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"March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
Pacquiao-Mayweather: March 13 or Bust Says Bob Arum - Boxing News
Arum said "you can make an argument that because he is running for office Manny can't fight on May 1st but you can't logically with a straight face make an argument for March 13"
WOW! Even Arum saying there is no excuse for Pacquiao not to take the fight in March. This isn't looking good for Pacquiao right now.
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
"That's why Mayweather has been reluctant to do this fight."
-Arum
Don't get that statement, Mayweather is already signed right? Arum is in Manila trying to get Pac on-board right?
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^Yup. Mayweather's name is already on the contract. He's on board. Arum just needs to belittle Floyd somehow. Now Arum has to convince Pacquiao to fight the guy. How weird is that? The #1 P4P fighter needs convincing to fight.
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
Mayweather has only agreed to the terms, but hasn't put any signature to paper.
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fan johnny
Mayweather has only agreed to the terms, but hasn't put any signature to paper.
Grasping at straws there, aint we?
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
Who would of thought it.. Mayweather being the most negotiable and Pac Man being the one stalling the negotiations. Still plenty of time though.. but I don't see this deal being signed by Jan.
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fan johnny
Mayweather has only agreed to the terms, but hasn't put any signature to paper.
Exactley. Mayweather gave a proposal who knows what the hell it says. A 80/20 split in favor of Mayweather, to fight with ten ounce gloves and a 30 foot ring. Who the hell knows what the terms are. I believe if it is decent Manny will take it.
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How is Pacman stalling??? Mayweather has agreed to the terms and Arum is flying to visit Pacman. Has Manny turned down the fight?
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The Fightfan
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Originally Posted by
fan johnny
Mayweather has only agreed to the terms, but hasn't put any signature to paper.
Exactley. Mayweather gave a proposal who knows what the hell it says. A 80/20 split in favor of Mayweather, to fight with ten ounce gloves and a 30 foot ring. Who the hell knows what the terms are. I believe if it is decent Manny will take it.
LOL! Awesome. ;D I totally agree. That sounds like Mayweather terms too.
He is a crafty dude, though. He knows that as many people watch his fights to see him loss as to see him win, if not more. He doesn't care whether he's the good guy or the bad guy.
Mayweather's terms are ridiculous most of the time. Hell, he might say he wants the fight at 154 for all we know. ;D
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
Mayweather agrees to fight Pacquiao, but under what terms?
Well, a lot have been said about Floyd Mayweather Jr. allegedly agreeing to fight Manny Pacquiao but ironically, nobody is reporting the terms of what "Money" agreed to.
Bob Arum is reportedly on his way to hand deliver the paper work for the Filipino Icon to sign-on to. I see red flags everywhere.
Not to be Mr. Thunder Cloud on this parade but the last time I checked, Mayweather and Arum did not see eye-to-eye. For them to almost instantly agree on something is quite mind-boggling unless of course it's quite the favorable deal for Money May.
Secondly, for Arum to personally fly to the Philippines to sell this contract to Manny to me seems well, like there's a lot of selling needed to be done. Something just sounds off to me. Perhaps they want to catch Pacquiao off guard and put a gun to his head and agree to the fight the world wants to see. Also, Arum might want to personally discuss contingency plans already with Manny knowing the contract at hand might not really stick.
And there's the rumors that Mayweather has been training already for a fight in Britain. This could easily be a bluff to put the pressure on Pacquiao so he can say "Well, I agreed to fight PAcquiao but he didn't want to so I'm moving on to fight someone else." Like I stated, nothing has been disclosed on the terms of the contract Mayweather agreed to. This may very well just be an initial offer and a long winding negotiations process is likely to follow, but with the move, Mayweather strategically put the pressure on Pacquiao and again got him some publicity that he can use for a possible fight in England.
This fight will definitely happen, but as for reports that it's happening in March, well, I won't get my hopes up just yet. If Pacquiao's history of contract negotiations is any indication, this is but the beginning of this epic saga. Let the games begin!
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Super fight in jeopardy: Pacquiao wants 60-40 purse for Mayweather fight.
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I don't understand whats going on here; do Pac and Roach want this fight?
The negotiations between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather may have hit a brick wall with the news that Pacquiao wants a bigger share of the purse than Floyd. Mayweather has apparently already signed for a fight in March, and Bob Arum is in the Philippines now talking to Manny about the terms of the deal.
