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What will be your response after November 14th if Pacquiao knocks Cotto out? Where will that put him in the list of all time greats? Will that put the edge on Pacquiao's side to defeat Mayweather? Vice versa, What will be your response if Cotto knocks out Pacquiao? Where on the list does he go? Would that put your betting money on Cotto over Mayweather?
I am gonna be in awe with either outcome to be honest. For Pac to be a champ in 7 different weight classes is amazing and he has to be in the talks of ATG. If Cotto wins he is known for stopping Pac and his great run and he will shut me up cause I don't think he has been the same since Margarito. I am OK with either outcome since I do respect boths fighters. 2 more days!!
I expect Pacquiao to stop Cotto. He's already an all-time great, but beating Cotto, especially by stoppage, would be arguably the most impressive victory of his storied career. As for Mayweather, he'll ruin Pacquiao if they fight. I can't foresee anything happeneing in the Cotto fight that could convince me otherwise.
As for Cotto, if he stops Pacquiao it'll be an impressive victory, but I think it will (unfairly) be considered somehow less impressive than if Pacquiao stopped him, even though Pacquiao is the favorite. I'm not sure that last sentence makes sense to anyone but me. As for Cotto - Mayweather, much like Pacquiao, I can't foresee Cotto doing anything in this fight to convince me he could beat Mayweather, though I also think that Mayweather - Cotto could potentially be a more competitive fight than Mayweather - Pacquaio.
I like Pacquaio, not a shocker, but I've never rooted against Cotto, I will this time but the only reason I would really be disappointed is I want to see Pacquaio-Mayweather, Manny is the only one I give a decent shot at beating Floyd, I just can't see Cotto doing it.
"fuck Me!"
I agree with everything except for Cotto presenting Mayweather more of a problem than Pacquiao would.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I think Mayweather beats both, but Pacquiaos speed and angles would give him more problems than anything Cotto could show him
If pacquiao wins i'd like to see him snub a mayweather fight because he won't need it for his legacy and I dont think he has much of a chance to defeat mayweather anyways... unless something really drastic happens. If Mayweather doesnt get Pacquiao he wont even be able to claim he was the best of his generation .
If Cotto knocks out Pacquiao I will say "Lordy, lordy! That was a mighty fine piece of work! Let's have some sausages!".
If Pacquiao knocks out Cotto I will sit in silence for several minutes before coming on here to concede that the better man won. No actual words will emanate from my lips. The rest of the day will pass in some kind of daze.
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Originally Posted by miles
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If pac kayoes cotto I'll go to all the boxing forums that im a member and try to pacify some rabid pac fans
If cotto kayoes pac I'll go to all the boxing forums that im a member and try to pacify some rabid cotto fans
The fight was fukking fixedQuote:
Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan
I laughed at that 1st bit, cheers;DQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
I'll wake up at between 5:30-6am next morning, and go for a poop. It is the one thing I know for a certainty.
I know most people think Pac would pose a bigger threat to Mayweather than Cotto would and truthfully I think he might too. But I also think that Pac's style will allow Mayweather to counter him all night, something JMM had success with. I could see Mayweather picking Pac off all night, hurting him and/or stopping him. With Cotto I think it would be a differently style of fight, albeit (I've been using that word a lot lately for some reason) a less exciting one. I think Cotto's timing, size, and style *might* allow him to be more competitive with Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The KillerI agree with everything except for Cotto presenting Mayweather more of a problem than Pacquiao would.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I think Mayweather beats both, but Pacquiaos speed and angles would give him more problems than anything Cotto could show him
If pacquiao wins i'd like to see him snub a mayweather fight because he won't need it for his legacy and I dont think he has much of a chance to defeat mayweather anyways... unless something really drastic happens. If Mayweather doesnt get Pacquiao he wont even be able to claim he was the best of his generation .
Pac will more than likely stop Cotto and i'll say I told you so. As far as how i see a fight with mayweather going, my opinion doesnt change. Pac has what it takes to bring down the money maker.
I don't see anyone under 155 pounds that could stop Mayweather, and if Pac did KO Cotto I would be incredibly impressed.. As would anyone...
But as CFH said, Mayweather would demolish Pac.. There just isn't any way that Pac would win.. He's fast, but he will still struggle to land anything effective on Mayweather... And even when landing effectively, Pac still isn't going to have the power to even shake Mayweather...
Cotto you could imagine would at least be prepared to take a bit of a beating to maybe rough Floyd up, but even Cotto is to "boxer" oriented which Floyd would be able to pick off all night unless Cotto was prepared to make it at least a little ugly.. Having a game plan to charge Mayweather and rough him up to the body, cut off the ring, I agree would lead to a much better fight than Pac/Mayweather..
Still I would certainly watch either fight Mayweather and give it the old college try..
