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Bernard Hopkins-Danny Green bout evaporates over money - ESPN
apparently Hopkins wants a 60/40 split, and Green wont settle for any less than 50/50, i don't think Hopkins went 50/50 with Pavlik who IMO is the bigger name and now Green thinks he's a big enough draw to be demanding a 50/50 split just cause he ko'd an old shot Jones, even at 60/40 it'd be the most money Green has ever made
I don't mind too much. It's not a fight that interests me really, I would still much rather see Jones Jr/Hopkins 2.
I know that isn't a popular thing to say, but I think Jones might be alright against an old Hopkins.
i don't really fancy either fight, i'd rather see Hopkins/Adamek at Cruiserweight or Hopkins/Dawson at LightheavyQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Yes, both of those would be very nice too. Hopkins has to do something after this warm up, so I'm very interested to see where he goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi don't really fancy either fight, i'd rather see Hopkins/Adamek at Cruiserweight or Hopkins/Dawson at LightheavyQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
hell even a fight against Bute would be interesting, and if Bute won it'd make a fight between him and the winner of the Super 6 tourney that much more intriguingQuote:
Originally Posted by milesYes, both of those would be very nice too. Hopkins has to do something after this warm up, so I'm very interested to see where he goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi don't really fancy either fight, i'd rather see Hopkins/Adamek at Cruiserweight or Hopkins/Dawson at LightheavyQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
That would be interesting...I was wondering why Bute wasn't in the super 6..Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshell even a fight against Bute would be interesting, and if Bute won it'd make a fight between him and the winner of the Super 6 tourney that much more intriguingQuote:
Originally Posted by milesYes, both of those would be very nice too. Hopkins has to do something after this warm up, so I'm very interested to see where he goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Jones just needs to stop whoreing himself and his legacy now :mad:
I really did not care for this fight anyways.
I think Green's 50/50 demands might be reasonable considering he's the main draw in Australia, where the fight will be taking place. I'd wager it earns a lot more coin there than in the U.S.
As I'm not a big Green fan I am pretty unbias but I'll say that if the fight takes place in Australia then Green IS a big enough draw to warrant a 50/50 split... Fact.
well even though it was scheduled to be in Australia i really doubt that it would end up being there due to Hopkins, it'd probably end up in MSG or Atlantic City, but if it did happen in Australia well then obviously Green would be a big draw, but again i really doubt B-Hop would go down under lolQuote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
Serzly who does Danny Green think he is? Does he have any idea that outside of Australia on the world boxing stage he is still a fringe contender?
I do agree though that if the fight was held here is Aus he's the draw but maybe 45/55 split still for B-Hop if he really wants to get the guy out here.
Isn't boxing less popular in Australia then even America? Either way, NO FCKING WAY. Australia, America, Pluto, it doesn't matter where the fight is Hopkins is giving him a shot, not the other way around.
I was under the impression that boxing was more popular in Australia than in America or the UK... of course I have nothing to base this on. I just always got that impression.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
It's not the first time that Hopkins make unreasonable demands, he wanted to give Adamak a famine like 500 000 to fight him and to bank all the rest. I understand that the old man is on his last miles and wants a huge check to say farewell but it's not a reason to attempt a serious bank robbery.
agree especially in the Adamek fight, seeing how Adamek has a pretty good following himself, especially in Jersey where i think the fight would be hugeQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Hopkins will not fight in Aus, he made Joe fight in the US and he will do the same with Green.
and Calzaghe made everyone else (aside from Jones) fight him in the UK lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I don't know about the boxing popularity in either place, regardless Hopkins should get 60% at least or it is a slap in the face. B-Hop is in everyone Top 10 p4p list. Mr. Green will never see that list, so I def agree I don't care where this fight is being held.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Danny Green is a household name over here, Bernard Hopkins is not. Sure if the people were told that Hopkins is a future of Hall Of Famer they would want to go even more but at the end of day alot of people in Aus have no fuckin idea who is. So for danny to ask for 50/50 when he would be the major draw is not that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
OK I was always under the impression that boxing in Australia really doesn't get much airtime on TV at all and that there is no regular fights on TV like Friday Night Fights or whatever in the US. Maybe I was lead wrong. Still, I really doubt the fight would be in Australia (or Europe as B-Hop calls it ;D), even if it was that logic doesn't really make sense. He may be the bigger draw in Australia but who has more options? Obviously it's B-Hop and he could be fighting fighters with a lot higher ranking in the sport who would be glad to take a smaller split just for the fight.
