What/who next for Danny Green?

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Man I totally respect and dig that post! Well said...

Thanks for the comment. I think it's amazing that people reward the type of dirty fighting that Hopkins showed against Jones and don't even want to give Jones any credit for his fight against Hopkins. Yeah Jones has lost a step, no question about it, but Jones is still a tremendous athelete and turned back the clock during some of the later rounds against Hopkins. I had the fight 114-110 for Jones. Golden Boy influenced the judges. They gave Hopkins a 10-9 5th round when Hopkins had blatant fouls including a intentional punch to the nuts that should have been a clear point deduction. Jones should have won that round 10-8 as he landed clearly the better punches in that round.

I haven't heard anything from Jones since the Hopkins fight, but he's probably trying to decide whether he wants to take another shot at Green or whether he wants to take some time off. I think Jones still has it in him to have one or two more great performances, but whether it's psychological, whether it's media-influenced that people think he doesn't have it anymore, Roy is probably a bit on the fence.

You guys think Roy will fight again? Isn't Hopkins like the #4 P4P guy, and Jones fought a very close fight against him. Hopkins challenged David Haye, but then Haye said he won't fight Hopkins. (probably after Haye watched the way Hopkins fought Jones and was disgraced by the amount of rabbit punches, low blows, and headbutts by Hopkins) Now apparently Hopkins is calling out Bute and is willing to cut 7 points to get down to 168?

[Kev]

Man I totally respect and dig that post! Well said...

Thanks for the comment. I think it's amazing that people reward the type of dirty fighting that Hopkins showed against Jones and don't even want to give Jones any credit for his fight against Hopkins. Yeah Jones has lost a step, no question about it, but Jones is still a tremendous athelete and turned back the clock during some of the later rounds against Hopkins. I had the fight 114-110 for Jones. Golden Boy influenced the judges. They gave Hopkins a 10-9 5th round when Hopkins had blatant fouls including a intentional punch to the nuts that should have been a clear point deduction. Jones should have won that round 10-8 as he landed clearly the better punches in that round.

I haven't heard anything from Jones since the Hopkins fight, but he's probably trying to decide whether he wants to take another shot at Green or whether he wants to take some time off. I think Jones still has it in him to have one or two more great performances, but whether it's psychological, whether it's media-influenced that people think he doesn't have it anymore, Roy is probably a bit on the fence.

You guys think Roy will fight again? Isn't Hopkins like the #4 P4P guy, and Jones fought a very close fight against him. Hopkins challenged David Haye, but then Haye said he won't fight Hopkins. (probably after Haye watched the way Hopkins fought Jones and was disgraced by the amount of rabbit punches, low blows, and headbutts by Hopkins) Now apparently Hopkins is calling out Bute and is willing to cut 7 points to get down to 168?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Man I totally respect and dig that post! Well said...

Thanks for the comment. I think it's amazing that people reward the type of dirty fighting that Hopkins showed against Jones and don't even want to give Jones any credit for his fight against Hopkins. Yeah Jones has lost a step, no question about it, but Jones is still a tremendous athelete and turned back the clock during some of the later rounds against Hopkins. I had the fight 114-110 for Jones. Golden Boy influenced the judges. They gave Hopkins a 10-9 5th round when Hopkins had blatant fouls including a intentional punch to the nuts that should have been a clear point deduction. Jones should have won that round 10-8 as he landed clearly the better punches in that round.

I haven't heard anything from Jones since the Hopkins fight, but he's probably trying to decide whether he wants to take another shot at Green or whether he wants to take some time off. I think Jones still has it in him to have one or two more great performances, but whether it's psychological, whether it's media-influenced that people think he doesn't have it anymore, Roy is probably a bit on the fence.

You guys think Roy will fight again? Isn't Hopkins like the #4 P4P guy, and Jones fought a very close fight against him. Hopkins challenged David Haye, but then Haye said he won't fight Hopkins. (probably after Haye watched the way Hopkins fought Jones and was disgraced by the amount of rabbit punches, low blows, and headbutts by Hopkins) Now apparently Hopkins is calling out Bute and is willing to cut 7 points to get down to 168?

guess this guy buys his crack from the same guy that Roger goes to

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guess this guy buys his crack from the same guy that Roger goes to

Haha! That's fine but I can assure you I don't smoke crack and never had in the past! How did you score it?

Hopkins was fouling from the opening bell. He should have gotten points deducted for all the headbutts and low blows, not to mention the rabbit punches. I factor these point deductions when I score the fight. RJJ got a point deducted in the 6th round when Hopkins was leading with the head, and was holding on to Roy Jones Jr's hand. Jones's foul wasn't nearly as bad as Hopkins's fouls and Hopkins created the situation that led to the foul.

