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Great Rematches That Never Happened
I was thinking there have been a whole lot of fights that seemed to demand rematches that for some reason never materialized. I thought we could go over a few and discuss why they never took place.
The first one that comes to mind is DeLaHoya - Trinidad, with such a controversial ending to what was supposed to be one of the biggest fights in decades why did they not do it again??
Chavez - Whitaker, another big fight with a controversial ending, especially after a draw why not do it again and get a winner??
Chavez - Taylor, this one did have a rematch but after that kind of fight you go right into it while its still hot and juicy, this fight would have made millions had it taken place right after the first instead of years later when the drama had died down.
Tyson - Douglas, should have gone down again also, any one who saw that fight without no bias knows that Buster did not just KO Tyson he thoroughly dominated him and out boxed him for most of the fight ( even though the judges scoring it up to the KO seemed to be watching another fight) Buster should have fought Mike again instead of Holyfield.
Theres a couple right off the top of my head, what about you guys, any big fights you guys would have loved to have seen again but never did??
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First one that popped into my head as soon as i saw the title was SRL Vs Marvin Hagler. People still argue about the outcome of that one to this day. I personally think the judges got it right very close but W for Leonard.
Shame Hagler retired because Leonard was never as good again after that night and he was probably there for the marvelous one to take!
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DLH V Trinidad should have happened within 5 months of the first fight.
I have never fully understood why Hagler took his bat and ball and went home after the Leonard fight, he sulked, he complained, but did nothing about it in the ring with a rematch? Strange decision.
Foreman V Ali, this one puzzles me as Foreman was the huge favourite to win, surely a rematch was discussed or was George mentally scarred by Ali in the rumble?
Chavez V Whitaker is the most obvious, such a poor decision first time around.
Calzaghe V Hopkins!
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i believe hagler stated
'i will never lace up a pair of gloves again unless its against leonard'
and lets face it, why would slr want a rematch lol
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rjj tszyu
First one that popped into my head as soon as i saw the title was SRL Vs Marvin Hagler. People still argue about the outcome of that one to this day. I personally think the judges got it right very close but W for Leonard.
Shame Hagler retired because Leonard was never as good again after that night and he was probably there for the marvelous one to take!
Every time i see that fight i think the other guy won LOL they should have done it again right after and besides thinking back now thats no wau for a legend like Hagler to have gone out, he still had so much more to offer the sport if u ask me. Leanord and Hearns should have probably had an instant rematch too it could have gone either way the first time. They should have not waited dam near a decade to do it again.
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Marquez vs. Pacquiao III should have happened.
Khan vs. Prescott
Hagler vs. SRL
Mosley vs. Oscar III (after the 2nd fight was a robbery)
Trinidad vs. Oscar
Oscar should have rematched Whitaker & Quartey though.
Whitaker vs. Chavez is the ultimate for me.
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Yea I forgot about that one, ODH and Quartey should have definitely happened again, the first one was a classic and even though I haven't seen it in a while I remember scoring it a close one for Quartey.
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andre berto vs luis collazo
sergio martinez vs paul williams
jmm vs juan diaz
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Hagler-Duran should have happened a 2nd time. First one was close.
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andre berto vs luis collazo
sergio martinez vs paul williams
jmm vs juan diaz
All 3 of these have the possibility to still happen. The first 2 especially. Williams will most likely fight Martinez this year and the WBC ordered to Berto-Collazo rematch i think.
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I don't see why Whitaker-Chavez really needed a rematch. It wasn't a close fight by any scretch of the imagination no matter what you are looking for, it was a complete robbery and Sweet P got screwed, everyone who followed the sport remotely at the time knew it. There was hardly any two way action in the fight, it was just a boxing lesson. Had the judges not got it so wrong noone would've clamored to see it again. Obviously it would've made sense, but the fact that Don King had that much pull in getting Chavez the gift draw in the first place pretty well ensures he would've made sure Whittaker didn't get the chance to show him up again.
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Hagler-Hearns.
World War II.;D
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rjj tszyu
First one that popped into my head as soon as i saw the title was SRL Vs Marvin Hagler. People still argue about the outcome of that one to this day. I personally think the judges got it right very close but W for Leonard.
Shame Hagler retired because Leonard was never as good again after that night and he was probably there for the marvelous one to take!
Yeah, I still think that leonard played a very smart game to win in the judges eyes rather than to 'beat' Marvin Hagler.
I think a focused Tyson would have been a favourite to beat a Buster Douglas who had already had his 'one in a million moment'
An Ali-Foreman rematch would have been very interesting, but I'm not sure Ali would have seen it that way.
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Vlad vs Corrie Sanders.
Lewis vs Vitali
Evander vs Tyson III
ODLH vs Whitaker
Wright vs Taylor
Toney vs Jirov
JMM vs Barrera
Hamed vs Kelly
ODLH vs Mayweather
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Vlad vs Corrie Sanders.
Lewis vs Vitali
Evander vs Tyson III
ODLH vs Whitaker
Wright vs Taylor
Toney vs Jirov
JMM vs Barrera
Hamed vs Kelly
ODLH vs Mayweather
wright vs taylor 2 shouldve def happen even tho i thought winky one the first fight
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Simon Brown - Vincent Pettway
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Great Rematches That Never Happened
How could these be greatest rematches if they never happened?
:headscratch::thinking2:
Next question!
;D
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Jones Hopkins. did we really need to wait 17 years for it?
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jon09
Vlad vs Corrie Sanders.
Lewis vs Vitali
Evander vs Tyson III
ODLH vs Whitaker
Wright vs Taylor
Toney vs Jirov
JMM vs Barrera
Hamed vs Kelly
ODLH vs Mayweather
What would of been the point of ODLH vs FMJ ?
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jon09
Vlad vs Corrie Sanders.
Lewis vs Vitali
Evander vs Tyson III
ODLH vs Whitaker
Wright vs Taylor
Toney vs Jirov
JMM vs Barrera
Hamed vs Kelly
ODLH vs Mayweather
What would of been the point of ODLH vs FMJ ?
The 1st fight was close enough and it might have had a different outcome if they fought again... Maybe.
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Vlad vs Corrie Sanders.
Lewis vs Vitali
Evander vs Tyson III
ODLH vs Whitaker
Wright vs Taylor
Toney vs Jirov
JMM vs Barrera
Hamed vs Kelly
ODLH vs Mayweather
What would of been the point of ODLH vs FMJ ?
The 1st fight was close enough and it might have had a different outcome if they fought again... Maybe.
It wasn't really that close i had it 7-4-1. I think most people now realize it wasn't that close. And FMJ would of got alot of flack for taking a rematch, for a fight he won clearly by atleast 3 rounds.
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THE THIRD MAN
DLH V Trinidad should have happened within 5 months of the first fight.
I have never fully understood why Hagler took his bat and ball and went home after the Leonard fight, he sulked, he complained, but did nothing about it in the ring with a rematch? Strange decision.
Foreman V Ali, this one puzzles me as Foreman was the huge favourite to win, surely a rematch was discussed or was George mentally scarred by Ali in the rumble?
Chavez V Whitaker is the most obvious, such a poor decision first time around.
Calzaghe V Hopkins!
Foreman-Ali II was headed towards that direction in early 1977. Foreman had taken a little over a year off after losing the title and sulked in disbelief and self denial as to what happened before beginning his comeback in early 1976. The loss to Jimmy Young derailed his comeback for another ten years. Still he did get his title back, 20 years after losing the title, still wearing the same trunks he wore when he lost to Ali.
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Jones Hopkins. did we really need to wait 17 years for it?
We didn't need 17 years but for some reason Hopkins kept derailing it with his attitude over money issues.
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Great Rematches That Never Happened
How could these be greatest rematches if they never happened?
