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1 Martinez 10-9
2 Martinez 10-9
3 Martinez 10-9
4 Williams 10-9
5 Williams 10-9
6 Williams 10-9
7 Williams 10-9
8 Martinez 10-9
9 Williams 10-9
10 Martinez 10-9
11 Martinez 10-9
12 Williams 10-9
114-114 draw.
The last 2 rounds were very close, they were the only swing rounds IMO. Great fight though better than i expected it to be.
I had it 115-113 Martinez
I had it 6-5-1 for Martinez.
So did I. Just look at Williams face. 115-114 would be a good score, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Lemme guess you scored the 11th round even right ? that was a damn close round.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I just watched the fight and scored it 114-114.
My scorecard is identical to yours. :)
This fight needs a rematch. Awesome fight.
I had it 115-113 Williams but the other way around would have been fair as would a draw. That's why a rematch would be in order.
The best fight the best and that's what these two did, unlike Pavlik fighting Espino (ugh).
Agreed, I'm not missing the Williams vs Pavlik fight anymore though ;D Pavlik can go fight nobodies for all I care.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
Martinez has earned a new fan in me and I will DEFINITELY be paying to see this rematch.
I scored the 11th for Martinez. I scored the first round even because of the double knockdowns. I haven't seen the fight again though, so I don't put a lot of stock in the way I scored it the first time. However, in my eyes Martinez was the clear winner, though it was an extremely close fight and I can completely understand scoring the fight for Williams. There needs to be a rematch, and I think Williams will win a clear decision should there be one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBLemme guess you scored the 11th round even right ? that was a damn close round.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Great fight.
Would have been a great draw too. Shame the old judge, who needs to get the spanish archer, made the decision as much a talking point as the excellent action. :beat:
Round 1 - 10-9 Williams
Round 2 - 10-9 Martinez
Round 3 - 10-9 Martinez
Round 4 - 10-9 Martinez
Round 5 - 10-9 Martinez
Round 6 - 10-9 Williams
Round 7 - 10-9 Martinez
Round 8 - 10-9 Williams
Round 9 - 10-9 Williams
Round 10- 10-9 Martinez
Round 11 -10-9 Williams
Round 12 -10-9 Williams
114-114
115-113 for Martinez.
Williams knew he lost as well, he had the look of defeat on his face after the fight, while Martinez was all smiles and confident. Too bad that he once again got a bad decision.
I've been a fan of Martinez for awhile now, but I've become an even bigger fan after last night. Just like Cotto, he is pure class, so if Miguel really does retire next year, I think I've found his replacement. ;)
BTW, Martinez knocked the snot out of Williams. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9awb7nzSgr0
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Originally Posted by Diane
And to be fair he has got a lovely bum
Yep, Martinez is a hot piece of a$$ alright. :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
And to be fair he has got a lovely bum
But he has many of the same qualities as Miguel that I like..... heart, determination, humble, doesn't make excuses, willing to fight anyone, has mad skills, and is always professional. Those are the qualities that I look for in a fighter.
I scored it a draw but my impression was that Martinez won the fight. I'm not sure how anybody could score the first round for Williams. He was clearly more hurt than Martinez. He was still a little unsure in the 2nd round. I also thought Martinez had Willaims in some serious trouble late. Sergio never looked hurt to me. Paul showed a boatload of heart, as did Martinez.
How about that 5th round!!! They hammered each other for the last min of the round. I'm sure it might get consideration for round of the year.
IMO I think Williams is better off staying away from Pavlik. Kelley has heavy hands and Martinez landed a tonne of clean right hands. Pavlik will KO's Williams if they fight. Williams was hurt a few times in the fight and Sergio is not considered a big puncher.
he's not as big of a puncher as Pavlik, but he punches a lot sharper, which will have an effect on a fighter, Williams has only really struggled against 2 guys, Quintana and Martinez, both are fast, sharp, accurate punchers, both have a slick style, and both are southpaws, that's basically everything Pavlik isn't, IMO Williams outworks Pavlik for a UD or stops him lateQuote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1
Agreed. Although to be fair to Pavlik, he would be the biggest puncher Williams has faced in his career. If Sergio can put him on the canvas, Pavlik has the potential to do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshe's not as big of a puncher as Pavlik, but he punches a lot sharper, which will have an effect on a fighter, Williams has only really struggled against 2 guys, Quintana and Martinez, both are fast, sharp, accurate punchers, both have a slick style, and both are southpaws, that's basically everything Pavlik isn't, IMO Williams outworks Pavlik for a UD or stops him lateQuote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1
I don't care if Sergio is considered a big puncher or not. He was landing some wide heavy shots that could topple giants. But not Williams! He is going to go down as something great.
I also see Williams getting into trouble with Pavlik, as they are both stalkers and a little heavy on their feet. Willaims doesn't fight rangy enough to make this a difficult fight for Pavlik. I think people are taking a lot away from a guy that has just been out of action for a long time.
I thought Sergio edged it, Williams thought he did too, and Sergio had a look of "I think I know who the judges are going to give this one to" on his face.
Are you talking about Williams not fighting for a long time? Because it's been even longer for Martinez. Williams fought Winky in April while Martinez fought Cintron in February. So I don't think that should be used as an excuse for Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyFolds