Taylor Withdraws from Super Six. Winner of Bika - Green to take his place

Taylor drops out of Super 6 - USATODAY.com

Best Replacement???

Finally a fighter doing something smart.

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Taylor drops Super Six


Jermain Taylor (28-4-1, 17 KOs), former undisputed middleweight champion, has made a decision regarding his future boxing career. Taylor, who was a participant ...the rest at fightnews.com

This is Pavliks best chance to bounce back on the scene, not sure he has the hunger though. Bute would be the obvious choice.

Im taking Bika to win this in around 10.

But im nto to sure about him in the super six he is scheduled to fight Ward which will end up like the Miranda fight, who do you think will replace Taylor, Green or Bika?


Green vs Bika Winner To Fight Andre Ward on 4/17 - Boxing News

Seems like the best choice for a replacement, but either one has to be considered a huge underdog IMO.

If Green had continued to progress like he did earlier in his career, I would've considered him to be a real threat. After the Miranda fight and his intestinal troubles, he just doesn't seem the same. I haven't seen his latest though, and he does have a string of wins...

Bika has great assets in ruggedness, strength, and heart, but I just think he'll get outclassed at this level.

I think if Green fights the right fight, he'll take a decision. If he spends half the fight looking at his kicks, Bika KOs him.

This is the best scenario for the sake of the tourney. I hope Bika wins, because he brings a different dimension to the table we already have slick boxers in there. Bika would definately be an underdog, but noone in the tourney is going to look good fighting him. Green on the otherhand will look either flawless or ass-bad.

Bute had said that he had his rematch with Andrade on tap so that's why he didn't go into the tourney initially... Bute should be in this tournament. Are there other reasons keeping him out?

The winner of Bika/Green would be ok IMO... Bika would be a hard foght for anyone and Green is a whild card... He can box a bit and has good power.

It also brings into question how this would work now... Being that Taylor already had a fight, how would it work? You can't hand a newcommer a loss right off the bat...

Am I the only one who thinks Froch and Bika would be an awesome fight?

I disagree with the first comment, Bika would be a better replacement than Miranda, hes naturally stronger than Miranda at this weight, takes a shot alot better and hits harder.

Joe Calzaghe said that Bika was the hardest hitter hed faced, and Bika has that rough non stop style, with the power as well the others would have to be at their best, he may not be the best in the group but I reckon he would give them all the hardest night in that group.

Thats even if he gets past Green.

I'm excited about this fight. I know everyone hates him, but I like Green. And if Jaidon can hurt Bika, Green can hurt Bika. This is such a crossroads fight. Winner goes on and has a chance and super stardom, loser becomes a Miranda-type opponent.

Who is a tougher match up for Ward? And in terms of points in the tournament, how is this going to work.

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I disagree with the first comment, Bika would be a better replacement than Miranda, hes naturally stronger than Miranda at this weight, takes a shot alot better and hits harder.

Joe Calzaghe said that Bika was the hardest hitter hed faced, and Bika has that rough non stop style, with the power as well the others would have to be at their best, he may not be the best in the group but I reckon he would give them all the hardest night in that group.

Thats even if he gets past Green.

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Wtf you on about? Where did I say Miranda is a better replacement? I said his next fight will be against Ward and I said that fight will go similar to Ward/Miranda fight and with him already taking on Taylor's KO loss hes fucked he's out after his first fight, that was my point.

sounds like a logical plan in the circumstances, and Bika is damn hard to fight and definitely has a chance to win a match in the super 6... assuming he beats Green but to me, it's almost a done thing:)

I think they need to find a way to get Bute involved. I doubt it will happen because of the Green - Bika fight, but with Bute in the tournament it would include all the top SMW's in the world. That would be outstanding. IMO Bute will end up fighting Pavlik and/or Pascal and waiting for the winner of the Showtime tourny.

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I think they need to find a way to get Bute involved. I doubt it will happen because of the Green - Bika fight, but with Bute in the tournament it would include all the top SMW's in the world. That would be outstanding. IMO Bute will end up fighting Pavlik and/or Pascal and waiting for the winner of the Showtime tourny.

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He will... that's on their plan, either the winner of the top 6 or to fight one of them once their tournament is over.

I merged the two thread, it seemed appropriate. If anyone has an issue with that I can de-merge them. I think.

Cant see Bute coming in for the simple fact he has no points and only has two more fights, so he has a disadvantage straight in. Im not saying it's ok for Bia/Green and not Bute, but Bute is quite big news at the moment and I cant see him agreeeing to this, well obviously he hasnt cos it's Green or Bika :p.

Cool, hope Bika wins. As someone already said Froch VS Bika would be a hell of a slugfest.

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Cool, hope Bika wins. As someone already said Froch VS Bika would be a hell of a slugfest.

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I guess I'm not as high on Bika as most people here are, I think Froch would handle him and I doubt the fight would make it to the 5th/6th round.

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Cool, hope Bika wins. As someone already said Froch VS Bika would be a hell of a slugfest.

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I guess I'm not as high on Bika as most people here are, I think Froch would handle him and I doubt the fight would make it to the 5th/6th round.

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Dont know about that, I cant actully ever remember seeing Bika hurt? i dont see how Froch stops him in 5/6.

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Cool, hope Bika wins. As someone already said Froch VS Bika would be a hell of a slugfest.

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I guess I'm not as high on Bika as most people here are, I think Froch would handle him and I doubt the fight would make it to the 5th/6th round.

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Dont know about that, I cant actully ever remember seeing Bika hurt? i dont see how Froch stops him in 5/6.

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Bika was badly hurt by Jaidon Codrington. A case could be made that that fight should have been stopped in the first round.

Here it is Skel, around the 7:00 minute mark. I had forgotten what a great round that was. I still can't believe Bika wasn't penalized for hammering Codrington while he was down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCuOqjboPxU

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I guess I'm not as high on Bika as most people here are, I think Froch would handle him and I doubt the fight would make it to the 5th/6th round.

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Dont know about that, I cant actully ever remember seeing Bika hurt? i dont see how Froch stops him in 5/6.

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Bika was badly hurt by Jaidon Codrington. A case could be made that that fight should have been stopped in the first round.

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My apologies he was yes your right, I still see him lasting 12 with Froch if I had to predict.

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Dont know about that, I cant actully ever remember seeing Bika hurt? i dont see how Froch stops him in 5/6.

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Bika was badly hurt by Jaidon Codrington. A case could be made that that fight should have been stopped in the first round.

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Eh, don't downplay Jaidon's power due to his chin... Codrington can bang with the best of them... He just can't take it. Codrington has power in both hands that he knows how to use.

IMHO, Bika/Froch would be a barn burner but I don't see Bika getting stopped. I'd have to call a decision for Froch.

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Dont know about that, I cant actully ever remember seeing Bika hurt? i dont see how Froch stops him in 5/6.

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Bika was badly hurt by Jaidon Codrington. A case could be made that that fight should have been stopped in the first round.

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Eh, don't downplay Jaidon's power due to his chin... Codrington can bang with the best of them... He just can't take it. Codrington has power in both hands that he knows how to use.

IMHO, Bika/Froch would be a barn burner but I don't see Bika getting stopped. I'd have to call a decision for Froch.

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I wasn't deriding Codrington at all, I was saying that I feel he justifiably could have been awarded a TKO victory in the first round. I do think that Froch probably hits just as hard as Codrington does though if that's what you're getting at.

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Bika was badly hurt by Jaidon Codrington. A case could be made that that fight should have been stopped in the first round.

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Eh, don't downplay Jaidon's power due to his chin... Codrington can bang with the best of them... He just can't take it. Codrington has power in both hands that he knows how to use.

IMHO, Bika/Froch would be a barn burner but I don't see Bika getting stopped. I'd have to call a decision for Froch.

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I wasn't deriding Codrington at all, I was saying that I feel he justifiably could have been awarded a TKO victory in the first round. I do think that Froch probably hits just as hard as Codrington does though if that's what you're getting at.

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I get you. Yeah, I guess they probably hit about as hard... Codrington is definitly faster and has better form... Froch is just so raw... I'm not a big fan of him. He's just not very impressive. He's not all that fast, he hits pretty hard... He has horrible foot placement which forces his body to square up. I give him credit cuz he wills himself to win and finds a way... That's what champions do. He's just not very impressive to me, though.

Quick side note, Froch got a PURELY HOMETOWN decision in his fight with Dirrel. I thought Dirrel made him look like a fool for atleast 8 of those rounds. It's a shame what those judges did to Dirrel. As for Green, I like him because I'm from Oklahoma as well. But call me crazy, I don't think a vegetarian should enter in a tournament with 5 of the best middleweights in the world. Don't think he can sustain it. He gets in with a strong puncher and he's in trouble. Not sure he's the right fit for it. Eat some meat and get your strength up dude!

Bika showed against Codrington the difference between a fighter having $500,000 and $5000 on the line.

He's crude but dangerous. Sooner him than Green.

I dont think Bika has anymore skill than a lot of journeymen, but he has a decent chin, good power and great determination. I admire his willingness to travel, and the fact he is always in great shape. I hope he gets in the Super six cos i think he deserves a couple of pay days as much as anyone.

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Cool, hope Bika wins. As someone already said Froch VS Bika would be a hell of a slugfest.

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I guess I'm not as high on Bika as most people here are, I think Froch would handle him and I doubt the fight would make it to the 5th/6th round.

