This actually gave me a new perspective of Hayes decisions to pull out of the two Klitschcko fights.
I am also surprised that Hauser is now writing for The Ring.
Hauser: W. Klitschko's anger is understandable but ...
This actually gave me a new perspective of Hayes decisions to pull out of the two Klitschcko fights.
I am also surprised that Hauser is now writing for The Ring.
Hauser: W. Klitschko's anger is understandable but ...
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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
Re Hauser, follow the money.
in england its common knowledge that the reason haye pulled out of the fight was because of setanta went bankrupt. and thats why haye pulled out. cause it was hayes only source of income from the fight. any fighter would do the same. some people dont see this tho and think that haye lost his bottle. no way was this the case. the haye klitschko fight will happen. just as long as its under the right circumstancesQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
Haye said the Klitschko fights would be a walk in the park and he would KO them in a couple rounds, so why would he care so much about his purse? He would be making at least 10m a fight now if he KOd wlad in 3 rounds. Oh thats right all his trash talk was just to con fight fans into thinking he was a top fighter....He knows he wil get KOd...that is why he took some easier fights to build up his name......
At least he will get paid well now for staring up at the lights......
He doesn't provide any new information. What he said has already been well documented. Facts are facts. Haye biitched out twice.
:LOLATYOU: At the suggestion that Wlad owes Valuev an apology.
Yeah, but his point wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
with Wlad it was unreasonable for him to fight for nothing, and
with Vitali he received a better offer for an easier fight, which has no coincidently given him a greater bargaining power in talks about a klitschko fight again.
So Haye is in the game for the money and easy fights....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutYeah, but his point wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
with Wlad it was unreasonable for him to fight for nothing, and
with Vitali he received a better offer for an easier fight, which has no coincidently given him a greater bargaining power in talks about a klitschko fight again.
he could care less about the fans, his legacy, or the state of the heavyweight division......all his talk was a bunch of BS......What a loser.
This is your thread. You posted that article. Maybe you should read it again. It clearly says "Haye was to receive most of his purse from Setanta". Most. Not all. So how the fukk was he fighting for free? According to Haye, Wlad goes out in 3. So why pull out? Your getting some money for an easy ass fight. The rematch or a fight with Vitali would of more than made up for it. Haye pulled out for one reason and one reason only. FearQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutYeah, but his point wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
with Wlad it was unreasonable for him to fight for nothing, and
with Vitali he received a better offer for an easier fight, which has no coincidently given him a greater bargaining power in talks about a klitschko fight again.
Bollocks, Haye pulled out because of the shit deal.... (You must fight us in 3 straight rematches when you beat gay brother Wlad... FUCKING PUSSIES) That coupled with fighting for fuck all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThis is your thread. You posted that article. Maybe you should read it again. It clearly says "Haye was to receive most of his purse from Setanta". Most. Not all. So how the fukk was he fighting for free? According to Haye, Wlad goes out in 3. So why pull out? Your getting some money for an easy ass fight. The rematch or a fight with Vitali would of more than made up for it. Haye pulled out for one reason and one reason only. FearQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutYeah, but his point wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
with Wlad it was unreasonable for him to fight for nothing, and
with Vitali he received a better offer for an easier fight, which has no coincidently given him a greater bargaining power in talks about a klitschko fight again.
Now everyone knows I loathe David Haye but even I can't criticise what he has done.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterSo Haye is in the game for the money and easy fights....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutYeah, but his point wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
with Wlad it was unreasonable for him to fight for nothing, and
with Vitali he received a better offer for an easier fight, which has no coincidently given him a greater bargaining power in talks about a klitschko fight again.
he could care less about the fans, his legacy, or the state of the heavyweight division......all his talk was a bunch of BS......What a loser.
I'm not sure how much he stood to lose because of the Setanta collapse but let's just say a million, as it would likely have been at least that, and probably more.
A fight with Wlad or Vitali is David's D Day, his make or break, career defining fight.
It's his biggest payday, the most significant and importatant life changing event in his boxing career.
To take the fight for no money would be absolute fucking lunacy, nobody in the world no matter what career they were in would take part in their biggest money earner for no money, it's just retarded to criticise that.
Can you imagine Britney Spears or Take That agreeing to not get paid for their huge combeack tours that have propelled them back into the limelight, or Bill Gates for taking no money from his greatest ever selling product? How about an top actor agreeing not to get paid for their biggest ever box office breaking film role?
It's precisely these massive successes that give them the mass fortunes that crown their careers and David, or anyone else would have to be an absolute mug to agree to take part in their biggest moment, and biggest earner for no money.
As for pulling out of a Vitali fight, again it made perfect sense for him. Was it courteous? No. Does David care, or is he even in the business of being courteous towards the Klits, and vice versa, again hell no, so he did what was right for him and fuck what those milky, gangly robots felt about it.
If Haye wasn't so charismatic, buff and popular with the ladies, I'd like him.
This explains why you're a Froch fan ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboNow everyone knows I loathe David Haye but even I can't criticise what he has done.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterSo Haye is in the game for the money and easy fights....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
he could care less about the fans, his legacy, or the state of the heavyweight division......all his talk was a bunch of BS......What a loser.
I'm not sure how much he stood to lose because of the Setanta collapse but let's just say a million, as it would likely have been at least that, and probably more.
A fight with Wlad or Vitali is David's D Day, his make or break, career defining fight.
It's his biggest payday, the most significant and importatant life changing event in his boxing career.
To take the fight for no money would be absolute fucking lunacy, nobody in the world no matter what career they were in would take part in their biggest money earner for no money, it's just retarded to criticise that.
