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I know this is a fight that should have taken place at least 10 years ago but I am looking forward to it even though its going to be a bit like rubbernecking at the seen of a car crash.
I have never been a big Jones fan but I hope he can pull off the upset here coz Hopkins is an arrogant obnoxious big mouth with a chip on his shoulder.
Can anybody see Jones winning this?
Of course.
Hopkins is 45 and can at anytime get old overnight. Thats the only way i see Hopkins losing though.
If Hopkins does come in like against Ornelas or Pavlik, He will beat Roy and clearly.
Jones legs are awful at this point, he can't keep himself off the ropes for a full round which simply isn't gonna cut it against Hopkins. You need to pressure and outwork Hopkins to beat him.
Jones chin is also a concern, Green didn't appear to hit him very hard but he got dropped quite badly. Hopkins hasn't got the power Green does, but he is more accurate and fast. Lets not forget that Hopkins was able to drop the durable Calzaghe and stun Pavlik a couple of times so he probably could get Jones out of there.
Jones can win if he can turn the clock backward for one more time, otherwise it'll be a very disastrous result.
Hopkins will win by TKO. Kind of sad to see Jones go out like this. I give Jones about a 2% chance of winning this fight and I also think Jones is 2% of the fighter he used to be........
Absoloutely 0% chance
If you bet on anything other than hopkins on points you really dont know your stuff
I think he can. If he can handle Hopkins counters and avoid getting hurt he can outwork him for a decision. It's not all that likely, but it is possible. There's also the chance to Hopkins finally starts showing his age. I don't think Jones will win or even come close, but I won't write him off entirely.
I'd give him at least a 5% chance of winning based purely on the fact that HTH says he has no chance at all.
...who cares ?? It's insulting that this fight is even really happening. People complain about boxing and how the sport treats it's fans with all the sanctioning bodies, silly belts and what not yet there are those who still have any remote interest in a fight between a guy with a big mouth who can barley stay awake long enough to make a fight entertaining and has lost five of his last 10 most by ko and an boring semi impressive old fighter who out of his last 7 has lost three including a win over enrique ornales who isn't even the best fighter in his own family. And his case it's us that have the hard time staying awake. And the funniest thing of all they have the nerve to put this garbage on ppv ??? I'd pay to watch friday night fight on espn before i'd give this fight two dollars. As long as people support this type of crap how can anyone complain about what those in boxing do. People paying to see this are the main reason good fights aren't made and they can put any old card together they want why not people pay....guess i can't blame em in a way
If Hopkins sleeps under a draft the night before.
funny that sort of thing would bother you seeing how big of a Haye fan you are :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Jones gets stomped and stopped
Hopkins should win it easily. But I don't expect it to be a early kayo, sinnce B-Hop doesn't fight the way Green fights and I expect Roy to win at least 2 rounds. Anyways , Hopkins should cruise to a late round knockout
but wait....
Should Hopkins be fighting Green? I think so.
I agree Hopkins should be fighting Green, or if Jones felt he got cheated by the gloves or whatever do a rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
At any rate a casual boxing fan in America would have this conversation (and this is a guarantee)
Me: Hopkins is fighting Green on PPV
Casual Fan: Who's Green
Me: From Oz, been on a tear for a while just stopped RJJ in 1.
Casual Fan: Roy is still fighting?
Me: Yeah, you wanna come over and watch
Casual Fan: Naw just tell me the result later.
This is a shit fight, but you can't blame Hopkins for not fighting Green. Green somehow believed himself to be worth a 50/50 split in the US. Probably the worst 'price yourself out of a fight' move I've ever heard.
As for the question, of course Jones can win. But he almost certainly won't. As critical as I was of this, I now find myself kind of hoping to watch it. It's just as well it's not PPV over here, because I'm one of those saps who would watch it.
60-40% to Hopkins hope Roy can beat him though :) I have seen some of his training footage and he seems to be in grea shape
Current odds at William Hill
Hopkins -600 = 1/6
Jones +350 = 7/2
Yes I believe Roy can win.
He has to use his speed and combos to out work Hopkins from the outside and flurry when they get on the inside like he did against Lacy.
Also he must avoid the counter right hand of Hopkins, which Bernard will be setting him up for all night.
If he can do that then I think he can decision B-Hop.
He is STILL faster than Hopkins.
And Hopkins has not fought someone faster than him in a 5 years.
but Hopkins still has his timing, something Jones clearly doesn't as was evident against CalzagheQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I give Roy a 10% chance of winning.
Roys already made his bed. He will be off to sleep again.
No way no how Jones even has a chance to win this. His only hope at avoiding another brutal KAYO is if the fight gets canceled or if Hopkins slips on a banana peel on his way to the ring.
I hope Roy pulls the victory and B Hop will be vengeful, bitter and twisted for the rest of his life. :)
Hopkins could get DQed, I think that's Roy's best shot.
Absolutely, that is the best possible result. Jones has kind of muddled on through these past few years, but Hopkins really looked quite mediocre last time out himself. He has a chance in this and isn't facing a cruiserweight. It's an old Hopkins with a low output and a tendency to sleep for at least a few rounds in all of his fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Calzaghe was faster than Hopkins and that fight happened in April 08, less than 2 years ago. Hopkins was able to make a close fight out of it as well while Jones on the other hand................Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/20...es-defends.jpg
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008...lzaghe_580.jpg
:)
Jokes aside, Hopkins won't able to apply the pressure the Calzaghe did on Jones but Jones won't be able to apply the same pressure Calzaghe was able to do against Hopkins.
