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Good stuff. I remember reading about another good fight on the card. Anyone recall who was on it...
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Check it out: Pavlik-Williams official | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
Good stuff. I remember reading about another good fight on the card. Anyone recall who was on it...
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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
As far as Boxrec is concerned, Josh Clottey is facing the dubious TBA (most active fighter in all of boxing) on the undercard.
So Mosley has backed out of the Clottey fight? Trying to land the PBF contract I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
As far as Boxrec is concerned, Josh Clottey is facing the dubious TBA (most active fighter in all of boxing) on the undercard.
Chalk up loss #2 for Pavlik.
and that's his mistake right there, i'm pretty sure Shane isn't gonna fight in 2009, and sorry at his age, he doesn't have that luxuryQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHSo Mosley has backed out of the Clottey fight? Trying to land the PBF contract I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
As far as Boxrec is concerned, Josh Clottey is facing the dubious TBA (most active fighter in all of boxing) on the undercard.
can't wait for it
do i really wanna believe this?? yea i guess. it better happen im tired of waiting for this one.
Should be great fight both guy are incredibly durable, have a lot of heart and both can make a strong case for victory.
My Pick: Williams UD too much volume for Pavlik to sit down on his punches.
Will believe this one when they are touching gloves in the ring.
I got Williams UD if this fight goes ahead.....
Nice fight if it happens!! I got Williams too with his reach and too much volume for Pavlik to handle.
If he allows Pavlik in late though, like he did with Margarito, he might not make it out.
Yeah they don't come any more active than TBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
As far as Boxrec is concerned, Josh Clottey is facing the dubious TBA (most active fighter in all of boxing) on the undercard.
And I'm going with Pavlik by knock out.
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Originally Posted by Althugz
I agree, after seeing him school Wright, though... I figure he won't give Pavlik any breathing room.
FOTY. hopefully.
Well i think Pavlik has a great chance of beating Williams to be honest. I mean Williams is there to be hit he is no Hopkins that is for sure. Also i am not sure how he while deal with the power of Pavlik. I mean people write him off because he lost to Hopkins and i cant agree with it at all. Also i am not down playing his win over Wright, but to be honest what version did he really beat. I mean Wright had not fought for some time and was getting up there in age.
Who's writing off Pavlik cuz he lost to a Hall of Famer? Williams dipped his feet in the bigger mens' territory by fighting Wright and passed with flying colors... I agree with that it will be pretty interesting to see how Paul deals with Kelly's power... It will be interesting indeed, but should he be able to, there's no way he will be able to hold up to Williams' workrate even though trough most of his career that was Kelly's claim to fame along with his power... If Kelly gets to that body and takes some air out of the tires in the early rounds it'll be much easier for him down the stretch. It's fair to say that Kelly hits much harder then anyone Paul's ever faced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I'm a huge Williams fan, but Pavlik is going to starch him. Williams has a porous defense and while his activity is going to bother Pavlik, it's also going to provide him with a lot of opportunities to get his shots in. Pavlik is also, like Williams, and extremely active fighter and, unlike Williams, his chin his been proven in the middleweight division.
Pavlik by TKO in a FOTY candidate.
Yea I be taking my boy, Kelly Pavlik, man of humility, turned whiskey-drinking-nuttsack-fan-punching-tractor driving loon, by late round KO. 9th or 10th.
Going to be a great fight to watch. Williams is a freak of nature with that output.
Seriously, I think William will win that one; he throws way too many punches, has a freak reach advantage and has still thunder power though not as much as Pavlik. I see him getting the victory by UD or a very late KO. Seriously, this fight is one of the most intriguing that happened lately (in my own opinion) and I can't wait for that one.
Its incredible that a tall middleweight like Pavlik is going to be outreached by 7 inches by a guy who just moved up from welter!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Any chance this fight breaks any most ounches thrown records?
Pavlik doesn't throw hundreds of punches a round..Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleIts incredible that a tall middleweight like Pavlik is going to be outreached by 7 inches by a guy who just moved up from welter!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Any chance this fight breaks any most ounches thrown records?
I don't know what everyone's love with Pavlik is all of a sudden.
He may catch Williams with that right though
That might happen but Williams jaw seems to be pretty fine and I am sure he can sustain enough to resist, especially at the rate where Pavlik throws things.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyPavlik doesn't throw hundreds of punches a round..Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleIts incredible that a tall middleweight like Pavlik is going to be outreached by 7 inches by a guy who just moved up from welter!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Any chance this fight breaks any most ounches thrown records?
I don't know what everyone's love with Pavlik is all of a sudden.
He may catch Williams with that right though
Eagle: This is incredibly freak, actually, William has the same reach as the Klitschko brothers more or less, that says a lot.
What do u mean all of a sudden? The guy has been Middleweight champ since September 2007. He got beaten by an alltime great 10 pounds over his best weight, but other than that has beaten all his other opponents when fighting at 160 comprehensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyPavlik doesn't throw hundreds of punches a round..Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleIts incredible that a tall middleweight like Pavlik is going to be outreached by 7 inches by a guy who just moved up from welter!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Any chance this fight breaks any most ounches thrown records?
I don't know what everyone's love with Pavlik is all of a sudden.
He may catch Williams with that right though
He doesnt throw 100s of punches a round but he is very active for a middleweight, and couple that with Williams ridiculous output and u have high punch stats.
Middleweight at the moment is about as weak as the Heavyweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleWhat do u mean all of a sudden? The guy has been Middleweight champ since September 2007. He got beaten by an alltime great 10 pounds over his best weight, but other than that has beaten all his other opponents when fighting at 160 comprehensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyPavlik doesn't throw hundreds of punches a round..Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
I don't know what everyone's love with Pavlik is all of a sudden.
He may catch Williams with that right though
He doesnt throw 100s of punches a round but he is very active for a middleweight, and couple that with Williams ridiculous output and u have high punch stats.
Pavlik is a good fighting champion but he isn't what's going to revitalize the middleweight division.
However I think he has a chance to beat Williams, Williams has a tendancy to go defensive only after he gets tagged by something or gets "stunned" as he puts it, against Pavlik he cannot afford that, he is gonna have to fight smart, I won't hesitate to say if he fights Pavlik the same way he fought Margarito chances are he'll get floored.
I see Williams starting fast but then wilting under the heavier shots of Pavlik in the later rounds. Kelly by 11th round TKO.
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Originally Posted by MajestyMiddleweight at the moment is about as weak as the Heavyweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleWhat do u mean all of a sudden? The guy has been Middleweight champ since September 2007. He got beaten by an alltime great 10 pounds over his best weight, but other than that has beaten all his other opponents when fighting at 160 comprehensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
He doesnt throw 100s of punches a round but he is very active for a middleweight, and couple that with Williams ridiculous output and u have high punch stats.
Pavlik is a good fighting champion but he isn't what's going to revitalize the middleweight division.
However I think he has a chance to beat Williams, Williams has a tendancy to go defensive only after he gets tagged by something or gets "stunned" as he puts it, against Pavlik he cannot afford that, he is gonna have to fight smart, I won't hesitate to say if he fights Pavlik the same way he fought Margarito chances are he'll get floored.
slightly harsh
Pavlik, Williams, Abraham, Winky and then theres the endless 154/168ers that could drop up and down.
This fight needed to happen for the divisions sake though. Sauerland and pavliks team spent so long keeping kelly and AA away from eachother its good to see a high quality middleweight contest at long last.
Gonna bank on Williams every day of the week on this one. Pavlik will have the power but PWs just gonna dominate with that superior footwork and handspeed all night long
PW to take a very unanimous 118-110 esque points win!!
A white, media-friendly, working-class 'hero', from a salt of the earth place like Youngstown isn't going to revitalize the division or at least interest in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Whilst an quiet, freakish lookin dude from Georgia will? :-X
One man can't revitalize a division, but there can't realistically be any debate over which of the two man has the greater star potential.
This is the only fight in this division till the likes of Jacobs & Korobov push on. I'm hoping Williams wins, pretty much guaranteeing a rematch. I do like PWill a lot, but I think this 'he's avoided stuff' has been well & truly overplayed. I also think he can't make 147 any more & I'd like to see a welter call him out on it, just to see if he could make the limit. I reckon Williams does just enough to eek out a narrow win in a close fight, setting up a bigger money rematch
Williams will send Pavlik back to rehab with his victory. I see it going like the Margarito fight, but I think Williams has improved since then considerably. He has learned a lot from his loss and has been annihilating his opposition to either KO or wide UD.
I don't think Pavlik will be dropped but I think it will be pretty one sided. Pavlik will get frustrated like he did with BHop and when that happened he just dug himself deeper into a hole and had no back up plan.
I hear that. I wonder why Pavlik took this fight. He had a tv date with Mora who is a much easier opponent. He then could have unified the division by fighting and beating Sturm even if it was for less money thereby prolonging his seat on top of the middleweight division and when time came, he could have someone like Bute or Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
I guess a win over Pwill puts Pavlik back on the map in terms of big name fights, but it just seems like a lot of risk right now.
Too many variables to predict. Williams has too many pots on the fire... Pavlik hasn't fought anyone significant since Hopkins... Williams has never been sparked but Pavlik has knocked out almost everyone he fought... Pavlik is easy to hit and Williams will throw punches from noon to midnight and I suspect he'll be even more of a problem at MW than he was at WW.
Paul Williams by surprising stoppage! He's a southpaw, he doesn't rely on 1 punch power even though he may have something close to 1 punch power. And Williams is very active in the ring...I think Pavlik will have issues with PW's style and aggressive nature.