:headscratch::thinking2:
Next question!
;D
That's the whole point, they could have been great had they happened
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As other pointed out, Chavez looms large in this category. Sweet Pea was denied a rematich, Taylor II occorred way after Taylor's prime, but the most painful one of all, IMO, was Frankie Randall.
Randall defeated Chavez convincingly the first time around and looked like he was on the verge of doing it again in the 2nd fight, ony to have the fight stopped (or Chavez's desire to stop fighting strangely honored) on cuts and somehow given to Chavez.
The third fight took place a billion years later and Randall had already lost a trillion times by then. He didn't have the name recognition for other big fights. the robbery in 2nd fight and effective denial of a rematch really was a cruel thing to do to the man.
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Hagler-Hearns II
Toney-Tiberi II
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As other pointed out, Chavez looms large in this category. Sweet Pea was denied a rematich, Taylor II occorred way after Taylor's prime, but the most painful one of all, IMO, was Frankie Randall.
Randall defeated Chavez convincingly the first time around and looked like he was on the verge of doing it again in the 2nd fight, ony to have the fight stopped (or Chavez's desire to stop fighting strangely honored) on cuts and somehow given to Chavez.
The third fight took place a billion years later and Randall had already lost a trillion times by then. He didn't have the name recognition for other big fights. the robbery in 2nd fight and effective denial of a rematch really was a cruel thing to do to the man.
Co sign.Have the utmost respect for Chavez and he made some nice adjustments in that 2nd go.But Randal was shaking off some hellacious body shots and touching Chavez more and more,I think the writing was on the wall and Chavez pulled a no mas.The 3rd 'fight' was all about stats and pride for JCC...and a pay check for a out of rehab Randall.Damn shame his demons got the better of him...Frankie was a superb fighter when on and 'right'.
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THE THIRD MAN
DLH V Trinidad should have happened within 5 months of the first fight.
I have never fully understood why Hagler took his bat and ball and went home after the Leonard fight, he sulked, he complained, but did nothing about it in the ring with a rematch? Strange decision.
Foreman V Ali, this one puzzles me as Foreman was the huge favourite to win, surely a rematch was discussed or was George mentally scarred by Ali in the rumble?
Chavez V Whitaker is the most obvious, such a poor decision first time around.
Calzaghe V Hopkins!
He begged Leonard for a year for a rematch but SRL wouldn't give him one.
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Zarate /Pintor 2 needed to happen,shame Zarate hung em up.
Barrera /Hamed. No not needed but another 12 rounds of that would have been great fun ;D
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Mike Weaver vs. John Tate because Weaver lost every round until John Tate lost focus in the fifteenth round at the last minute and became the ex heavyweight titlist.
Edwin Rosario vs. Hector Camacho. He was the one responsible for Macho's non involving style by hitting him so hard he stayed on his bicycle for the rest of his career. Rosario did win the lightweight title later.
George Foreman should have fought Ali his very next fight but then we may not have seen the nice guy that gave us that wonderful grill. Doug Jones should have had an instant rematch after losing by a point to Muhammad Ali.
George Foreman and Ron Lyle should have done it one more time because those five rounds were electrifying. Of course I still think Hagler could have walked over Ray Leonard in the rematch that never came to pass.
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Mosley/ Cotto rematch.
The first fight was closer than people give Mosley credit for. Cotto boxed brilliantley and used his jab like I had never seen him before and caught Mosley with shots that no other fighter had,but Mosley figured him out later in the fight and had him on the back foot.
A hard fight for me as they are both my favourite fighters but a rematch would of been a brilliant fight.
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Nunn v Toney
Castro v John David Jackson
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Master
Nunn v Toney
Castro v John David Jackson
John David Jackson did rematch Jorge Castro, he got beat again in a 10 rounder i believe.
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Nunn v Toney
Castro v John David Jackson
John David Jackson did rematch Jorge Castro, he got beat again in a 10 rounder i believe.
Yes you are right did not realise that!
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