Any former Mayorga fans out there?

Just watching some of his old clips and although he was a brawler, he was so damn entertaining. Reminded of why he was one of my all time favorite boxers.

I would have loved to see a 140lb prime Mayorga vs Maidana. What an exciting fight that would have been. Really too bad he's not around anymore as his pre-fight antics were just hilarious.

I loved this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV5j6raKQTo

If any former Mayorga fans have a highlight clip, please post it! Can't find any highlight reels on him on youtube.

I'm the biggest Mayorga fan on the forum. lol

He's my favorite fighter and it was heart breaking to see him lose to Oscar and be KO'd in the last few seconds against Mosley after Mosley was NOT sent to a neutral corner.

Anyway he's going to fight in MMA now, thats why he's not boxing anymore.

And yes its a damn shame.

Woulda loved to have seen him fight Kermit Cintron.

I think Mayorga is brilliant to watch, he always let himself down in his biggest fights by not training, hed start off strong landing good shots and winning rounds against Trindidad, De La Hoya and Mosley and then tire after 4 rounds.

Forrest was coming off of beating Mosley Twice and was well rated pound for pound, Forrest also showed he had a good dig against Mosley but couldnt put a dent in Mayorga even when given free shots;D;D

He had Trinidad on his ass but tired, he took everything he had to offer on the chin and got stopped to the body.

Very exciting fighter though, I think if he hadnt been flumuxed by Spinks who some people think he beat anyway we could have seen him in some very good fights while he still gave a shiit and trained, I think he would have waded through Mosley back then and possibly Tito as well.

Oscar suprised me with his power against Mayorga, he dropped him clean with a left hook, Mayorga really wasnt that hurt though he got up and carried on for a few more rounds, he was more knackered by the end than beat up.

Mosley said in his build up to Mayorga that Oscar told him "Mayorga has very heavy hands"

As long as he learns some groundwork and take down defence he will be fun to watch in mma as well, although his first fight is supposed to be against Din Thomas whos very good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BFScdlnvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP22p51P0Vk&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnTRBs8M3_c&NR=1

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I think Mayorga is brilliant to watch, he always let himself down in his biggest fights by not training, hed start off strong landing good shots and winning rounds against Trindidad, De La Hoya and Mosley and then tire after 4 rounds.

Forrest was coming off of beating Mosley Twice and was well rated pound for pound, Forrest also showed he had a good dig against Mosley but couldnt put a dent in Mayorga even when given free shots;D;D

He had Trinidad on his ass but tired, he took everything he had to offer on the chin and got stopped to the body.

Very exciting fighter though, I think if he hadnt been flumuxed by Spinks who some people think he beat anyway we could have seen him in some very good fights while he still gave a shiit and trained, I think he would have waded through Mosley back then and possibly Tito as well.

Oscar suprised me with his power against Mayorga, he dropped him clean with a left hook, Mayorga really wasnt that hurt though he got up and carried on for a few more rounds, he was more knackered by the end than beat up.

Mosley said in his build up to Mayorga that Oscar told him "Mayorga has very heavy hands"

As long as he learns some groundwork and take down defence he will be fun to watch in mma as well, although his first fight is supposed to be against Din Thomas whos very good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BFScdlnvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP22p51P0Vk&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnTRBs8M3_c&NR=1

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Some people think Ricardo Mayorga beat Cory Spinks ? that fight wasn't even close Cory Spinks totally outboxed Ricardo Mayorga and won by atleast 4 rounds.

The only controversy was that Cory Spinks went to the canvas like 5 times, but none of those were knockdowns, maybe 1 was sort of a knockdown but i don't know about that, but even if you scored it. Cory Spinks was still a clear winner.

My favorite fight of Ricardo Mayorga's was his 2nd fight with Vernon Forrest, that was a great battle in the 2nd half of the fight, and it was very competitive i don't really know who won that fight, i thought it was a draw.

What a knockout that was of Lewis. Haven't seen that since it happened.

Very entertaining fighter.

I always thought Mayorga was the best club fighter ever. He showed he could improve and actually gave Mosley trouble. If he could have gotten his head all the way in the game he could probably still be a threat today. I loved the first Forrest fight and how he just invited Vernon in, took it and pounded the schtoopies out of a P4P fighter. How could you not love that little rapist. Ooooops.

I am a huge Mayorga fan...The guy is in no way a top caliber fighter (Or ever was) that will go down as a great but man win or lose he was fun to watch.....The best thing is no matter who he faced Mayorga could change the whole fight with one of his overhand rights.....He had heart and ALWAYS came to fight.......

I just wish that he would have boxed more when he did not have to slug because believe it or not he did have some boxing ability..

He choose to entertain the masses instead:D.....

Mayorga was better than people give him credit for and he always came to fight. The only fight I was really let down with was the DLH fight, it was just too easy for Oscar. Hulk mentioned the lack of space in the KO against Mosley and this is true, Mayorga should have gone the distance in that one.

Mayorga is too old now and I won't give him any attention if he goes to MMA, but I respect him as a boxer.

He could throw one hell of a slap...

He was an entertaining fighter that gave it his all in the ring. Can't ask for more than that. And I love his prefight trash talking.

Mayorga could well have got another title shot if he had gone through and fought Angulo, he had at least done some rounds with Mosley so wouldnt have been as rusty as he normally is and if sissy pants Cintron can beat Angulo then Mayorga would have;D

I wouldnt turn my back in disgust if he fought in MMA, id love to see those big wild punches knock a few mma fighters stupid;D

He really was a breath of fresh air at first,pulverized Six heads and really made you sit up straight :o.....think he turned the corner when he ate himself out of a title shot with Garcia (?) and chased the money.Became a novelty act.

if Mayorga had won the last round against Mosley he would have won the fight, the score cards were that close. He was something special to watch and he showed what a person can do in the sport of boxing with nothing more than a heavy hand and big balls. LOL I had the pleasure of meeting him one day outside the gym were I use to train. He was at a cafeteria having a Cuban coffe and smoking a Marlboro red LOL he's a real nice guy and he's a lot bigger in person.

I was wondering what was happening to him.

He really is a prat, rude, crude and has no class love it when he get beat, only Vargas failed recently.

I wouldn't call myself a "fan", but i sure did love watching his antics and fights.

Mayorga was hilarious. I remember watching something similar to 24/7 before his fight with Vargas that HBO used to air before fights (but it was just one episode I believe) and Mayorga went for a run with a cigar in his mouth ;D What a killer.

I thought Mayorga was brilliant. I wish there was half a dozen Mayorgas in vasrious divisions right now, they'd make for entertaining fights, press conferences too. :)

http://nbcsportsmedia2.msnbc.com/j/m...5p.hmedium.jpg


Look at that. Imagine getting dressed up in an outfit like that and calling somebody else gay. Brass balls and a sense of humour. :)

When was the last time we had an entertaining press conference. I cant think of the last time there were some good insults and a brawl. Are modern fighters getting boring?

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if Mayorga had won the last round against Mosley he would have won the fight, the score cards were that close. He was something special to watch and he showed what a person can do in the sport of boxing with nothing more than a heavy hand and big balls. LOL I had the pleasure of meeting him one day outside the gym were I use to train. He was at a cafeteria having a Cuban coffe and smoking a Marlboro red LOL he's a real nice guy and he's a lot bigger in person.

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That fight is a very overrated close fight, Ricardo Mayorga was hardly landing anything clean. Shane Mosley landed the cleaner/harder shots, and overall he landed alot more than Ricardo Mayorga. Shane Mosley was comfortably ahead by atleast 3 points IMO going into the last round.

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if Mayorga had won the last round against Mosley he would have won the fight, the score cards were that close. He was something special to watch and he showed what a person can do in the sport of boxing with nothing more than a heavy hand and big balls. LOL I had the pleasure of meeting him one day outside the gym were I use to train. He was at a cafeteria having a Cuban coffe and smoking a Marlboro red LOL he's a real nice guy and he's a lot bigger in person.

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That fight is a very overrated close fight, Ricardo Mayorga was hardly landing anything clean. Shane Mosley landed the cleaner/harder shots, and overall he landed alot more than Ricardo Mayorga. Shane Mosley was comfortably ahead by atleast 3 points IMO going into the last round.

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Was he fuuck!!

Mosley did fuuck all and really couldnt do much, its only when Mayorga started slowing down that Mosley could catch up with him, he was having a job walking around through exhaustion before the knockout shot and I dont really think he was unconscious, he knew he had fuuck all to offer any more, he didnt have it beaten out him, his fitness just ran out, Shane was running in to him and actuallly jumped offf the floor on to him in the fisrt round I think, he was shocked by Mayorgas strength for sure, if this fight had happened instead of the Spinks fight I reckon Mosley would have had his first stoppage loss;D

Id still like to watch Mayorga fight, maybe he could smash the shit out of Margarito;D

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if Mayorga had won the last round against Mosley he would have won the fight, the score cards were that close. He was something special to watch and he showed what a person can do in the sport of boxing with nothing more than a heavy hand and big balls. LOL I had the pleasure of meeting him one day outside the gym were I use to train. He was at a cafeteria having a Cuban coffe and smoking a Marlboro red LOL he's a real nice guy and he's a lot bigger in person.

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That fight is a very overrated close fight, Ricardo Mayorga was hardly landing anything clean. Shane Mosley landed the cleaner/harder shots, and overall he landed alot more than Ricardo Mayorga. Shane Mosley was comfortably ahead by atleast 3 points IMO going into the last round.

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Not for me

I had mayorga a good 2-3rounds up and even with the knockdown would probably of seen him winning a 114-113 esque decision!!

Mayorga was a novelty act that we had to stand up and take seriously for a couple moments.

Mayorga a classic brawler i remember exposing his chin "hit me"with the late Vernon Forrest. after the fight he'l just smoke cigars..unbelievable.

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I'm the biggest Mayorga fan on the forum. lol

He's my favorite fighter and it was heart breaking to see him lose to Oscar and be KO'd in the last few seconds against Mosley after Mosley was NOT sent to a neutral corner.

Anyway he's going to fight in MMA now, thats why he's not boxing anymore.

And yes its a damn shame.

Woulda loved to have seen him fight Kermit Cintron.

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I feel your pain...trust me. I remember that night all to well. Myself and 9 other guys went to a mutual friends house who had illegal satelite at the time. All were casual boxing fans but none known followed the sport like I did. Naturally they were all ODH fans as they never heard of Mayorga. I remember screaming my lungs at the TV shouting at Mayorga to get out the pocket as he was getting killed. Very...VERY SAD night.

Here's to you El Matador! Gone from boxing but definetely not forgotten!

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I thought Mayorga was brilliant. I wish there was half a dozen Mayorgas in vasrious divisions right now, they'd make for entertaining fights, press conferences too. :)

http://nbcsportsmedia2.msnbc.com/j/m...5p.hmedium.jpg


Look at that. Imagine getting dressed up in an outfit like that and calling somebody else gay. Brass balls and a sense of humour. :)

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That's outstanding. Look at his face;D

Iv seen some training clips of Mayorga and he has Roberto Durans son as a translator in them, he finds Ricardo most amusing, he'll ask him something in spanish and then laugh before he has to repeat in english what Ricardos just told him, while Ricardo stands there stern faced at the camera;D

I stll laugh whenever I watch this vid. Its worth a watch if you havent seen it. Oscar - Mosley and Spinks and managed to control themselves at press conferences with Mayorga. Vargas couldnt and I think it caught Mayorga by surprise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SxgDXA4xXA

Did not realise that Vargas beat him up in the press conference shame he could not do it for the fight.

I almost forgot how entertaining those two were. Boxing needs more fighters like those two. Now I know this is a Mayorga thread and am a big Mayorga fan, but how bout dat Ferroz eh. That guy was a true warrior who also came to fight every time. I still remember the Trinidad fight, what a display of heart and courage by the then young Vargas. By the way I heard he might be working on a comeback fight with Camacho jr and then I heard Camacho sr called him out, any one else hear this??

Oh and by the way, IMO if Mayorga vs Vargas had taken place a few years before it did Vargas almost probably wins it.

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Oh and by the way, IMO if Mayorga vs Vargas had taken place a few years before it did Vargas almost probably wins it.