So as much as you want to make it sound like I am crazy for scoring the fight to Jones, if you look at the blatant fouls that Hopkins had, and the clean punching that Jones had throughout the fight, it's not crazy at all to score it for Jones.

Watch it again ElTerribleMorales. Many of those rounds were close, and depending on how you viewed it could have gone either way. Who is Morales going to fight next?

[ElTerribleMorales]

guess this guy buys his crack from the same guy that Roger goes to

Haha! That's fine but I can assure you I don't smoke crack and never had in the past! How did you score it?

Hopkins was fouling from the opening bell. He should have gotten points deducted for all the headbutts and low blows, not to mention the rabbit punches. I factor these point deductions when I score the fight. RJJ got a point deducted in the 6th round when Hopkins was leading with the head, and was holding on to Roy Jones Jr's hand. Jones's foul wasn't nearly as bad as Hopkins's fouls and Hopkins created the situation that led to the foul.

So as much as you want to make it sound like I am crazy for scoring the fight to Jones, if you look at the blatant fouls that Hopkins had, and the clean punching that Jones had throughout the fight, it's not crazy at all to score it for Jones.

Watch it again ElTerribleMorales. Many of those rounds were close, and depending on how you viewed it could have gone either way. Who is Morales going to fight next?

i had Hopkins winning it basically like 8-4 plus the extra point for the deduction against Jones in the 6th, sorry i'm no ref to be taking away points on my card as i please, Hopkins won the fight, even if he didn't look good at all in doing so, both guys sucked ass that night and both should retire, in no way did Jones turn back the clock

and as for Morales, i don't know who he's fighting next, all i know is that he should just go back and retire

[Kev]

guess this guy buys his crack from the same guy that Roger goes to

Haha! That's fine but I can assure you I don't smoke crack and never had in the past! How did you score it?

Hopkins was fouling from the opening bell. He should have gotten points deducted for all the headbutts and low blows, not to mention the rabbit punches. I factor these point deductions when I score the fight. RJJ got a point deducted in the 6th round when Hopkins was leading with the head, and was holding on to Roy Jones Jr's hand. Jones's foul wasn't nearly as bad as Hopkins's fouls and Hopkins created the situation that led to the foul.

So as much as you want to make it sound like I am crazy for scoring the fight to Jones, if you look at the blatant fouls that Hopkins had, and the clean punching that Jones had throughout the fight, it's not crazy at all to score it for Jones.

Watch it again ElTerribleMorales. Many of those rounds were close, and depending on how you viewed it could have gone either way. Who is Morales going to fight next?

i had Hopkins winning it basically like 8-4 plus the extra point for the deduction against Jones in the 6th, sorry i'm no ref to be taking away points on my card as i please, Hopkins won the fight, even if he didn't look good at all in doing so, both guys sucked ass that night and both should retire, in no way did Jones turn back the clock

and as for Morales, i don't know who he's fighting next, all i know is that he should just go back and retire

haha it's always a good start when on only their second post they get accused of being on crack.

Should be a good addition to the boards, nice to have people to disagree with.

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haha it's always a good start when on only their second post they get accused of being on crack.

Should be a good addition to the boards, nice to have people to disagree with.

Well I don't take it too personally beacuse I know that most casual boxing fans have given up on Roy Jones. So anyone giving credit to Roy Jones will probably be accused of being on crack. But, even on this very forum and other forums like eastside boxing, there were more than a few that thought Jones still got the best of Hopkins.

Regardless of what you think about who won, I think you gotta give credit to Roy Jones for fighting a cleaner fight and landing some great punches in the middle and late rounds. The fight itself wasn't a classic or an all time great, but I did think you could take a lot away from that fight from what actually happened. (you know by watching it round by round, with the commentary off)

I have no problem if people disagree with my view, but it would serve them well to explain why rather than just dismissing the argument altogether.

In the RJJ - BHop fight, the proof is really in the pudding. Hopkins threw more punches, Hopkins fouled more, Hopkins tied Jones up more. But at the end of the day, Jones was the one who landed the more flashy punches and did the more creative work in there. And as a boxing fan watching a fight between two legends, I think you gotta appreciate that. It wasn't just a trash fight. It was a pretty incredible match considering the age of the fighters. It was much more entertaining and competitive than Pacquiao - Clottey, which was a snooze fest at best. I would go as far to say that Jones - Hopkins was more exciting than Pacquiao - Clottey, Pavlik - Martinez, and Bute - Miranda. And most people just want to dismiss it as insignificant and uncompetitive, when in reality it was much more than that.