While many people suspected that the talks would hit a snag at some point most thought that this would come from Floyd Mayweather and Golden Boy rather than Pacquiao.Speaking to the L.A Times Freddie Roach said:
"Manny believes he should get a 60-40 [purse] split too, because he did better in pay-per-view than Mayweather this year. Manny's the bigger draw."
"March 13 is too fast a turnaround," Roach said. "Manny has a broken [right] eardrum" suffered in the Cotto fight. "I'd like to have more time. I hope the fight happens, yes, but I want us to be in the best possible shape."
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(AP Photo/Isaac Brekken)
It seems particularly odd that Manny has made this claim after his trainer, Freddie Roach said recently that a 50/50 split would get the fight made. Whether or not either fighter is more deserving of a bigger split, demanding to get the bigger share is almost certain to raise the ire of prospective opponent Floyd Mayweather, who rightly or wrongly believes that he is the better fighter.
As far as Floyd Mayweather is concerned, a smaller share of the purse will probably not be acceptable to his ego, pride or claims that he is the best fighter in the world.
To let Pacquiao take the bigger purse is almost to admit that he is the better and more popular fighter, which are both things that Floyd has contested vehemently in the past.
The truth of the matter is that neither factor is clearly in favor of either fighter. The best fighter will have to be contested in the ring if the fight now happens. and the most popular can be argued for either given the mixed bag of pay per view sales either has achieved.
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I knew people would find a way to somehow turn this around on Mayweather. Hilarious how Pacquiao is the one holding up the deal and the fanatics just refuse to accept it. If this the was the other way around Mayweather would've gotten about 1000 ducking articles. Look, obviously the terms are decent if even Arum, who promotes Pac, ran with it. Your promoter is sent wth certain criteria to negotiate with. Arum did his job. And Pacquiao didn't turn down the terms. Pacquiao is shying away due to the dates. Pacquiao has turned down the dates. Plain and simple. Arum made it clear that Pacquiao doesn't want the dates. Even in this article Arum is saying the dates aren't agreeable. If it was the terms he would've stated such. Mayweather agreed to all the dates Arum suggested and now Pacquiao is shying away from anything before May. The fight can still be made. All isn't lost but Mayweather is the first one to agree and only an imaginative in denial mind can blame Mayweather at this point. Even Arum indicates that.
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
It's hard to believe that we have another nine months of negotiation rumors.
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
I Think Its A Bust The Fight Wont Happened In March 13 May In Setp. Or Something
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
We've heard all this with Pacquiao-Barrera II, and every fight afterwards except the Diaz fight. Pacquiao has always allegedly shyed away from fights, but I don't think he will expect 60/40 in the end. I also wouldn't be surprised if he didn't face Floyd because this a fight he can't win IMO, I think that March would be a bad date for him, with his ear I am not sure how long it would take before he could start sparring, and Roach has a lot to work on if he wants Manny to be competitive with Floyd, I honestly think they would have to change his style drastastically which they could do 5-6 months, but not in 2-3.
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March 13
Well, I think this is the first site saying the date is a go.
Ringside Report "The Heart Of Boxing"
It says nothing about the agreement details besides Maryweather and Pacquiao having both tentatively agreed to the March 13, 2010 date.
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
They are just using the medias to pressure each others. There is too much money at stake not to happen, either would be it in march or june, everybody wants a share of Gargantua's pie, from the VEgas resorts to the promoters without forgetting HBO and cie. It will happen and a deal will be made, we should all, matter of fact, not even bother with these details and wait for the official announcement.
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this is just one of the many speculations about this fight. there is even a link of mayweather agreeing to the fight and there are also numerous posts here saying that manny is stalling. if its not signed then theres nothing to talk about. i guess all the pacman hate is coming out from well known haters here. mayweather could say he agrees to fight so let the make up the contract and have both of them sign then we could all have a talk in here.
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I knew people would find a way to somehow turn this around on Mayweather. Hilarious how Pacquiao is the one holding up the deal and the fanatics just refuse to accept it. If this the was the other way around Mayweather would've gotten about 1000 ducking articles. Look, obviously the terms are decent if even Arum, who promotes Pac, ran with it. Your promoter is sent wth certain criteria to negotiate with. Arum did his job. And Pacquiao didn't turn down the terms. Pacquiao is shying away due to the dates. Pacquiao has turned down the dates. Plain and simple. Arum made it clear that Pacquiao doesn't want the dates. Even in this article Arum is saying the dates aren't agreeable. If it was the terms he would've stated such. Mayweather agreed to all the dates Arum suggested and now Pacquiao is shying away from anything before May. The fight can still be made. All isn't lost but Mayweather is the first one to agree and only an imaginative in denial mind can blame Mayweather at this point. Even Arum indicates that.
what deal? did mayweather sign? under what terms? obviously its all talk. i could say on national tv i want to fight pacman but i didnt say the terms. so does that mean that hes ducking me.all bs. where is your proof that mayweather agreed to all the terms arum suggested. its all about the money for arum. if he suggest the fight to be in january that dont mean that team pac has to accept it coz his promoter said so. is arum the one fighting that he's giving mayweather the dates he wanted? and whos blaming mayweather?
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blegit
I knew people would find a way to somehow turn this around on Mayweather. Hilarious how Pacquiao is the one holding up the deal and the fanatics just refuse to accept it. If this the was the other way around Mayweather would've gotten about 1000 ducking articles. Look, obviously the terms are decent if even Arum, who promotes Pac, ran with it. Your promoter is sent wth certain criteria to negotiate with. Arum did his job. And Pacquiao didn't turn down the terms. Pacquiao is shying away due to the dates. Pacquiao has turned down the dates. Plain and simple. Arum made it clear that Pacquiao doesn't want the dates. Even in this article Arum is saying the dates aren't agreeable. If it was the terms he would've stated such. Mayweather agreed to all the dates Arum suggested and now Pacquiao is shying away from anything before May. The fight can still be made. All isn't lost but Mayweather is the first one to agree and only an imaginative in denial mind can blame Mayweather at this point. Even Arum indicates that.
what deal? did mayweather sign? under what terms? obviously its all talk. i could say on national tv i want to fight pacman but i didnt say the terms. so does that mean that hes ducking me.all bs. where is your proof that mayweather agreed to all the terms arum suggested. its all about the money for arum. if he suggest the fight to be in january that dont mean that team pac has to accept it coz his promoter said so. is arum the one fighting that he's giving mayweather the dates he wanted? and whos blaming mayweather?
You just don't get it. Arum, the opposing promoter, said Mayweather agreed to the terms. There's your source. A man who is paid to negotiate for Pacquiao has said in plain english that Mayweather agreed to the terms both parties negotiated. Thats the proof. Are you saying that Arum has lied? Why would he lie in favor of the opposing fighter who he hates? Why would he fly all the way to the Phillipines if he didn't have Mayweather's word to agree to the terms?
I agree that it's just terms, but you think Arum is going to negotiate a 99/1 split? There's a gag order, but obviously Arum feels the deal is fair for both fighters or he wouldn't even approach Pacquiao with such an offer. Before negotiations Team Pacquiao tells their negotiater what to ask for and how far they are willing to compromise. If these demands weren't atleast met half way, why would Arum even agree to them? Why would Arum even approach Pacquiao with them?
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
Obviously even before the Cotto fight, Pac had planned to take time off, as he stated in the post fight interview... He obviously planned to take time off right through his election, and then fight after that was all done..
He'd probably set it in stone with himself and with Roach etc...
But Arum wants his pay day as soon as possible, he's gone straight out and got Mayweather on board, and now he has to go tell his client (whom would have told Arum even before Cotto that he's not fighting again until after his election) that he's pretty much signed a done deal with Mayweather and he has to fight on March 13...
I understand where Arum is coming from, and really hope Pac takes the fight.... But if I was Pac i'd be pissed off having organised when the next fight will be, and probably having Arum on board with him,,, then while he's off planning his holiday and election, Arum is off organising a fight for him right when he's on his planned break..
It's like Golden Boy Promotions pretty much organizing a done deal fight for Floyd while he was retired (read, taking 2 years leave)...
Like I said, I hope Pac fights, but Arum is pushing something that he would have known Pac wouldn't want because he had planned to focus on his election and have a break after the Cotto fight... Pac has had a big couple of years and especially the last year since fighting Diaz, you would understand him wanting a break, and taking one...
So I wouldn't be surprised if Pac stands on his principles and says to Arum "I told you I was taking a f'ckn break for this election, and you fully understood it, so you're being a dick head organizing this fight when you know I didn't want to fight during this time.."
And I wouldn't blame Pac for that.... Even though I want him to fight, but he will already feel it is completely NOT on his terms by Arum coming in and breaking all his plans with trying to schedule a fight during this time..
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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The Fightfan
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fan johnny
Mayweather has only agreed to the terms, but hasn't put any signature to paper.
Exactley. Mayweather gave a proposal who knows what the hell it says. A 80/20 split in favor of Mayweather, to fight with ten ounce gloves and a 30 foot ring. Who the hell knows what the terms are. I believe if it is decent Manny will take it.
LOL! Awesome. ;D I totally agree. That sounds like Mayweather terms too.
He is a crafty dude, though. He knows that as many people watch his fights to see him loss as to see him win, if not more. He doesn't care whether he's the good guy or the bad guy.
Mayweather's terms are ridiculous most of the time. Hell, he might say he wants the fight at 154 for all we know. ;D
No buddy. Every article that I've read on the subject states the same thing: Floyd agreed to Arum's terms. It's all on Pac now. The discussion was always in regards to March. Now that push comes to shove, Pac doesn't like the date and wants the 60/40 split. This is BS.
I hope that all of the Mayweather-haters saying that Floyd always runs from fights, can finally admit that Floyd does want to fight the best. It's Manny and Roach who are running with their tails between their legs now.
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March 13th is a bit early TBH. Pac only just fought Cotto and his ear was all busted up. The guy deserves a couple of months off before getting back into another hard camp. I much prefer the May 1st date really. Both fighters can be at their best with no questions asked. Maybe Mayweather can go the UK and have that eagerly awaited bout with Matthew Hatton in the meantime. It would keep his coffers filling up, which is all he really cares about anyway.
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josef4334
this is just one of the many speculations about this fight. there is even a link of mayweather agreeing to the fight and there are also numerous posts here saying that manny is stalling. if its not signed then theres nothing to talk about. i guess all the pacman hate is coming out from well known haters here. mayweather could say he agrees to fight so let the make up the contract and have both of them sign then we could all have a talk in here.
yea that's it, the whole world hates Manny Pacquiao :rolleyes:
it's been written in numerous articles that up to now, Mayweather has agreed, the only one in need of convincing is now Manny himself, and it's no secret that Pacquiao is a bit of a diva when it comes to negotiating
do i think that Pacquiao is scared of a fight with Mayweather? no
will it get signed? yes, but who the hell knows when
funny how some Pac fans love mentioning negotiations for a Pac fight when it's going smoothly (Cotto, Diaz, Barrera II, etc.) and all of the possibilities of the fight, but once he's mentioned to be the one stalling (which he is for whatever reason), they cry out for him to be the victim, give me a break ;D
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josef4334
this is just one of the many speculations about this fight. there is even a link of mayweather agreeing to the fight and there are also numerous posts here saying that manny is stalling. if its not signed then theres nothing to talk about. i guess all the pacman hate is coming out from well known haters here. mayweather could say he agrees to fight so let the make up the contract and have both of them sign then we could all have a talk in here.
yea that's it, the whole world hates Manny Pacquiao :rolleyes:
it's been written in numerous articles that up to now, Mayweather has agreed, the only one in need of convincing is now Manny himself, and it's no secret that Pacquiao is a bit of a diva when it comes to negotiating
do i think that Pacquiao is scared of a fight with Mayweather? no
will it get signed? yes, but who the hell knows when
funny how some Pac fans love mentioning negotiations for a Pac fight when it's going smoothly (Cotto, Diaz, Barrera II, etc.) and all of the possibilities of the fight, but once he's mentioned to be the one stalling (which he is for whatever reason), they cry out for him to be the victim, give me a break ;D
Well said :D
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You guys don't get this one!
There is a gag order agreement in place and Neither Pacquiao nor Mayweather teams can leak information about the details of the fight. The only thing coming out of the negotiations is talks about the arrangements with affiliates connected with the fight.
Apparently Pacquiao has some issues with details in the contract and Arum has to go back to Mayweathers team with it. In my first post of this thread they say a "reliable source" is saying the March date is a go, but they have nothing beyond that. Yea it may even be bogus, but it's not the same as the other reports.