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Well thats definitive then;D

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I think Mayorga is brilliant to watch, he always let himself down in his biggest fights by not training, hed start off strong landing good shots and winning rounds against Trindidad, De La Hoya and Mosley and then tire after 4 rounds.

Forrest was coming off of beating Mosley Twice and was well rated pound for pound, Forrest also showed he had a good dig against Mosley but couldnt put a dent in Mayorga even when given free shots;D;D

He had Trinidad on his ass but tired, he took everything he had to offer on the chin and got stopped to the body.

Very exciting fighter though, I think if he hadnt been flumuxed by Spinks who some people think he beat anyway we could have seen him in some very good fights while he still gave a shiit and trained, I think he would have waded through Mosley back then and possibly Tito as well.

Oscar suprised me with his power against Mayorga, he dropped him clean with a left hook, Mayorga really wasnt that hurt though he got up and carried on for a few more rounds, he was more knackered by the end than beat up.

Mosley said in his build up to Mayorga that Oscar told him "Mayorga has very heavy hands"

As long as he learns some groundwork and take down defence he will be fun to watch in mma as well, although his first fight is supposed to be against Din Thomas whos very good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BFScdlnvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP22p51P0Vk&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnTRBs8M3_c&NR=1

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Some people think Ricardo Mayorga beat Cory Spinks ? that fight wasn't even close Cory Spinks totally outboxed Ricardo Mayorga and won by atleast 4 rounds.

The only controversy was that Cory Spinks went to the canvas like 5 times, but none of those were knockdowns, maybe 1 was sort of a knockdown but i don't know about that, but even if you scored it. Cory Spinks was still a clear winner.

My favorite fight of Ricardo Mayorga's was his 2nd fight with Vernon Forrest, that was a great battle in the 2nd half of the fight, and it was very competitive i don't really know who won that fight, i thought it was a draw.

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Mayorga EASILY beat Spinks. Still to this day my Father refers to that is the greatest robbery in boxing history. And so do I. Mayorga won nearly every round, Spinks RAN and NEVER landed anything significant on Mayorga. Mayorga was robbed of at least 2 knockdowns he scored. It was a joke and it sent Mayorga's career from undisputed welterweight champion into a "special attraction".

Anyone who knows anything about how to score a boxing match knows Mayorga beat Spinks. It was an incredibly easy fight to score with Mayorga being the only one who came to fight and Spinks came to run and slap and try and eek out rounds and not engage with Mayorga at all.

Spinks would go on to get more gift decisions like those against Judah the first fight and Karmazin. But none were nearly was blatant or bad as the one he got against Ricardo Mayorga that night.

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I think Mayorga is brilliant to watch, he always let himself down in his biggest fights by not training, hed start off strong landing good shots and winning rounds against Trindidad, De La Hoya and Mosley and then tire after 4 rounds.

Forrest was coming off of beating Mosley Twice and was well rated pound for pound, Forrest also showed he had a good dig against Mosley but couldnt put a dent in Mayorga even when given free shots;D;D

He had Trinidad on his ass but tired, he took everything he had to offer on the chin and got stopped to the body.

Very exciting fighter though, I think if he hadnt been flumuxed by Spinks who some people think he beat anyway we could have seen him in some very good fights while he still gave a shiit and trained, I think he would have waded through Mosley back then and possibly Tito as well.

Oscar suprised me with his power against Mayorga, he dropped him clean with a left hook, Mayorga really wasnt that hurt though he got up and carried on for a few more rounds, he was more knackered by the end than beat up.

Mosley said in his build up to Mayorga that Oscar told him "Mayorga has very heavy hands"

As long as he learns some groundwork and take down defence he will be fun to watch in mma as well, although his first fight is supposed to be against Din Thomas whos very good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BFScdlnvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP22p51P0Vk&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnTRBs8M3_c&NR=1

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Some people think Ricardo Mayorga beat Cory Spinks ? that fight wasn't even close Cory Spinks totally outboxed Ricardo Mayorga and won by atleast 4 rounds.

The only controversy was that Cory Spinks went to the canvas like 5 times, but none of those were knockdowns, maybe 1 was sort of a knockdown but i don't know about that, but even if you scored it. Cory Spinks was still a clear winner.

