What/who next for Danny Green?

I started a thread with this title after DG beat RJJ. I explained how I thought DG's anihalation of RJJ would actually hinder any progress he could make on the world stage as he was a high risk/low reward fighter to fight outside of Australia.

There were mixed answers on that particular thread with some saying DG's stock are as high as ever now and that big fights would come his way.

That was 5months ago, and DG's next "big fight" after Roy was a tough travelling x world champ in Manny Siaca. And after these credentials I still wouldn't classify this bout as a "big fight".

DG destroyed him in 3 rounds, so again I have to ask you guys out there what next for DG?! I'd imagine B-Hop is well and truly out of the picture and won't want any of Green, but the commentators down here still seem to think that DG will get some big fights in the cruiserweight division around the world! I'm not too sure, for one I can't think of any big name that will step up to fight him, and DG doesn't like to travel as he feels he is worth every penny here is Australia. My guess here is DG will still chase a rematch with Anthony Mudnine as this is his best option financially and probly his best opportunity to avenge his 2006 loss to "The Man".


On a side note, alot had been made about Roy's allegations about DG's hand warps and most of it was put towards Roy being a bad loser. It was even brought up here as a thread. And though most of us do tend to feel that Roy was just making more excuses for the loss someone pointed out that after fights, while almost every boxer takes their gloves off immediately after fights, DG and others who may have loaded gloves (eg. Margarito) keep them on. I never noticed this observation till looking back at some of DG's fights and even tonight, while Siaca's gloves were being removed in the ring immediately after the fight DG kepts his on, and kept it on right through post fight interviews, photoshoots etc.

Whatta u fink guys, who nest for DG and are his gloves loaded or is he using illegal had wrapping tape?

A half decent dawson, pascal, diaconu etc takes him to school

But unfortunately those top calibre fighters won't get to beat Green's ass up! Tbh man, I just want sum1 2 beat him up coz he finks he's the baddest man on the planet right now!!!

Alf Roberts at either the Surf Club or down Yabby Creek.

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Originally Posted by Themantonio

I started a thread with this title after DG beat RJJ. I explained how I thought DG's anihalation of RJJ would actually hinder any progress he could make on the world stage as he was a high risk/low reward fighter to fight outside of Australia.

There were mixed answers on that particular thread with some saying DG's stock are as high as ever now and that big fights would come his way.

That was 5months ago, and DG's next "big fight" after Roy was a tough travelling x world champ in Manny Siaca. And after these credentials I still wouldn't classify this bout as a "big fight".

DG destroyed him in 3 rounds, so again I have to ask you guys out there what next for DG?! I'd imagine B-Hop is well and truly out of the picture and won't want any of Green, but the commentators down here still seem to think that DG will get some big fights in the cruiserweight division around the world! I'm not too sure, for one I can't think of any big name that will step up to fight him, and DG doesn't like to travel as he feels he is worth every penny here is Australia. My guess here is DG will still chase a rematch with Anthony Mudnine as this is his best option financially and probly his best opportunity to avenge his 2006 loss to "The Man".


On a side note, alot had been made about Roy's allegations about DG's hand warps and most of it was put towards Roy being a bad loser. It was even brought up here as a thread. And though most of us do tend to feel that Roy was just making more excuses for the loss someone pointed out that after fights, while almost every boxer takes their gloves off immediately after fights, DG and others who may have loaded gloves (eg. Margarito) keep them on. I never noticed this observation till looking back at some of DG's fights and even tonight, while Siaca's gloves were being removed in the ring immediately after the fight DG kepts his on, and kept it on right through post fight interviews, photoshoots etc.

Whatta u fink guys, who nest for DG and are his gloves loaded or is he using illegal had wrapping tape?

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First off, Danny Green is MUCH more marketable now post Roy Jones KO than he was before. He's not a high risk, low reward fighter, he's a reasonable name guy who will be able to cash in on the win soon enough.

The reason he has had to have a low key fight is because he fights in a division devoid of big names, and those that are there are fighting each other or don't want to fight at that weight.

B Hop for example wanted Roy Jones win or lose, Green certainly wasn't on his radar at all before the Jones KO and he's not too keen to fight him now, although it's probably several hundred times more likely than if he had not faced Jones. But Hopkins clearly wants to hand pick his opponents according to his own plans and Green is unlikely to be part of them.

Aside from BHop there are only two significant names at 175, Chad Dawson and Jean Pascal, and they are both scheduled to fight each other.

Provided Green doesn't lose beforehand the chances are very high that eventually one of them will look his way, he'll get a big fight out of it providing he wants it and doesn't slip up in the meantime.

But the idea that beating Jones will prove a stumbling block to a career that he had already retired from is just silly. Prior to Jones the most famous name on his record is a defeat to Antony Mundine, and then two more defeats to Markus Beyer.

He was a virtual unknown outside of Australia and on nobody's radar. Now he's at least emitting a faint beep.

Finally big fights don't always happen overnight, Calzaghe became a star when he demolished Jeff Lacy, but followed up that win with a fight against the then unknown Sakio Bika, and the reality star Peter Manfredo.

But his big fight future was still assured, he just had to wait for the time when he got in the ring with Kessler, Jones and Hopkins.

Green, if he keeps winning, and doesn't retire will get his shot, and it will be because he knocked out Roy Jones.

He needs to get over to the States and base himself there for at least 6 months, no point hanging around Perth going to the football and hoping the phone rings with an offer. He needs to lift his profile in the USA and that means 2 or 3 fights in succession quickly. He isn't getting any younger, he should fight again mid June or July at the latest in the US with the idea of fighting for a major title by the end of the year. He weighed 180lbs v Siaca, can he still make 175lb? Green has fought only 4 rounds in less than a year, time is his enemy and fighting bums like Siaca will get him nowhere.
Forget Mundine, he is a washed up nobody and is now powderpuffing at 154-160lb so it's the US or bust for Danny Green.

Why not Sakio Bika ?

Or maybe a comebacking Paul Briggs ?

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Why not Sakio Bika ?

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I think they'd be 2 credible opponents. Alhough its a bg step up in weight for Bika.

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Alf Roberts at either the Surf Club or down Yabby Creek.

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its Alf Stewart " you great big flaming galah " !!!!!

Not sure about green, but since siaca lost to him doesn't that qualify him for a shot at a major fight on ppv. Isn't that the way it goes ?? Or do you have to get ko'ed in the first the justify that....

if he plans on staying at Cruiserweight, the only big fight there is Cunnigham, and well i think he gets beat, but well he could always drop to light heavy and see how that goes

Green vs Cloud would be a thriller.

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I thought he was at cruiserweight?

Cunningham is the man in that division. Green is a name now. Get it on.

Danny has to call out B Hop and go to the USA to do it otherwise stay in Aus and have meaningless fights and retire rich.

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Alf Roberts at either the Surf Club or down Yabby Creek.

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its Alf Stewart " you great big flaming galah " !!!!!

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Hahaha where the fuck did I get that from?

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Green vs Cloud would be a thriller.

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would it be??

I just see tarvoris giving him a clinton woods esque beatdown

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Why not Sakio Bika ?

Or maybe a comebacking Paul Briggs ?

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Would love to see Briggs and Green if Briggs hasnt lost anything from being in retirement. But seriously fighting Siaca was more about fighting a guy that beat Mundine yrs ago then it was about being a real challenge yet Green talked it up like Siaca was a great fighter. Some guys were telling me at the pub that Green is unbeatable coz he knocked out a prime RJ (dont think they know what prime means) and Siaca (in there words, another great fighter). Fuck i hate casual boxing fans, they tell you everything and say your wrong but cant name a single boxer in the weight division unless its an aussie and sometimes they cant even name an aussie and then claim to know it all.

Holyfield in Australia. Evander needs the money and won't get a bigger payday anywhere else. Even if Green lloses it isn't all bad, he lost to a heavyweight legend and he can always move back down to cruiser a lot richer. Green has mojo now in Australia and that fight could sell a big stadium out, or am I wrong Aussies?

Roy Jones Jr has a rematch clause with Danny Green, and before the Hopkins fight said that after Hopkins he wanted to fight Green again, as Jones didn't like how it went down when they fought the first time.