The difference is Jones legs are totally gone and his chin seems vulnerable and Hopkins power does seem to have decent power at 175.
I see the fight being competitive early but as the fight progresses, i see Jones going to the ropes more and more often which Hopkins will take advantage of. He won't go crazy like Joe did but he will pick his shots and eventually stop Jones on the ropes. It going the distance with Hopkins taking a clear UD wouldn't surprise me either, it's obviously more likely than a stoppage.
I love how Hopkins makes it sound like Jones last fight should not have been stopped and that Jones is still a top fighter........Hopkins must think the fans are complete idiots......I hope no one buys Jones/Hopkins.......
I don't think Jones can win, Hopkins is too well schooled. He'll probably give Jones a horrible beating!
Calzaghe was on cocaine so it doesn't count. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticCalzaghe was faster than Hopkins and that fight happened in April 08, less than 2 years ago. Hopkins was able to make a close fight out of it as well while Jones on the other hand................Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/20...es-defends.jpg
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008...lzaghe_580.jpg
:)
Jokes aside, Hopkins won't able to apply the pressure the Calzaghe did on Jones but Jones won't be able to apply the same pressure Calzaghe was able to do against Hopkins.
The difference is Jones legs are totally gone and his chin seems vulnerable and Hopkins power does seem to have decent power at 175.
I see the fight being competitive early but as the fight progresses, i see Jones going to the ropes more and more often which Hopkins will take advantage of. He won't go crazy like Joe did but he will pick his shots and eventually stop Jones on the ropes. It going the distance with Hopkins taking a clear UD wouldn't surprise me either, it's obviously more likely than a stoppage.
I think Jones has a chance.
I'm a huge fan of both though.
May the best man win.
I'll be rootin for Roy, cus he is the underdog.
haha good point. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkCalzaghe was on cocaine so it doesn't count. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticCalzaghe was faster than Hopkins and that fight happened in April 08, less than 2 years ago. Hopkins was able to make a close fight out of it as well while Jones on the other hand................Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/20...es-defends.jpg
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008...lzaghe_580.jpg
:)
Jokes aside, Hopkins won't able to apply the pressure the Calzaghe did on Jones but Jones won't be able to apply the same pressure Calzaghe was able to do against Hopkins.
The difference is Jones legs are totally gone and his chin seems vulnerable and Hopkins power does seem to have decent power at 175.
I see the fight being competitive early but as the fight progresses, i see Jones going to the ropes more and more often which Hopkins will take advantage of. He won't go crazy like Joe did but he will pick his shots and eventually stop Jones on the ropes. It going the distance with Hopkins taking a clear UD wouldn't surprise me either, it's obviously more likely than a stoppage.
I think Jones has a chance.
I'm a huge fan of both though.
May the best man win.
I'll be rootin for Roy, cus he is the underdog.
Joe's wins should all be changed to no contests. :)
Yeah, he needs to get a whack in the chops "ooo........ow" and fall on the floor waiting for another shot to rain in. Then he can spasm his way to a victory.
Jones is already making excuses about a forthcoming loss by saying that Hopkins has waited this long to fight him. I don't see a confident Jones Jr., just a washed-up fighter who will probably get KO'd by Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Not a freaking chance!
Difference is, Haye is a funny guy. Hopkins aint.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesfunny that sort of thing would bother you seeing how big of a Haye fan you are :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Can't they settle this over a round of golf? There's plenty of young talent out there waiting to get their shot.
Since when? Haye is an idiot. How good of a fighter he is at HW remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTMattyDifference is, Haye is a funny guy. Hopkins aint.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesfunny that sort of thing would bother you seeing how big of a Haye fan you are :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
but time has passed..an unnecessary fight between this two is going to happen..if it happened 5-7 years ago, it would have been one of the richest and historic bouts in history:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
I will keep my fingers crossed for Roy. However my brain tells me: Hopkins will probably win.
I don't think Roy can win the fight at this point. But I can tell you what, this fight is gonna fucking SUCK. B-Hop simply can not sustain a high punch output anymore and has to hug & grapple after each punch to sustain his energy level. If RJJ was cautious with Trinidad, you can bet that he'll be even more cautious against B-Hop. And the one thing RJJ will never allow, is to get knocked out by B-Hop, I don't think RJJ would EVER want to give B-Hop the satisfaction. So expect 12 rounds of RJJ and B-Hop taunting each other, grappling, and doing nothing much more than jabbing with an occasional power punch. This is simply a cash grab and I will not be buying the fight.
Idiots can be funny guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHSince when? Haye is an idiot. How good of a fighter he is at HW remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTMattyDifference is, Haye is a funny guy. Hopkins aint.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I agree with you...Jones used to be my favorite fighter. And the sad part is, even if he gets destroyed, he will fight again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
I was actually picking Roy to win this after the Lacy fight. I thought his speed and movement would be enough to take a close decision but after the Green fight it would be stupid to bet against Hopkins. Apparently Jones has worked on power to try and get a KO. I dont think he has the confidence in his own cardio so he is banking on taking Hop out. Bad idea IMO. His best chance was to be the quicker guy and let his shots go in combos. Still look forward to this fight and wish it was on PPV over here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYz5nJ_g_xE
Point taken, but I do not find Haye funny at all. I understand why he acts the way he does, but it just comes off as arrogant and childish IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterIdiots can be funny guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHSince when? Haye is an idiot. How good of a fighter he is at HW remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTMatty