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Super 6 Tiebreaking Rules?
For a little clarification here's a few scenarios, anyone know how they play out?
Dirrell loses to Ward
Froch loses to AA
Top 4 advance so what if those guys end up witroh 2 points each? I'm assuming Froch advances which makes that decision stink even more.
What if Ward loses 2 and Froch loses, what is the tiebreaker there for 2 guys who haven't fought each other?
What if Allan Green loses to Ward but beats Kessler by KO and ends up tied with Abraham at 3 points? What then would Abraham's tiebreaker against Taylor kick in?
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This is super relevant to Bute too in a way because he'll likely be fighting one of the 5 or 6 guys as they will be among the only guys available to fight most likely.
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Just like with every other part of this farcical tournament they make the rules up as they go along
Just as long as the system involves ensuring andre dirrell or andre ward eventually win the tournament it`ll be just dandy for those running this at showtime:(:(:(
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Re: Super 6 Tiebreaking Rules?
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HattonTheHomo
Just like with every other part of this farcical tournament they make the rules up as they go along
Just as long as the system involves ensuring andre dirrell or andre ward eventually win the tournament it`ll be just dandy for those running this at showtime:(:(:(
wtf?
How has the tournament shown favouritism to those guys so far?
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Bilbo
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HattonTheHomo
Just like with every other part of this farcical tournament they make the rules up as they go along
Just as long as the system involves ensuring andre dirrell or andre ward eventually win the tournament it`ll be just dandy for those running this at showtime:(:(:(
wtf?
How has the tournament shown favouritism to those guys so far?
The best fighter in the tournament and pre tourney favourite is given the toughest groupings by having to fight dirrell, kessler and abraham with the last 2 being the toughest match ups both requiring him to fight away from home.
The andres get comfortable home town match ups one of which immidiately gets to fight the weakest fighter in the tourney coming off the back of his blatant cheating against kessler while the other one feigns injury and gets the win instead of an automatic DQ for play acting
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Who knows?
Also, why wouldn't Showtime want Froch to win against Kessler? Who's more appealing to the Americans, some guy from a country most couldn't place on the right side of the continent or a dumb yet fairly exciting Brit. What is their motivation for conspiring to kick Froch out?
You're attitude is why good ideas don't last in boxing or at least catch on. It's not rigged, there have been some extraordinary circumstances and one horrendous decision. In reality the Abraham-Dirrell fight isn't controversial in the least, pretty cut and dry actually as even if he was acting, you can't get DQ'd for acting, only hitting someone flush while they are on one knee not looking at you.
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amat
Who knows?
Also, why wouldn't Showtime want Froch to win against Kessler? Who's more appealing to the Americans, some guy from a country most couldn't place on the right side of the continent or a dumb yet fairly exciting Brit. What is their motivation for conspiring to kick Froch out?
You're attitude is why good ideas don't last in boxing.
Why dont we just say if we are gonna have a fair non-biased competition such as this we will hold every single fight in neutral venues thus ensuring that the real winner will provail every time
the current super 6 reads;
ward 3
abraham 3
Froch 2
kessler 2
Dirrell 2
green 0
had the results of been fair it would now read:
abraham 5
froch 4
kessler 2
ward 0
green 0
dirrell 0
see how the american thing comes into play
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So Kessler beats Ward in a neutral location? Am I going to have to dig up some of your day-after posts HTHomo?
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Hammer did you suffer a heavy fall on your head on the weekend?
Did you miss the Froch/Dirrell fight? I scored that fight 117-110 to Dirrell.
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I keep forgetting not to try to debate with the drunk. Not sure you're at a full blown alcoholic stage yet but you certainly play the part well enough on here.
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skel1983
Hammer did you suffer a heavy fall on your head on the weekend?
