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I am.
I know he's the udnerdog and he's gonna have to be wary of Pavlik's power, but I think Martinez is the better fighter, the quicker fighter, the smarter fighter, and has the longer reach surprisingly.
He could very well get TKO'd.
But I'm rootin for him tonight.
This fight is a toss up for me...If this was the Pavlik of 2 years ago I don't think there is even a need to question the winner tonight...
IMO the Hopkins loss still sits in him...I think he also has been abusing himself outside the ring every bit what the rumors have said....Drinking and partying
But then again....This will be his 3rd fight in a yr and 4th defense so maybe the stories are a bit exaggerated no?...
WE will know tonight...
I like Kelly but i really thought Martinez beat Williams and showed he is a real force so i wouldnt be suprised if he did win.
Pavlik comfortable for me.
I'm picking Martinez because of his movement. Is it possible Pavlik blows him out with his power? It's absolutely possible. Pavlik to me, even when he beat Taylor is all about straight lines and straight punches, I believe Martinez will use his in and out movement and great counters to keep Kelly from being able to plant and therefore nullifying his power advantage.
I've got Martinez boxing Kelly 2D Pavliks ears off as long as can take a good shot. Williams caught him off balance more than anything when they fought.......
I think Martinez gets hit too much for Pavlik. Williams hit Martinez with a lot of shots and Pavlik throws much straighter and harder. Unless Martinez can take a really good punch for 12 rounds I see Pavlik finally stopping him around 9 ir 10. But I do have to acknowledge Martinez looked really built and like a full grown middleweight at the weigh in. Maybe he is ready for a hard punching middleweight.
That's a big unknown factor too, is that extra muscle mass going to make Martinez stronger? is it going to make him slower? I'm really excited for this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
I think Sergio wins a decision and drops Pavlik in the process. Pavlik is going to have a real hard dealing with Sergio's speed and timing. Pavlik's chin isnt exactly granite and I think Sergio will land some shots Kelly doesnt see coming.
Pavlik will look good early as Martinez is possible to hit. He'll start throwing that classic 1,2 down the pipe. Then round 3 will come around and Martinez will have figured out Pavlik's rhythm. Martinez will then get inside Pavlik's long arms and do damage then bolt out of range because of his superior foot speed. Martinez by UD,
PS: I'm really excited for both fights tonight and another 24/7 what time does miranda bute start at?
Based on location alone I'm guessing Pavlik/Martinez is first 10 EST and then Bute/Miranda 11ish EST. They are playing 24/7 directly before AND after the fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Truth
I'd have to pick him if made to choose
martinez is gonna win by a wide margin.
It's like Daxx says it depends on whether Pavlik is the same fighter he was a couple of years ago. I'm going to go with Pavlik but wouldn't be surprised if Martinez wins this. I was really thinking about picking the upset.
Pavlik gets his crediblity back by dominating and knocking Martinez out imo.
He'll go crazy and call out Paul Williams and Kellerman will give a nice end of show speech about how Pavlik and Williams must meet in the ring by the end of the year.
martinez is the better fighter, but pavlik has the power....a pick-em
Looks like a lot of people are picking Martinez.
Good to see I'm not alone here.
lol
You know what?Count me in.I think Martinez has more boxing 101 savy and skill set in his left leg than Pavlik has over all.One thing is huge for Pavlik....size and duh...power.But he has Imo learned nothing from Hopkins schooling,even sub par Rubio surviving a while and again Pavlik was so very 'straight line'.In and out,no bending...one gear and seemed hesitant and had to warm to occasion over time.
Martinez has enough mobility and mixed punch set to keep Pavlik turning and might just get him big time flustered.He MUST keep sharp and Martinez can be a very cocky guy,,,hands down,flaunting and a bit of coasting.He better be on point from jump off and not be a smart azz with limited but strong Pavlik and get off 1,2,3 and move.Pavliks strength can be his biggest liability against a smooth and confident boxer.The blue prints out on him.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think Pavlik stops him hard. Although on the FNR4 game I just played, Martinez scored a 1 punch 8th round KO with a left hayemake. I hope the game is right :-\
I'm Goin with Martinez tonight. Now i just hope he doesn't get caught with any big shots.
Pavlik absolutely dominated Rubio, he won every round, and Rubio a couple of early career KO's aside is renowned as a durable guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Martinez couldn't finish a welterweight with chin issues in Kermit Cintron.
I think Martinez gets blasted tonight and Pavlik once again gets back in the p4p.
The loss to Hopkins I think was as much a case of a career worst performance as it was anything to do with his lack of skills.
He'll redeem himself tonight with a one sided display.
Rubio is indeed durable but he gave himself ZERO chance to win.That was one of the biggest non efforts Ive seen recently and it was not totally due to what Pavlik was piling on early,Rubio fought meek from the very beginning and has no where near the savvy and self confidence of a Martinez.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboPavlik absolutely dominated Rubio, he won every round, and Rubio a couple of early career KO's aside is renowned as a durable guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Martinez couldn't finish a welterweight with chin issues in Kermit Cintron.
I think Martinez gets blasted tonight and Pavlik once again gets back in the p4p.
The loss to Hopkins I think was as much a case of a career worst performance as it was anything to do with his lack of skills.
He'll redeem himself tonight with a one sided display.
Martinez finished Cintron,it was as clear as day.To bad the ref had other things on his mind and gave Cintron second life.Martinez has enough respectable pop...putting Williams on the deck shows that.But its as much his angles and speed.His focus here needs to be stick and move regardless...he tries to match power and size with Pavlik he could end up staring at the lights.
Bilbo seriously ;D.He had a career worse performance with Hopkins because he is one gear and Hopkins while currently a bore of both mouth and fists....showed what a versed moving boxer could do to Pavlik...mentally and physically.I can see a case where Pavlik just wades in and traps Martinez,kills that body and mobility...forces a shoot out and stops him but I think Martinez is also the second best all around mobile boxers boxer that Pav has faced to date.All I wants a good fight,the rest is gravy.
I'll settle for the good fight bit too.
martinez on points
Thats unless sergio once again is walking into another screwy hometown decision