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Berto is a piece of s...
all the talk about how people should be more aware of the poverty and tragedy in Haiti, and now he came out with this gem...
On Monday morning, Berto wrote the following on Twitter: “R.I.P to Edwin Valero after killing his wife yesterday he just killed himself in jail today. WOW women are a [expletive] boy RIP E.V.”
Mailbag: Berto's mistake - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
didn't really care for the guy to begin with, now i hope he does get a fight against one of the top guys at welterweight and basically ends up ruined, fucking asshole
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I'd like to be enraged by this but Valero wasn't even on my radar. I have nothing invested in him and so I struggle to rustle up a feeling good or bad about any of this.
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I think we should send Daxx out to "interview" him.
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BoxingGorilla
I'd like to be enraged by this but Valero wasn't even on my radar. I have nothing invested in him and so I struggle to rustle up a feeling good or bad about any of this.
Surely that fact that he killed BOTH of the parents of his children causes a slight stir? No?
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BoxingGorilla
I'd like to be enraged by this but Valero wasn't even on my radar. I have nothing invested in him and so I struggle to rustle up a feeling good or bad about any of this.
i don't give a fuck about Valero, the thing that piss me off are Berto's comments towards Valero's murdered wife, and his insinuation that she's the cause of the entire tragedy
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So Valero and the mother of two are still dead.The children were robbed of innocence and will suffer.And Berto is a overhyped flawed fighter who put one of his two left feet in his mouth?Got it.
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BoxingGorilla
I'd like to be enraged by this but Valero wasn't even on my radar. I have nothing invested in him and so I struggle to rustle up a feeling good or bad about any of this.
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Killersheep
Surely that fact that he killed BOTH of the parents of his children causes a slight stir? No?
Sorry, Killer. I hit edit instead of quote. I'm useless. ;D
Anyway...
Nothing emotional. I understand that murdering a woman is criminal and that it has a negative impact on the lives of others, but in this case I am just too far removed from ground zero.
For me the headline reads: Man Kills Wife; Hangs Self.
I'm not claiming normalcy. I'm just talking about it from my roped-off section of the world.
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ElTerribleMorales
all the talk about how people should be more aware of the poverty and tragedy in Haiti, and now he came out with this gem...
On Monday morning, Berto wrote the following on Twitter: “R.I.P to Edwin Valero after killing his wife yesterday he just killed himself in jail today. WOW women are a [expletive] boy RIP E.V.”
Mailbag: Berto's mistake - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
didn't really care for the guy to begin with, now i hope he does get a fight against one of the top guys at welterweight and basically ends up ruined, fucking asshole
Your just upset he beat your boy quintana so effortlessly with a torn arm. He apologized for what he said, get a life.
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Never liked Berto and think he is still overhyped.I always thought he was full of shit and now he is adding an asshole on top of the pile.
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
all the talk about how people should be more aware of the poverty and tragedy in Haiti, and now he came out with this gem...
On Monday morning, Berto wrote the following on Twitter: “R.I.P to Edwin Valero after killing his wife yesterday he just killed himself in jail today. WOW women are a [expletive] boy RIP E.V.”
Mailbag: Berto's mistake - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
didn't really care for the guy to begin with, now i hope he does get a fight against one of the top guys at welterweight and basically ends up ruined, fucking asshole
Well I already had my big rant about comments like this.....I am not sure if he meant it in a way where he was blaming her or saying anything bad about women...IMO it more or less sounded like a comment of shock if you will towards how far some will go in the instance of love (If you want to call it that)....I mean just last year Gatti had something similar and committed suicide :rolleyes:...So they say due to issues with a woman.
Though I don't know what is going through or was going through his mind at the time but I would HOPE it was nothing more then that.
He just does not seem like a guy who malicious like that...But then again I never expected to read some of the shit I had on these forums either on the topic. :-\
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I just read somewhere that his wife was 20 years old, and they have/had children who are aged six and eight.... Surely the ages are off, or the elder child was from another woman? Do they not have an age of consent in Venezuela:confused::confused:
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p4pking
I just read somewhere that his wife was 20 years old, and they have/had children who are aged six and eight.... Surely the ages are off, or the elder child was from another woman? Do they not have an age of consent in Venezuela:confused::confused:
I seen 20 in one report too, but i've seen lots of others where it said she was 24 i believe.
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It could have been a lot worse in cases like these of domestic violence sometimes the man kills the children. A sick f*** in the UK did that to his two children to get back at his wife.
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
all the talk about how people should be more aware of the poverty and tragedy in Haiti, and now he came out with this gem...
On Monday morning, Berto wrote the following on Twitter: “R.I.P to Edwin Valero after killing his wife yesterday he just killed himself in jail today. WOW women are a [expletive] boy RIP E.V.”
Mailbag: Berto's mistake - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
didn't really care for the guy to begin with, now i hope he does get a fight against one of the top guys at welterweight and basically ends up ruined, fucking asshole
Some times this forum gets to sensitive.
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Taeth
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
all the talk about how people should be more aware of the poverty and tragedy in Haiti, and now he came out with this gem...
On Monday morning, Berto wrote the following on Twitter: “R.I.P to Edwin Valero after killing his wife yesterday he just killed himself in jail today. WOW women are a [expletive] boy RIP E.V.”
Mailbag: Berto's mistake - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
didn't really care for the guy to begin with, now i hope he does get a fight against one of the top guys at welterweight and basically ends up ruined, fucking asshole
Your just upset he beat your boy quintana so effortlessly with a torn arm. He apologized for what he said, get a life.
hahaha there you go bitching when someone slams one of your crushes, you're so lame bro seriously
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Im a fan of Andre Berto but i think the comment is wrong, but maybe he wasn't thinking and his mouth was 3 seconds ahead of his brain. Because Andre Berto normally comes across as a nice guy, i mean we've all said stuff we didn't mean. Or its come out wrong, no need to hate on the guy. He's normally a class act.
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ICB
Im a fan of Andre Berto but i think the comment is wrong, but maybe he wasn't thinking and his mouth was 3 seconds ahead of his brain. Because Andre Berto normally comes across as a nice guy, i mean we've all said stuff we didn't mean. Or its come out wrong, no need to hate on the guy. He's normally a class act.
I agree, plus he might have known Valero personally and have more of an idea of what was going on.
I mean if one of my mates killed his wife and then himself that's the kind of thing I'd likely post.
People tend to be a lot more understanding and forgiving when they know and like the person.
The idea that man kills woman = evil scumbag who will burn in hell is a little bit simplistic, and you might make more allowances if the killer was a personal friend or someone whose character you knew was pretty good.
He was just showing support to Edwin, but I do agree it was an ill advised comment. But he's apoligised so let's move on.
I have to laugh at irony however about all these people creating threads to say 'Fuck you', or label someone a piece of shit becuase of something they said on a forum. I mean come on, glass houses and all that.
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People are people attaching yourself to any of these guys is kinda silly either way imo. There are bigger pices of shit out there than valero and berto and just because they dont' tweet it and keep it to themselves makes them no better. You don't know any of these guys. I watch boxing to watch them fight..that's it. Any of them could be racist murdering child porn collectors for any of you know, i bet there are even the same type of people on here......and quick to point out how bad others are. Who cares. Even the organazations that run this sport could care less, they're sure quick to let margarito fight again, and he could have killed someone just as dead with what he was doing. These guys entertain in the ring....they not supposed to be raising our children and giving moral lessons. Most of these guys fight cause they had no other option and crazy rough beginings. They don't pick up these guys from the ymca and church. And either way who gives a crap, let authorites do thier job and we as fans do ours. After i turn off the t.v. i don't think about any of these guys one bit, they served thier purpose. The whole thing is bad all around but valero isn't the only scum bag lacing up gloves and he won't be the last, If you watch boxing and only want to root for the "good" guys then there are probably only one or two amature fighters you're going to follow. And that's generally cause they don't have the money or time to get into trouble yet.
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Mar
People are people attaching yourself to any of these guys is kinda silly either way imo. There are bigger pices of shit out there than valero and berto and just because they dont' tweet it and keep it to themselves makes them no better. You don't know any of these guys. I watch boxing to watch them fight..that's it. Any of them could be racist murdering child porn collectors for any of you know, i bet there are even the same type of people on here......and quick to point out how bad others are. Who cares. Even the organazations that run this sport could care less, they're sure quick to let margarito fight again, and he could have killed someone just as dead with what he was doing. These guys entertain in the ring....they not supposed to be raising our children and giving moral lessons. Most of these guys fight cause they had no other option and crazy rough beginings. They don't pick up these guys from the ymca and church. And either way who gives a crap, let authorites do thier job and we as fans do ours. After i turn off the t.v. i don't think about any of these guys one bit, they served thier purpose. The whole thing is bad all around but valero isn't the only scum bag lacing up gloves and he won't be the last, If you watch boxing and only want to root for the "good" guys then there are probably only one or two amature fighters you're going to follow. And that's generally cause they don't have the money or time to get into trouble yet.
That's right. The homie Reverend Mar preaching the truth. I got into Boxing cuz I seen muthafukkas fight. Not cuz homeboy is a nice guy who helps the poor. It's about the fights.
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Great post, Mar.
Rep owed.
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Mar
People are people attaching yourself to any of these guys is kinda silly either way imo. There are bigger pices of shit out there than valero and berto and just because they dont' tweet it and keep it to themselves makes them no better. You don't know any of these guys. I watch boxing to watch them fight..that's it. Any of them could be racist murdering child porn collectors for any of you know, i bet there are even the same type of people on here......and quick to point out how bad others are. Who cares. Even the organazations that run this sport could care less, they're sure quick to let margarito fight again, and he could have killed someone just as dead with what he was doing. These guys entertain in the ring....they not supposed to be raising our children and giving moral lessons. Most of these guys fight cause they had no other option and crazy rough beginings. They don't pick up these guys from the ymca and church. And either way who gives a crap, let authorites do thier job and we as fans do ours. After i turn off the t.v. i don't think about any of these guys one bit, they served thier purpose. The whole thing is bad all around but valero isn't the only scum bag lacing up gloves and he won't be the last, If you watch boxing and only want to root for the "good" guys then there are probably only one or two amature fighters you're going to follow. And that's generally cause they don't have the money or time to get into trouble yet.
That's right. The homie Reverend Mar preaching the truth. I got into Boxing cuz I seen muthafukkas fight. Not cuz homeboy is a nice guy who helps the poor. It's about the fights.
coincidentally thats what he did considering what he's done for Haiti and given to it. Amazing how people now just dismiss him as an asshole.
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Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Mar
People are people attaching yourself to any of these guys is kinda silly either way imo. There are bigger pices of shit out there than valero and berto and just because they dont' tweet it and keep it to themselves makes them no better. You don't know any of these guys. I watch boxing to watch them fight..that's it. Any of them could be racist murdering child porn collectors for any of you know, i bet there are even the same type of people on here......and quick to point out how bad others are. Who cares. Even the organazations that run this sport could care less, they're sure quick to let margarito fight again, and he could have killed someone just as dead with what he was doing. These guys entertain in the ring....they not supposed to be raising our children and giving moral lessons. Most of these guys fight cause they had no other option and crazy rough beginings. They don't pick up these guys from the ymca and church. And either way who gives a crap, let authorites do thier job and we as fans do ours. After i turn off the t.v. i don't think about any of these guys one bit, they served thier purpose. The whole thing is bad all around but valero isn't the only scum bag lacing up gloves and he won't be the last, If you watch boxing and only want to root for the "good" guys then there are probably only one or two amature fighters you're going to follow. And that's generally cause they don't have the money or time to get into trouble yet.
That's right. The homie Reverend Mar preaching the truth. I got into Boxing cuz I seen muthafukkas fight. Not cuz homeboy is a nice guy who helps the poor. It's about the fights.
coincidentally thats what he did considering what he's done for Haiti and given to it. Amazing how people now just dismiss him as an
asshole.
It was piece of shit.
Stupid thing to say, probably thinking it makes him sound hard or something.
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OumaFan
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Majesty
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Violent Demise
That's right. The homie Reverend Mar preaching the truth. I got into Boxing cuz I seen muthafukkas fight. Not cuz homeboy is a nice guy who helps the poor. It's about the fights.
coincidentally thats what he did considering what he's done for Haiti and given to it. Amazing how people now just dismiss him as an
asshole.
It was piece of shit.
Stupid thing to say, probably thinking it makes him sound hard or something.
Oh yeah, there's no doubt it was stupid for him to say and it was a very ass hole type of comment. But you can't define someone's whole career and life by one statement.
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Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Mar
People are people attaching yourself to any of these guys is kinda silly either way imo. There are bigger pices of shit out there than valero and berto and just because they dont' tweet it and keep it to themselves makes them no better. You don't know any of these guys. I watch boxing to watch them fight..that's it. Any of them could be racist murdering child porn collectors for any of you know, i bet there are even the same type of people on here......and quick to point out how bad others are. Who cares. Even the organazations that run this sport could care less, they're sure quick to let margarito fight again, and he could have killed someone just as dead with what he was doing. These guys entertain in the ring....they not supposed to be raising our children and giving moral lessons. Most of these guys fight cause they had no other option and crazy rough beginings. They don't pick up these guys from the ymca and church. And either way who gives a crap, let authorites do thier job and we as fans do ours. After i turn off the t.v. i don't think about any of these guys one bit, they served thier purpose. The whole thing is bad all around but valero isn't the only scum bag lacing up gloves and he won't be the last, If you watch boxing and only want to root for the "good" guys then there are probably only one or two amature fighters you're going to follow. And that's generally cause they don't have the money or time to get into trouble yet.
That's right. The homie Reverend Mar preaching the truth. I got into Boxing cuz I seen muthafukkas fight. Not cuz homeboy is a nice guy who helps the poor. It's about the fights.
coincidentally thats what he did considering what he's done for Haiti and given to it. Amazing how people now just dismiss him as an asshole.
I debated it a little bit. But yeah I decided to keep watching Berto fight despite his efforts to go help the poor
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Violent Demise
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Majesty
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Violent Demise
That's right. The homie Reverend Mar preaching the truth. I got into Boxing cuz I seen muthafukkas fight. Not cuz homeboy is a nice guy who helps the poor. It's about the fights.
coincidentally thats what he did considering what he's done for Haiti and given to it. Amazing how people now just dismiss him as an asshole.
I debated it a little bit. But yeah I decided to keep watching Berto fight despite his efforts to go help the poor
haha
About Berto, I think his twitter post was just an expression of how a woman can fuck a man's head up, it was ill advised but I don't think we should go overboard on it.
We should also take into account the distinct likelihood of him knowing Valero personally. If one of your friends went mental and killed his wife then himself you'd be less likely to see only the evil in him.
As I said yesterday, my own best friend of 26 years' dad killed his wife when she taunted him that was leaving him for another man and taking the kids.
He snapped, stabbed her 49 times with a pair of scissors and then went mad for a year, living in a padded cell.
He was found not guilty of murder on the grounds of diminished responsibility, even his ex wife's parents forgave him, and he was released to care for his two kids.
I can only imagine the guilt and shame he has had to live wit the past 33 years since it happened, and the knowlege that he killed her in whilst the kids were in the house, and she died in front of my mate.
It's a horrible horrible tragedy all around but that one minute snap doesn't define who he is as a man. He will live for it forever, maybe suffer for it in eternity, and his kids obviously also bear the scars.
My point is though, that the people who knew him all stood by him, and I'm guessing Andre Berto knew Edwin Valero.
He was showing his support, albiet in a rather ill advised way.
