Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

Manny Pacquiao camp looking ahead to possible fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. - ESPN


"Manny suffered a broken right ear drum"

Good article. I think Roach is whistling past the graveyard though. Pac-man will make it a relatively competitive fight, but Floyd will outpoint him.

Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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Wow we finally agree on something...I think floyd will keep him on the end of that jab, but it will more more difficult than JMM or Judah, simply because of two things.

Manny's left handed which means Floyd will lead with rights that will take him closer to manny. Secondly, when I was watching the Cotto fight after the first round, I said "If manny picks up his activity cotto will be in trouble"..This is what makes the floyd-pac fight closer than I thought before. Floyd is a victim of his own success and hasn't really been able to put three or more QUICK combos together. He uses the Roy jones strategy of pot-shotting. Floyd hasn't really had to move ALOT during a fight since the second JLC fight. So it will be interesting to see How Floyd will handle the jumping bean Manny Pacquiao once he starts to bounce.

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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Here we go again, Mayweather worshipping as usual. You can say many things but when you say Mayweather roughs Pacquiao up your obviously confused! Mayweather doesn't rough anyone up unless they have no defense (Gatti and Hatton come to mind), otherwise he tends to just outpoint people in an incredibly boring fashion. Pacquiao will once again beat the odds against Mayweather and overtake him with movement, speed, combinations, and the biggest heart in boxing!

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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Cotto ran for 4 rounds, Floyd will run all 12

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Cotto was landing punches, I still thought he had a chance until it was clear he was overwhelmed because of that. Also, I think you could clearly see Manny was bothered by Cotto's punches which is more then you can say for De La Hoya, Diaz and Hatton. I also don't think his defense was as good in this one as it was made to look in that one. Didn't matter, Manny came to fight fire with fire and that's how he won. However, I think now that he has faced that type of clean punching, there can be no questions about Pac's chin or toughness.

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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JMM is not really good measure of how Maweather would do against Pacquiao. JMM can't handle outside fighters. Look what happened to him against Chris John.

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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Now then Buddy :D

Interesting analysis, to a certain degree i agree with you, apart from the Floyd beating Manny bit. He did rough Hatton up for long periods using dirty elbows and forearms, but Hatton was in range for Floyd to utalise these dirty tricks, plus Cortez let him get away with it. Dont think Manny will put himself into a position to allow Floyd to use this tactic though. He'll be in and out so quick Floyd wont know what the hells going on.

Does anyone see Mayweather Snr having any part of Floyds camp for this one, or will it be all left to uncle Roger?

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Cotto was landing punches, I still thought he had a chance until it was clear he was overwhelmed because of that. Also, I think you could clearly see Manny was bothered by Cotto's punches which is more then you can say for De La Hoya, Diaz and Hatton. I also don't think his defense was as good in this one as it was made to look in that one. Didn't matter, Manny came to fight fire with fire and that's how he won. However, I think now that he has faced that type of clean punching, there can be no questions about Pac's chin or toughness.

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It doesn't matter how tough Manny is though, Marquez handled Floyd's power just fine, but he couldn't counter or catch Floyd with his punches. We have seen Pacquiao go into a shell when Marquez hit him to the body and kept Manny's rhythym off beat. Mayweather will do that a lot better, and Manny will suffer a lot more from having to face a guy the same speed as him than Mayweather will.

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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I am responding to both of you, because Mayweather didn't rough Hatton up at all, he was getting mauled on the ropes, but he was too good for Hatton to hit him very often and eventually he adapted(something Manny can't do), and was able to pick Hatton apart as he began to tire.

Also why hasn't anyone seen Mayweather fight a southpaw? He DOESN'T run against southpaws -.-

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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JMM is not really good measure of how Maweather would do against Pacquiao. JMM can't handle outside fighters. Look what happened to him against Chris John.

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What matters is that Mayweather is clearly faster than Marquez and bigger, and that Marquez was able to handle Manny's power, and he was able to hit Pacquiao at will, and nullify Manny's offensive brilliance. Mayweather does all these things, but better than Marquez.

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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JMM is not really good measure of how Maweather would do against Pacquiao. JMM can't handle outside fighters. Look what happened to him against Chris John.

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What matters is that Mayweather is clearly faster than Marquez and bigger, and that Marquez was able to handle Manny's power, and he was able to hit Pacquiao at will, and nullify Manny's offensive brilliance. Mayweather does all these things, but better than Marquez.

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How many times must i say this? Manny is a different animal than he was then. Hes gotten more powerful and skilled. If you want to compare them in the marquez fight go ahead, but like i said Pac man has dominated in much more convincing fashion DLH and Hatton. When pac stops floyd your going to be telling yourselves. Wait..... that cant happen. He couldnt KO marquez, and I i'll again say i told ya so.

Luke I can see what your saying manny has definetly improved leaps and bounds which is scary.. But so has Floyd, Castillo was 7 years ago and Floyd had an injury and left 0 doubt in the rematch, as far as Judah and his speed, I saw the same Judah who gives everyone trouble for the 1st few rounds.. Hell Judah is the undisputed Champion of 3 rounders until Floyd was busting him the rest of the way bloodying him up and Judah quitting by lowblowing and hitting in the back of the head on purpose....

