I know this will be done a thousand times between now and fight time if it comes off i just wondered right now fresh of there victories Mayweather vs Marquez and Pac vs Cotto who you think wins.
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I know this will be done a thousand times between now and fight time if it comes off i just wondered right now fresh of there victories Mayweather vs Marquez and Pac vs Cotto who you think wins.
can't wait for this one, been thinking about who'd win for a while and at the moment Im leaning towards PBF by close points decision.
you should never bet against neither of these fighters. but if i had to choose right now i say Pac and im a floyd fan.
Mayweather would probably win.
He is a bad style matchup for Pacquiao.
I'm never counting Pacquiao out again though, He can win.
Floyd Mayweather Jr, Manny Pacquiao is great. But still the new and improved Manny Pacquiao, still went life and death with JMM. And Floyd Mayweather Jr is pretty much better than JMM in most departments, so Floyd Mayweather Jr by close decision.
In his last few fights, Pacquiao surpassed expectations a million times. I'm leaning towards him against Mayweather.
Pacquiao by TKO. He is unpredictable and his punches comes to any angle. I don't know if Mayweather can stand Pacquiao barrage punches. Pacquiao has high KO rate 69.09%
If Mayweather keeps running and don't trade punches. Mayweather by SD
Very close to call. Anything can happen.
If floyd keeps manny away from him, floyd wins easy..if he sits in the shell manny's activity and volume will break him down.
my heart says PACMAN as he is everything a good role model should be , my head says its a bad clash of styles for him.
Thats about exactly how I feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegitThats about exactly how I feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
So far its' 13 Mayweather 4 for Pac which is what i expected.
Mayweather's KO percentage isn't that much lower than Pacquiao's...Quote:
Originally Posted by Intazzz
Yes. Not much. But base on quality opponents Pacquiao KO is better than Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHMayweather's KO percentage isn't that much lower than Pacquiao's...Quote:
Originally Posted by Intazzz
In Last 10 fights.
Pacquiao was 10-0 (7KO)
Miguel Angel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
David Diaz
Jorge Solis
Erik Morales (2x)
Mayweather was 10-0 (5KO)
Ricky Hatton
Sharmba Mitchell
Arturo Gatti
Henry Bruseles
Phillip N'dou
I don't think Mayweather can knock Pacquiao. I'm 100% sure. The only way Mayweather can win is by running all the time.
Pacquiao he can finish Mayweather Jr. if he hit him with his weird barrage angle shot. I'm sure he can drop bombs to Mayweather Jr. . If Zub Judah can... Pacquiao can do it too. Pacquiao is better than Zab.
I hope Mayweather run and use the ring to win. :rolleyes: There is no way Mayweather will trade punches against the Pacman. Pacquiao can take punches. :-X Floyd hasn't fought a true welterweight since Baldomir over 3 years ago.
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Originally Posted by IntazzzYes. Not much. But base on quality opponents Pacquiao KO is better than Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHMayweather's KO percentage isn't that much lower than Pacquiao's...Quote:
Originally Posted by Intazzz
In Last 10 fights.
Pacquiao was 10-0 (7KO)
Miguel Angel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
David Diaz
Jorge Solis
Erik Morales (2x)
Mayweather was 10-0 (5KO)
Ricky Hatton
Sharmba Mitchell
Arturo Gatti
Henry Bruseles
Phillip N'dou
I don't think Mayweather can knock Pacquiao. I'm 100% sure. The only way Mayweather can win is by running all the time.
Pacquiao he can finish Mayweather Jr. if he hit him with his weird barrage angle shot. I'm sure he can drop bombs to Mayweather Jr. . If Zub Judah can... Pacquiao can do it too. Pacquiao is better than Zab.
I hope Mayweather run and use the ring to win. :rolleyes: There is no way Mayweather will trade punches against the Pacman. Pacquiao can take punches. :-X Floyd hasn't fought a true welterweight since Baldomir over 3 years ago.
judah also has a 5 inch reach advantage over pacman. The same reach advantage floyd will have over pacman which he will use to his advantage. Pac will be off balance trying to hit floyd if floyd moves. If floyd sits in the pocket then it will be a long night for floyd.
Where you get your measurement??? Pac has the Longer arm than Judah!!! Judah's a B fighter. Pac's an A+ fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by IntazzzYes. Not much. But base on quality opponents Pacquiao KO is better than Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
In Last 10 fights.
Pacquiao was 10-0 (7KO)
Miguel Angel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
David Diaz
Jorge Solis
Erik Morales (2x)
Mayweather was 10-0 (5KO)
Ricky Hatton
Sharmba Mitchell
Arturo Gatti
Henry Bruseles
Phillip N'dou
I don't think Mayweather can knock Pacquiao. I'm 100% sure. The only way Mayweather can win is by running all the time.
Pacquiao he can finish Mayweather Jr. if he hit him with his weird barrage angle shot. I'm sure he can drop bombs to Mayweather Jr. . If Zub Judah can... Pacquiao can do it too. Pacquiao is better than Zab.
I hope Mayweather run and use the ring to win. :rolleyes: There is no way Mayweather will trade punches against the Pacman. Pacquiao can take punches. :-X Floyd hasn't fought a true welterweight since Baldomir over 3 years ago.
judah also has a 5 inch reach advantage over pacman. The same reach advantage floyd will have over pacman which he will use to his advantage. Pac will be off balance trying to hit floyd if floyd moves. If floyd sits in the pocket then it will be a long night for floyd.
I think Pac will have his moments, but Floyd will put on a masterclass and win BY UD
He hasn't got a chance in a million of beating Pacman. But he has no choice but to box him, because he needs the money. And once they box and Pacman destroys this overated fool it will be the end of the road for floyd.
I think Mayweather will KO Pac. When Pac gets tagged and goes Macho Floyd will step back and counter and those shots will have Pacs momentum in them as well as Floyds accuracy and class. Not saying he will starch him but Roach may pull him out or the ref may stop the fight. My money will be on PBF to win by KO, I have been thinking it for ages now and nothing is going to change my mind.
Also someone said Floyd hasn't fought a genuine WW since Baldomir? Well no but he has been up and won the WBC 154 title off Oscar in Oscar's comfort zone and he fought the UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton and KO'd him and then in his last fight he beat a man who drew with Pac (which was fair) and then beat Pac (and was robbed), with total ease. In fact when Marquez did land on Floyd he stepped it up and decked him just to let him know he could. Pacquiao never had that kind of control over JMM even in the first round of the first fight when JMM was caught cold!
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Originally Posted by IntazzzYes. Not much. But base on quality opponents Pacquiao KO is better than Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHMayweather's KO percentage isn't that much lower than Pacquiao's...Quote:
Originally Posted by Intazzz
In Last 10 fights.
Pacquiao was 10-0 (7KO)
Miguel Angel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
David Diaz
Jorge Solis
Erik Morales (2x)
Mayweather was 10-0 (5KO)
Ricky Hatton
Sharmba Mitchell
Arturo Gatti
Henry Bruseles
Phillip N'dou
here lies the problem with ko and tko etc. false stats.
Another genius post from SEANIE. PBF cannot lose now you've backed Pac ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SEANIE
Overated fool lol. They are on about Floyd Mayweather Jnr you know, not senior!Quote:
Originally Posted by SEANIE
I know the answer to this one:
The promoters!
They will be raking it in for getting this fight made.
I'll make no predictions until the weight they'll fight at is announced.
All hinges on that imo;)
I can see bullshit politics stopping this one even happening in afraid.
Neither will fight at a financial loss and both will want a bigger slice than the other (it's started already with Roach wanting the bigger cut 60/40)
Then theres the weight issue.
Hope i'm wrong but theres so many factors that could stop this happening.
Hope i'm wrong but just get a feeling this will be an absolute bstard to promote and organise and if it does happen i think it'll take an age to come to a fair agreement that suits both parties.
Your gonna have the Mayweather family making silly demands etc etc etc.
Don't forget Boxing is a Business as much as it is a sport.
I'm with with smash, I'll wait till all negotiations are made but I do honestly think Pac has the tools and Freddie has the gameplan to pull it off.
If Zab can land on Floyd using his handspeed I'm certain pac can and Manny has the footspeed to get out again if he has to.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Spot on mate:cool:
To be honest i don't even give Pac any real chance and don't see how he wins this... Floyd will just wrap him up and pic him off.
He ain't gonna stand and fight Pac blow for blow and is such a clever defensive fighter.
All the advantages are with Floyd 100 percent.
If you dont believe manny cant at the very worst match judah you really arent paying too much attention are youQuote:
Originally Posted by Pacdbest2Where you get your measurement??? Pac has the Longer arm than Judah!!! Judah's a B fighter. Pac's an A+ fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by Intazzz
judah also has a 5 inch reach advantage over pacman. The same reach advantage floyd will have over pacman which he will use to his advantage. Pac will be off balance trying to hit floyd if floyd moves. If floyd sits in the pocket then it will be a long night for floyd.
My prediction of this fight changes every time one of them puts in a spectacular performance
This is the defining question of boxing for this decade. Can manny pacquiao deal with floyds awkward nature and can floyd deal with the speed and power pac posseses.