I don't mind either winning, I want a good match. However, if Pacman wins, I will be afraid of the army of pactrolls that will come over here, start 200 new topics that will more or less say the same thing, tell us how they knew and how they know their boxing, that Manny is the best pound for pound ever and such. It could be a terrible day and even a terrible month for the saddo citizens.
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Originally Posted by Cortez The KillerI agree with everything except for Cotto presenting Mayweather more of a problem than Pacquiao would.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I think Mayweather beats both, but Pacquiaos speed and angles would give him more problems than anything Cotto could show him
If pacquiao wins i'd like to see him snub a mayweather fight because he won't need it for his legacy and I dont think he has much of a chance to defeat mayweather anyways... unless something really drastic happens. If Mayweather doesnt get Pacquiao he wont even be able to claim he was the best of his generation .
Er, what?
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Originally Posted by Nameless
I'm sure the mods will be working overtime and several bans will be handed out. :cool:
Whatever is said after the fight has already been said before the fight. Issues over weight for both fighters etc.
For me he's already up there pretty much and beating Cotto and Floyd would put him right up there.
Not just his achievements but the way he fights is brilliant to watch.
How many times can you say Mannys been in a boring fight?
Not many is it ;)
I completely agree that Cotto v. Mayweather will be more competitive than Pacquiao v. Mayweather. Pacquiao beating Mayweather would be one of the bigger upsets in boxing. And the cynic in me doesn't think a Mayweather v. Pacquiao fight will be fun to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI know most people think Pac would pose a bigger threat to Mayweather than Cotto would and truthfully I think he might too. But I also think that Pac's style will allow Mayweather to counter him all night, something JMM had success with. I could see Mayweather picking Pac off all night, hurting him and/or stopping him. With Cotto I think it would be a differently style of fight, albeit (I've been using that word a lot lately for some reason) a less exciting one. I think Cotto's timing, size, and style *might* allow him to be more competitive with Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The KillerI agree with everything except for Cotto presenting Mayweather more of a problem than Pacquiao would.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I think Mayweather beats both, but Pacquiaos speed and angles would give him more problems than anything Cotto could show him
If pacquiao wins i'd like to see him snub a mayweather fight because he won't need it for his legacy and I dont think he has much of a chance to defeat mayweather anyways... unless something really drastic happens. If Mayweather doesnt get Pacquiao he wont even be able to claim he was the best of his generation .
I absolutely agree.. matter of fact, that is perhaps the only reason why I would absolutely want Cotto to win... to avoid that trolls submerging. THough when I think about it, the trolls will come anyway and say that PAcman should have won or that Cotto was too big and that he's still the best. I think we're dild either way, Missy though it'll be worst if Pac wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
I'm sure the mods will be working overtime and several bans will be handed out. :cool:
Whatever is said after the fight has already been said before the fight. Issues over weight for both fighters etc.
pac has already defied the odds so many times
But this is a way tougher fight than ODLH or hatton. If he wins this regardless of what happens from then on in the guy is an all time great!
If Pac beats Cotto and Floyd
Particularly if he beats them well (KD or Strong UD)
Strong argument for one of the best fighters to ever lace em up
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Originally Posted by sonny78
if he beats cotto, mayweather and mosley all in conclusive fashion i completely agree
would have to rate him just that bit higher than leonard as the greatest ever!!
Hard for anyone to disagree if you throw Mosley in thereQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by sonny78
if he beats cotto, mayweather and mosley all in conclusive fashion i completely agree
would have to rate him just that bit higher than leonard as the greatest ever!!
Please tell me you meant Robinson. Sugar Ray Leonard is in no way the greatest ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by sonny78
if he beats cotto, mayweather and mosley all in conclusive fashion i completely agree
would have to rate him just that bit higher than leonard as the greatest ever!!
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Originally Posted by CFHPlease tell me you meant RobinsonQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by sonny78
if he beats cotto, mayweather and mosley all in conclusive fashion i completely agree
would have to rate him just that bit higher than leonard as the greatest ever!!
1.Leonard
2.Robinson
3.Ali
Everyone knows this surely??
Damn it! Fuk'n Awsome!
That makes perfect sense mate and I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Weird how this is the case but Pac is the clear favourite, is must be down to the step up in weight a Pac's part
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Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan
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Originally Posted by Dizaster
Mayweather doesnt demolish anyone my friend! He does just what it takes to win (in very boring fasion). I honestly cant remember an exciting Mayweather fight. No chance that Mayweather demolishes Pac. Pacquiao's not just a blood and guts all or nothing fighter. He doesnt get credit for his ring generalship, not to mention he has the smartest trainer out there. Im not sure what your deffinition of demolish is but mine is a KO. If you think for one second Floyd could KO manny than you've obviously lost your mind! Pacquiao would present a combination of speed, movement, angles, and aggression that would frustrate Floyd!;)