Frankly, a lot of people seem to want to believe that Jones is shot, but I thought Jones looked good against Hopkins. Hopkins was fouling Jones all night, and Jones dropped Hopkins with a double left hook to the belt-line that pretty much knocked Hopkins out. Hopkins was lucky that wasn't ruled a knockdown because he was in serious trouble.

I think Green should fight Roy Jones in America under US boxing rules, so there is no hand wraps issue and the best man wins. (I'm not saying Green cheated, I simply don't know whether he did or not but it was kinda shady from how it sounded)

If Green wins, that could set him up for another big fight in America. If Jones wins, he would shake the stigma of his defeat to Green and would make people take another look at the Jones Hopkins fight and realize that Jones was more impressive than Hopkins.

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Roy Jones Jr has a rematch clause with Danny Green, and before the Hopkins fight said that after Hopkins he wanted to fight Green again, as Jones didn't like how it went down when they fought the first time.

Frankly, a lot of people seem to want to believe that Jones is shot, but I thought Jones looked good against Hopkins. Hopkins was fouling Jones all night, and Jones dropped Hopkins with a double left hook to the belt-line that pretty much knocked Hopkins out. Hopkins was lucky that wasn't ruled a knockdown because he was in serious trouble.

I think Green should fight Roy Jones in America under US boxing rules, so there is no hand wraps issue and the best man wins. (I'm not saying Green cheated, I simply don't know whether he did or not but it was kinda shady from how it sounded)

If Green wins, that could set him up for another big fight in America. If Jones wins, he would shake the stigma of his defeat to Green and would make people take another look at the Jones Hopkins fight and realize that Jones was more impressive than Hopkins.

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:appl:Man I totally respect and dig that post! Well said...

Id like to see him fight David Haye or Adamek at Heavyweight as they are both former cruiserweights so the size difference wouldnt be that much.

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:appl:Man I totally respect and dig that post! Well said...

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Thanks for the comment. I think it's amazing that people reward the type of dirty fighting that Hopkins showed against Jones and don't even want to give Jones any credit for his fight against Hopkins. Yeah Jones has lost a step, no question about it, but Jones is still a tremendous athelete and turned back the clock during some of the later rounds against Hopkins. I had the fight 114-110 for Jones. Golden Boy influenced the judges. They gave Hopkins a 10-9 5th round when Hopkins had blatant fouls including a intentional punch to the nuts that should have been a clear point deduction. Jones should have won that round 10-8 as he landed clearly the better punches in that round.

I haven't heard anything from Jones since the Hopkins fight, but he's probably trying to decide whether he wants to take another shot at Green or whether he wants to take some time off. I think Jones still has it in him to have one or two more great performances, but whether it's psychological, whether it's media-influenced that people think he doesn't have it anymore, Roy is probably a bit on the fence.

You guys think Roy will fight again? Isn't Hopkins like the #4 P4P guy, and Jones fought a very close fight against him. Hopkins challenged David Haye, but then Haye said he won't fight Hopkins. (probably after Haye watched the way Hopkins fought Jones and was disgraced by the amount of rabbit punches, low blows, and headbutts by Hopkins) Now apparently Hopkins is calling out Bute and is willing to cut 7 points to get down to 168?

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:appl:Man I totally respect and dig that post! Well said...

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Thanks for the comment. I think it's amazing that people reward the type of dirty fighting that Hopkins showed against Jones and don't even want to give Jones any credit for his fight against Hopkins. Yeah Jones has lost a step, no question about it, but Jones is still a tremendous athelete and turned back the clock during some of the later rounds against Hopkins. I had the fight 114-110 for Jones. Golden Boy influenced the judges. They gave Hopkins a 10-9 5th round when Hopkins had blatant fouls including a intentional punch to the nuts that should have been a clear point deduction. Jones should have won that round 10-8 as he landed clearly the better punches in that round.

I haven't heard anything from Jones since the Hopkins fight, but he's probably trying to decide whether he wants to take another shot at Green or whether he wants to take some time off. I think Jones still has it in him to have one or two more great performances, but whether it's psychological, whether it's media-influenced that people think he doesn't have it anymore, Roy is probably a bit on the fence.

You guys think Roy will fight again? Isn't Hopkins like the #4 P4P guy, and Jones fought a very close fight against him. Hopkins challenged David Haye, but then Haye said he won't fight Hopkins. (probably after Haye watched the way Hopkins fought Jones and was disgraced by the amount of rabbit punches, low blows, and headbutts by Hopkins) Now apparently Hopkins is calling out Bute and is willing to cut 7 points to get down to 168?

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:appl:Man I totally respect and dig that post! Well said...

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Thanks for the comment. I think it's amazing that people reward the type of dirty fighting that Hopkins showed against Jones and don't even want to give Jones any credit for his fight against Hopkins. Yeah Jones has lost a step, no question about it, but Jones is still a tremendous athelete and turned back the clock during some of the later rounds against Hopkins. I had the fight 114-110 for Jones. Golden Boy influenced the judges. They gave Hopkins a 10-9 5th round when Hopkins had blatant fouls including a intentional punch to the nuts that should have been a clear point deduction. Jones should have won that round 10-8 as he landed clearly the better punches in that round.

I haven't heard anything from Jones since the Hopkins fight, but he's probably trying to decide whether he wants to take another shot at Green or whether he wants to take some time off. I think Jones still has it in him to have one or two more great performances, but whether it's psychological, whether it's media-influenced that people think he doesn't have it anymore, Roy is probably a bit on the fence.

You guys think Roy will fight again? Isn't Hopkins like the #4 P4P guy, and Jones fought a very close fight against him. Hopkins challenged David Haye, but then Haye said he won't fight Hopkins. (probably after Haye watched the way Hopkins fought Jones and was disgraced by the amount of rabbit punches, low blows, and headbutts by Hopkins) Now apparently Hopkins is calling out Bute and is willing to cut 7 points to get down to 168?

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guess this guy buys his crack from the same guy that Roger goes to

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guess this guy buys his crack from the same guy that Roger goes to

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Haha! That's fine but I can assure you I don't smoke crack and never had in the past! How did you score it?

Hopkins was fouling from the opening bell. He should have gotten points deducted for all the headbutts and low blows, not to mention the rabbit punches. I factor these point deductions when I score the fight. RJJ got a point deducted in the 6th round when Hopkins was leading with the head, and was holding on to Roy Jones Jr's hand. Jones's foul wasn't nearly as bad as Hopkins's fouls and Hopkins created the situation that led to the foul.

So as much as you want to make it sound like I am crazy for scoring the fight to Jones, if you look at the blatant fouls that Hopkins had, and the clean punching that Jones had throughout the fight, it's not crazy at all to score it for Jones.

Watch it again ElTerribleMorales. Many of those rounds were close, and depending on how you viewed it could have gone either way. Who is Morales going to fight next?

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guess this guy buys his crack from the same guy that Roger goes to

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Haha! That's fine but I can assure you I don't smoke crack and never had in the past! How did you score it?

Hopkins was fouling from the opening bell. He should have gotten points deducted for all the headbutts and low blows, not to mention the rabbit punches. I factor these point deductions when I score the fight. RJJ got a point deducted in the 6th round when Hopkins was leading with the head, and was holding on to Roy Jones Jr's hand. Jones's foul wasn't nearly as bad as Hopkins's fouls and Hopkins created the situation that led to the foul.

So as much as you want to make it sound like I am crazy for scoring the fight to Jones, if you look at the blatant fouls that Hopkins had, and the clean punching that Jones had throughout the fight, it's not crazy at all to score it for Jones.

Watch it again ElTerribleMorales. Many of those rounds were close, and depending on how you viewed it could have gone either way. Who is Morales going to fight next?

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i had Hopkins winning it basically like 8-4 plus the extra point for the deduction against Jones in the 6th, sorry i'm no ref to be taking away points on my card as i please, Hopkins won the fight, even if he didn't look good at all in doing so, both guys sucked ass that night and both should retire, in no way did Jones turn back the clock

and as for Morales, i don't know who he's fighting next, all i know is that he should just go back and retire

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guess this guy buys his crack from the same guy that Roger goes to

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Haha! That's fine but I can assure you I don't smoke crack and never had in the past! How did you score it?