Ive now completely role reversed and have got manny troubling floyd early on leading to mayweather going on a merry stroll and losing to a decision after 12rounds which he will bitch about like no tommorow.
The manny pac that fights floyd mayweather will be faster, stronger and more in tune with how to fight a counter puncher than we have ever seen before. The moment he lands big on floyd which he eventually will mayweathers gonna want no part of trying to trade with pacman
Yes but a 154lbs ODLH landed on Floyd and to be honest at the time I thought if he did FDloyd would go, I was wrong Floyd can take a punch we just don't see it much. Floyd will have way too much for Manny. I will bet my name or my rep on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerIf you dont believe manny cant at the very worst match judah you really arent paying too much attention are youQuote:
Originally Posted by Pacdbest2Where you get your measurement??? Pac has the Longer arm than Judah!!! Judah's a B fighter. Pac's an A+ fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
My prediction of this fight changes every time one of them puts in a spectacular performance
This is the defining question of boxing for this decade. Can manny pacquiao deal with floyds awkward nature and can floyd deal with the speed and power pac posseses.
Ive now completely role reversed and have got manny troubling floyd early on leading to mayweather going on a merry stroll and losing to a decision after 12rounds which he will bitch about like no tommorow.
The manny pac that fights floyd mayweather will be faster, stronger and more in tune with how to fight a counter puncher than we have ever seen before. The moment he lands big on floyd which he eventually will mayweathers gonna want no part of trying to trade with pacman
A 147 pacquiao throws far more accurate, harder and higher volume than ODLH at 154 could ever dream aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuYes but a 154lbs ODLH landed on Floyd and to be honest at the time I thought if he did FDloyd would go, I was wrong Floyd can take a punch we just don't see it much. Floyd will have way too much for Manny. I will bet my name or my rep on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerIf you dont believe manny cant at the very worst match judah you really arent paying too much attention are youQuote:
Originally Posted by Pacdbest2
My prediction of this fight changes every time one of them puts in a spectacular performance
This is the defining question of boxing for this decade. Can manny pacquiao deal with floyds awkward nature and can floyd deal with the speed and power pac posseses.
Ive now completely role reversed and have got manny troubling floyd early on leading to mayweather going on a merry stroll and losing to a decision after 12rounds which he will bitch about like no tommorow.
The manny pac that fights floyd mayweather will be faster, stronger and more in tune with how to fight a counter puncher than we have ever seen before. The moment he lands big on floyd which he eventually will mayweathers gonna want no part of trying to trade with pacman
Lets be honest here oscar in his last 2 fights was a sitting duck waiting to be hit. When he did throw it was pre-planned flurried attacks and floyd was more than aware of what was coming each and every time.
Against pacquiao he`ll have to deal with that threat not 2-3times in a round but for the entire 3minutes. If you honestly think for the 1st time in pacs career he wont land clean, hard accurate punches and follow them up with equally as damaging shots then your right in believing floyd will get the job done.
I dont see it, pac will land-floyd will run - that`ll be the ultimate factor for this fight!
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Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Spot on mate:cool:
To be honest i don't even give Pac any real chance and don't see how he wins this... Floyd will just wrap him up and pic him off.
He ain't gonna stand and fight Pac blow for blow and is such a clever defensive fighter.
All the advantages are with Floyd 100 percent.
Thats a bold statement bud ! Ya dont give Pac a chance :confused:
He's the P4P No1 and recently destroyed 3 highly regarded fighters. Styles do make fights and can determine how the fight pans out. Lets not forget many gave Pac little chance against Cotto because of the weight, now it's because he wont be able to handle Floyds style. Rubbish ! He's P4P No1 for a reason, he figures boxers out and executes his gameplan perfectly.
For me Pac is a different fighter to the one that faced Marquez, he's shown he can evolve and get better with each fight.
Pac wins this one :cool:
The Pac vs Sasakul fight is one fight that comes to mind in view of a forthcoming fight with PBF, an ultimate boxer against the raw fury of Pacquiao.
Not to say that the unbeaten Thai champ is by any means a PBF. PBF is PBF, and the rest... is not. LOL.
However, factor that at the day and time of the fight, when Manny's flaws through inexperinece was at its most apparent contrasting with the brilliance to that of the title-holder, will give us a picture of how frustrating a fight it was for Pac, and so consequently, a small window to how this much anticipated mega-fight may play out.
In that fight, Sasakul was giving Manny a severe thrashing. A boxing lesson, one might easily conclude. The disparity between the two protagonists in ring generalship was glaring. Pacquiao's frustration at his own ineptness was as clear as that day was sunny.
