Just starting now these two are quite exciting fighters could be a bit of a classic but I think Murray has a bit to much class.
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Just starting now these two are quite exciting fighters could be a bit of a classic but I think Murray has a bit to much class.
Anyone want a link pm me.
Tough cookie this Buckland.
Murray v Mitchell would be amazing.
What a great scrap, kudos to Buckland, he deserved to go the distance
Murray was excellent and stone cold. Good fighter.
Spot on. F**k man, Buckland is masde of stone though. He took a serious beat down before it got stopped...Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Would love to see Murray vs Katsidis or Diaz myself
Murray is a good fighter and his defence was much better tonight, his head still a little stationary for me needs to get that moving as he moves up a level or two. First off dump fat Mick and get with Hatton he has all the contacts with Golden Boy and all the 135 fighters are with Golden boy Katsidis,Diaz,Marquez makes sense I guarantee he went to Hatton we would see Murray v a Diaz or similar fighter on a huge PPV bill in Vegas, he is wasting his career with fat useless Mick.
Murray is good enough to win a title for sure imo.
Definately. I still think he's improvin a bit. Just mad for TV is John. Bring it every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
That was a right good dust-up and no mistake. Buckland was brave and gave everything he had, and did get through to Murray a few times. Murray however showed he's above domestic class, winning the Lonsdale belt outright, and is probably on his way to a world title shot. His defence is leaky though, Buckland caught him flush plenty of times, although didn't have the power to really trouble him.
Wherever Murray goes from here, it'll be entertaining.
We are two of John's biggest fans mate, great performance tonight considering he had been out for 7 months and in that fight only went 4 rounds, he looked sharp tonight lets hope he can kick on, he has never really had his chin tested that is my only worry but if he has a decent chin I think he would be to strong for Kevin Mitchell for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianDefinately. I still think he's improvin a bit. Just mad for TV is John. Bring it every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Your prob not wrong there pal. I really think we haven't seen the best yet. He has been pretty inactive for a young fighgter since day dot really. Taken a few shit match-up at short notice. He'll step up more when the occasions suits i'm sure of it. And as Super says, where ever he goes from here it will certainly be entertaining. He could take a few top good fighters to hell and back for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983We are two of John's biggest fans mate, great performance tonight considering he had been out for 7 months and in that fight only went 4 rounds, he looked sharp tonight lets hope he can kick on, he has never really had his chin tested that is my only worry but if he has a decent chin I think he would be to strong for Kevin Mitchell for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianDefinately. I still think he's improvin a bit. Just mad for TV is John. Bring it every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Sorry but no way, i like John Murray and i think he's a good honest fighter. But if he got a gift decision against Youseef Al Hamidi. Who gave him all sorts of trouble with his stick and move style.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983We are two of John's biggest fans mate, great performance tonight considering he had been out for 7 months and in that fight only went 4 rounds, he looked sharp tonight lets hope he can kick on, he has never really had his chin tested that is my only worry but if he has a decent chin I think he would be to strong for Kevin Mitchell for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianDefinately. I still think he's improvin a bit. Just mad for TV is John. Bring it every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Then Kevin Mitchell would totally befuddle him, John Murray is simply too one dimensional and he come's straight forward in straight lines. Kevin Mitchell would use angles and totally outbox him.
John Murray should avoid boxers and fight someone like Juan Diaz, David Diaz.
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Originally Posted by ICBSorry but no way, i like John Murray and i think he's a good honest fighter. But if he got a gift decision against Youseef Al Hamidi. Who gave him all sorts of trouble with his stick and move style.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983We are two of John's biggest fans mate, great performance tonight considering he had been out for 7 months and in that fight only went 4 rounds, he looked sharp tonight lets hope he can kick on, he has never really had his chin tested that is my only worry but if he has a decent chin I think he would be to strong for Kevin Mitchell for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagician
Then Kevin Mitchell would totally befuddle him, John Murray is simply too one dimensional and he come's straight forward in straight lines. Kevin Mitchell would use angles and totally outbox him.
John Murray should avoid boxers and fight someone like Juan Diaz, David Diaz.
You seem to always mention the fight against Al Hamidi that was an off night John Murray preforms better when the opponents are higher standard, so now Mitchell is some boxing technition? Mitchell was about to be stopped by Carl Johanasen till he turned it round at 130, Murray is a big lightweight, Mitchell against Murray would be a good fight my money is on Murray.
Thats because John Murray has never ever met anyother boxers, except maybe John Thaxton but he's old and shot. John Murray looks good against fighters that come towards, because that's all he can do he's very one dimensional.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBSorry but no way, i like John Murray and i think he's a good honest fighter. But if he got a gift decision against Youseef Al Hamidi. Who gave him all sorts of trouble with his stick and move style.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Then Kevin Mitchell would totally befuddle him, John Murray is simply too one dimensional and he come's straight forward in straight lines. Kevin Mitchell would use angles and totally outbox him.
John Murray should avoid boxers and fight someone like Juan Diaz, David Diaz.
You seem to always mention the fight against Al Hamidi that was an off night John Murray preforms better when the opponents are higher standard, so now Mitchell is some boxing technition? Mitchell was about to be stopped by Carl Johanasen till he turned it round at 130, Murray is a big lightweight, Mitchell against Murray would be a good fight my money is on Murray.
Kevin Mitchell was never close to being stopped by Carl Johanneson, it was a back and forth battle. But Kevin Mitchell never looked like being stop at any point in the fight.
And thats only because Kevin Mitchell stood and traded with him, he's an improved boxer and he has more dimensions than John Murray.
And i don't care care if that was an off night, John Murray still shouldn't be getting gift decisions off fighters with losing record's. And that fight just tells me he can't adjust and he'd be picked apart by a good boxer.
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Originally Posted by ICBThats because John Murray has never ever met anyother boxers, except maybe John Thaxton but he's old and shot. John Murray looks good against fighters that come towards, because that's all he can do he's very one dimensional.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
You seem to always mention the fight against Al Hamidi that was an off night John Murray preforms better when the opponents are higher standard, so now Mitchell is some boxing technition? Mitchell was about to be stopped by Carl Johanasen till he turned it round at 130, Murray is a big lightweight, Mitchell against Murray would be a good fight my money is on Murray.
Kevin Mitchell was never close to being stopped by Carl Johanneson, it was a back and forth battle. But Kevin Mitchell never looked like being stop at any point in the fight.
And thats only because Kevin Mitchell stood and traded with him, he's an improved boxer and he has more dimensions than John Murray.
And i don't care care if that was an off night, John Murray still shouldn't be getting gift decisions off fighters with losing record's. And that fight just tells me he can't adjust and he'd be picked apart by a good boxer.
Did you miss the Lee Mcallister fight? He is the best boxer he has ever faced.
I haven't seen that one mate, i've seen most of his fights. Especially his recent ones, but i don't know why i missed that one. I'll have to check that one out later.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBThats because John Murray has never ever met anyother boxers, except maybe John Thaxton but he's old and shot. John Murray looks good against fighters that come towards, because that's all he can do he's very one dimensional.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Kevin Mitchell was never close to being stopped by Carl Johanneson, it was a back and forth battle. But Kevin Mitchell never looked like being stop at any point in the fight.
And thats only because Kevin Mitchell stood and traded with him, he's an improved boxer and he has more dimensions than John Murray.
And i don't care care if that was an off night, John Murray still shouldn't be getting gift decisions off fighters with losing record's. And that fight just tells me he can't adjust and he'd be picked apart by a good boxer.
Did you miss the Lee Mcallister fight? He is the best boxer he has ever faced.
To be fair Lee was having good spells in the fight and was outboxing John until John just made him fight his fight, I am not saying Murray is the new superstar or anything but he is capable of beating Mitchell imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI haven't seen that one mate, i've seen most of his fights. Especially his recent ones, but i don't know why i missed that one. I'll have to check that one out later.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Did you miss the Lee Mcallister fight? He is the best boxer he has ever faced.
For me, Murray will certainly get beat if he comes up against a quality slick boxer or someone with great variety and power. Until then, he'll keep imposing his will, and I believe he would impose that will on Mitchell too and give him a beat down. No way Mitchell has the power to keep Murray off IMO. Mitchells one fight where he boxed very well was against Prescott, who was and is at best a lucky punch fighter. I'd probably say that Lee McCallister has better boxing skills, movement and variety than Mitchell does. Mitchell, at heart certainly likes to trade so it wouldn't take too many rounds of not being able to keep a guy off him for him to fire back.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983To be fair Lee was having good spells in the fight and was outboxing John until John just made him fight his fight, I am not saying Murray is the new superstar or anything but he is capable of beating Mitchell imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI haven't seen that one mate, i've seen most of his fights. Especially his recent ones, but i don't know why i missed that one. I'll have to check that one out later.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Ice, still think Mitchell befuddles Murray?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBSorry but no way, i like John Murray and i think he's a good honest fighter. But if he got a gift decision against Youseef Al Hamidi. Who gave him all sorts of trouble with his stick and move style.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983We are two of John's biggest fans mate, great performance tonight considering he had been out for 7 months and in that fight only went 4 rounds, he looked sharp tonight lets hope he can kick on, he has never really had his chin tested that is my only worry but if he has a decent chin I think he would be to strong for Kevin Mitchell for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianDefinately. I still think he's improvin a bit. Just mad for TV is John. Bring it every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Then Kevin Mitchell would totally befuddle him, John Murray is simply too one dimensional and he come's straight forward in straight lines. Kevin Mitchell would use angles and totally outbox him.
John Murray should avoid boxers and fight someone like Juan Diaz, David Diaz.
I think Katsidis vs Murray would be an all out war.... Can't wait for it.
Katasidis is a beast, can Murray stand toe to toe with him? Doubt it.
Disagree with Mitchell not looking like getting stopped againt Johansen mate. I thought he was out on his feet at one point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI haven't seen that one mate, i've seen most of his fights. Especially his recent ones, but i don't know why i missed that one. I'll have to check that one out later.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBThats because John Murray has never ever met anyother boxers, except maybe John Thaxton but he's old and shot. John Murray looks good against fighters that come towards, because that's all he can do he's very one dimensional.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Kevin Mitchell was never close to being stopped by Carl Johanneson, it was a back and forth battle. But Kevin Mitchell never looked like being stop at any point in the fight.
And thats only because Kevin Mitchell stood and traded with him, he's an improved boxer and he has more dimensions than John Murray.
And i don't care care if that was an off night, John Murray still shouldn't be getting gift decisions off fighters with losing record's. And that fight just tells me he can't adjust and he'd be picked apart by a good boxer.
Did you miss the Lee Mcallister fight? He is the best boxer he has ever faced.
I agree, Johanneson had Mitchell in dire straits in one of the middle rounds, Mitchell survived by the skin of his teeth, and came back to win well, but he was in deep against Johanneson.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono