I am not asking if you think he will become an elite but if you want him to.
The reason I ask is there seem a lot of people who are just hopping he fails.
Sad really,but very British at the same time.
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I am not asking if you think he will become an elite but if you want him to.
The reason I ask is there seem a lot of people who are just hopping he fails.
Sad really,but very British at the same time.
NO! Really, what did you expect?
Me. I still don't get why people hate him. He's made a few silly comments over-rating his own ability but i've yet to see a fighter who doesn't talk up his own ability.
Ok he can't drive. Other than that, generally speaking, he speaks well, he's pretty exciting to watch, he's got very good ability.
I don't get it really. Carl froch, Joe Calzaghe and David Haye are far more arrogant, yet neither of them get booed and jeered on their way to the ring.
I wonder why?
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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Why not?
Missy's behaviour is rational because MAB is a bit of a hero to her, although i don't think she liked Khan too much beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Why not?
Because none of them turned PRO as a guaranteed millionaire in the spotlight. Simple as. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I ALWAYS want's Brit's to succeed!!
Except for that deluded arrogant prick Fraudley Harrison
We have already seen him fail but he is still very young.
BTW, I had no idea he was moving to MMA
Elite Fighting Championship - Elite Fighter Rankings
:o
Would I like to see him on an elite level? What do you mean by elite?
But what ever.. I don't mind seeing him on the elite level.
Chin is still a main concern. Hearns had a suspect and sometimes guilty chin and he became an elite. Hope to see Khan step it up soon if he is allowed. Right now they have him on training wheels ;D
Because none of them won a medal at the Olympics at the age of 17. A massive achievement when you consider he was the only British fighter there. Some things deserve recognition.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterBecause none of them turned PRO as a guaranteed millionaire in the spotlight. Simple as. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Did anyone boo Oscar De La Hoya or Ray Leonard?Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterBecause none of them turned PRO as a guaranteed millionaire in the spotlight. Simple as. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I don't think thats a good enough reason to hate someone and hope they don't succeed.
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Originally Posted by ***********
I just want to try and gage the the feelings for Khan on this site.
To me it seems natural to want your country men to do well in there sport but it seems with Khan people want to watch him fail.
Quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoMissy's behaviour is rational because MAB is a bit of a hero to her, although i don't think she liked Khan too much beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Why not?
Disliked him before, it's worse now.
That's the thing. I'm not tribal so I prefer to support people I like for any number of reasons and not because I was born in the same country as them, to me that isn't rational.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by ***********
I just want to try and gage the the feelings for Khan on this site.
To me it seems natural to want your country men to do well in there sport but it seems with Khan people want to watch him fail.
What young rich sportsperson is universally loved? Khan's support FAR outweighs the hate. He wouldn't sell 8,000 tickets otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause none of them won a medal at the Olympics at the age of 17. A massive achievement when you consider he was the only British fighter there. Some things deserve recognition.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterBecause none of them turned PRO as a guaranteed millionaire in the spotlight. Simple as. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Gold medal winners
Audley = hated.
DeGale = booed on debut for fucks sake.
If they turned pro under the radar no-one would see them until they get near championship level. The spotlight from day one is the only real reason Khan has haters. Like all famous fighters have.
They weren't given the hype job that Khan was from day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Check the threads plenty of people hate those three, stop with the wonder why comments because no doubt people will be looking to blame it on racism.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat young rich sportsperson is universally loved? Khan's support FAR outweighs the hate. He wouldn't sell 8,000 tickets otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause none of them won a medal at the Olympics at the age of 17. A massive achievement when you consider he was the only British fighter there. Some things deserve recognition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Gold medal winners
Audley = hated.
DeGale = booed on debut for fucks sake.
If they turned pro under the radar no-one would see them until they get near championship level. The spotlight from day one is the only real reason Khan has haters. Like all famous fighters have.
That's not support. He might be a ticket seller but that's different from having 'supporters'. The chorus of boos when he makes his way to the ring suggests there's an awful lot of fans paying to see him get ko'ed. Nobody is asking for him to be universally loved. It would just be nice to see an arena packed with fans who want him to do well.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat young rich sportsperson is universally loved? Khan's support FAR outweighs the hate. He wouldn't sell 8,000 tickets otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause none of them won a medal at the Olympics at the age of 17. A massive achievement when you consider he was the only British fighter there. Some things deserve recognition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Gold medal winners
Audley = hated.
DeGale = booed on debut for fucks sake.
If they turned pro under the radar no-one would see them until they get near championship level. The spotlight from day one is the only real reason Khan has haters. Like all famous fighters have.
mark my words, If Kahn gets the big fights in vegas, you will once again see thousands of brits invading the place..
Best supporters in the world.!!
People will warm to him, its not his fault he was so good that he won an olympic medal at 17, we should be proud of him...
Some people want to get a grip..
That happened at the Barrera fight. Barrera being a legend naturally brought out a ton of Brit boxing fans to see HIM.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoThat's not support. He might be a ticket seller but that's different from having 'supporters'. The chorus of boos when he makes his way to the ring suggests there's an awful lot of fans paying to see him get ko'ed. Nobody is asking for him to be universally loved. It would just be nice to see an arena packed with fans who want him to do well.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat young rich sportsperson is universally loved? Khan's support FAR outweighs the hate. He wouldn't sell 8,000 tickets otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Gold medal winners
Audley = hated.
DeGale = booed on debut for fucks sake.
If they turned pro under the radar no-one would see them until they get near championship level. The spotlight from day one is the only real reason Khan has haters. Like all famous fighters have.
Apart from that, the small number of boos for Khan are completely drowned out by the cheering for him. Haters don't even buy his PPV's let alone go to see him live.
Prescott fight. Tell me where the boos are here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwqN9...eature=related
Listen to this against Barrera. You saying Khan doesn't have supporters?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMkJK...eature=related
Another one from a phone camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNsgU...eature=related
Khan support pisses all over the boo boys. ;)
Khan is a strange fighter for me. I've known who he was before I knew who Pac was because I began following amatuer boxing, and I was always very impressed with his speed and mobility. Still am. But for some reason when he hits KD'd...it makes me laugh. Not even sure why. I think it is in the way he hits the canvas. Like, so fast it defies the laws of gravity.
So ya I'm rooting for him to become elite as he is fun to watch. But also, if he gets KTFO in the process I'll prob. catch myself giggling.
I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Taken from Sky Sports website:
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some as he made his way into the ring. Barrera meanwhile was cheered to the rafters as Manchester became Mexico for one night only. But it didn't last. As much as the Manchester fight fans love a legend, they also love a fighter who is good and game. And the boy from Bolton was both.
The Last Word: Racist fans and bitter spats as love is floored - Others, More Sports - The Independent
He was also booed at the Prescott fight and he also loudly booed at the Pacquiao - Hatton weigh-in, by british fans.
By the way, i'm not saying he is without support, he clearly isn't. But i wouldn't go as far as saying his support pisses all over the boo-boys.
That's because they didn't win a medal at the Olympics at the age of 17.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyThey weren't given the hype job that Khan was from day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Check the threads plenty of people hate those three, stop with the wonder why comments because no doubt people will be looking to blame it on racism.
The 'wonder why' comment wasn't referencing racism. But since you've brought it up, i have to say i find it odd that people, just because they're not racists themselves, can completely dismiss racism as being a factor for his apparent dislike.
I can in pretty good confidence say that from my experience it is a factor. I've watched a fair few Khan fights in Public Venues, where the racism has been quite disgusting. To the point where it's pointless going out into town to watch a Khan fight.
Are you kidding? You'd rather take the word from some report than use your own ears?Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Taken from Sky Sports website:
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some as he made his way into the ring. Barrera meanwhile was cheered to the rafters as Manchester became Mexico for one night only. But it didn't last. As much as the Manchester fight fans love a legend, they also love a fighter who is good and game. And the boy from Bolton was both.
