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The official Kessler Froch Scorecards..
Roger Tielman
1. Kessler
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Kessler
10. Kessler
11. Froch
12. Froch
117 - 111 Kessler
Daneil Van Wiele
1. Froch
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Froch
11. Kessler
12. Kessler
116 - 112 Kessler
Guido Cavillari
1. Froch
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Froch
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Froch
11. Kessler
12. Kessler
115 - 113 Kessler
Hahahaha Tillerman is a fucking clown, like the way he gave Froch the last two rounds, he must of looked down on his card after 10 and thought " SHIT " this looks a bit dodgy I better make it a bit closer :-X.
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Re: The official Kessler Froch Scorecards..
Wiele is pretty similar to mind except I gave Froch the 11th.
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Most of the rounds were close. Seeing how fights are judged by each round and not by the fight as a whole i can see a judge looking down at the end of the fight and coming up with almost anything. Froch knew and hell even acknowledged before the fight began his chances of winning a decision were probably close to none. So when the final bell rung especially with how close the rounds were i don't see where his suprise came from. He even went as far to say himself there was a lot more he could have done so he should have. Now something like guzman/fueneka 1 is what i would call ridiculous, but this fight i don't see any scorecard being wrong, just different points of view. Froch like most will learn from this loss, i just don't think there's much he'll be able to use from that lesson when facing abraham that will help him.
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think the fight wasnt even that close really. 116-112 was about it. I think in close rounds u have to give them to the guy forcing the action and that was always Kessler.
Funny how Froch fans say the guy on the back foot, not doing much but maybe landing the slightly better shots should have won this fight, but when u sak them about the Dirrell fight its the guy forcing the action who deservedly won.
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the Italian judge had it right, 115-113. The first judge's scorecard is disturbing. Froch easily won 3 of the first five rounds.
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
Roger Tielman
1. Kessler
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Kessler
10. Kessler
11. Froch
12. Froch
117 - 111 Kessler
Daneil Van Wiele
1. Froch
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Froch
11. Kessler
12. Kessler
116 - 112 Kessler
Guido Cavillari
1. Froch
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Froch
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Froch
11. Kessler
12. Kessler
115 - 113 Kessler
Hahahaha Tillerman is a fucking clown, like the way he gave Froch the last two rounds, he must of looked down on his card after 10 and thought " SHIT " this looks a bit dodgy I better make it a bit closer :-X.
Absoloute disgrace
this is why our sport is subject to so much criticism. I assume this clown will be struck off and the result will be reversed to a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
mickel
the Italian judge had it right, 115-113. The first judge's scorecard is disturbing. Froch easily won 3 of the first five rounds.
And that's why he doesn't want to go to Berlin....
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
Roger Tielman
1. Kessler
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Kessler
10. Kessler
11. Froch
12. Froch
117 - 111 Kessler
Daneil Van Wiele
1. Froch
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Froch
11. Kessler
12. Kessler
116 - 112 Kessler
Guido Cavillari
1. Froch
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Froch
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Froch
11. Kessler
12. Kessler
115 - 113 Kessler
Hahahaha Tillerman is a fucking clown, like the way he gave Froch the last two rounds, he must of looked down on his card after 10 and thought " SHIT " this looks a bit dodgy I better make it a bit closer :-X.
Yep thats exactly what I thought. And giving Kessler the 9th?? Thats a fucking joke.
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
Roger Tielman
1. Kessler
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Kessler
10. Kessler
11. Froch
12. Froch
117 - 111 Kessler
Daneil Van Wiele
1. Froch
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Froch
11. Kessler
12. Kessler
116 - 112 Kessler
Guido Cavillari
1. Froch
2. Kessler
3. Kessler
4. Froch
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Froch
11. Kessler
12. Kessler
115 - 113 Kessler
Hahahaha Tillerman is a fucking clown, like the way he gave Froch the last two rounds, he must of looked down on his card after 10 and thought " SHIT " this looks a bit dodgy I better make it a bit closer :-X.
The 3rd judge had it about right, i think he scored some of the rounds the wrong way. But overall in the end his score was probably the most unbiased and correct.
My score.
1 Froch
2 Kessler
3 Froch
4 Kessler
5 Froch
6 Kessler
7 Kessler
8 Kessler
9 Kessler
10 Froch
11 Froch
12 Kessler
115-113 Mikkel Kessler.
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i had it 116-112 Kessler, this fight was far from being robbery
it was a clear cut win, and the right fighter got the nod
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Roger Tielman score card is a joke, was he the dick that was the ref from the Reid v Ottke fight?
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Well it was a close match, and if you play with the rounds between the 3 judges Froch could have taken it because he then would have "won"
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4
5
9
10
11
12
then it would be 115-113 for Froch, and I am now 100% sure he would have won in UK no doubt about it :cool:
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Originally Posted by
thewhale
Well it was a close match, and if you play with the rounds between the 3 judges Froch could have taken it because he then would have "won"
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4
5
9
10
11
12
then it would be 115-113 for Froch, and I am now 100% sure he would have won in UK no doubt about it :cool:
and it would have been just as legit as his "win" over Dirrell
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
thewhale
Well it was a close match, and if you play with the rounds between the 3 judges Froch could have taken it because he then would have "won"
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4
5
9
10
11
12
then it would be 115-113 for Froch, and I am now 100% sure he would have won in UK no doubt about it :cool:
and it would have been just as legit as his "win" over Dirrell
This fight was way closer than the Dirrell fight.