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I just love his all out style, he never stops going for the KO, he is almost always exciting as hell and againsed the same type of fighter fireworks are a sure bet.

I think Bika is exactly what the tourney needs.

Time for Taylor to find another line of work. I just think he grew tire of the sport.

Sorry to disappoint those who were hoping to see Bute in the Super Six, but Stéphan Larouche already said that he won't participate in it : Super Six : Bute ne remplacera pas Taylor - Boxe - Maintenant, c�est Corus Sports !

Sorry for the french link, but it's written that Interbox will prefer Edison Miranda or Hopkins to be Bute next opponent.

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Sorry to disappoint those who were hoping to see Bute in the Super Six, but Stéphan Larouche already said that he won't participate in it : Super Six : Bute ne remplacera pas Taylor - Boxe - Maintenant, c�est Corus Sports !

Sorry for the french link, but it's written that Interbox will prefer Edison Miranda or Hopkins to be Bute next opponent.

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Pavlik and Hopkins are apparently on the line of fire for Bute's next fight. However, if he wins that one, expect him to be pit against one of the top 3 of the 6 men tournament within a year or so.

Green is in the mix for the super-six that is the biggest load of s***, he is so overrated!:mad: Thats better lol

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Green beats a washed up Roy Jones Jr and he is in the mix for the super-six that is the biggest load of s***, he is so overrated!:mad:

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I thought it was Alan Green fighting Bika??

I don't think either Bika or Green have an right to be in the Super Six IMO. It should be Bute. Although, I remember reading a really good interview with Froch in an issue of Boxing News and he said the Bute needed to grow some balls, which suggested he's not quite into fighting someone at the very top, not that Froch is a very top fighter. I also remember seeig an interview with Dawson saying he would be more than willing to take Taylors place should he drop out.....

Green........ Bika........ How to devalue the Super Six in a quick and easy step. Come on.

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Green beats a washed up Roy Jones Jr and he is in the mix for the super-six that is the biggest load of s***, he is so overrated!:mad:

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I thought it was Alan Green fighting Bika??

I don't think either Bika or Green have an right to be in the Super Six IMO. It should be Bute. Although, I remember reading a really good interview with Froch in an issue of Boxing News and he said the Bute needed to grow some balls, which suggested he's not quite into fighting someone at the very top, not that Froch is a very top fighter. I also remember seeig an interview with Dawson saying he would be more than willing to take Taylors place should he drop out.....

Green........ Bika........ How to devalue the Super Six in a quick and easy step. Come on.

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Bute chose to not participate, he actually flat out refused. That being said I don't see how Bika/Green are any worse in there compared to Taylor, who else would you put in there, Stieglitz?

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Green beats a washed up Roy Jones Jr and he is in the mix for the super-six that is the biggest load of s***, he is so overrated!:mad:

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Allan Green (Super Middleweight), not Danny Green (Cruiserweight)

I think Bika works that hard to pay for the plastic surgery for his wife.

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Green beats a washed up Roy Jones Jr and he is in the mix for the super-six that is the biggest load of s***, he is so overrated!:mad:

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I thought it was Alan Green fighting Bika??

I don't think either Bika or Green have an right to be in the Super Six IMO. It should be Bute. Although, I remember reading a really good interview with Froch in an issue of Boxing News and he said the Bute needed to grow some balls, which suggested he's not quite into fighting someone at the very top, not that Froch is a very top fighter. I also remember seeig an interview with Dawson saying he would be more than willing to take Taylors place should he drop out.....

Green........ Bika........ How to devalue the Super Six in a quick and easy step. Come on.

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agree completely

may as well rename it "super 5 +1 average stand in classic"

Shame Chad doesnt get a go here...even with only 2 fights he still would of done enough to make the semi`s and id be stunned if he didnt win the whole thing outright

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Green beats a washed up Roy Jones Jr and he is in the mix for the super-six that is the biggest load of s***, he is so overrated!:mad:

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I thought it was Alan Green fighting Bika??

I don't think either Bika or Green have an right to be in the Super Six IMO. It should be Bute. Although, I remember reading a really good interview with Froch in an issue of Boxing News and he said the Bute needed to grow some balls, which suggested he's not quite into fighting someone at the very top, not that Froch is a very top fighter. I also remember seeig an interview with Dawson saying he would be more than willing to take Taylors place should he drop out.....

Green........ Bika........ How to devalue the Super Six in a quick and easy step. Come on.

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agree completely

may as well rename it "super 5 +1 average stand in classic"

Shame Chad doesnt get a go here...even with only 2 fights he still would of done enough to make the semi`s and id be stunned if he didnt win the whole thing outright

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What had Andre Ward or Andre Dirrell done prior to the super six to warrant being in it? Prior to the tournament, Bika and Green had very comparable cv's. Ward now has a win over Kessler, of course.