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read it from bscene Hatton Plots Mid-Year Return, Amir Khan Fight Possible - Boxing News
i smell hatton is more in it for the money
You have got more chance of nicking the Pope's hat than this fight ever coming off.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
I can't see it happening. Hatton likes Khan and Warren is Khans promoter. It's probably too difficult to set up right now. I can see Hatton wanting to fight Marquez a lot more than Khan. Maybe if Hatton and Khan can win their next fights something could be set up with the increased demand, but Hatton said he wants only one more.
I posted this on the UK boxing part of this forum.
I think its the perfect fight for both of them.
Hatton is still held in high regard by the American boxing fraternity. He can still draw the big fights. Beating Khan would let everyone know he's still a force in world boxing.
Khan is the up and coming next world champion in waiting. What better why to announce your arrival to the Americans then beating Hatton.
The winner of Hatton V Khan should get to fight Juan Manuel Marquez. Simple's ;D
hatton will murder khan theres noway khan will fight hatton
gbp said they're tired in waiting for hatton's decision to fight jmm and they're looking for other opponents (jmm vs. campbell anyone?)
this will likely boost chances of hatton vs. khan if warren is willing to share promotions with hatton's promotional firm
But don't get me wrong, it is a fight I myself would really like to see too. Even now I think Hatton has a great shot of stopping him.
It WILL NOT happen - simples :cool:
hope frank is willing to share the promotions with hatton and give hatton one last huge payday. he deserves it.
hatton vs. khan is quite interesting fight
Theres more chance of amir khan fighting wladimir klitschko on the moon than him fighting hatton.
Khan is too high risk for too low pay for ricky to even consider getting in with him. He is also warrens boy and ricky has already said they wont do business again
khan fights and beats paulie on the floyd-pac undercard. Hatton makes a triumphant final hurrah in manchester against marquez in the summer
To be honest Rick doesnt need another huge payday, it isnt about the money anymore, he is a millionaire 10 times over and some. Neither is he interested in fighting Amir, I know that as we have spoke about this fight before. I went out on the piss with him in Newcastle a couple of weeks ago, and I dont think anything will have changed since then. As for him and Ray working with Frank, I think hell will freeze over first.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
Khan too low pay? ;D
The fight would be HUGE over here. Shame about Hatton/Warren stopping it happening.
Win win fight for Hatton too. He either goes out with a great win the whole of Britain would remember or he loses a changing of the guard fight and can obviously blame age.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
As ive clearly pointed out year after year..
calzaghe-woods
calzaghe-froch
hatton-witter
All at one time or another would of been huge domestic fights. But what exactly is the incentive for ricky hatton to fight a huge DOMESTIC star for 2-3million in the UK when he could be going over to america and earning double that to fight a guy he can beat with his hands tied behind his back???
err.. what? Khan is a massive star in Britain, sells 10,000 tickets fighting guys no-one has ever heard of and is a PPV fighter. A fight with Hatton would sell out a stadium easily. The PPV would be massive.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
As ive clearly pointed out year after year..
calzaghe-woods
calzaghe-froch
hatton-witter
All at one time or another would of been huge domestic fights. But what exactly is the incentive for ricky hatton to fight a huge DOMESTIC star for 2-3million in the UK when he could be going over to america and earning double that to fight a guy he can beat with his hands tied behind his back???
Woods = nobody.
Froch = No TV deal and sells 6,000 tickets in Nottingham.
Neither were ever serious rivals or a big fight for Calzaghe.
Witter? Hatton was only in mega fights in the States against BIG names. The Powderpuff, Urango and Collazo fights weren't big events at all.
HBO refused to buy the Lazcano fight yet Hatton still fought in England because he's big enough a star to sell 55,000 tickets fighting a washed up nobody. Hatton could have (should have) fought Witter anytime he wanted. And Hatton is finished as an American attraction.
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Originally Posted by FensterHatton could have (should have) fought Witter anytime he wanted.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
As ive clearly pointed out year after year..
calzaghe-woods
calzaghe-froch
hatton-witter
All at one time or another would of been huge domestic fights. But what exactly is the incentive for ricky hatton to fight a huge DOMESTIC star for 2-3million in the UK when he could be going over to america and earning double that to fight a guy he can beat with his hands tied behind his back???
From what i remember Hatton had it wrote into a contract he signed with Warren many moons ago that he had to fight Witter, unfortunately Witter became a bit big for his boots and done himself out of a possible fight with Hatton. Started making crazy demands to Warren over money and Fwrank basically told him to piss off.
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Originally Posted by Fenstererr.. what? Khan is a massive star in Britain, sells 10,000 tickets fighting guys no-one has ever heard of and is a PPV fighter. A fight with Hatton would sell out a stadium easily. The PPV would be massive.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
As ive clearly pointed out year after year..
calzaghe-woods
calzaghe-froch
hatton-witter
All at one time or another would of been huge domestic fights. But what exactly is the incentive for ricky hatton to fight a huge DOMESTIC star for 2-3million in the UK when he could be going over to america and earning double that to fight a guy he can beat with his hands tied behind his back???
Woods = nobody.
Froch = No TV deal and sells 6,000 tickets in Nottingham.
Neither were ever serious rivals or a big fight for Calzaghe.
Witter? Hatton was only in mega fights in the States against BIG names. The Powderpuff, Urango and Collazo fights weren't big events at all.
HBO refused to buy the Lazcano fight yet Hatton still fought in England because he's big enough a star to sell 55,000 tickets fighting a washed up nobody. Hatton could have (should have) fought Witter anytime he wanted. And Hatton is finished as an American attraction.
Hatton didnt see a fight with witter who was an established world champion as sellable even before he got in with the likes of castillo and mayweather
Now he has been in with that level of opponent you honestly think at this stage in his career he`ll jump at the chance to fight a domestic showdown despite the fact he`s now a good 10-20 million quid richer??
I can't see any way that this fight happens and I would be full of dread if it did.
I hope Ricky has retired , certainly not sure how much he has left - and NO WAY do i want to see Khan record a win over a shot Hatton. NO WAY
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
same here
seeing him get creamed by a fella who in his prime he would of destroyed is something no hatton fan wants to see
Yeah right :rolleyes: Hatton's main excuse (one of a billion) was not giving Witter a payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenstererr.. what? Khan is a massive star in Britain, sells 10,000 tickets fighting guys no-one has ever heard of and is a PPV fighter. A fight with Hatton would sell out a stadium easily. The PPV would be massive.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Woods = nobody.
Froch = No TV deal and sells 6,000 tickets in Nottingham.
Neither were ever serious rivals or a big fight for Calzaghe.
Witter? Hatton was only in mega fights in the States against BIG names. The Powderpuff, Urango and Collazo fights weren't big events at all.
HBO refused to buy the Lazcano fight yet Hatton still fought in England because he's big enough a star to sell 55,000 tickets fighting a washed up nobody. Hatton could have (should have) fought Witter anytime he wanted. And Hatton is finished as an American attraction.
Hatton didnt see a fight with witter who was an established world champion as sellable even before he got in with the likes of castillo and mayweather
Now he has been in with that level of opponent you honestly think at this stage in his career he`ll jump at the chance to fight a domestic showdown despite the fact he`s now a good 10-20 million quid richer??
Do you not understand Hatton sells out any fight in Britain regardless of the opponent? Do you not understand Khan's a star in Britain? That domestic showdown is the biggest fight for Hatton by miles.
Read this about Hatton's stateside appeal - Following recent claims from Ricky that he is the draw in the Mayweather fight, Ellerbe was quick to point out the facts: "The British fans have had unlimited access to all three of his previous fights here in the US and not one has come close to selling out. The facts are he did about 4200 paid attendance in a 18,000 seat arena in the Collazo fight that grossed $500k, he fought in the Paris ballroom against Urango and had a 5200 paid attendance that grossed $1.2m, and then he did 9800 paid at the Thomas and Mack arena with Castillo, the same arena Floyd did 15,000 with Judah coming off a loss. I guess since none of these fights soldout, then it must of been imposter instead of Ricky Hatton".
As Ellerbe mentioned Floyd's previous fight with Judah, Mayweather's purse against Baldomir was $8m, Hatton made an estimated £500,000 against Castillo - just over $1m.
Maybe the fact we have to travel thousands of miles for the privilageQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah right :rolleyes: Hatton's main excuse (one of a billion) was not giving Witter a payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Hatton didnt see a fight with witter who was an established world champion as sellable even before he got in with the likes of castillo and mayweather
Now he has been in with that level of opponent you honestly think at this stage in his career he`ll jump at the chance to fight a domestic showdown despite the fact he`s now a good 10-20 million quid richer??
Do you not understand Hatton sells out any fight in Britain regardless of the opponent? Do you not understand Khan's a star in Britain? That domestic showdown is the biggest fight for Hatton by miles.
Read this about Hatton's stateside appeal - Following recent claims from Ricky that he is the draw in the Mayweather fight, Ellerbe was quick to point out the facts: "The British fans have had unlimited access to all three of his previous fights here in the US and not one has come close to selling out. The facts are he did about 4200 paid attendance in a 18,000 seat arena in the Collazo fight that grossed $500k, he fought in the Paris ballroom against Urango and had a 5200 paid attendance that grossed $1.2m, and then he did 9800 paid at the Thomas and Mack arena with Castillo, the same arena Floyd did 15,000 with Judah coming off a loss. I guess since none of these fights soldout, then it must of been imposter instead of Ricky Hatton".
As Ellerbe mentioned Floyd's previous fight with Judah, Mayweather's purse against Baldomir was $8m, Hatton made an estimated £500,000 against Castillo - just over $1m.
No the american interest for ricky isnt what it is for mayweather and a lot of other US boxers. But the fact he can still fill a large stadium in a whole different nation shows there is interest
The facts say he can't. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerMaybe the fact we have to travel thousands of miles for the privilageQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah right :rolleyes: Hatton's main excuse (one of a billion) was not giving Witter a payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Do you not understand Hatton sells out any fight in Britain regardless of the opponent? Do you not understand Khan's a star in Britain? That domestic showdown is the biggest fight for Hatton by miles.
Read this about Hatton's stateside appeal - Following recent claims from Ricky that he is the draw in the Mayweather fight, Ellerbe was quick to point out the facts: "The British fans have had unlimited access to all three of his previous fights here in the US and not one has come close to selling out. The facts are he did about 4200 paid attendance in a 18,000 seat arena in the Collazo fight that grossed $500k, he fought in the Paris ballroom against Urango and had a 5200 paid attendance that grossed $1.2m, and then he did 9800 paid at the Thomas and Mack arena with Castillo, the same arena Floyd did 15,000 with Judah coming off a loss. I guess since none of these fights soldout, then it must of been imposter instead of Ricky Hatton".
As Ellerbe mentioned Floyd's previous fight with Judah, Mayweather's purse against Baldomir was $8m, Hatton made an estimated £500,000 against Castillo - just over $1m.
No the american interest for ricky isnt what it is for mayweather and a lot of other US boxers. But the fact he can still fill a large stadium in a whole different nation shows there is interest
The point is - Hatton is a tremendous selling boxing star, but nowhere near the size in America you make out, he couldn't earn 6 million fighting nobodies before and certainly can't now ;)
Rick didnt give Witter a payday because he simply didnt wish to line his pockets, it's that simple. Rick told me the reason he didnt like Witter was because he was extremely two-faced and a prick. He came to that conclusion because of the fact Witter always saw to seek out Rick at various boxing functions and was the nicest person in the world to his face, then as soon as Rick wasnt there, and the camera's were on, Witter completely changed his tune and began calling out Rick.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah right :rolleyes: Hatton's main excuse (one of a billion) was not giving Witter a payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Hatton didnt see a fight with witter who was an established world champion as sellable even before he got in with the likes of castillo and mayweather
Now he has been in with that level of opponent you honestly think at this stage in his career he`ll jump at the chance to fight a domestic showdown despite the fact he`s now a good 10-20 million quid richer??
Do you not understand Hatton sells out any fight in Britain regardless of the opponent? Do you not understand Khan's a star in Britain? That domestic showdown is the biggest fight for Hatton by miles.
Read this about Hatton's stateside appeal - Following recent claims from Ricky that he is the draw in the Mayweather fight, Ellerbe was quick to point out the facts: "The British fans have had unlimited access to all three of his previous fights here in the US and not one has come close to selling out. The facts are he did about 4200 paid attendance in a 18,000 seat arena in the Collazo fight that grossed $500k, he fought in the Paris ballroom against Urango and had a 5200 paid attendance that grossed $1.2m, and then he did 9800 paid at the Thomas and Mack arena with Castillo, the same arena Floyd did 15,000 with Judah coming off a loss. I guess since none of these fights soldout, then it must of been imposter instead of Ricky Hatton".
As Ellerbe mentioned Floyd's previous fight with Judah, Mayweather's purse against Baldomir was $8m, Hatton made an estimated £500,000 against Castillo - just over $1m.
Also, after Witter ran the marathon against Judah, Showtime simply would not entertain a fight with Hatton. And as Showtime were the paymasters at that particular time, it was never going to happen.
I think there was a window in which they could have made a decent domestic match up. I know for a fact that when Ricky resigned with Sports Network he demanded that the Witter fight was in the contract should he wish to exercise the option. After all the shit that Witter spouted from then on in, he didnt bother. But it certainly was his intent.
Any accusations that Hatton was scared of Witter is a joke, Ricky would fight anyone, thats already been proved. Warren held Hatton back for many years whilst he padded his record, and although I understand the reason behind this, in hindsight, I think it was to Rick's detriment.
A funny story about Witter.......
Witter had just had a new set of Wrought Iron gates built outside his home and was extremely proud of them, to the point he was seen posing outside his new gates in the local paper with a huge smile on his face. Now lets just say some words were passed between certain people, and the very next day those sparkling new gates were stolen and dumped. Witter's face in his local rag the following day, stood outside his house with the gates now missing was a sight for sore eyes. I know Rick still laughs to this day when it gets mentioned. Not that he had anything to do with it by the way. :-X;);D
As for Mayweather selling out the Hatton fight, thats ridiculous in my opinion. Mayweather needed Oscar and Ricky to do those numbers. He has never done anything like that before off his own bat, and the reason why is he's just not that popular. He's a genius, but he alone doesnt put bums on seats.
Mayweather just did a million PPVs with Marquez. He did 850,000 in the States with Hatton, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-ForceRick didnt give Witter a payday because he simply didnt wish to line his pockets, it's that simple. Rick told me the reason he didnt like Witter was because he was extremely two-faced and a prick. He came to that conclusion because of the fact Witter always saw to seek out Rick at various boxing functions and was the nicest person in the world to his face, then as soon as Rick wasnt there, and the camera's were on, Witter completely changed his tune and began calling out Rick.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah right :rolleyes: Hatton's main excuse (one of a billion) was not giving Witter a payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Do you not understand Hatton sells out any fight in Britain regardless of the opponent? Do you not understand Khan's a star in Britain? That domestic showdown is the biggest fight for Hatton by miles.
Read this about Hatton's stateside appeal - Following recent claims from Ricky that he is the draw in the Mayweather fight, Ellerbe was quick to point out the facts: "The British fans have had unlimited access to all three of his previous fights here in the US and not one has come close to selling out. The facts are he did about 4200 paid attendance in a 18,000 seat arena in the Collazo fight that grossed $500k, he fought in the Paris ballroom against Urango and had a 5200 paid attendance that grossed $1.2m, and then he did 9800 paid at the Thomas and Mack arena with Castillo, the same arena Floyd did 15,000 with Judah coming off a loss. I guess since none of these fights soldout, then it must of been imposter instead of Ricky Hatton".
As Ellerbe mentioned Floyd's previous fight with Judah, Mayweather's purse against Baldomir was $8m, Hatton made an estimated £500,000 against Castillo - just over $1m.
Also, after Witter ran the marathon against Judah, Showtime simply would not entertain a fight with Hatton. And as Showtime were the paymasters at that particular time, it was never going to happen.
I think there was a window in which they could have made a decent domestic match up. I know for a fact that when Ricky resigned with Sports Network he demanded that the Witter fight was in the contract should he wish to exercise the option. After all the shit that Witter spouted from then on in, he didnt bother. But it certainly wasnt his intent.
Any accusations that Hatton was scared of Witter is a joke, Ricky would fight anyone, thats already been proved. Warren held Hatton back for many years whilst he padded his record, and although I understand the reason behind this, in hindsight, I think it was to Rick's detriment.
A funny story about Witter.......
Witter had just had a new set of Wrought Iron gates built outside his home and was extremely proud of them, to the point he was seen posing outside in the local paper with huge smile on his face. Now lets just say some words were passed between certain people, and the very next day those sparkling new gates were stolen and dumped. Witter face in his local rag the following day, stood outside his house with the gates now missing was a sight for saw eyes. I know Rick still laughs to this day when it gets mentioned. Not that he had anything to do with it by the way. :-X;);D
As for Mayweather selling out the Hatton fight, thats ridiculous in my opinion. Mayweather needed Oscar and Ricky to do those numbers. He has never done anything like that before off his own bat, and the reason why is he's just not that popular. He's a genius, but he alone doesnt put bums on seats,
The fact Hatton-Witter goes back to before they were even world-class is why it's such a shame it never happened. AS Ricky was the one in control obviously he gets the flack for it not happening.
Only Tsyzu, Castillo, Floyd and Pac are justifiable better fights for Hatton than Witter. As I said, if he can sell 55,000 for Lazcano he's got no excuse to not fight Witter. So.. in almost 10 years Hatton found 20+ fighters other than Witter to face.
Again your missing the fact hatton even in beating and humiliating witter would still of been giving the very man who showed him so much contempt over the years the payday of his lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterMayweather just did a million PPVs with Marquez. He did 850,000 in the States with Hatton, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-ForceRick didnt give Witter a payday because he simply didnt wish to line his pockets, it's that simple. Rick told me the reason he didnt like Witter was because he was extremely two-faced and a prick. He came to that conclusion because of the fact Witter always saw to seek out Rick at various boxing functions and was the nicest person in the world to his face, then as soon as Rick wasnt there, and the camera's were on, Witter completely changed his tune and began calling out Rick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Also, after Witter ran the marathon against Judah, Showtime simply would not entertain a fight with Hatton. And as Showtime were the paymasters at that particular time, it was never going to happen.
I think there was a window in which they could have made a decent domestic match up. I know for a fact that when Ricky resigned with Sports Network he demanded that the Witter fight was in the contract should he wish to exercise the option. After all the shit that Witter spouted from then on in, he didnt bother. But it certainly wasnt his intent.
Any accusations that Hatton was scared of Witter is a joke, Ricky would fight anyone, thats already been proved. Warren held Hatton back for many years whilst he padded his record, and although I understand the reason behind this, in hindsight, I think it was to Rick's detriment.
A funny story about Witter.......
Witter had just had a new set of Wrought Iron gates built outside his home and was extremely proud of them, to the point he was seen posing outside in the local paper with huge smile on his face. Now lets just say some words were passed between certain people, and the very next day those sparkling new gates were stolen and dumped. Witter face in his local rag the following day, stood outside his house with the gates now missing was a sight for saw eyes. I know Rick still laughs to this day when it gets mentioned. Not that he had anything to do with it by the way. :-X;);D
As for Mayweather selling out the Hatton fight, thats ridiculous in my opinion. Mayweather needed Oscar and Ricky to do those numbers. He has never done anything like that before off his own bat, and the reason why is he's just not that popular. He's a genius, but he alone doesnt put bums on seats,
The fact Hatton-Witter goes back to before they were even world-class is why it's such a shame it never happened. AS Ricky was the one in control obviously he gets the flack for it not happening.
Only Tsyzu, Castillo, Floyd and Pac are justifiable better fights for Hatton than Witter. As I said, if he can sell 55,000 for Lazcano he's got no excuse to not fight Witter.
And what the hell does junior witter bring to the table that juan lazcano doesnt?
As said by ricky himself "if junior witter were fighting in my back garden id close the curtains"
Very true but we all know the reasons for this. This fight wouldnt have done a million PPV's two years ago. It was Mayweathers return that drummed up the interest, the saviour of boxing if you like. With the UFC and MMA making a big surge over the last couple of years, this was in a effect the fight that proved boxing isnt dead quite yet as speculated. It did need someone like Mayweather to do this, and his two year lay-off, much like SRL, generated this type of interest. Also the fights with Oscar and Hatton certainly upped Floyds appeal in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterMayweather just did a million PPVs with Marquez. He did 850,000 in the States with Hatton, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-ForceRick didnt give Witter a payday because he simply didnt wish to line his pockets, it's that simple. Rick told me the reason he didnt like Witter was because he was extremely two-faced and a prick. He came to that conclusion because of the fact Witter always saw to seek out Rick at various boxing functions and was the nicest person in the world to his face, then as soon as Rick wasnt there, and the camera's were on, Witter completely changed his tune and began calling out Rick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Also, after Witter ran the marathon against Judah, Showtime simply would not entertain a fight with Hatton. And as Showtime were the paymasters at that particular time, it was never going to happen.
I think there was a window in which they could have made a decent domestic match up. I know for a fact that when Ricky resigned with Sports Network he demanded that the Witter fight was in the contract should he wish to exercise the option. After all the shit that Witter spouted from then on in, he didnt bother. But it certainly wasnt his intent.
Any accusations that Hatton was scared of Witter is a joke, Ricky would fight anyone, thats already been proved. Warren held Hatton back for many years whilst he padded his record, and although I understand the reason behind this, in hindsight, I think it was to Rick's detriment.
A funny story about Witter.......
Witter had just had a new set of Wrought Iron gates built outside his home and was extremely proud of them, to the point he was seen posing outside in the local paper with huge smile on his face. Now lets just say some words were passed between certain people, and the very next day those sparkling new gates were stolen and dumped. Witter face in his local rag the following day, stood outside his house with the gates now missing was a sight for saw eyes. I know Rick still laughs to this day when it gets mentioned. Not that he had anything to do with it by the way. :-X;);D
As for Mayweather selling out the Hatton fight, thats ridiculous in my opinion. Mayweather needed Oscar and Ricky to do those numbers. He has never done anything like that before off his own bat, and the reason why is he's just not that popular. He's a genius, but he alone doesnt put bums on seats,
The fact Hatton-Witter goes back to before they were even world-class is why it's such a shame it never happened. AS Ricky was the one in control obviously he gets the flack for it not happening.
Only Tsyzu, Castillo, Floyd and Pac are justifiable better fights for Hatton than Witter. As I said, if he can sell 55,000 for Lazcano he's got no excuse to not fight Witter.
i don't buy that it isn't about the money anymore. look at floyd and pacquiao, i think both guys are richer than ricky but they're still fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-ForceTo be honest Rick doesnt need another huge payday, it isnt about the money anymore, he is a millionaire 10 times over and some. Neither is he interested in fighting Amir, I know that as we have spoke about this fight before. I went out on the piss with him in Newcastle a couple of weeks ago, and I dont think anything will have changed since then. As for him and Ray working with Frank, I think hell will freeze over first.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
if ricky will fight again, money will be a big factor. ricky can retire peacefully now but big money can also entice him of fighting one more time.
hatton vs. khan will be huge in the uk
The payday excuse is pathetic. No fight would ever happen if all fighters took that attitude. There's always a bigger draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerAgain your missing the fact hatton even in beating and humiliating witter would still of been giving the very man who showed him so much contempt over the years the payday of his lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterMayweather just did a million PPVs with Marquez. He did 850,000 in the States with Hatton, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force
The fact Hatton-Witter goes back to before they were even world-class is why it's such a shame it never happened. AS Ricky was the one in control obviously he gets the flack for it not happening.
Only Tsyzu, Castillo, Floyd and Pac are justifiable better fights for Hatton than Witter. As I said, if he can sell 55,000 for Lazcano he's got no excuse to not fight Witter.
And what the hell does junior witter bring to the table that juan lazcano doesnt?
As said by ricky himself "if junior witter were fighting in my back garden id close the curtains"
What Witter brings more than Lazcano is a near 10 year Brit rivalry. He was also rated no.2 lightwelter behind Hatton at the time. So Witter-Hatton was between the two best lightwelters in the world.
Do you honestly believe boxing fans would have chosen Lazcano over Witter? Even Hatton lovers like you would prefer Hatton smashing Witter on his record instead of Lazcano, right?
Yeah I agree, without doubt the Oscar/Hatton fights gave him serious star power, that's why you can't say he doesn't put bums on seats anymore. Don't think anyone was expecting a million buys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-ForceVery true but we all know the reasons for this. This fight wouldnt have done a million PPV's two years ago. It was Mayweathers return that drummed up the interest, the saviour of boxing if you like. With the UFC and MMA making a big surge over the last couple of years, this was in a effect the fight that proved boxing isnt dead quite yet as speculated. It did need someone like Mayweather to do this, and his two year lay-off, much like SRL, generated this type of interest. Also the fights with Oscar and Hatton certainly upped Floyds appeal in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterMayweather just did a million PPVs with Marquez. He did 850,000 in the States with Hatton, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force
The fact Hatton-Witter goes back to before they were even world-class is why it's such a shame it never happened. AS Ricky was the one in control obviously he gets the flack for it not happening.
Only Tsyzu, Castillo, Floyd and Pac are justifiable better fights for Hatton than Witter. As I said, if he can sell 55,000 for Lazcano he's got no excuse to not fight Witter.
it's easy to understand hardcore hatton fans afraid of khan doing a barrera on ricky but i think it will be a competitive fight while it last. an interesting matchupQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
same here
seeing him get creamed by a fella who in his prime he would of destroyed is something no hatton fan wants to see
I do not think the fight will happen. Hatton will lose his next fight against JMM, even if he wins, Warren would have to leave Amir and Hatton would not want to lose to a Brit.
Trust me I know Rick very well. He always told me, and this was before the Mayweather and Pacman loss, that if he did ever lose, that it would never be his last fight. He said I could never go out on a loss. Rick misses the excitement and the buzz of fighting in front of thousands of fans, I know this because I know him, and he's told me.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolti don't buy that it isn't about the money anymore. look at floyd and pacquiao, i think both guys are richer than ricky but they're still fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-ForceTo be honest Rick doesnt need another huge payday, it isnt about the money anymore, he is a millionaire 10 times over and some. Neither is he interested in fighting Amir, I know that as we have spoke about this fight before. I went out on the piss with him in Newcastle a couple of weeks ago, and I dont think anything will have changed since then. As for him and Ray working with Frank, I think hell will freeze over first.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
if ricky will fight again, money will be a big factor. ricky can retire peacefully now but big money can also entice him of fighting one more time.
hatton vs. khan will be huge in the uk
Some boxers return to the ring for financial reasons, some return because of their ego, others return because they miss the buzz and the adulation. Hatton definately falls into the latter category, but you can add the pride word into that equation and you have the exact reason for Rick returning to the ring.
Hatton v Khan would be a huge UK fight, it's not one I personally wish to see, neither will it be one that will happen.
As for Floyd and Pacman, they are not only fighting for the money, they are fighting for their legacy.
i believe you. one question tho, why hatton said he would fight khan only if he and warren co-promote the fight. why is ricky interested in co-promoting the fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-ForceTrust me I know Rick very well. He always told me, and this was before the Mayweather and Pacman loss, that if he did ever lose, that it would never be his last fight. He said I could never go out on a loss. Rick misses the excitement and the buzz of fighting in front of thousands of fans, I know this because I know him, and he's told me.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolti don't buy that it isn't about the money anymore. look at floyd and pacquiao, i think both guys are richer than ricky but they're still fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force
if ricky will fight again, money will be a big factor. ricky can retire peacefully now but big money can also entice him of fighting one more time.
hatton vs. khan will be huge in the uk
Some boxers return to the ring for financial reasons, some return because of their ego, others return because they miss the buzz and the adulation. Hatton definately falls into the latter category, but you can add the pride word into that equation and you have the exact reason for Rick returning to the ring.
Hatton v Khan would be a huge UK fight, it's not one I personally wish to see, neither will it be one that will happen.
As for Floyd and Pacman, they are not only fighting for the money, they are fighting for their legacy.
"A fight against Amir would be an enormous fight for everybody in the boxing business, but I would have to be one of the promoters," said Hatton. "I know that Amir would take the fight and it is something that I have talked about - it's a long way off, but it could happen. Amir has his own promotional company now and that is all that would be needed to make that fight happen."
i know ricky is a promoter nowadays and he knows exactly how a promoter makes money.
HTH read this from Ricky - "The nature of British boxing means that fans are always looking for domestic dust ups and there is none bigger out there than an all-time British great supposedly on the slide against a young champion aspiring to achieve greatness.
"A fight against Amir would be an enormous fight"
Ricky Hatton says Khan fight can be done - as long as he and Amir promote it | news.boxrec.com
Exactly what I told you ;D
I sure wonder who's more chinny now? Khan or Hatton?
tricky question lol. many people thought hatton is glass jawed after he's being ko'd cold with one punch from pacquiaoQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
I think that Hatton has still this power to draw over a large crowd. The only thing that worries me is that he wants a decent opponent but is definitely not taking care of his health/dieting in consequence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-ForceTrust me I know Rick very well. He always told me, and this was before the Mayweather and Pacman loss, that if he did ever lose, that it would never be his last fight. He said I could never go out on a loss. Rick misses the excitement and the buzz of fighting in front of thousands of fans, I know this because I know him, and he's told me.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolti don't buy that it isn't about the money anymore. look at floyd and pacquiao, i think both guys are richer than ricky but they're still fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force
if ricky will fight again, money will be a big factor. ricky can retire peacefully now but big money can also entice him of fighting one more time.
hatton vs. khan will be huge in the uk
Some boxers return to the ring for financial reasons, some return because of their ego, others return because they miss the buzz and the adulation. Hatton definately falls into the latter category, but you can add the pride word into that equation and you have the exact reason for Rick returning to the ring.
Hatton v Khan would be a huge UK fight, it's not one I personally wish to see, neither will it be one that will happen.
As for Floyd and Pacman, they are not only fighting for the money, they are fighting for their legacy.
Ok, you can see my first point dealing with Witter is basically in response particularly to the first 3 bolded bits. I don't understand this, didn't want to line his pockets stuff. That just seems a really pathetic way to do things. What would you have said if Mayweather or Pacquiao had refused to fight Hatton because they didn't want to give him the payday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force
So Witter wasn't a prick to him to his face?? That's a justified reason for avoiding a fight? As for 'not having anything to do' with Witter's gates being stolen. Well, that's a far more prickish thing to do then what Witter did. Having the intent to fight him means nothing, if he willfully chose not to do it. I've always disliked Witter & used to see Hatton's side that there were bigger fights out there, but thanks to all I've just read I now think Hatton is a dick. Cheers for that.
As for your second point about Mayweather, you can argue that about Oscar maybe but not Hatton. Look at it this way, Oscar did 1m more PPVs for his fight with Mayweather than he did for his next highest PPV seller (Trinidad). That would suggest that Mayweather had at least some noticeable effect on drawing fans to the fight. As Fenster points out Hatton may have brought over loads of fans for the Mayweather & Pacquiao fights, but they weren't all flocking over for Malignaggi, Castillo or Urango. Hatton's PPVs in the States were high because of PBF & Pac, not because of him. In both cases, they were the stars not Ricky.
You can also look at reported UK PPV figures. For the Mayweather fight they were 1.4m buys, for Pacquiao 400,000 buys & for Malignaggi 300,000. That surely also suggests that Mayweather was some kind of draw, not that I'm not saying Hatton wasn't responsible for the bulk of those in this country. But Mayweather did 1m PPVs with Marquez, even ignoring that it was his return to boxing, the fact is that plus Pac-Cotto doing 1m+ as well is proof that Hatton was never the draw, certainly not in the US. It was the quality of opponents that drew thousands of fans over, otherwise the MGM would have been packed when he fought Paulie.