Hopkins was fouling from the opening bell. He should have gotten points deducted for all the headbutts and low blows, not to mention the rabbit punches. I factor these point deductions when I score the fight. RJJ got a point deducted in the 6th round when Hopkins was leading with the head, and was holding on to Roy Jones Jr's hand. Jones's foul wasn't nearly as bad as Hopkins's fouls and Hopkins created the situation that led to the foul.

So as much as you want to make it sound like I am crazy for scoring the fight to Jones, if you look at the blatant fouls that Hopkins had, and the clean punching that Jones had throughout the fight, it's not crazy at all to score it for Jones.

Watch it again ElTerribleMorales. Many of those rounds were close, and depending on how you viewed it could have gone either way. Who is Morales going to fight next?

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i had Hopkins winning it basically like 8-4 plus the extra point for the deduction against Jones in the 6th, sorry i'm no ref to be taking away points on my card as i please, Hopkins won the fight, even if he didn't look good at all in doing so, both guys sucked ass that night and both should retire, in no way did Jones turn back the clock

and as for Morales, i don't know who he's fighting next, all i know is that he should just go back and retire

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haha it's always a good start when on only their second post they get accused of being on crack.

Should be a good addition to the boards, nice to have people to disagree with.

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Roy Jones Jr has a rematch clause with Danny Green, and before the Hopkins fight said that after Hopkins he wanted to fight Green again, as Jones didn't like how it went down when they fought the first time.

Frankly, a lot of people seem to want to believe that Jones is shot, but I thought Jones looked good against Hopkins. Hopkins was fouling Jones all night, and Jones dropped Hopkins with a double left hook to the belt-line that pretty much knocked Hopkins out. Hopkins was lucky that wasn't ruled a knockdown because he was in serious trouble.

I think Green should fight Roy Jones in America under US boxing rules, so there is no hand wraps issue and the best man wins. (I'm not saying Green cheated, I simply don't know whether he did or not but it was kinda shady from how it sounded)

If Green wins, that could set him up for another big fight in America. If Jones wins, he would shake the stigma of his defeat to Green and would make people take another look at the Jones Hopkins fight and realize that Jones was more impressive than Hopkins.

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Welcome to the forum.

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haha it's always a good start when on only their second post they get accused of being on crack.

Should be a good addition to the boards, nice to have people to disagree with.

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Well I don't take it too personally beacuse I know that most casual boxing fans have given up on Roy Jones. So anyone giving credit to Roy Jones will probably be accused of being on crack. But, even on this very forum and other forums like eastside boxing, there were more than a few that thought Jones still got the best of Hopkins.

Regardless of what you think about who won, I think you gotta give credit to Roy Jones for fighting a cleaner fight and landing some great punches in the middle and late rounds. The fight itself wasn't a classic or an all time great, but I did think you could take a lot away from that fight from what actually happened. (you know by watching it round by round, with the commentary off)

I have no problem if people disagree with my view, but it would serve them well to explain why rather than just dismissing the argument altogether.

In the RJJ - BHop fight, the proof is really in the pudding. Hopkins threw more punches, Hopkins fouled more, Hopkins tied Jones up more. But at the end of the day, Jones was the one who landed the more flashy punches and did the more creative work in there. And as a boxing fan watching a fight between two legends, I think you gotta appreciate that. It wasn't just a trash fight. It was a pretty incredible match considering the age of the fighters. It was much more entertaining and competitive than Pacquiao - Clottey, which was a snooze fest at best. I would go as far to say that Jones - Hopkins was more exciting than Pacquiao - Clottey, Pavlik - Martinez, and Bute - Miranda. And most people just want to dismiss it as insignificant and uncompetitive, when in reality it was much more than that.

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Hey thanks buddy. Glad to be here. Look forward to some intelligent discussions.

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haha it's always a good start when on only their second post they get accused of being on crack.

Should be a good addition to the boards, nice to have people to disagree with.

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Well I don't take it too personally beacuse I know that most casual boxing fans have given up on Roy Jones. So anyone giving credit to Roy Jones will probably be accused of being on crack. But, even on this very forum and other forums like eastside boxing, there were more than a few that thought Jones still got the best of Hopkins.

