re: New Mayweather Interview; Calls Emmanuel Steward an "Uncle Tom"
There is of course no doubt he'd be a bigger star in his home country if he was from some other places, boxing just isn't that big here.
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Re: New Mayweather Interview; Calls Emmanuel Steward an "Uncle Tom"
Oh I was reaching for the kleenex on the 'No one ever says anything bad about Oscar' :cwm13:.He is way to backwards thinking for a guy about to face one of the ...biggest challenges in his new career.He's a huge cross over star,I just read he had WWE's Triple H in his ringwalk?
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I say bad things about Oscar all the time :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDGbGDNKC3s
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Re: New Mayweather Interview; Calls Emmanuel Steward an "Uncle Tom"
Now I don't know but isn't that a major slur for one black man to call another . People would like him if he wasn't such a cock !!
I for one am white, and it never enters my thoughts about the colour of an athlete or entertainer , but now that Floyd raises the issue I would be hard pushed to list 1 or 2 that are white that are in my top 10.
Get over yourself mate, I don't like you 'cuase you are a Knob, END OF.
Can't abide racism no matter what direction it's coming from.
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I couldn't care less what colour he is. A dick is a dick regardless of what colour it is. Mayweather has a personality that I just cannot warm to. He comes across as a petulant child far too often and it grates. I respect what he has achieved as a fighter, but I have little respect for the way he presents himself. I'm sure he has his good moments, but he doesn't show it very often.
And I always say negative things about Delahoya too. And Manny Pac. And Amir Khan. They are all different colours, I wish fighters would leave the race thing alone TBH. I'm sure there is an element of that in the mindset of some people, but I am solely motivated by two things a) How they fight and b) How they present themselves. Skin colour is irrelevant and needn't be brought up.
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Actually, I don't dislike Manny Pac at all. But I am critical of him, I guess its because he always goes against fighters who I like more. He comes across fairly well and is an exciting fighter. I don't like the others though.
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Mayweather might think Steward is an Uncle Tom, but the whole world thinks Mayweather is a cnut.
He whinges about the fact that he isnt popular but he seems to have no idea that the shite he spouts makes people hate him.
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OumaFan
There is of course no doubt he'd be a bigger star in his home country if he was from some other places, boxing just isn't that big here.
I think thats reversed. He'd be a bigger star if he was from a country that doesn't turn out a lot of boxers that make it at a big level.
Boxers come out of the US all the time so it's gonna be hard to find a fighter that has the entire USA behind them unless you are someone like Joe Louis.
Hence why some fighters have an entire country following because a big boxing star from there is one and a million.
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I don't know why people even keep paying attention to what PBF says. Excellent boxer but he just doesn't think before he speaks. Ever.
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....let's go Marquez!
Floyd had every opportunity to be America's Sweetheart like Ray Leonard, RJJ, Oscar, and Shane Mosley before him but he took the low road and wanted to wear the black hat and now he's apparently disappointed because he's unable to shake that off of his image.
I have no idea why he would lash out at Manny Steward though that's completely irrational.
Hey Floyd, Kanye West called, he wants his act back. Nobody can doubt Floyd's talent but on the same token no one can doubt that he's a world class prick either
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The 70s and 80s called.
They'd like their dated insult back please.
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Re: New Mayweather Interview; Calls Emmanuel Steward an "Uncle Tom"
The first and foremost reason why he's not a superstar that transcends all sports is because he's a complete cnut!!
That said does he have a point about he'd be bigger if he was white?
I genuinely (perhaps naively) think it makes no difference to us in the UK, dare I say it but a I feel we're a little more liberal than the US??!! :confused:
Stateside though race seems more of an issue. Do any of our US posters feel that should PBF have been white he would've been more of a household name?
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jamiebhoy
Now I don't know but isn't that a major slur for one black man to call another . People would like him if he wasn't such a cock !!
I for one am white, and it never enters my thoughts about the colour of an athlete or entertainer , but now that Floyd raises the issue I would be hard pushed to list 1 or 2 that are white that are in my top 10.
Get over yourself mate, I don't like you 'cuase you are a Knob, END OF.
Can't abide racism no matter what direction it's coming from.
It has been made to a slur, because those that usually throw it out have never read the book. So therefore simple distortion about the perception of the character from the book overtime has made it into a slur. Mostly amongst low-brows like Floyd. Floyd didn't really say why he was calling Manny an uncle tom he probably just heard his uncle roger say it then repeated it. That's the thing when you're an idiot you can blurt out dumb shit all day and never have to explain your reasoning.
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Conrad
The first and foremost reason why he's not a superstar that transcends all sports is because he's a complete cnut!!
That said does he have a point about he'd be bigger if he was white?
I genuinely (perhaps naively) think it makes no difference to us in the UK, dare I say it but a I feel we're a little more liberal than the US??!! :confused:
Stateside though race seems more of an issue. Do any of our US posters feel that should PBF have been white he would've been more of a household name?
No.