Hard to believe even a casual fan hasn't heard the name Bernard Hopkins... But you live there I don't so I'll take your word for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeDanny Green is a household name over here, Bernard Hopkins is not. Sure if the people were told that Hopkins is a future of Hall Of Famer they would want to go even more but at the end of day alot of people in Aus have no fuckin idea who is. So for danny to ask for 50/50 when he would be the major draw is not that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Well it makes enough sense. If they don't have weekly boxing (which I'm pretty sure they don't) and the only time they show bouts are like when Mundine and Green (Mirovic maybe? ;D) fight then it might be harder to track the international fighters. For example, I know like 2 f1 drivers yet it's an international sport with a much higher profile then Nascar of which I can name probably 100 drivers.
I like Green and he should count himself lucky to have found such a huge platform.Koing....clean....a future HOF'r and being matched right off with another in Hokins.Huge prestige,huge paydays and huge opportunity's.I mean wasn't he fresh off retirement and a new life racing cars or something ?Good comeback I'd say.Hopkins should get and merits a 60% cut,and no way is he going to Australia.
We do have weekly fights actually, we have our own friday night fights. Aussies love watching their own fighters fight and Hopkins is known by some fans but more fans in Aus would know who Green is. Most people i spoke to about Jones vs Green had no idea that Jones had even been good earlier in his career. Some thought he was a nobody so they arent going to have a clue who Hopkins is (i think Roy Jones is more famous then Hopkins).Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Well then Aussie "fans" need to bone up on their boxing knowlege a bit not knowing future HOF'ers from other contries... That's like me not knowing Lenox Lewis, or, Tszyu, or Calzaghe, or the Klitschkos... That seems a bit ridiculous to me but whatever. They must think Gatti is a no heart hump club fighter... and that Tyson was a bag boy at a stop & shop somewhere as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeWe do have weekly fights actually, we have our own friday night fights. Aussies love watching their own fighters fight and Hopkins is known by some fans but more fans in Aus would know who Green is. Most people i spoke to about Jones vs Green had no idea that Jones had even been good earlier in his career. Some thought he was a nobody so they arent going to have a clue who Hopkins is (i think Roy Jones is more famous then Hopkins).Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Looks like Green is rethinking all this
Green’s new offer to Hopkins | Boxing News
Mate i know what ya mean but there isnt too many true boxing fans here, they love watching a fight...dont give a shit who it is though lol I would be with no doubt in my mind the biggest boxing fan in my whole town of 18 000 people, you know how i know? Coz everytime i talk to someone about boxing they dont know shit about current fighters and they sound so stupid when watching fights such as saying things like "oh the pussy moved out of the way, stand there and slug". I havent met anyone in my town that could tell me who Hopkins last 3 opponents were, which weight division Jones Jr started at and some people thought Green beat Mundine easily and he was robbed lolQuote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONWell then Aussie "fans" need to bone up on their boxing knowlege a bit not knowing future HOF'ers from other contries... That's like me not knowing Lenox Lewis, or, Tszyu, or Calzaghe, or the Klitschkos... That seems a bit ridiculous to me but whatever. They must think Gatti is a no heart hump club fighter... and that Tyson was a bag boy at a stop & shop somewhere as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeWe do have weekly fights actually, we have our own friday night fights. Aussies love watching their own fighters fight and Hopkins is known by some fans but more fans in Aus would know who Green is. Most people i spoke to about Jones vs Green had no idea that Jones had even been good earlier in his career. Some thought he was a nobody so they arent going to have a clue who Hopkins is (i think Roy Jones is more famous then Hopkins).Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
So in general true boxing fans are hard to find here but general fight fans...there fuckin plenty of them ;)
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Originally Posted by miles
No. You're correct. Jones Jr. vs. Hopkins 2 is still the fight to be made. However, I think that Hopkins will take him out.
As for Green: he's delusional. Who the hell is Green to demand a 50/50 purse split against a man -- who was over 40 at the time -- that gave Kelly Pavlik a complete boxing clinic. Although Hopkins didn't look that good in his last fight, I think he'll be in great shape against Roy. Roy has become the victim of 'Father Time': his speed, reflexes and defensive skills have gone through a downward spiral and have exposed his chin.
Considering this, and Jones VERY suspect chin, it may seem curious that I would like to see Hopkins beat Jones. However, if Jones is willing to take the fight, which I'm sure he'll jump on, he opens himself up to whatever beating Hopkins brings to the ring.
I thinks it's a testament to Pavlik's insecurity over his skills that he didn't push for a rematch with Hopkins. Pavliks' stock dropped a lot after that clinic.
except Tucker Podwell. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesand Calzaghe made everyone else (aside from Jones) fight him in the UK lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Thank god. I didn't wanna see that fight anyway.
Hopkins vs Dawson or Hopkins vs Adamek are far more interesting fights.
Damn it thats fucked, i was hoping it would happen so i could go to it. Id only be going to see Bernard Hopkins fight because that would be a once in a life time chance but still it would of been good.