Regardless of what you think about who won, I think you gotta give credit to Roy Jones for fighting a cleaner fight and landing some great punches in the middle and late rounds. The fight itself wasn't a classic or an all time great, but I did think you could take a lot away from that fight from what actually happened. (you know by watching it round by round, with the commentary off)

I have no problem if people disagree with my view, but it would serve them well to explain why rather than just dismissing the argument altogether.

In the RJJ - BHop fight, the proof is really in the pudding. Hopkins threw more punches, Hopkins fouled more, Hopkins tied Jones up more. But at the end of the day, Jones was the one who landed the more flashy punches and did the more creative work in there. And as a boxing fan watching a fight between two legends, I think you gotta appreciate that. It wasn't just a trash fight. It was a pretty incredible match considering the age of the fighters. It was much more entertaining and competitive than Pacquiao - Clottey, which was a snooze fest at best. I would go as far to say that Jones - Hopkins was more exciting than Pacquiao - Clottey, Pavlik - Martinez, and Bute - Miranda. And most people just want to dismiss it as insignificant and uncompetitive, when in reality it was much more than that.

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if anything it showed that Hopkins is finally on the slide, not that Jones is still world class

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But unfortunately those top calibre fighters won't get to beat Green's ass up! Tbh man, I just want sum1 2 beat him up coz he finks he's the baddest man on the planet right now!!!

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You're kidding right?? You do know Green comes from the same country as Anthony, i'm the baddest man on the planet, Mundine??

At least Green has got a decent fight on his resume without getting himself KO'd in the process...

Unfortunately he won't get a really big fight, and would probably lose if he did... But I don't think he's full of himself or deserves a beating..


As for the hand wraps, I have no idea, but Jones is a fragile man these days, physical wise, so that KO isn't evidence enough for illegal taping,,,, neither is leaving the gloves on for a while after the fight... Of course, their are due checks in place before a fight to catch out fighters cheating... If those checks fail, it's as much the fault of boxing/referee's as it is the fighter for sticking hard shit into his wraps..

Benefit of the doubt I say..

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Why not Sakio Bika ?

Or maybe a comebacking Paul Briggs ?

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Would love to see Briggs and Green if Briggs hasnt lost anything from being in retirement. But seriously fighting Siaca was more about fighting a guy that beat Mundine yrs ago then it was about being a real challenge yet Green talked it up like Siaca was a great fighter. Some guys were telling me at the pub that Green is unbeatable coz he knocked out a prime RJ (dont think they know what prime means) and Siaca (in there words, another great fighter). Fuck i hate casual boxing fans, they tell you everything and say your wrong but cant name a single boxer in the weight division unless its an aussie and sometimes they cant even name an aussie and then claim to know it all.

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On a similar note the Australian commentators were pretty embarrasing on the Jones - Green fight. They said something like 'if you beat a legend you become a legend! and were talking as if Jones was still p4p number 1. No wonder the guys down the pub have such a messed up view.

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Why not Sakio Bika ?

Or maybe a comebacking Paul Briggs ?

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Would love to see Briggs and Green if Briggs hasnt lost anything from being in retirement. But seriously fighting Siaca was more about fighting a guy that beat Mundine yrs ago then it was about being a real challenge yet Green talked it up like Siaca was a great fighter. Some guys were telling me at the pub that Green is unbeatable coz he knocked out a prime RJ (dont think they know what prime means) and Siaca (in there words, another great fighter). Fuck i hate casual boxing fans, they tell you everything and say your wrong but cant name a single boxer in the weight division unless its an aussie and sometimes they cant even name an aussie and then claim to know it all.

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On a similar note the Australian commentators were pretty embarrasing on the Jones - Green fight. They said something like 'if you beat a legend you become a legend! and were talking as if Jones was still p4p number 1. No wonder the guys down the pub have such a messed up view.

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Yeah the aussie commentators were disgraceful for that fight. I was at that fight live and then watched the replay on the news in the morning and couldnt believe they said you beat a legend you become one, nothin but hype talk. At the moment there is only two aussies I will pay to watch and they are vic darchinyan and Michael Katsidis coz they fight the best and the rest of them fight nobodies and I wont pay for that shit.