My favorite fight of Ricardo Mayorga's was his 2nd fight with Vernon Forrest, that was a great battle in the 2nd half of the fight, and it was very competitive i don't really know who won that fight, i thought it was a draw.

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Mayorga EASILY beat Spinks. Still to this day my Father refers to that is the greatest robbery in boxing history. And so do I. Mayorga won nearly every round, Spinks RAN and NEVER landed anything significant on Mayorga. Mayorga was robbed of at least 2 knockdowns he scored. It was a joke and it sent Mayorga's career from undisputed welterweight champion into a "special attraction".

Anyone who knows anything about how to score a boxing match knows Mayorga beat Spinks. It was an incredibly easy fight to score with Mayorga being the only one who came to fight and Spinks came to run and slap and try and eek out rounds and not engage with Mayorga at all.

Spinks would go on to get more gift decisions like those against Judah the first fight and Karmazin. But none were nearly was blatant or bad as the one he got against Ricardo Mayorga that night.

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One of the worst decisions in boxing history, you are kidding right ? and i know full well how to score a fight. Cory Spinks outboxed Ricardo Mayorga clearly, he made him miss mostly all night long.

He countered him effectively, and he never let Ricardo Mayorga get into the fight. He constantly kept the fight on the outside.

So what if Ricardo Mayorga was the aggressor and Cory Spinks, didn't want to engage. Was Ricardo Mayorga able to do anything about it ? no he couldn't, infact he was getting so frustrated, he hit Cory Spinks after the bell and got himself a point deducted.

All i know is that Ricardo Mayorga looked totally frustrated, and Cory Spinks was able to make it his kind of fight and he outpointed Ricardo Mayorga clearly.

Even the commentator's one of them including Chris Byrd, thought Cory Spinks was the clear winner.

The only thing i agree on is that maybe Ricardo Mayorga deserved one knockdown in the last round, but even if it would of been scored it wouldn't of made much of a difference points wise. Plus remember Cory Spinks had a 10-8 round when Ricardo Mayorga lost a point, for hitting Cory Spinks after the bell

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Oh and by the way, IMO if Mayorga vs Vargas had taken place a few years before it did Vargas almost probably wins it.

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Well thats definitive then;D

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One of the worst decisions in boxing history, you are kidding right ? and i know full well how to score a fight. Cory Spinks outboxed Ricardo Mayorga clearly, he made him miss mostly all night long.

He countered him effectively, and he never let Ricardo Mayorga get into the fight. He constantly kept the fight on the outside.

So what if Ricardo Mayorga was the aggressor and Cory Spinks, didn't want to engage. Was Ricardo Mayorga able to do anything about it ? no he couldn't, infact he was getting so frustrated, he hit Cory Spinks after the bell and got himself a point deducted.

All i know is that Ricardo Mayorga looked totally frustrated, and Cory Spinks was able to make it his kind of fight and he outpointed Ricardo Mayorga clearly.

Even the commentator's one of them including Chris Byrd, thought Cory Spinks was the clear winner.

The only thing i agree on is that maybe Ricardo Mayorga deserved one knockdown in the last round, but even if it would of been scored it wouldn't of made much of a difference points wise. Plus remember Cory Spinks had a 10-8 round when Ricardo Mayorga lost a point, for hitting Cory Spinks after the bell

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....some people just don't seem to appreciate good defense, footwork, the fundamentals of the sweet science ;)

How did "slugging it out" vs De la Hoya go?

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Some people think Ricardo Mayorga beat Cory Spinks ? that fight wasn't even close Cory Spinks totally outboxed Ricardo Mayorga and won by atleast 4 rounds.

The only controversy was that Cory Spinks went to the canvas like 5 times, but none of those were knockdowns, maybe 1 was sort of a knockdown but i don't know about that, but even if you scored it. Cory Spinks was still a clear winner.

My favorite fight of Ricardo Mayorga's was his 2nd fight with Vernon Forrest, that was a great battle in the 2nd half of the fight, and it was very competitive i don't really know who won that fight, i thought it was a draw.

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Mayorga EASILY beat Spinks. Still to this day my Father refers to that is the greatest robbery in boxing history. And so do I. Mayorga won nearly every round, Spinks RAN and NEVER landed anything significant on Mayorga. Mayorga was robbed of at least 2 knockdowns he scored. It was a joke and it sent Mayorga's career from undisputed welterweight champion into a "special attraction".

Anyone who knows anything about how to score a boxing match knows Mayorga beat Spinks. It was an incredibly easy fight to score with Mayorga being the only one who came to fight and Spinks came to run and slap and try and eek out rounds and not engage with Mayorga at all.

Spinks would go on to get more gift decisions like those against Judah the first fight and Karmazin. But none were nearly was blatant or bad as the one he got against Ricardo Mayorga that night.

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One of the worst decisions in boxing history, you are kidding right ? and i know full well how to score a fight. Cory Spinks outboxed Ricardo Mayorga clearly, he made him miss mostly all night long.

He countered him effectively, and he never let Ricardo Mayorga get into the fight. He constantly kept the fight on the outside.

So what if Ricardo Mayorga was the aggressor and Cory Spinks, didn't want to engage. Was Ricardo Mayorga able to do anything about it ? no he couldn't, infact he was getting so frustrated, he hit Cory Spinks after the bell and got himself a point deducted.

All i know is that Ricardo Mayorga looked totally frustrated, and Cory Spinks was able to make it his kind of fight and he outpointed Ricardo Mayorga clearly.

Even the commentator's one of them including Chris Byrd, thought Cory Spinks was the clear winner.

The only thing i agree on is that maybe Ricardo Mayorga deserved one knockdown in the last round, but even if it would of been scored it wouldn't of made much of a difference points wise. Plus remember Cory Spinks had a 10-8 round when Ricardo Mayorga lost a point, for hitting Cory Spinks after the bell

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I remember the commentators. It was atrocious. Of course Byrd is gonna say that. Thats how he fought! And got GIFTS against Oquendo and Golota.

Spinks was worse though. It was an outright robbery. He lost nearly every round and never hurt Mayorga or inflicted any damage what so ever.

What a great champion too huh? I mean going on to get another gift decision against a 140 lb fighter and then being knocked out by a 140 lb underachiever, Zab Judah.

What a joke.

It was much like SRL vs. Hagler, but far worse being that Sugar Ray actually engaged more, and Mayorga did not give away the first 3 or 4 rounds like Hagler.

Terrible TERRIBLE decision.

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Oh and by the way, IMO if Mayorga vs Vargas had taken place a few years before it did Vargas almost probably wins it.

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Well thats definitive then;D

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Well they fought each other at the same stage of their careers, both just tired names, Mayorga outfought him the whole way and dropped him a couple of times as well.

The Spinks fight completely ruined Mayorgas work ethic, watch the Trinidad fight, Mayorga was outworking and outboxing Trinidad till he started slowing down, even Roy Jones said the same during his comentating.

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Well thats definitive then;D

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Well they fought each other at the same stage of their careers, both just tired names, Mayorga outfought him the whole way and dropped him a couple of times as well.

The Spinks fight completely ruined Mayorgas work ethic, watch the Trinidad fight, Mayorga was outworking and outboxing Trinidad till he started slowing down, even Roy Jones said the same during his comentating.

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Yeah but Vargas was a much better fighter and boxer in his day than he was in that fight. I don't think Mayorga could have beat the Vargas that fought ODH or even the one that fought Mosley the first time.

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Well they fought each other at the same stage of their careers, both just tired names, Mayorga outfought him the whole way and dropped him a couple of times as well.

The Spinks fight completely ruined Mayorgas work ethic, watch the Trinidad fight, Mayorga was outworking and outboxing Trinidad till he started slowing down, even Roy Jones said the same during his comentating.

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Yeah but Vargas was a much better fighter and boxer in his day than he was in that fight. I don't think Mayorga could have beat the Vargas that fought ODH or even the one that fought Mosley the first time.

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I agree.

A prime Vargas would beat a prime Mayorga.

He was bigger, stronger, and a far better boxer.

Would have been a great fight though.

Much better than the sloppy but entertaining match they had at 164 lbs or whatever it was.

At that point Mayorga just wanted it more and was a little fresher.