Did you miss the Froch/Dirrell fight? I scored that fight 117-110 to Dirrell.
good for you, thankfully justice provailed and the better fighter won out in the end
Amat - i really just cant deal with you right now. Your beyond retarded and i somehow find your quibberings to be of great annoyance
I meant kessler should of got the DQ win on several occasions for the fact ward fought a large part of the fight with his head
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;D There were 2 accidental headbutts and one that looked bad and was damaging but was also accidental and even then one headbutt can't get you a DQ. They could have taken 5 points from Ward and he still would have won. And a 5 point penalty would have been excessive. Edison Miranda tried to headbutt AA's face off and he only got deducted like 2 points.
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HattonTheHomo
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amat
Who knows?
Also, why wouldn't Showtime want Froch to win against Kessler? Who's more appealing to the Americans, some guy from a country most couldn't place on the right side of the continent or a dumb yet fairly exciting Brit. What is their motivation for conspiring to kick Froch out?
You're attitude is why good ideas don't last in boxing.
Why dont we just say if we are gonna have a fair non-biased competition such as this we will hold every single fight in neutral venues thus ensuring that the real winner will provail every time
the current super 6 reads;
ward 3
abraham 3
Froch 2
kessler 2
Dirrell 2
green 0
had the results of been fair it would now read:
abraham 5
froch 4
kessler 2
ward 0
green 0
dirrell 0
see how the american thing comes into play
Actually if the results would of been fair, Andre Dirrell would have 4 points and Carl Froch would have 0.
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Froch is only 10 seconds (against Taylor) away from having lost 3 in a row ;D
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HattonTheHomo
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Originally Posted by
amat
Who knows?
Also, why wouldn't Showtime want Froch to win against Kessler? Who's more appealing to the Americans, some guy from a country most couldn't place on the right side of the continent or a dumb yet fairly exciting Brit. What is their motivation for conspiring to kick Froch out?
You're attitude is why good ideas don't last in boxing.
Why dont we just say if we are gonna have a fair non-biased competition such as this we will hold every single fight in neutral venues thus ensuring that the real winner will provail every time
the current super 6 reads;
ward 3
abraham 3
Froch 2
kessler 2
Dirrell 2
green 0
had the results of been fair it would now read:
abraham 5
froch 4
kessler 2
ward 0
green 0
dirrell 0
see how the american thing comes into play
First, Ward only has 2 points, not 3.
You are wrong about two things. One, the pre-tournmanet favorite was Kessler, not Froch. Go back and check the odds. Kessler was the most marketable and well-known (other than Taylor) fighter going into the tournament.
Second, the toughest schedule is by far that of the Americans, Taylor/Green, with fights against the three toughest challengers and all on their opponent's turf. Taylor/Green fights Abraham (in Germany)/Ward (in Oakland)/Kessler (in Denmark), which is tougher than Froch's Dirrell (In Nottingham), Kessler (Denmark), Abraham (in Neutral Territory).
Third, Abraham had the weakest schedule with Taylor (in Germany)/Dirrell (In Michigan)/Froch(in Neutral Territory).
Lastly, either way you look at it, the Froch-Dirrell fight was very close. Yet, Froch got the win!! If this was some American Showtime conspiracy, Dirrell would have got a win in a close fight. Correct?
Showtime is in this for profit. Do you really think Ward/Dirrell are the most profitable fighters in the tournament? By far, the two most profitable fighters in the tournament are Kessler and Abraham. It's not even close.
One more thing, You don't think Abraham should have been DQ'd?
If there is anything conspiratorial in this tournament, it is that the hometown fighter wins every time.
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BIG H
Froch is only 10 seconds (against Taylor) away from having lost 3 in a row ;D
I was at that fight and I'm telling you that is totally wrong. After approximately the seventh round, there was a huge momentum swing and the you could feel it was just a matter of time before Froch got to him.
As much as you want to say Froch lost against Dirrell, if there is a reason Dirrell wound up with a loss, it's his fault. Much like Froch said after he lost to Mikkel, Dirrell just didn't do enough. In a fight against a champion on his home turf, you have to win convincingly.
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BIG H
Froch is only 10 seconds (against Taylor) away from having lost 3 in a row ;D
Very true..
and even with that 'momentum swing' to froch, the judges cards STILL had Taylor winning even with that knockdown in the last round before the KO.. so regardless of momentum, which means nothing on a score card, if Taylor didn't get KO'd that really was 3 fights Froch was on the verge of losing..
as i said before this past weekends fight, Froch is very beatable, and for HTH to say he's the best super middle of the last decade or whatever, is ridiculous..
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Rantcatrat
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BIG H
Froch is only 10 seconds (against Taylor) away from having lost 3 in a row ;D
I was at that fight and I'm telling you that is totally wrong. After approximately the seventh round, there was a huge momentum swing and the you could feel it was just a matter of time before Froch got to him.
As much as you want to say Froch lost against Dirrell, if there is a reason Dirrell wound up with a loss, it's his fault. Much like Froch said after he lost to Mikkel, Dirrell just didn't do enough. In a fight against a champion on his home turf, you have to win convincingly.
Well said rant
froch took at least 2 of the opening 6 and the complete second half of that fight
Dont get me wrong i only carl a point up going into the last round and wouldnt of cried foul had that of been a mandatory 10-9 taylor last round.
But world championship boxing in this day and age is a 12round affair and if you arent able to manage that it doesnt matter what you do in the 1st 11
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BIG H
Froch is only 10 seconds (against Taylor) away from having lost 3 in a row ;D
Thank Christ someone said it.
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I actaully throught Froch had the toughest draw.
Abraham and Kessler are the two toughest and Dirrell is a spolier.
Froch won all day long against Dirrell, without a shadow of a doubt, but was never going to be a convincing win because of Dirrells tactics.
Does anyone have/ can put up the fixtures of each fighter? I'm curious now to see who has been fighting who.
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0james0
I actaully throught Froch had the toughest draw.
Abraham and Kessler are the two toughest and Dirrell is a spolier.
Froch won all day long against Dirrell, without a shadow of a doubt, but was never going to be a convincing win because of Dirrells tactics.
Does anyone have/ can put up the fixtures of each fighter? I'm curious now to see who has been fighting who.
Ward fights Kessler/Green/Dirrell
Dirrell fights Froch/Abraham/Ward
Froch fights Dirrell/Kessler/Abraham
Abraham fights Taylor/Dirrell/Froch
Green fights Ward/Kessler
Kessler fights Ward/Froch/Green
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HattonTheHomo
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Rantcatrat
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BIG H
Froch is only 10 seconds (against Taylor) away from having lost 3 in a row ;D
I was at that fight and I'm telling you that is totally wrong. After approximately the seventh round, there was a huge momentum swing and the you could feel it was just a matter of time before Froch got to him.
As much as you want to say Froch lost against Dirrell, if there is a reason Dirrell wound up with a loss, it's his fault. Much like Froch said after he lost to Mikkel, Dirrell just didn't do enough. In a fight against a champion on his home turf, you have to win convincingly.
Well said rant
froch took at least 2 of the opening 6 and the complete second half of that fight
Dont get me wrong
i only carl a point up going into the last round and wouldnt of cried foul had that of been a mandatory 10-9 taylor last round.
But world championship boxing in this day and age is a 12round affair and if you arent able to manage that it doesnt matter what you do in the 1st 11
Wow just wow
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ICB
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HattonTheHomo
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Rantcatrat
I was at that fight and I'm telling you that is totally wrong. After approximately the seventh round, there was a huge momentum swing and the you could feel it was just a matter of time before Froch got to him.
As much as you want to say Froch lost against Dirrell, if there is a reason Dirrell wound up with a loss, it's his fault. Much like Froch said after he lost to Mikkel, Dirrell just didn't do enough. In a fight against a champion on his home turf, you have to win convincingly.
Well said rant
froch took at least 2 of the opening 6 and the complete second half of that fight
Dont get me wrong
i only carl a point up going into the last round and wouldnt of cried foul had that of been a mandatory 10-9 taylor last round.
But world championship boxing in this day and age is a 12round affair and if you arent able to manage that it doesnt matter what you do in the 1st 11
Wow just wow
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Froch was severely outpointed, outboxed and outclassed... I don't see how HThomo could possibly saw Froch leading on points by any mean
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Nameless
Ha ha, only in America!!!;D
