I Saw The 1st Fight And He Should Have Def One That Fight Too, What Yall Think About There 2nd Fight?
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I Saw The 1st Fight And He Should Have Def One That Fight Too, What Yall Think About There 2nd Fight?
Can't believe this is the same Malignaggi who got beat up by Hatton:-\
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Originally Posted by Pavlik
Why not?? Hatton was realistically a much better fighter than Juan Diaz ever was, it's hardly as though Malignaggi has vastly improved as a fighter.. Hatton was an excellent fighter in some rights, and had all the right advantages over Paulie. He had quick feet, good output and aresenal of punches, dug the body well and coult cut off the ring properly. Paulie is really almost useless against a guy who can do so and employ an effective offense. He can't punch worth shit, he's not to accurate, doesn't have great speed, no real ring generalship... Blah I haven't even seen the fight tonight I shouldn't really type anymore.
in the post fight presser, paulie called out hatton. he wanted a rematch and willing to travel to uk for that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
These fights in the USA are too late for me now, but i normally catch up on all the fghts the next day. So i'll let you know later or tomorrow. But as for there 1st fight i think Paul Malignaggi won the 1st fight by 7-5.
Agreed. For me, Hatton and Cotto are a class beyond any fighter that Malignaggi has beaten. Hatton gets underrated on the back of his recent losses, but he really was an excellent fighter on his day. Malignaggi can outwork the likes of Diaz handily, but you raise the bar significantly higher and he begins to struggle.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
Why not?? Hatton was realistically a much better fighter than Juan Diaz ever was, it's hardly as though Malignaggi has vastly improved as a fighter.. Hatton was an excellent fighter in some rights, and had all the right advantages over Paulie. He had quick feet, good output and aresenal of punches, dug the body well and coult cut off the ring properly. Paulie is really almost useless against a guy who can do so and employ an effective offense. He can't punch worth shit, he's not to accurate, doesn't have great speed, no real ring generalship... Blah I haven't even seen the fight tonight I shouldn't really type anymore.
I think Malignaggi would have quite a few problems with Bradley. I would quite like to see Malignaggi against Khan because I think it would be hilarious to see Malignaggi shake him up a little and think he would too. ;D
I hate Juan Diaz....wish he got to fight Pacquiao
I don't like the Baby Bull either. By the way... neutral site my ass. I wouldn't have been surprised to see Paulie robbed there also. Luckily, the crowd didn't sway the judges, and in the end they saw and judged it correctly.
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Originally Posted by Pavlik
Paulie is a mystery fighter...Some times he will go out and impress the hell out of you with hios skill and movement then others he looks like shit...
I seen him fight an 8 rounder on the undercard of Froch/Taylor and he looked like shit and it was a fight against a 3rd rate opp and it was just a filler fight for the card....Malinaggi looked like a clown...then he fights Diaz next and looked great.,..
Last night Paulie had a point to prove so he came in with his A game
think hes got rid of mcgirt, paulie said he try'd to change his style too much or something. maybe we might see a bit of consistancy from him now. hes a good fighter when hes on his game
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
I agree something about him just irritates me as well...Not sure what it is but just something about him...
I have nothing against Diaz but he never made it for me. I dislike Paulie a lot though, but I firmly think that in their first bout, he won it and is the victim of a very bad decision. If the judges do not mess up and if Paulie doesn't try to do too much in their rematch, I think he'll get a decisive win.
I think Marquez has ruined Diaz.
It's just ever since the Marquez stoppage loss, he doesn't seem right.
His workrate isn't there and neither is the pressure he used to apply.
Paulie was very sharp this fight. He is still so annoying, I ended up fast forwarding through several rounds.
He actually stunned Juan and stood there making faces. Then made faces when Juan hit him, what an idiot.
He clearly showed up in peak condition and had a great performance, but I can't stand him.
Also Juan had a bad night, didn't look like he was there for most of the fight. Maybe the Marquez fight did ruin him cause he was lethargic last night and hasn't been nearly as aggressive since.
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Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
Why not?? Hatton was realistically a much better fighter than Juan Diaz ever was, it's hardly as though Malignaggi has vastly improved as a fighter.. Hatton was an excellent fighter in some rights, and had all the right advantages over Paulie. He had quick feet, good output and aresenal of punches, dug the body well and coult cut off the ring properly. Paulie is really almost useless against a guy who can do so and employ an effective offense. He can't punch worth shit, he's not to accurate, doesn't have great speed, no real ring generalship... Blah I haven't even seen the fight tonight I shouldn't really type anymore.
i agree hatton is a way better fighter then diaz
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Originally Posted by Lyle
pacman will eat diaz for lunch
For sure...That would be a 3 rd fight maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by nyc champQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
pacman will eat diaz for lunch
Only if Pacquaio showed up to the fight two rounds late :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnFor sure...That would be a 3 rd fight maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by nyc champQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
pacman will eat diaz for lunch
Was that fight ever in serious discussion? I guess it would have seemed reasonable before Diaz met Campbell.
Paulie Malignagie or Juan Diaz... meh.
Don't know how serious the talks were or if there was ever any official talks rather then just scuttlebutt because before the Campbell fight Diaz was a hot ticket to match up with anyone from 130-140lbs...Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHOnly if Pacquaio showed up to the fight two rounds late :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnFor sure...That would be a 3 rd fight maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by nyc champ
Was that fight ever in serious discussion? I guess it would have seemed reasonable before Diaz met Campbell.
I am not sure Paulie beats Hatton in a rematch, but the Paulie in the fight with Hatton was not the same Paulie from the cotto fight or after ditching McGirt. I think Paulie does much better in a rematch, if he wins or not I don't know, but I do guarantee it won't be as one sided as the first encounter
There is no way paulie beats Hatton. A fighter should at least have decent power to crack Hatton's chin. Depleted punch resistance and all Hatton beats Paulie all the time. Hatton is very good in cutting off the ring unlike Diaz. For a professional boxer Paulie hits like a woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
Hatton is there to be hit and can be outboxed. I am not saying Paulie would flat out win, but I would expect it to be a lot more competitive this go around.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_langThere is no way paulie beats Hatton. A fighter should at least have decent power to crack Hatton's chin. Depleted punch resistance and all Hatton beats Paulie all the time. Hatton is very good in cutting off the ring unlike Diaz. For a professional boxer Paulie hits like a woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018Hatton is there to be hit and can be outboxed. I am not saying Paulie would flat out win, but I would expect it to be a lot more competitive this go around.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_langThere is no way paulie beats Hatton. A fighter should at least have decent power to crack Hatton's chin. Depleted punch resistance and all Hatton beats Paulie all the time. Hatton is very good in cutting off the ring unlike Diaz. For a professional boxer Paulie hits like a woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018
But Hatton will have Zero respect for him because paulie lacks power. If hatton can just go inside without worrying about getting hurt then sooner than later he'll hurt paulie. I just cant see how paulie can outbox Hatton. Hatton has quick legs and is good in cutting off the ring. We already have the 1st fight as proof. It could be more competitive but it could also turned out the same as the 1st fight.
I had Diaz winning the first fight 7-5 but Paullie won this one for sure. Diaz should stay at 135, . He's stilll young and should take a easy fight. A rubber match in the future would be good. Right now, Paullie would still lose to hatton but not as bad. Hatton is around 180 lbs lol, he'll never be as good anymore. He'll never fight Paullie .why would he? One more fight and he'll retire
Good for the arrogant prick winning the fight, he deserved it. One thing that is certain about Malignaggi, he may not have power in his fists, still he's a slick fighter that makes his opponent work hard. Not the best, but right up there.
Still enjoy watching his post fight tirade from the first fight.;D
The thing people saying about Malignaggi now is that he doesn't have the power to stop someone from plowing through him. Well it's only happened twice. And even Cotto didn't plow through him. Hatton did but that wasn't the same Malignaggi. I think we can all agree that McGirt was the wrong guy for the wrong style, since leaving McGirt he has been the guy who fought Cotto and everything else. A fight with Hatton wouldn't be as one sided as the first. I think Malignaggi could win that one too. Especially given the way he's looked lately and the way Hatton's looked lately. Malignaggi still wants Cotto too, you got to give him credit, he always wants to fight someone who beats him, usually when fighters lose or almost lose they want nothing to do with the other fighter. For a guy who has to rely only on his boxing skill, with no power, he deserves credit. I think he beats Hatton in a rematch. But my moneys on Hatton getting Khan at the MEN arena
I disagree with him beating Hatton in a rematch. All that's happened since their fight last year is Hatton was gung-ho against Pacquiao. Nothing to do with anything other than the fact that Hatton has never been able to deal with guys who throw combinations/guys who have a lot of speed and guys who fight southpaw. Pacquiao is all 3. For all we know Diaz' style could be perfct for Paulie or Diaz could have been ruined by the Marquez fight. I'm not saying Paulie hasn't improved or Hatton has declined, but i don't believe it's happened to a degree where i'd give Paulie a chance of beating Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Hatton beat Paulie because he closed the distance much quicker than Paulie had expected. Paulie even admitted this after the fight. Once Hatton was 'on' him Paulie had no answer. I don't see this changing if they were to fight again, and the first fight was so one-sided that a) - there won't be a rematch and b) - even if it did happen and Paulie won, people would only talk about Hatton being finished. Not the fact that Paulie may have improved.
I think Paulie would do better in a rematch, but by that I mean he might win a few rounds. There is not much point in talking about it though, because the first fight was so one-sided a rematch will never happen.
Well, I'm a big Juan Diaz fan and I hated that I knew Malignaggi was going to beat him. I dislike Paulie, but I knew he got robbed. I don't think Juan was off his game, I think any slick fighter is going to give Juan fits. Juan does his best work against opponents who stand still. I'm hoping he can turn it around, that he can learn something new- he's still a young guy. Maybe his trainer may have taken him as far as he can go, but I doubt he changes. Juan seems like a very loyal guy.
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Originally Posted by gest12645
THERE IS NOO WAY DIAZ ONE THE 1ST FIGHT WITH PAULIE, 100 PERCENT OUT BOXED HIM, 2 REASON WHY THEY GAVE DIAZ THE FIGHT KAUZE ONE OF THE JUDGES DID NOT LIKE PAULIES STYLE AND THE OTHER THEY WERE IN HIS HOME TOWN
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Originally Posted by markb018
I AGREE PAULIE WILL GIVE A MUCH BETTER FIGHT
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Originally Posted by nyc champQuote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
THERE IS NOO WAY DIAZ ONE THE 1ST FIGHT WITH PAULIE, 100 PERCENT OUT BOXED HIM, 2 REASON WHY THEY GAVE DIAZ THE FIGHT KAUZE ONE OF THE JUDGES DID NOT LIKE PAULIES STYLE AND THE OTHER THEY WERE IN HIS HOME TOWN
It was not a crime that Diaz was given the first fight against Paulie, you do have the margin for hometown decisions and it was a close fight...Hell even Malinaggi himself said it was not losing the fight that was wrong it was the fact they gave it to Diaz by such wide margins.....A freaking crime in truth
Another thing i would like to point out.
Paulie didn't dominate, he did win clearly but Diaz had more success than the thread title suggests.
What the fuck was he wearing? I mean on his legs?
I agree, I just watched the fight and thought it was going to be completely one sided, but Paulie was definitely comfortable the whole fight and he did let Diaz come at him I think to build up the action a bit. He was flat footed a lot more this fight. Even said at the end he did that cause the backing up looked bad to the judges. Either way it was a good fight, I really enjoy PaulieQuote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
Diaz did seem off to me though, not sure if Paulie just ripped his heart out from the beginning or what.
Diaz's heart was ripped out when he found himself on wobbly legs from a Malignaggi uppercut and was staring at the more shocked and stunned Malignaggi. Does anyone have a still image of his face when he realize he'd actually hurt someone? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by markb018I agree, I just watched the fight and thought it was going to be completely one sided, but Paulie was definitely comfortable the whole fight and he did let Diaz come at him I think to build up the action a bit. He was flat footed a lot more this fight. Even said at the end he did that cause the backing up looked bad to the judges. Either way it was a good fight, I really enjoy PaulieQuote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
Diaz did seem off to me though, not sure if Paulie just ripped his heart out from the beginning or what.
How many right hands did Paulie throw against Hatton?
Obviously his hand was broken.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8945/2cymrft.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by MajestyDiaz's heart was ripped out when he found himself on wobbly legs from a Malignaggi uppercut and was staring at the more shocked and stunned Malignaggi. Does anyone have a still image of his face when he realize he'd actually hurt someone? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by markb018I agree, I just watched the fight and thought it was going to be completely one sided, but Paulie was definitely comfortable the whole fight and he did let Diaz come at him I think to build up the action a bit. He was flat footed a lot more this fight. Even said at the end he did that cause the backing up looked bad to the judges. Either way it was a good fight, I really enjoy PaulieQuote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
Diaz did seem off to me though, not sure if Paulie just ripped his heart out from the beginning or what.
Funny stuff Pugilistic. I mean when was the last time Paulie hurt someone. With all his clowning around, it is easy to not like Paulie, but it is pretty clear to me that it is an act and that he probably is a decent guy when the camera isn't on him.
My question is who can Paulie beat of the top guys at 140? Who should he fight next?
Bradley, Khan, Maidana, Ortiz, Alexander, Peterson? They're all tough fights for the Magic Man.
Maybe he should just stay busy for the winner of the Marquez v. Hatton fight.
Actually, Paulie seems like the perfect foe for Khan - can't punch and a step up from Salita in boxing ability. Makes for entertaining pre-fight activities. And it may be the biggest money fight for Paulie right now too.