“I met with Manny this morning and my next step is to go back to the US to meet with the Mayweather people to finalize the arrangements. That’s as far as I want to go and we have an understanding with the Mayweather people until we finalize everything,”
“You can interpret it the way you like it but you can see a smile on my face that means I am not disappointed,”
Pacquiao, Floyd fight a done deal? | Manila Bulletin
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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The Fightfan
Exactley. Mayweather gave a proposal who knows what the hell it says. A 80/20 split in favor of Mayweather, to fight with ten ounce gloves and a 30 foot ring. Who the hell knows what the terms are. I believe if it is decent Manny will take it.
LOL! Awesome. ;D I totally agree. That sounds like Mayweather terms too.
He is a crafty dude, though. He knows that as many people watch his fights to see him loss as to see him win, if not more. He doesn't care whether he's the good guy or the bad guy.
Mayweather's terms are ridiculous most of the time. Hell, he might say he wants the fight at 154 for all we know. ;D
No buddy. Every article that I've read on the subject states the same thing: Floyd agreed to
Arum's terms. It's all on Pac now. The discussion was always in regards to March. Now that push comes to shove, Pac doesn't like the date and wants the 60/40 split. This is BS.
I hope that all of the Mayweather-haters saying that Floyd always runs from fights, can finally admit that Floyd does want to fight the best. It's Manny and Roach who are running with their tails between their legs now.
Manny and Roach running their tails between their legs?
You wish..
From PhilBoxing:
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Arum met with Pacquiao at the New World hotel in Makati City Friday in the presence of only one other person – Pacquiao adviser Michael Konz. Arum said “I had a meeting this morning and we went over all the points and now I have to go back to the United States and sit with the Mayweather people and finalize some very minor aspects and then we’ll have an announcement sometime next week.
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Now lets see how the Mayweathers react to this.
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Pac and Mayweather is on Manny signs for March 13
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josef4334
this is just one of the many speculations about this fight. there is even a link of mayweather agreeing to the fight and there are also numerous posts here saying that manny is stalling. if its not signed then theres nothing to talk about. i guess all the pacman hate is coming out from well known haters here. mayweather could say he agrees to fight so let the make up the contract and have both of them sign then we could all have a talk in here.
yea that's it, the whole world hates Manny Pacquiao :rolleyes:
it's been written in numerous articles that up to now, Mayweather has agreed, the only one in need of convincing is now Manny himself, and it's no secret that Pacquiao is a bit of a diva when it comes to negotiating
do i think that Pacquiao is scared of a fight with Mayweather? no
will it get signed? yes, but who the hell knows when
funny how some Pac fans love mentioning negotiations for a Pac fight when it's going smoothly (Cotto, Diaz, Barrera II, etc.) and all of the possibilities of the fight, but once he's mentioned to be the one stalling (which he is for whatever reason), they cry out for him to be the victim, give me a break ;D
Well said :D
Sorry to rain on your parade.
But read this and weep.
From PhilBoxing:
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Arum met with Pacquiao at the New World hotel in Makati City Friday in the presence of only one other person – Pacquiao adviser Michael Konz. Arum said “I had a meeting this morning and we went over all the points and now I have to go back to the United States and sit with the Mayweather people and finalize some very minor aspects and then we’ll have an announcement sometime next week.
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Now let see how the Mayweathers take this news.
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Great news!
Now I got to try and book the night off work.;D
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Great i can't wait,mayeather is going to school pac fo sho
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yea that's it, the whole world hates Manny Pacquiao :rolleyes:
it's been written in numerous articles that up to now, Mayweather has agreed, the only one in need of convincing is now Manny himself, and it's no secret that Pacquiao is a bit of a diva when it comes to negotiating
do i think that Pacquiao is scared of a fight with Mayweather? no
will it get signed? yes, but who the hell knows when
funny how some Pac fans love mentioning negotiations for a Pac fight when it's going smoothly (Cotto, Diaz, Barrera II, etc.) and all of the possibilities of the fight, but once he's mentioned to be the one stalling (which he is for whatever reason), they cry out for him to be the victim, give me a break ;D
Well said :D
Sorry to rain on your parade.
But read this and weep.
From PhilBoxing:
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Arum met with Pacquiao at the New World hotel in Makati City Friday in the presence of only one other person – Pacquiao adviser Michael Konz. Arum said “I had a meeting this morning and we went over all the points and now I have to go back to the United States and sit with the Mayweather people and finalize some very minor aspects and then we’ll have an announcement sometime next week.
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Now let see how the Mayweathers take this news.
read and weep? i said the fight would be made, and it was fact that Pacquiao was the one stalling, if he signed on well good for him, props to both guys for agreeing quickly and showing that they really want the fight, it's how it should be done anyways, how Mayweather will take the news? he isn't reluctant seeing how he was the first one to sign on :-X
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Re: Pac and Mayweather is on Manny signs for March 13
I have no holidays left i wanted to go out there,not much chance of getting tickets but still wanted to go out there for atmosphere.
Still its great news that its going to happen.
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How concrete is this site and source?
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
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TheBranMan
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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The Fightfan
Exactley. Mayweather gave a proposal who knows what the hell it says. A 80/20 split in favor of Mayweather, to fight with ten ounce gloves and a 30 foot ring. Who the hell knows what the terms are. I believe if it is decent Manny will take it.
LOL! Awesome. ;D I totally agree. That sounds like Mayweather terms too.
He is a crafty dude, though. He knows that as many people watch his fights to see him loss as to see him win, if not more. He doesn't care whether he's the good guy or the bad guy.
Mayweather's terms are ridiculous most of the time. Hell, he might say he wants the fight at 154 for all we know. ;D
No buddy. Every article that I've read on the subject states the same thing: Floyd agreed to
Arum's terms. It's all on Pac now. The discussion was always in regards to March. Now that push comes to shove, Pac doesn't like the date and wants the 60/40 split. This is BS.
I hope that all of the Mayweather-haters saying that Floyd always runs from fights, can finally admit that Floyd does want to fight the best. It's Manny and Roach who are running with their tails between their legs now.
YEah sure, that's why Floyd did refuse a juicy 8 millions to fight MArgarito and accepted a lower check pay for another fight instead. IF there is something, Manny always fought the best of the best. You really can'y say that from Floyd. Fact.
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
LOL! Awesome. ;D I totally agree. That sounds like Mayweather terms too.
He is a crafty dude, though. He knows that as many people watch his fights to see him loss as to see him win, if not more. He doesn't care whether he's the good guy or the bad guy.
Mayweather's terms are ridiculous most of the time. Hell, he might say he wants the fight at 154 for all we know. ;D
No buddy. Every article that I've read on the subject states the same thing: Floyd agreed to
Arum's terms. It's all on Pac now. The discussion was always in regards to March. Now that push comes to shove, Pac doesn't like the date and wants the 60/40 split. This is BS.
I hope that all of the Mayweather-haters saying that Floyd always runs from fights, can finally admit that Floyd does want to fight the best. It's Manny and Roach who are running with their tails between their legs now.
YEah sure, that's why Floyd did refuse a juicy 8 millions to fight MArgarito and accepted a lower check pay for another fight instead. IF there is something, Manny always fought the best of the best. You really can'y say that from Floyd. Fact.
David Diaz and a shot DLH over Marquez III is the best of the best??? :-X
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Who's stalling?
PACQUIAO SIGNS OFF; MAYWEATHER FIGHT IS ON
PACQUIAO SIGNS OFF; MAYWEATHER FIGHT IS ON
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
PhilBoxing.com
Fri, 04 Dec 2009
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The smile across his face and the twinkle in his eye gave Top Rank promoter Bob Arum away no matter how much he tried to be non-committal about a March 13 multi-million dollar fight for the ages between reigning pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao and the man who previously sat on the throne, Floyd Mayweather Jr.
In a lengthy conversation with Inside Sports|, Standard Today and Viva Sports along with Dyan Castillejo ABS-CBN shortly after his arrival early Thursday morning, Arum said the Mayweather camp through Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer had agreed to the terms of the fight but wanted it to take place on March 13. Arum told us then he had to get Pacquiao to sign-off on the date otherwise it would be bust and the fight may never happen.
Arum met with Pacquiao at the New World hotel in Makati City Friday in the presence of only one other person – Pacquiao adviser Michael Konz. Arum said “I had a meeting this morning and we went over all the points and now I have to go back to the United States and sit with the Mayweather people and finalize some very minor aspects and then we’ll have an announcement sometime next week.
