So since Kessler isn't #1 anymore, who should be the #1 in the division?
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So since Kessler isn't #1 anymore, who should be the #1 in the division?
Beat the man to be the man : Andre Ward
man I just realized how shitty the talent in this division is. Its elite are all extremely flawed fighters.
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Originally Posted by iwng100
Agreed.
however the poster above me is wrong. There is alot of talent in the divsion . But when two elite fighters fight each other, theres got to be a winner and a loser
Ward
Dirrell
Froch
Kessler
Bute
Abraham
S.Bika
Green
Miranda
Taylor
Stieglitz
Andrade
Take a look at the roster of fighters in the division.
I think the supermiddleweight division is the strongest in boxing, some great talents in there.
Calzaghe chose the wrong time to retire imo, or the right depending on how high you rate him ;)
Ward has to be regarded as number 1 right now, he beat the man as has been said, and didn't just beat him but beat him up.
For me that's the performance of 2009 so far. For an untested 25 year old with only 20 fights to completely dominate one of the most respected fighters in boxing is a great performance.
Artur Abraham set the bar for the Super Six for Andre Ward has just risen by a couple of feet, a brilliant win and he has to be the favourite for the whole thing now.
i still have Abraham as the favorite. But Ward is a close second
I felt that Ward and Kessler were the 2 best fighters with Abraham having a shot to beat either. I accidentally voted Abraham but I do think Ward is the best, and top, fighter in the division.
Hmm, I won’t put Dirrell in second place yet, maybe he has the tools to be up there but it’s just too soon, even if you think he beat Froch he can’t be placed higher than Bute or Kessler IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645Quote:
Originally Posted by iwng100
Agreed.
however the poster above me is wrong. There is alot of talent in the divsion . But when two elite fighters fight each other, theres got to be a winner and a loser
Ward
Dirrell
Froch
Kessler
Bute
Abraham
S.Bika
Green
Miranda
Taylor
Stieglitz
Andrade
Take a look at the roster of fighters in the division.
I also would place Stieglitz higher than Green.
ohh , i didnt rank the guys, its just a list with fighters in no specific order ;)
I picked Abrahams before this started , and i havent seen anything to change my mind.
The topic is 'who should be ranked number one'.
Not who is going to win the super 6.
or even 'who is best?'.
Abraham can't be number one ranked supermiddle after one fight in which he beat Jermain Taylor.
Only plausible answers as to who should be RANKED 1 are Ward or Froch.
Remember its a different question to 'who will win super6?' or 'who is the BEST supermiddle?'.
I voted Froch then read your post. Agreed, 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by iwng100
are you talking about the division or the super 6? cause there is no way abraham is #1 of the entire division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Going on results, shouldnt Bute be number One now?
He is established, beaten a few know quantaties, unless he loses the rematch with Andrade then he should be number One.
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Originally Posted by ross
Who? Andrade and Zuniga? I guess you can add Bika but honestly most of these guys would beat Bika except maybe Froch ;D
I'm not sold at all on Bute. I'd say Ward has become the guy to beat in the division, and he has the WBA belt which has to mean something.
So we wont be able to see WardvsAbraham??? in the tournament?
Ward and Abraham won't fight in the group stages but if they both advance in the tournament, they will at some point face each other.
I went with Ward, like others have said beat the man to be the man
Ward, the only other one I can possibly see might be Bute, but for the beating Ward put on Kessler it's got to be him.
How the hell does ward jump from 8 to 1 in the space of one fight???
1-Froch
2-Kessler
3-Bute
4-Abraham
5-Ward
WTF :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
how do you have Abraham ahead of Ward when he just beat Taylor when Ward beat Kessler who was #1 at 168. and you still have Kessler ahead of Ward. are you serious?
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