Quite drunk so came home and decided to watch Manny vs Hatton again

The first time since I watched the fight live:

Wow.

Hatton really was out of his depth.

That was one nasty KO.

Not surprised he has decided to retire.

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Great six minutes of action. ;D

I would have put on Ward vs Gatti. I couldn't believe some of the shots they took and still fought on.

Hatton looked like a zombie in that fight. His face just looked fucking weired, don't you think? Looks like he just got out of bed to tackle a burgler.

I just find the fact they actually shared a ring strange - looking back, it was a total mismatch. Hatton never stood a fucking chance. ;D

The fight has fond memories for me as two of my mates bet me £50 that Hatton would win. They don't really watch boxing just got caught up in the Sky Sports Box Office hype and bet me that Ricky would 'do the business'.

I warned them several times not to bet me as he didn't have a chance in hell but you can only warn people once or twice before you want to shut them up and take their money. ;D

It's easy enough to argue in hindsight that a certain bout was a mismatch. I'm not so sure, Hatton performed poorly to say the least, but nobody was really expecting Hatton to get blown away quite so easily. It's a fight that I struggle to watch. It was like Hatton had a death wish and went out there and did everything he should not have done. His punch resistance was obselete. You could tickle him and he would be wobbling, quite strange.

The RIGHT HOOK murdered Hatton.

The 2004 Technical version of Pacquiao Againts this Hatton would be a great great SLUG FEST.

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It's easy enough to argue in hindsight that a certain bout was a mismatch. I'm not so sure, Hatton performed poorly to say the least, but nobody was really expecting Hatton to get blown away quite so easily. It's a fight that I struggle to watch. It was like Hatton had a death wish and went out there and did everything he should not have done. His punch resistance was obselete. You could tickle him and he would be wobbling, quite strange.

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There where some people on this board, including myself, who felt Hatton had no chance. He was already damaged goods at that point anyways...add to that the constant ballooning of weight in between fights (you could tell he tried to kill himself to make weight for that fight) and his come forward style...and the outcome was not shocking at all IMO.

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Hatton looked like a zombie in that fight. His face just looked fucking weired, don't you think? Looks like he just got out of bed to tackle a burgler.

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Correction...... Burger.

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Hatton looked like a zombie in that fight. His face just looked fucking weired, don't you think? Looks like he just got out of bed to tackle a burgler.

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Correction...... Burger.

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hahaha. thats funny.. and the way he pumps his hand before throwing looks like he toasting a cold one with your burger.

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It's easy enough to argue in hindsight that a certain bout was a mismatch. I'm not so sure, Hatton performed poorly to say the least, but nobody was really expecting Hatton to get blown away quite so easily. It's a fight that I struggle to watch. It was like Hatton had a death wish and went out there and did everything he should not have done. His punch resistance was obselete. You could tickle him and he would be wobbling, quite strange.

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There where some people on this board, including myself, who felt Hatton had no chance. He was already damaged goods at that point anyways...add to that the constant ballooning of weight in between fights (you could tell he tried to kill himself to make weight for that fight) and his come forward style...and the outcome was not shocking at all IMO.

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But to do it in 2 rounds and with Hatton landing only one effective punch was quite something. I certainly never envisaged that it would be quite that one sided. The warning signs were there with Hatton, but being a fan I chose to discard them in the hope that he could do something special.

You see i disagree with this thread. Just like i disagree with alot of people who talk about hatton vs floyd.

Hatton wasn't right for the pac fight. That's obvious to anyone. On paper IMO this wasn't a mismatch. In fact I thought it was a mismatch in the opposite direction. I expected hatton to walk over pac. I was a bit blind to how much the ko loss to floyd had damaged him.

The first round was one sided. The second though up until the KO I would have given to hatton.

Hagler vs Hearns was 3 rounds yet I've never heard someone say that Hagler destroyed Hearns easily.

Bottom line though for me is if cotto fans can discard his loss to margarito citing margarito's cheating with hand wraps....

Do we really know what was in pac's system that night? No we don't at all.

Pac won the fight. I think Ricky should stay retired. TBH he probably should have retired after paulie and gone out on a win. His fighting style changed after the tszyu fight. And the mayweather KO took alot out of him. Then you've got the pac training camp that by all reports was a nightmere.

Manny, yet again, like with cotto and DLH, got the fight at the right time, and it flattered him.

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Originally Posted by miles

But to do it in 2 rounds and with Hatton landing only one effective punch was quite something. I certainly never envisaged that it would be quite that one sided. The warning signs were there with Hatton, but being a fan I chose to discard them in the hope that he could do something special.

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THat was a surprise yes.


But mate please answer me honestly...from the bottom of your heart :)

1. Did you think that Manny Pacquiao being 3 to 1 underdog would dismantle Barrera the way he did?

2. Did you think that he would Knock out Morales in the 2nd fight?

3. Did you think he would dominate Dela haya en route to a TKO win?

4. Did you think that Cotto would be dominated and be stopped?


I was surprised on all 4 occasions and was not expecting those results. though i believe Manny will win.


now Dont you think the outcome of the Pac-Hatton fight was due to more of the performance of Pacquiao rather than Hatton? Manny Pacquiao is capable of surprising us. i think the Hatton fight was just one of them.

man did you guys see Hatton at the Mayweather/Mosley weigh in? Jesus, I dont think he will ever be able to fight at welter if he ever decides to come back and compete.

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Originally Posted by miles

But to do it in 2 rounds and with Hatton landing only one effective punch was quite something. I certainly never envisaged that it would be quite that one sided. The warning signs were there with Hatton, but being a fan I chose to discard them in the hope that he could do something special.

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THat was a surprise yes.


But mate please answer me honestly...from the bottom of your heart :)

1. Did you think that Manny Pacquiao being 3 to 1 underdog would dismantle Barrera the way he did?

2. Did you think that he would Knock out Morales in the 2nd fight?

3. Did you think he would dominate Dela haya en route to a TKO win?

4. Did you think that Cotto would be dominated and be stopped?


I was surprised on all 4 occasions and was not expecting those results. though i believe Manny will win.


now Dont you think the outcome of the Pac-Hatton fight was due to more of the performance of Pacquiao rather than Hatton? Manny Pacquiao is capable of surprising us. i think the Hatton fight was just one of them.

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1. No, I didn't expect that. TBH I wasn't all that aware of Pac at the time.

2. I think I might have actually predicted that one! Hurray!

3. No, I thought Oscar would have been too big

4. No, I thought Cotto might have got to him too. But I was well aware that Cotto could get busted up and possibly stopped.

I agree with you that Manny is capable of surprising us. Blowing Hatton away in 2 was perhaps the biggest surprise for me, but I do think it was a combination of Manny being quality and also of Hatton slipping somewhat. Once you've been knocked out, you are never going to be the same again. Unlike someone like Barrera who could adapt after a loss, Hatton still tried to defend with his face and with a declining chin (which was never the strongest as Lazcano showed) it was a risk and Manny showed it for what it has become. Hatton talked of doing new things, but it was never apparent. He fought with his hands down and chin up and Manny duly taught him a lesson for the recklessness. It was a poor showing from Hatton and I find no way of getting around that.

Told everyone who would listen to get there money on hatton on the night as he would be far too big for pacquiao at the weight. Think i eventually convinced my mates combined to part with around 500quid in total and ive been black listed with my bets ever since :(:(:(

Yup all those things surprised me.

So am I surprised that he don't want a steroid test any time in the near future. Not at all.

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You see i disagree with this thread. Just like i disagree with alot of people who talk about hatton vs floyd.

Hatton wasn't right for the pac fight. That's obvious to anyone. On paper IMO this wasn't a mismatch. In fact I thought it was a mismatch in the opposite direction. I expected hatton to walk over pac. I was a bit blind to how much the ko loss to floyd had damaged him.

The first round was one sided. The second though up until the KO I would have given to hatton.

Hagler vs Hearns was 3 rounds yet I've never heard someone say that Hagler destroyed Hearns easily.

Bottom line though for me is if cotto fans can discard his loss to margarito citing margarito's cheating with hand wraps....

Do we really know what was in pac's system that night? No we don't at all.

Pac won the fight. I think Ricky should stay retired. TBH he probably should have retired after paulie and gone out on a win. His fighting style changed after the tszyu fight. And the mayweather KO took alot out of him. Then you've got the pac training camp that by all reports was a nightmere.

Manny, yet again, like with cotto and DLH, got the fight at the right time, and it flattered him.

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Hahaha you gave Hatton the second round until the knockout? You for fucking real go have another look matey, and I thought HTH was a bit bias! Pac landed at least 15-20 clean shots on Hatton in the 2nd round before he knocled him out. You div.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk-83iZYBKo

Hatton was doing better in the second, but he wasn't winning it. Not by a long shot.

It did look like it could have shaped up into a decent fight though. Disappointing it ended so quick.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

You see i disagree with this thread. Just like i disagree with alot of people who talk about hatton vs floyd.

Hatton wasn't right for the pac fight. That's obvious to anyone. On paper IMO this wasn't a mismatch. In fact I thought it was a mismatch in the opposite direction. I expected hatton to walk over pac. I was a bit blind to how much the ko loss to floyd had damaged him.

The first round was one sided. The second though up until the KO I would have given to hatton.