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BoxingGorilla
I'd like to be enraged by this but Valero wasn't even on my radar. I have nothing invested in him and so I struggle to rustle up a feeling good or bad about any of this.
i don't give a fuck about Valero, the thing that piss me off are Berto's comments towards Valero's murdered wife, and his insinuation that she's the cause of the entire tragedy
agree.. he said something about "woman is a m*******ker" or something like that. what the heck.. and he twit something later like "i apologize for my comments" he lost the very little respect i have for him.
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Taeth
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ElTerribleMorales
all the talk about how people should be more aware of the poverty and tragedy in Haiti, and now he came out with this gem...
On Monday morning, Berto wrote the following on Twitter: “R.I.P to Edwin Valero after killing his wife yesterday he just killed himself in jail today. WOW women are a [expletive] boy RIP E.V.”
Mailbag: Berto's mistake - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
didn't really care for the guy to begin with, now i hope he does get a fight against one of the top guys at welterweight and basically ends up ruined, fucking asshole
Your just upset he beat your boy quintana so effortlessly with a torn arm. He apologized for what he said, get a life.
you think his apology is enough for valeros kids? if i push you to the train tracks would you forgive me if i apologize after damage has been done?
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Taeth
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ElTerribleMorales
all the talk about how people should be more aware of the poverty and tragedy in Haiti, and now he came out with this gem...
On Monday morning, Berto wrote the following on Twitter: “R.I.P to Edwin Valero after killing his wife yesterday he just killed himself in jail today. WOW women are a [expletive] boy RIP E.V.”
Mailbag: Berto's mistake - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
didn't really care for the guy to begin with, now i hope he does get a fight against one of the top guys at welterweight and basically ends up ruined, fucking asshole
Your just upset he beat your boy quintana so effortlessly with a torn arm. He apologized for what he said, get a life.
you think his apology is enough for valeros kids? if i push you to the train tracks would you forgive me if i apologize after damage has been done?
I doubt his kids even know about it. And I don't see how a public text message compares to pushing someone on to a train track.
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josef4334
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Taeth
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ElTerribleMorales
all the talk about how people should be more aware of the poverty and tragedy in Haiti, and now he came out with this gem...
On Monday morning, Berto wrote the following on Twitter: “R.I.P to Edwin Valero after killing his wife yesterday he just killed himself in jail today. WOW women are a [expletive] boy RIP E.V.”
Mailbag: Berto's mistake - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
didn't really care for the guy to begin with, now i hope he does get a fight against one of the top guys at welterweight and basically ends up ruined, fucking asshole
Your just upset he beat your boy quintana so effortlessly with a torn arm. He apologized for what he said, get a life.
you think his apology is enough for valeros kids? if i push you to the train tracks would you forgive me if i apologize after damage has been done?
He apologized already. What more do you want him to fukking do? Go buy them a house? Put them through college? Get off his fukking back already. I seriously doubt he gives a fukk you lost the little respect you had for him. Man what the fukk is he going to do now?
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Haha no kidding, this is why Twitter and Facebook is bad. Of course Berto's snap judgement is going to be to relate with the other fighter! He apologized, move on and get your own life. It's not like this was the conclusion of a bunch of research he did, it was a snap thing he typed probably on his phone after he read the headline, ease up! Andre Berto is by all accounts a really good guy, ALL of us have put our foot in our mouth at some point in time talking about something we didn't know all the facts to.
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I don't think it means he's a horrible person, just a dumb kid trying to act cool on twitter.
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amat
Haha no kidding, this is why Twitter and Facebook is bad. Of course Berto's snap judgement is going to be to relate with the other fighter! He apologized, move on and get your own life. It's not like this was the conclusion of a bunch of research he did, it was a snap thing he typed probably on his phone after he read the headline, ease up! Andre Berto is by all accounts a really good guy, ALL of us have put our foot in our mouth at some point in time talking about something we didn't know all the facts to.
Exactly man, some people had a go at him on twitter about it and his response was "YO YO relax people relax I don't know what happened with Edwin Valero and his wife I just feel its a sad day he was a great fighter"
The comment was stupid and he apologised for offending anyone, it was just a snap reaction to hearing about a tragic situation.