So thosse seem to be the 2 fights that everyone is basing Pacs success on, I mean really Roach is listening to that fatass old shot to pieces Castillo who is on their sparring payroll, thats the only way that guy could get a job anymore

pac damaged his own eardrum from his singing.

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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JMM is not really good measure of how Maweather would do against Pacquiao. JMM can't handle outside fighters. Look what happened to him against Chris John.

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JMM beat John it was close in some of the rounds, but JMM won that fight. I don't care what the hometown judges or boxrec say.

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Wow we finally agree on something...I think floyd will keep him on the end of that jab, but it will more more difficult than JMM or Judah, simply because of two things.

Manny's left handed which means Floyd will lead with rights that will take him closer to manny. Secondly, when I was watching the Cotto fight after the first round, I said "If manny picks up his activity cotto will be in trouble"..This is what makes the floyd-pac fight closer than I thought before. Floyd is a victim of his own success and hasn't really been able to put three or more QUICK combos together. He uses the Roy jones strategy of pot-shotting. Floyd hasn't really had to move ALOT during a fight since the second JLC fight. So it will be interesting to see How Floyd will handle the jumping bean Manny Pacquiao once he starts to bounce.

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This pretty sums up why I think Pac will win. His combinations are what has people all fuked up. They think he's done and hits them with 3 or 4 more. Pac is not the defensive master that Floyd is but he's improved enough to handle a potshot here and there. Floyd is barely hittable and when he is hit it's rarely clean, but Manny's combos should touch him enough to get the unanimous decision.

Nice interview, I still think PBF would win but you can't help but believe Roach.

Best quote from that article by Roach

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I know he is hard to get to but we will get to him. Manny can match Mayweather's speed and he has better footwork and more balls

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Floyd Fragile??? Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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Cotto ran for 4 rounds, Floyd will run all 12

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I am responding to both of you, because Mayweather didn't rough Hatton up at all, he was getting mauled on the ropes, but he was too good for Hatton to hit him very often and eventually he adapted(something Manny can't do), and was able to pick Hatton apart as he began to tire.

Also why hasn't anyone seen Mayweather fight a southpaw? He DOESN'T run against southpaws -.-

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1. Isn't is possible Mayweather may fight Manny differently than he has fought other southpaws? What are the advantages to Floyd using this style as opposed to his usual style against a southpaw or Manny in particular? Admittedly, I need to rewach the Corley and Judah fights.
2. Why wouldn't Mayweather use his size and reach advantage to counter and keep out of reach as has been successful for him in the past?

Taeth, since you're the expert on Mayweather, can you tell me when the last time Mayweather was hit flush and who had the most success connecting against Mayweather?

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I am responding to both of you, because Mayweather didn't rough Hatton up at all, he was getting mauled on the ropes, but he was too good for Hatton to hit him very often and eventually he adapted(something Manny can't do), and was able to pick Hatton apart as he began to tire.

Also why hasn't anyone seen Mayweather fight a southpaw? He DOESN'T run against southpaws -.-

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1. Isn't is possible Mayweather may fight Manny differently than he has fought other southpaws? What are the advantages to Floyd using this style as opposed to his usual style against a southpaw or Manny in particular? Admittedly, I need to rewach the Corley and Judah fights.
2. Why wouldn't Mayweather use his size and reach advantage to counter and keep out of reach as has been successful for him in the past?

Taeth, since you're the expert on Mayweather, can you tell me when the last time Mayweather was hit flush and who had the most success connecting against Mayweather?

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floyd gets hit flush in everyfight he just has a good chin believe it or not....But the most I've ever seen him hurt was the left that Chop landed on him but he recovered extremely fast because he can take a shot.

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JMM is not really good measure of how Maweather would do against Pacquiao. JMM can't handle outside fighters. Look what happened to him against Chris John.

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What matters is that Mayweather is clearly faster than Marquez and bigger, and that Marquez was able to handle Manny's power, and he was able to hit Pacquiao at will, and nullify Manny's offensive brilliance. Mayweather does all these things, but better than Marquez.

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How many times must i say this? Manny is a different animal than he was then. Hes gotten more powerful and skilled. If you want to compare them in the marquez fight go ahead, but like i said Pac man has dominated in much more convincing fashion DLH and Hatton. When pac stops floyd your going to be telling yourselves. Wait..... that cant happen. He couldnt KO marquez, and I i'll again say i told ya so.

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I think there's no question he has improved and flourished at this weight, but the fact that he struggled so much with MArquez but not any of his opponents since can't just be attributed to this. A big reason is the fact that he hasn't fought anyone since with a real straight right hand. Marquez has a great one he can counter with, which is going to give Manny huge problems no matter how much he could continue to improve. Thinking about it, the last guy before Marquez he fought that really had a good straight right, was Erik MOrales. Barrera's best punch is the left hook, Oscar and Cotto are almost exclusively left hookers, as far as actually being able to hurt you.. Am I wrong??? He hasn't been hit with a single good right hand counter since he fought Marquez, you think MAyweather wouldn't land his?