Can you imagine Britney Spears or Take That agreeing to not get paid for their huge combeack tours that have propelled them back into the limelight, or Bill Gates for taking no money from his greatest ever selling product? How about an top actor agreeing not to get paid for their biggest ever box office breaking film role?
It's precisely these massive successes that give them the mass fortunes that crown their careers and David, or anyone else would have to be an absolute mug to agree to take part in their biggest moment, and biggest earner for no money.
As for pulling out of a Vitali fight, again it made perfect sense for him. Was it courteous? No. Does David care, or is he even in the business of being courteous towards the Klits, and vice versa, again hell no, so he did what was right for him and fuck what those milky, gangly robots felt about it.
If Haye wasn't so charismatic, buff and popular with the ladies, I'd like him.
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Originally Posted by JazMerkinThis explains why you're a Froch fan ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboNow everyone knows I loathe David Haye but even I can't criticise what he has done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
I'm not sure how much he stood to lose because of the Setanta collapse but let's just say a million, as it would likely have been at least that, and probably more.
A fight with Wlad or Vitali is David's D Day, his make or break, career defining fight.
It's his biggest payday, the most significant and importatant life changing event in his boxing career.
To take the fight for no money would be absolute fucking lunacy, nobody in the world no matter what career they were in would take part in their biggest money earner for no money, it's just retarded to criticise that.
Can you imagine Britney Spears or Take That agreeing to not get paid for their huge combeack tours that have propelled them back into the limelight, or Bill Gates for taking no money from his greatest ever selling product? How about an top actor agreeing not to get paid for their biggest ever box office breaking film role?
It's precisely these massive successes that give them the mass fortunes that crown their careers and David, or anyone else would have to be an absolute mug to agree to take part in their biggest moment, and biggest earner for no money.
As for pulling out of a Vitali fight, again it made perfect sense for him. Was it courteous? No. Does David care, or is he even in the business of being courteous towards the Klits, and vice versa, again hell no, so he did what was right for him and fuck what those milky, gangly robots felt about it.
If Haye wasn't so charismatic, buff and popular with the ladies, I'd like him.
haha very true. And yet Frochy's girl is fucking hot! But she's clearly with him for the money and the glory, and I can respect that.
Reminds me of a joke Jimmy Carr said.
'Someone came up to me last week and said 'your girl is only with you because your famous', I said 'So? I AM famous!'. :cool:
He may have explained it but he certainly didn't "justify" it
Fool would get more respect if that were true and he came out an admitted it. But she showed his true biitch colors when he claimed a hand injury only to change it to a back injury when he was seen using both hands without any problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuBollocks, Haye pulled out because of the shit deal.... (You must fight us in 3 straight rematches when you beat gay brother Wlad... FUCKING PUSSIES) That coupled with fighting for fuck all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThis is your thread. You posted that article. Maybe you should read it again. It clearly says "Haye was to receive most of his purse from Setanta". Most. Not all. So how the fukk was he fighting for free? According to Haye, Wlad goes out in 3. So why pull out? Your getting some money for an easy ass fight. The rematch or a fight with Vitali would of more than made up for it. Haye pulled out for one reason and one reason only. FearQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
Is it me or does it seem like the point of that article was to get Wlad to apologize to Valuev? Kind of bizarre really considering Haye has said things 10 times more viscous to all sorts of people and Hauser isn't calling for him to apologize.
Also I do find it funny that he's writing for the Ring given as much column space he dedicates to bashing GBP and HBO.
He should have said that from the get go. Noone in the general public would fault him for that (save maybe Lyle).Quote:
Originally Posted by paddy448in england its common knowledge that the reason haye pulled out of the fight was because of setanta went bankrupt. and thats why haye pulled out. cause it was hayes only source of income from the fight. any fighter would do the same. some people dont see this tho and think that haye lost his bottle. no way was this the case. the haye klitschko fight will happen. just as long as its under the right circumstancesQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
Faking an injury was the only way out of that fight without breaching the contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseFool would get more respect if that were true and he came out an admitted it. But she showed his true biitch colors when he claimed a hand injury only to change it to a back injury when he was seen using both hands without any problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuBollocks, Haye pulled out because of the shit deal.... (You must fight us in 3 straight rematches when you beat gay brother Wlad... FUCKING PUSSIES) That coupled with fighting for fuck all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
He would be an idiot if he didn't fake an injury, and would have lost tons of money in the subsequent breach of contract suit.
bottom line is that he was not getting paid, or getting paid next to nothing on a fight in which he was cashing his career in on.
Give the guy a break.
I would have admired that decision had he done so and I believe the Klitschko's would have been OK with him being honest about it and perhaps they would have worked out a new contract......but the guy just had to try and save face and look what happens, I laugh at him because he has turned out to be someone who's all hat and no cattle.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Can't give a guy a break for pulling out of a fight that in his own words "wouldn't go past 3". A lot of fighters take little money for the oppertunity to become champions. Haye might not of been getting what he orginally thought. But he was getting paid. No excuse for him not taking the Golden oppertunity he so richly claims to have wanted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutFaking an injury was the only way out of that fight without breaching the contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseFool would get more respect if that were true and he came out an admitted it. But she showed his true biitch colors when he claimed a hand injury only to change it to a back injury when he was seen using both hands without any problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
He would be an idiot if he didn't fake an injury, and would have lost tons of money in the subsequent breach of contract suit.
bottom line is that he was not getting paid, or getting paid next to nothing on a fight in which he was cashing his career in on.
Give the guy a break.