Arum admitted “I am very excited and it was a good meeting and Michael (Koncz) was very constructive in the meeting, Manny was very alert and showed a tremendous knowledge of what he was doing and his problems of running for office and the March 13 date solves those to some extent.”
Arum took the opportunity to emphasize that the Mayweather battle is “such an important fight for the Philippines that I just hope that Manny will be focused. I think that his congressional opponent (Roy Chiongbian) would do everyone a service including the great country of the Philippines by withdrawing from the race and take Manny’s mind off politics so he can concentrate on the fight." However, Arum said “that’s just my opinion. I’m not a Filipino and I can’t tell people politically what they should or should not do.”
We understand that the official announcement would be made on Tuesday, December 8 to coincide with Arum’s 78th birthday.
He told us that on Thursday, December 10 both he, Schaefer and HBO Sports Ross Greenberg would meet with Jerry Jones, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys football team and the spanking, new state –of-the art $1.5 billion stadium to discuss their bid to stage the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight in Texas although the MGM Grand Garden Arena is also in strong contention to host the blockbuster showdown that has generated incredible interest around the world.
Arum said Pacquiao would train for two months possibly in Baguio City where he initially trained for the “Fire Power” showdown with WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto before continuing his preparation at Freddie Roach’s Wild Card gym. He said Roach had no problem having the first part of Pacquiao’s buildup in Baguio.
Arum said there were tremendous possibilities for the pay-per-view market for the fight with some estimates going wild at 5 million. However, he said Greenberg believes the Pacquiao-Mayweather war could do around 3 million homes to become the biggest in history, surpassing the 2.5 million homes in the Mayweather- Oscar De La Hoya fight.
The astute promoter revealed that this time around England which didn’t carry the Pacquiao-Cotto fight on pay-per-view because of the David Haye – Nikolay Valuev heavyweight title fight has indicated they want Pacquiao-Mayweather as does the rest of Europe and Australia.
There was no mention of a revenue split but every conceivable indication is that it will wind up as an acceptable 50-50 split right down the middle and the eventual gross take of each fighter is likely to reach at least $20 million which in peso terms would mean almost a cool P1 billion when Pacquiao adds up his income from TV, pay-per-view and other ancillary rights in the Philippines.
Arum also disclosed that there would be no tax implications if Pacquiao trained in Los Angeles while the tax cut in Texas was the same as that of Las Vegas.
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jerome01
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ElTerribleMorales
yea that's it, the whole world hates Manny Pacquiao :rolleyes:
it's been written in numerous articles that up to now, Mayweather has agreed, the only one in need of convincing is now Manny himself, and it's no secret that Pacquiao is a bit of a diva when it comes to negotiating
do i think that Pacquiao is scared of a fight with Mayweather? no
will it get signed? yes, but who the hell knows when
funny how some Pac fans love mentioning negotiations for a Pac fight when it's going smoothly (Cotto, Diaz, Barrera II, etc.) and all of the possibilities of the fight, but once he's mentioned to be the one stalling (which he is for whatever reason), they cry out for him to be the victim, give me a break ;D
Well said :D
Sorry to rain on your parade.
But read this and weep.
From PhilBoxing:
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Arum met with Pacquiao at the New World hotel in Makati City Friday in the presence of only one other person – Pacquiao adviser Michael Konz. Arum said “I had a meeting this morning and we went over all the points and now I have to go back to the United States and sit with the Mayweather people and finalize some very minor aspects and then we’ll have an announcement sometime next week.
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Now let see how the Mayweathers take this news.
dont waste your time. el terrible is one of the well known pac haters.
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Re: "March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum
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March 13th is a bit early TBH. Pac only just fought Cotto and his ear was all busted up. The guy deserves a couple of months off before getting back into another hard camp. I much prefer the May 1st date really. Both fighters can be at their best with no questions asked. Maybe Mayweather can go the UK and have that eagerly awaited bout with Matthew Hatton in the meantime. It would keep his coffers filling up, which is all he really cares about anyway.
good point.everybody is blinded now because mayweather said he wants to fight.but under what terms we dont know. but what better way to make a fighter look bad than trying to fight him when hes not available. like trying to fight him 3 months after a big fight when he knows the other guy has not recovered yet.