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Vitali's camp said that DKP and Valuev's camp were STILL wanting too much and now the talks have been ended. Vitali is now looking perhaps at fighting ODLAINER SOLIS....that was kind of a surprise to me as I thought maybe an Oleg Maskaev "stay busy" fight would have made more sense if he was really wanting the fight vs the WBA title holder.
I doubt Solis has much to offer Vitali but you never know...hopefully Solis can come to fight at a decent weight for once though
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Originally Posted by Lyle
excellent news
Give me solis-klitschko over watching him whale on valuev for 12 rounds everyday of the week.
Solis is quick, has good footwork and most importantly for a heavyweight can bang
great news if true!!
why doesn't the big klit just wait a couple of weeks and then fight the WBA champ?
Shame, I would of liked to see Valuev stopped finally.
Don King is not daft he knows Vitali would destroy Valuev and if that did happen that would take a big dive for Valuev's stock.
Vitali-Solis another small man getting beat up joke fight, it will go similar to the Vitali-Peter fight.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
Have you actually seen solis fight
He is no flat footed sam peter
Id of preffered to of seen haye fight solis than ruiz
Solis is a fat fucker who stands at 6'1 I have seen Solis fight a few times. Vitali will beat him up pretty bad and it will like I said be similar to the Peter fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Have you actually seen solis fight
He is no flat footed sam peter
Id of preffered to of seen haye fight solis than ruiz
He is way to small for Vitali, who will tee of on him from the first bell, when this fight happens I will come back and give you the good old told you so when it happens ;)
I vote that we do put Don King, Panama Lewis with Warren, Sulaiman, Bob Lee Singer, Murrad Muhammad and Francisco Valcarcel that we cast them on a desert island forever.
Shouldn't we actually be thanking Don King that this fight won't happen? Honestly is there one person who was excited about this fight? I'm so done with Valuev I have NO desire to see him fight in a meaningful fight ever again.
I also agree that Don was in a bit of a bind with this fight because Valuev was going to lose to Vitali there is no doubt about that - and a second loss in a row, on the heels of what some people believe were gift decisions against John Ruiz and suddenly Valuev is completely valueless. If Don wants to keep banking money with Valuev he'll just throw some over matched has-beens into the ring with him in Germany and collect the gate.
Actually, would it only be to see Valuev getting floored and fighting somebody more or less his size, that would have worth it, especially in the optical that a lost would mean we for sure wouldn't see him in a rematch with Haye or Ruiz for another snoring fest in a close future.Quote:
Originally Posted by 411JRoche
Solis will be more competitive than Valuev. I agree he needs to focus on getting his weight under control though. To compare Solis to Peter is crazy.
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Where did I compare the two please show me??
I said the fight will be similar in the way it will go down, Vitali is to physically big for Solis and will have the jab in his face all night and not let Solis do anything " similar to the Peter fight "
IMO Vitali stops Solis within 6 rounds after giving him a similar beating to what Peter got.
This is what I was basing that on. Solis has a defensive skill set that all but guarantees it won't go the same as Vitali-Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
I will have any bet you want Vitali will beat the shit out of Solis, Solis is a fat Cruiserweight. Vitali big beat down.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThis is what I was basing that on. Solis has a defensive skill set that all but guarantees it won't go the same as Vitali-Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Agree with Skel: Vitali would beat Solis down worse than Arreola. I've said it before but Solis almost makes Arreola look trim. He is 6'1 and weighed more than 270 pounds for his last fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983I will have any bet you want Vitali will beat the shit out of Solis, Solis is a fat Cruiserweight. Vitali big beat down.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThis is what I was basing that on. Solis has a defensive skill set that all but guarantees it won't go the same as Vitali-Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Well if the fight happens I would be willing to do a sigi bet that Solis wins how about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983I will have any bet you want Vitali will beat the shit out of Solis, Solis is a fat Cruiserweight. Vitali big beat down.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThis is what I was basing that on. Solis has a defensive skill set that all but guarantees it won't go the same as Vitali-Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
I'm game for that Greg.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWell if the fight happens I would be willing to do a sigi bet that Solis wins how about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983I will have any bet you want Vitali will beat the shit out of Solis, Solis is a fat Cruiserweight. Vitali big beat down.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Solis is going to get his career ruined vs Vitali...his chin will be exposed, Solis really doesn't bang THAT hard, and being out of shape he's going to find it hard to last 8 much less the distance even if he can take Vitali's punches.
So Solis KO'd Monte Barrett in 2....WOW super neato because someone else took 5 rounds to stop him :rolleyes:. Odlainer couldn't even KO Julius Long...Vitali is going to just whoop him something bad
Solis will come in much better shape for Vitali, at this point I think it will be a matter of Vitali getting older rather than Solis being the better man. That's just my take, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong and put whatever embarressing thing skel wants me to put in my sigi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
It's been said by more fighters than it's been done by....Sam Peter, Cris Arreola....go ahead and add Solis to that list, NOT...GONNA....HAPPENQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
There comes a point in life where you just "give up" to a certain extent and for those three it's come mighty early in their careers and I don't see ANY of them getting down to 240 much less 230 (where all of them SHOULD BE)....either way it won't matter go ahead and mark it up as soon as the fight is signed Vitali TKO's Odlainer Solis in 5...I don't put much faith in Solis' chin either
even 250 would be better shape for Solis though, how much bigger can he get?Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleIt's been said by more fighters than it's been done by....Sam Peter, Cris Arreola....go ahead and add Solis to that list, NOT...GONNA....HAPPENQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
There comes a point in life where you just "give up" to a certain extent and for those three it's come mighty early in their careers and I don't see ANY of them getting down to 240 much less 230 (where all of them SHOULD BE)....either way it won't matter go ahead and mark it up as soon as the fight is signed Vitali TKO's Odlainer Solis in 5...I don't put much faith in Solis' chin either
Me neither, I mean we all know Haye can bang but in the ams with the big gloves and the head gear should he really be wobbling Solis the way he did if Solis had a good chin??Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleIt's been said by more fighters than it's been done by....Sam Peter, Cris Arreola....go ahead and add Solis to that list, NOT...GONNA....HAPPENQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
There comes a point in life where you just "give up" to a certain extent and for those three it's come mighty early in their careers and I don't see ANY of them getting down to 240 much less 230 (where all of them SHOULD BE)....either way it won't matter go ahead and mark it up as soon as the fight is signed Vitali TKO's Odlainer Solis in 5...I don't put much faith in Solis' chin either