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Diane
No.
Fair enough... ;D
Just playing Devil's Advocate, but if Kelly Pavlik was black do you the he would have received the same kind of hype?
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OumaFan
Me Too :-\....
The Mayweathers come across as Sad in the desperate need for attention displayed by all but Jeff
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Conrad
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Diane
No.
Fair enough... ;D
Just playing Devil's Advocate, but if Kelly Pavlik was black do you the he would have received the same kind of hype?
Yes, maybe more so
Also if Floyd thinks he'd have it easy as a white guy, people would be MORE on his ass about not fighting the talent in/around his weight class. Rocky Marciano comes to mind, never ducked anyone and never lost to anyone yet catches crap about never fighting anyone.....if PBF was white people MAY come to my side of the fence and ask why didn't he unify? Why not fight the BEST out there? Why duck so many people?
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Conrad
The first and foremost reason why he's not a superstar that transcends all sports is because he's a complete cnut!!
That said does he have a point about he'd be bigger if he was white?
I genuinely (perhaps naively) think it makes no difference to us in the UK, dare I say it but a I feel we're a little more liberal than the US??!! :confused:
Stateside though race seems more of an issue. Do any of our US posters feel that should PBF have been white he would've been more of a household name?
Yes he would have. Guys like SRL, TIger woods, they are examples of white americas "model minority", floyd's a braggart that is influenced by hip hop culture the negative side of it. And even those model minorities are considered threats if they raise their voice too loudly.
Black men have been and will always be public enemy number 1 in the states. So floyd does have a very valid point, the fact that he's a cunt is only the easy way out.
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Floyd is a cocksucker....he's got it better than anyone in boxing (maybe bar Pacquiao) and he's got to be a prick about EVERYTHING.
There's going to be a new term named for Floyd once he gets beaten, heard of Schadenfreude? (Taking pleasure in someone else's pain/sorrow/misery/misfortune) well when Floyd loses to Marquez I think a lot of people will suffer from SchadenFLOYD, taking pleasure from Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s misfortune.
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Lyle
Floyd is a cocksucker....he's got it better than anyone in boxing (maybe bar Pacquiao) and he's got to be a prick about EVERYTHING
Funny you should say that Seems just like a veteran I know on a boxing forum who lives down south;D
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Roy Jones Jr, The X-ecutioner, Ali, Moseley are black and have been cherished sons of the U.S, they were arrogant, a bit cocky, but also showed class on many occasions and they always were here for excitement. Floyd doesn't. HE's not a nigger, not a nigga or a black. He's a cunt. And that race of rainbow warriors do not have a special color as attribute, a cunt can be of any color, they are purely analyzed by their shit attitude and their un-measured ego to sit the rest of the world around their hairy navel and to think it's a marble Jacuzzi that everybody should swim in.
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No one ever bets anymore :cwm13:.I'm betting the neighbors will be pissed by all the noise.
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Uncle tom comment is a racist slur and further tarnishes mayweather's already terrible persona.
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Conrad
The first and foremost reason why he's not a superstar that transcends all sports is because he's a complete cnut!!
That said does he have a point about he'd be bigger if he was white?
I genuinely (perhaps naively) think it makes no difference to us in the UK, dare I say it but a I feel we're a little more liberal than the US??!! :confused:
Stateside though race seems more of an issue. Do any of our US posters feel that should PBF have been white he would've been more of a household name?
I don't believe that! I think it's about his persona. I coming up blank about a white guy with Mayweather's persona.
Look at Ray Leonard and the like.... and also look at Obama. If the Character is there for people to like people they will like them. On the other side look at Look guys like (here's one) Brett Favre or Dennis Rodman, If the Character is there for people to hate, they will hate them.
Now, I do agree there is always going to be prejudice due to race, I think its only a contributing factor and the the primary reason.
He is always begging for attention and that just gets old fast!
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Seems like the new and improved, "classier" Mayweather is just a figment of the imagination.
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Rican
Seems like the new and improved, "classier" Mayweather is just a figment of the imagination.
Un-true, he's at least 15% nicer ;)
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Lyle
....let's go Marquez!
Floyd had every opportunity to be America's Sweetheart like Ray Leonard, RJJ, Oscar, and Shane Mosley before him but he took the low road and wanted to wear the black hat and now he's apparently disappointed because he's unable to shake that off of his image.
I have no idea why he would lash out at Manny Steward though that's completely irrational.
Hey Floyd, Kanye West called, he wants his act back. Nobody can doubt Floyd's talent but on the same token no one can doubt that he's a world class prick either
Talented as he no doubt is, the one thing 'money mayweather' cant buy is class. Its idiotic comments like that , that keep the small embers of racism burning. Id go as far to say that outside of the U.S., most kids wouldnt have heard of an uncle tom, certainly not here in ireland. Mr Mayweather has single handedly introduced a new phrase to kids who have maybe just taken an interest in boxing. Congrats Floyd. Also R.I.P. Darren Sutherland