The Last Word: Racist fans and bitter spats as love is floored - Others, More Sports - The Independent
He was also booed at the Prescott fight and he also loudly booed at the Pacquiao - Hatton weigh-in, by british fans.
By the way, i'm not saying he is without support, he clearly isn't. But i wouldn't go as far as saying his support pisses all over the boo-boys.
Listen to the last link i posted. That's the Prescott fight from the crowds perspective. Where are the boos?
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some. Exactly, SOME.
For your argument to mean anything it would need to be about 50/50. It's more like 95-5 in favour of Khan.
And as for the Hatton weigh-in, Mosley and Marquez were booed too (Jaz was there), because they were pissed-up Brit yobbo football fans not proper boxing fans.
Yeah. we're all jealous because we didn't win a medal.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoThat's because they didn't win a medal at the Olympics at the age of 17.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyThey weren't given the hype job that Khan was from day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Check the threads plenty of people hate those three, stop with the wonder why comments because no doubt people will be looking to blame it on racism.
The 'wonder why' comment wasn't referencing racism. But since you've brought it up, i have to say i find it odd that people, just because they're not racists themselves, can completely dismiss racism as being a factor for his apparent dislike.
I can in pretty good confidence say that from my experience it is a factor. I've watched a fair few Khan fights in Public Venues, where the racism has been quite disgusting. To the point where it's pointless going out into town to watch a Khan fight.
The reference to 'wonder why' is because the same topic comes up everytime he fights.
I've also been to Khan fights and the racism has come from both sides.
or indeed someone in the arena like myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAre you kidding? You'd rather take the word from some report than use your own ears?Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Taken from Sky Sports website:
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some as he made his way into the ring. Barrera meanwhile was cheered to the rafters as Manchester became Mexico for one night only. But it didn't last. As much as the Manchester fight fans love a legend, they also love a fighter who is good and game. And the boy from Bolton was both.
The Last Word: Racist fans and bitter spats as love is floored - Others, More Sports - The Independent
He was also booed at the Prescott fight and he also loudly booed at the Pacquiao - Hatton weigh-in, by british fans.
By the way, i'm not saying he is without support, he clearly isn't. But i wouldn't go as far as saying his support pisses all over the boo-boys.
Listen to the last link i posted. That's the Prescott fight from the crowds perspective. Where are the boos?
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some. Exactly, SOME.
For your argument to mean anything it would need to be about 50/50. It's more like 95-5 in favour of Khan.
And as for the Hatton weigh-in, Mosley and Marquez were booed too (Jaz was there), because they were pissed-up Brit yobbo football fans not proper boxing fans.
Big time yes. I just want to see Missy and Miles grow more and more obsessed as the years go by. I don't really care if he does well in and of it itself.
Right, and obviously your boos were not because you were supporting Barrera but because you don't like "paki's" :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyor indeed someone in the arena like myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAre you kidding? You'd rather take the word from some report than use your own ears?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Listen to the last link i posted. That's the Prescott fight from the crowds perspective. Where are the boos?
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some. Exactly, SOME.
For your argument to mean anything it would need to be about 50/50. It's more like 95-5 in favour of Khan.
And as for the Hatton weigh-in, Mosley and Marquez were booed too (Jaz was there), because they were pissed-up Brit yobbo football fans not proper boxing fans.
I've yet to go to a Boxing venue where the majority aren't pissed up football fans so i'm not sure what that's got to do with anything. Plus if we're using your brit yobbo footballing fans terminology, it's understandable that Marquez and Mosley got booed because they aren't English. Khan is.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAre you kidding? You'd rather take the word from some report than use your own ears?Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Taken from Sky Sports website:
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some as he made his way into the ring. Barrera meanwhile was cheered to the rafters as Manchester became Mexico for one night only. But it didn't last. As much as the Manchester fight fans love a legend, they also love a fighter who is good and game. And the boy from Bolton was both.
The Last Word: Racist fans and bitter spats as love is floored - Others, More Sports - The Independent
He was also booed at the Prescott fight and he also loudly booed at the Pacquiao - Hatton weigh-in, by british fans.
By the way, i'm not saying he is without support, he clearly isn't. But i wouldn't go as far as saying his support pisses all over the boo-boys.
Listen to the last link i posted. That's the Prescott fight from the crowds perspective. Where are the boos?
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some. Exactly, SOME.
For your argument to mean anything it would need to be about 50/50. It's more like 95-5 in favour of Khan.
And as for the Hatton weigh-in, Mosley and Marquez were booed too (Jaz was there), because they were pissed-up Brit yobbo football fans not proper boxing fans.
I've never said that he has any irrational hate on this board, but i'd imagine this board or the opinion of similar boxing forums probably represent around 10% if that, of an attending crowd.
I wouldn't rather take some report than use my own ears. I've heard for myself mate. I know i'm not the only one who's heard it. It's also something that's been mentioned a fair few times in Boxing News (fight reports). Hell, reading Youtube comments will give you a decent idea.
*awaits Fenster's handpicked youtube comments* :p
Sorry mate, it's going to take more than a couple of handheld youtube videos to convince me that the support for Khan far outweighs the distain for him.
That's sort of my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyYeah. we're all jealous because we didn't win a medal.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoThat's because they didn't win a medal at the Olympics at the age of 17.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
The 'wonder why' comment wasn't referencing racism. But since you've brought it up, i have to say i find it odd that people, just because they're not racists themselves, can completely dismiss racism as being a factor for his apparent dislike.
I can in pretty good confidence say that from my experience it is a factor. I've watched a fair few Khan fights in Public Venues, where the racism has been quite disgusting. To the point where it's pointless going out into town to watch a Khan fight.
The reference to 'wonder why' is because the same topic comes up everytime he fights.
I've also been to Khan fights and the racism has come from both sides.
Unreal.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI've yet to go to a Boxing venue where the majority aren't pissed up football fans so i'm not sure what that's got to do with anything. Plus if we're using your brit yobbo footballing fans terminology, it's understandable that Marquez and Mosley got booed because they aren't English. Khan is.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAre you kidding? You'd rather take the word from some report than use your own ears?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Listen to the last link i posted. That's the Prescott fight from the crowds perspective. Where are the boos?
Bizarrely Khan seemed to be booed by some. Exactly, SOME.
For your argument to mean anything it would need to be about 50/50. It's more like 95-5 in favour of Khan.
And as for the Hatton weigh-in, Mosley and Marquez were booed too (Jaz was there), because they were pissed-up Brit yobbo football fans not proper boxing fans.
I've never said that he has any irrational hate on this board, but i'd imagine this board or the opinion of similar boxing forums probably represent around 10% if that, of an attending crowd.
I wouldn't rather take some report than use my own ears. I've heard for myself mate. I know i'm not the only one who's heard it. It's also something that's been mentioned a fair few times in Boxing News (fight reports). Hell, reading Youtube comments will give you a decent idea.
*awaits Fenster's handpicked youtube comments* :p
Sorry mate, it's going to take more than a couple of handheld youtube videos to convince me that the support for Khan far outweighs the distain for him.
When other fighters get booed is that racism too?
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Originally Posted by FensterUnreal.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI've yet to go to a Boxing venue where the majority aren't pissed up football fans so i'm not sure what that's got to do with anything. Plus if we're using your brit yobbo footballing fans terminology, it's understandable that Marquez and Mosley got booed because they aren't English. Khan is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I've never said that he has any irrational hate on this board, but i'd imagine this board or the opinion of similar boxing forums probably represent around 10% if that, of an attending crowd.
I wouldn't rather take some report than use my own ears. I've heard for myself mate. I know i'm not the only one who's heard it. It's also something that's been mentioned a fair few times in Boxing News (fight reports). Hell, reading Youtube comments will give you a decent idea.
*awaits Fenster's handpicked youtube comments* :p
Sorry mate, it's going to take more than a couple of handheld youtube videos to convince me that the support for Khan far outweighs the distain for him.
When other fighters get booed is that racism too?
Hate to say it fenst but the amount of times i used to here fellas in a pub hoping hamed/khan would get beat and then follow it up with its because of their race :(
Where black fighters are concerned we are way past that. Bruno and been were beloved in this country.
But khan still endlessly raises the is he british 1st or muslim 1st? A lot of his travelling fans are from the pakistani/british community and do tend to chant "pakistan" quite a lot.
Retarded argument i know. Amir doesnt strike me as either arrogant or unpatriotic and while he lacks the charisma to become a household hero just like calzaghe, we should still be fully behind one of our boys reaching his true potential
What's the point of this poll? I mean he will fight on or he won't. He will win or he won't. I don't think we have that much control over whether or not he will become great. I mean we could demand he fight someone notable and vow to pay to see it... But other than that it's up to all the promoters, right?
IMO he will become great when he is faced with adversity and overcomes.. Right now he doesn't want to face unsurmountable adversity, and that's ok bc he is 22 yrs old.
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Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterUnreal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
When other fighters get booed is that racism too?
Hate to say it fenst but the amount of times i used to here fellas in a pub hoping hamed/khan would get beat and then follow it up with its because of their race :(
Where black fighters are concerned we are way past that. Bruno and been were beloved in this country.
But khan still endlessly raises the is he british 1st or muslim 1st? A lot of his travelling fans are from the pakistani/british community and do tend to chant "pakistan" quite a lot.
Retarded argument i know. Amir doesnt strike me as either arrogant or unpatriotic and while he lacks the charisma to become a household hero just like calzaghe, we should still be fully behind one of our boys reaching his true potential
I'm not surprised considering you hang around with BNP supporters. ;)
From a boxing perspective the racist hate for Khan comes from a small minority. That's my point. Whether Khan was a boxer or not ignorant racists would still hate him. That SHOULD NOT be confused with boxing fans that don't like him for a particular reason.
Once again - ALL famous successful fighters have both lovers and haters.
Wow slow down. I never said the people who boo him are racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterUnreal.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI've yet to go to a Boxing venue where the majority aren't pissed up football fans so i'm not sure what that's got to do with anything. Plus if we're using your brit yobbo footballing fans terminology, it's understandable that Marquez and Mosley got booed because they aren't English. Khan is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I've never said that he has any irrational hate on this board, but i'd imagine this board or the opinion of similar boxing forums probably represent around 10% if that, of an attending crowd.
I wouldn't rather take some report than use my own ears. I've heard for myself mate. I know i'm not the only one who's heard it. It's also something that's been mentioned a fair few times in Boxing News (fight reports). Hell, reading Youtube comments will give you a decent idea.
*awaits Fenster's handpicked youtube comments* :p
Sorry mate, it's going to take more than a couple of handheld youtube videos to convince me that the support for Khan far outweighs the distain for him.
When other fighters get booed is that racism too?
I said that from experience i believed racism was a factor in some peoples judgement. And i stand by that statement, because it's something that i've witnessed....on several occassions unfortunately.
forgot the don't give a shit option
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
But if his name was Alejandro Mortez you`d currently be cumming over your screen watching him on youtube!!
I understand what you're saying.. but it's pretty obvious SOME peoples hate for Khan is due to racism. I think this argument is lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoWow slow down. I never said the people who boo him are racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterUnreal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
When other fighters get booed is that racism too?
I said that from experience i believed racism was a factor in some peoples judgement. And i stand by that statement, because it's something that i've witnessed....on several occassions unfortunately.
From a boxing perspective the racist hate for Khan comes from a small minority. That shouldn't be confused with genuine boxing fans booing him because they dislike a particular thing about him - style, attitude, image, way he's promoted, rooting for his opponent etc.
Again.. All famous fighters get haters. ;)
depends how good looking he is ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
But if his name was Alejandro Mortez you`d currently be cumming over your screen watching him on youtube!!
yea cause i always favor latino fighters :rolleyes:, don't mix me up with you, i'm not blindsided by patriotism ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
But if his name was Alejandro Mortez you`d currently be cumming over your screen watching him on youtube!!