The pot-shotting is A-1 in quality with dashing footwork to boot. Pacquiao found himself pulling on his pants a lot more than making the sign of the cross. An indication that quit is still quite remotely far from his thoughts, but an alarming level of frustration at his inabilty to land leather is creeping in.
The Thai, unbeaten in 36 or so fights, and was considered as his country's national treasure, could not however, find a way to make the neophyte from GenSan, to finally mentally give up and quit the fight.
Why? Cause he cannot hurt him. Sasakul did not possess the power to short circuit the brain of the young man wired by nature for that of a beast.
Pac Ko'ed him in seven! If anyone would care to watch it, you'd see how a boxer with boxing skill at its finest betrayed by the lack of sufficient KO power. Sheer fury!
Pacquiao over Mayweather, lucky nine!
I think its crazy people think Pacquiao will stop Mayweather he has never been down apart from the time he touched down when he hurt his hand Pacquiao couldn't even stop Cotto the ref robbed Cotto of finishing the fight. Only one winner in this fight and he goes by the name of Floyd Joy Mayweather Jr
I think Cotto's corner should have thrown in the towel 2 or 3 rounds earlier.
Mayweather and Pac are in a class all their own. I think Pac has the edge because of his combinations. Pac by UD.
Bollocks, I agree the timing of the stoppage was poor as Cotto likely could have finished the fight, but it might as well have ended in the 8th or 9th as Cotto wasn't trying to win & I certainly wouldn't have blamed Bayless for ending it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tysonbruno
WTf are you reading? No one said anything about Judah being better than PAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerIf you dont believe manny cant at the very worst match judah you really arent paying too much attention are youQuote:
Originally Posted by Pacdbest2Where you get your measurement??? Pac has the Longer arm than Judah!!! Judah's a B fighter. Pac's an A+ fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
My prediction of this fight changes every time one of them puts in a spectacular performance
This is the defining question of boxing for this decade. Can manny pacquiao deal with floyds awkward nature and can floyd deal with the speed and power pac posseses.
Ive now completely role reversed and have got manny troubling floyd early on leading to mayweather going on a merry stroll and losing to a decision after 12rounds which he will bitch about like no tommorow.
The manny pac that fights floyd mayweather will be faster, stronger and more in tune with how to fight a counter puncher than we have ever seen before. The moment he lands big on floyd which he eventually will mayweathers gonna want no part of trying to trade with pacman
Judah is very quick, in fact baldomir said he's faster than Floyd. THAT PLUS HIS REACH is why he was able to land. PAC'S ARMS are 5 inches shorter than both PBF and JUDAH. And Floyd will undoubtedly exploit this by staying away from him.
It's also funny that people only point to who gave floyd problems yet they still loss as logic to determine this fight. It's seems that using that logic doesn't work as he's still undefeated. But flip it around and say "hey didn't floyd just shutout the guy that arguably beat pac twice?...If morrales can outbox pac certainly floyd can"
It's just funny people don't do it both ways.
If FLoyd stays outside, he wins easily. If he sits in the shell he will lose.
Imo Cotto's punch is much stronger than Floyd's, Floyd has brittle hands. We all know that not only Pac can carry his speed and power at welter, but he now can also take a punch like nothin from a very sturdy welter.
The question is. Will Floyd survive Pac's onslaught for 12 rounds?
I think Pac KOs Floyd with a left uppercut.
Shane Mosley thinks Pac could very well knock Mayweather out(article written by Ben Thompson).
I think it is a 50/50 fight, hard to count Pac out.
Pac would be a facing a bigger, slicker and much faster counter-puncher than Marquez (who most hardcore fans believe he lost to, twice).
Manny can't beat Floyd. I don't even need to see this fight.
Common If you see the Hatton vs. Floyd fight Hatton even mauls some rounds on Floyd. which reality Pacquiao a bit reach advantage over Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBranMan
If Pac hits one best shots on Floyd it could change the pace and Pacquiao has the speed accuracy and Pac really hits hard.
I dunno why people here has given a Hatton a 50-50 or even much higher percentage prior to Hatton vs. Floyd and PAC over Floyd a complete shut out???
Oh btw i will post some interviews with Zab Judah..both he fought Cotto and Floyd...and Zab is giving a really good chance even by K.O in favor of Pacquiao.
When it comes to making silly demands, Freddy Roach beats everybody :).Quote:
Your gonna have the Mayweather family making silly demands etc etc etc
Agreed. The fight was stopped 3 or 4 rounds too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinBollocks, I agree the timing of the stoppage was poor as Cotto likely could have finished the fight, but it might as well have ended in the 8th or 9th as Cotto wasn't trying to win & I certainly wouldn't have blamed Bayless for ending it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tysonbruno