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Wow you no what I am watching the fight on Youtube not the shitty stream and I tell you what this was fucking very close fight.. I am going to give my card in a moment.
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I am going to put my card up but Froch won the last 2 rounds for me, I can't give Kessler the 12th for the last 20 second flurry prior to that Froch was winning the round clearly.
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after a re-watching it:
1. Even
2. Kessler
3. Froch
4. Froch
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Even
11. Kessler
12. Even
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... Froch did not win this fight nor did he win his fight before this. He is overrated.
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Why are people complaining about the scoring, I had it 116-112 and that's withing one point from 2 of the 3 judges scoring as the fight went on and before any replays in between rounds, remember these judges don't get to re watch the fight in slow motion before they mark their score cards.
do they see replays on the big screen at the arena's in between rounds ??
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116-111 why we are even arguing about this is ridiculous Froch won the fight at a canter and in mine and every legitimate boxing fans eyes is 27-0 with 20 kos.
If he loses his status as the worlds number 1 supermiddleweight then an even bigger tragedy than saturday evening has occured.
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HattonTheHomo
116-111 why we are even arguing about this is ridiculous Froch won the fight at a canter and in mine and every legitimate boxing fans eyes is 27-0 with 20 kos.
If he loses his status as the worlds number 1 supermiddleweight then an even bigger tragedy than saturday evening has occured.
He never was number 1 mate. Rightly or wrongly Bute is number 1 which is a joke with his resume.
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
HattonTheHomo
116-111 why we are even arguing about this is ridiculous Froch won the fight at a canter and in mine and every legitimate boxing fans eyes is 27-0 with 20 kos.
If he loses his status as the worlds number 1 supermiddleweight then an even bigger tragedy than saturday evening has occured.
He never was number 1 mate. Rightly or wrongly Bute is number 1 which is a joke with his resume.
Not really overall he has the best resume, except for maybe Mikkel Kessler. But at that time he had just lost to Andre Ward in one sided fashion.
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
HattonTheHomo
116-111 why we are even arguing about this is ridiculous Froch won the fight at a canter and in mine and every legitimate boxing fans eyes is 27-0 with 20 kos.
If he loses his status as the worlds number 1 supermiddleweight then an even bigger tragedy than saturday evening has occured.
He never was number 1 mate. Rightly or wrongly Bute is number 1 which is a joke with his resume.
Not really overall he has the best resume, except for maybe Mikkel Kessler. But at that time he had just lost to Andre Ward in one sided fashion.
Hown exactly? His best win is against an average fighter who Kessler beat up 4 years ago, Bute has no big names on his resume, Ward is number one he beat the previous number one Kessler Bute has beat decent contenders that is all. He is not number one imo. He is now number three for me.
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
He never was number 1 mate. Rightly or wrongly Bute is number 1 which is a joke with his resume.
Not really overall he has the best resume, except for maybe Mikkel Kessler. But at that time he had just lost to Andre Ward in one sided fashion.
Hown exactly? His best win is against an average fighter who Kessler beat up 4 years ago, Bute has no big names on his resume, Ward is number one he beat the previous number one Kessler Bute has beat decent contenders that is all. He is not number one imo. He is now number three for me.
Andre Ward has one big win and thats it, outside of that who has he beaten ? Edison Miranda over 12 rounds ? who Lucian Bute destroyed in 3 ?
Compare the records.
Lucian Bute
Kabary Salem
Fulgencio Zuniga
Librado Andrade x2
Edison Miranda
Sakio Bika
William Joppy
Lolenga Mock
Alejandro Berrio
Are all solid fighters, you also have to take into account. The way he's destroyed the opposition, fighters like Fulgencio Zuniga, Kabary Salem, Librado Andrade. Had rock solid chins and had never been stopped.
He's also been a world champion since 2007.
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Re: The official Kessler Froch Scorecards..
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Not really overall he has the best resume, except for maybe Mikkel Kessler. But at that time he had just lost to Andre Ward in one sided fashion.
Hown exactly? His best win is against an average fighter who Kessler beat up 4 years ago, Bute has no big names on his resume, Ward is number one he beat the previous number one Kessler Bute has beat decent contenders that is all. He is not number one imo. He is now number three for me.
Andre Ward has one big win and thats it, outside of that who has he beaten ? Edison Miranda over 12 rounds ? who Lucian Bute destroyed in 3 ?
Compare the records.
Lucian Bute
Kabary Salem
Fulgencio Zuniga
Librado Andrade x2
Edison Miranda
Sakio Bika
William Joppy
Lolenga Mock
Alejandro Berrio
Are all solid fighters, you also have to take into account. The way he's destroyed the opposition, fighters like Fulgencio Zuniga, Kabary Salem, Librado Andrade. Had rock solid chins and had never been stopped.
He's also been a world champion since 2007.
Mate Kessler was number 1 before the Ward fight Ward beat him up he is now number 1 in my eyes that win over Kessler is way better than anything Bute has done like I said Bute's best win was against a guy who was ranked 7/8 and who Kessler totally schooled 4 years ago.
Kessler just beat Froch as well so that adds to Ward's credentials imo, Froch has a better resume than Bute as well, all them names you have put up are average contenders in reality.
1. Ward
2. Kessler
3. Bute
4. Froch
5. Dirrell
That is my top 5.