Hagler vs Hearns was 3 rounds yet I've never heard someone say that Hagler destroyed Hearns easily.

Bottom line though for me is if cotto fans can discard his loss to margarito citing margarito's cheating with hand wraps....

Do we really know what was in pac's system that night? No we don't at all.

Pac won the fight. I think Ricky should stay retired. TBH he probably should have retired after paulie and gone out on a win. His fighting style changed after the tszyu fight. And the mayweather KO took alot out of him. Then you've got the pac training camp that by all reports was a nightmere.

Manny, yet again, like with cotto and DLH, got the fight at the right time, and it flattered him.

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You are comparing Margarito to Pacman? Come on, that is rediculous. Just accept the fact hatton lost.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

You see i disagree with this thread. Just like i disagree with alot of people who talk about hatton vs floyd.

Hatton wasn't right for the pac fight. That's obvious to anyone. On paper IMO this wasn't a mismatch. In fact I thought it was a mismatch in the opposite direction. I expected hatton to walk over pac. I was a bit blind to how much the ko loss to floyd had damaged him.

The first round was one sided. The second though up until the KO I would have given to hatton.

Hagler vs Hearns was 3 rounds yet I've never heard someone say that Hagler destroyed Hearns easily.

Bottom line though for me is if cotto fans can discard his loss to margarito citing margarito's cheating with hand wraps....

Do we really know what was in pac's system that night? No we don't at all.

Pac won the fight. I think Ricky should stay retired. TBH he probably should have retired after paulie and gone out on a win. His fighting style changed after the tszyu fight. And the mayweather KO took alot out of him. Then you've got the pac training camp that by all reports was a nightmere.

Manny, yet again, like with cotto and DLH, got the fight at the right time, and it flattered him.

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You are comparing Margarito to Pacman? Come on, that is rediculous. Just accept the fact hatton lost.

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It is creative. Like Cintron's attempts to not fight anymore.

Prove to me manny pacquiao is clean.


The silence will be deafening.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

You see i disagree with this thread. Just like i disagree with alot of people who talk about hatton vs floyd.

Hatton wasn't right for the pac fight. That's obvious to anyone. On paper IMO this wasn't a mismatch. In fact I thought it was a mismatch in the opposite direction. I expected hatton to walk over pac. I was a bit blind to how much the ko loss to floyd had damaged him.

The first round was one sided. The second though up until the KO I would have given to hatton.

Hagler vs Hearns was 3 rounds yet I've never heard someone say that Hagler destroyed Hearns easily.

Bottom line though for me is if cotto fans can discard his loss to margarito citing margarito's cheating with hand wraps....

Do we really know what was in pac's system that night? No we don't at all.

Pac won the fight. I think Ricky should stay retired. TBH he probably should have retired after paulie and gone out on a win. His fighting style changed after the tszyu fight. And the mayweather KO took alot out of him. Then you've got the pac training camp that by all reports was a nightmere.

Manny, yet again, like with cotto and DLH, got the fight at the right time, and it flattered him.

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Hahaha you gave Hatton the second round until the knockout? You for fucking real go have another look matey, and I thought HTH was a bit bias! Pac landed at least 15-20 clean shots on Hatton in the 2nd round before he knocled him out. You div.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk-83iZYBKo

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Go with the flow son. In fact I'm yet to see you give an opinion that is your own on anything.

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Prove to me manny pacquiao is clean.


The silence will be deafening.

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How can anyone take a clown like you serious when you think Hatton won the second round?

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

You see i disagree with this thread. Just like i disagree with alot of people who talk about hatton vs floyd.

Hatton wasn't right for the pac fight. That's obvious to anyone. On paper IMO this wasn't a mismatch. In fact I thought it was a mismatch in the opposite direction. I expected hatton to walk over pac. I was a bit blind to how much the ko loss to floyd had damaged him.

The first round was one sided. The second though up until the KO I would have given to hatton.

Hagler vs Hearns was 3 rounds yet I've never heard someone say that Hagler destroyed Hearns easily.

Bottom line though for me is if cotto fans can discard his loss to margarito citing margarito's cheating with hand wraps....

Do we really know what was in pac's system that night? No we don't at all.

Pac won the fight. I think Ricky should stay retired. TBH he probably should have retired after paulie and gone out on a win. His fighting style changed after the tszyu fight. And the mayweather KO took alot out of him. Then you've got the pac training camp that by all reports was a nightmere.

Manny, yet again, like with cotto and DLH, got the fight at the right time, and it flattered him.

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Hahaha you gave Hatton the second round until the knockout? You for fucking real go have another look matey, and I thought HTH was a bit bias! Pac landed at least 15-20 clean shots on Hatton in the 2nd round before he knocled him out. You div.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk-83iZYBKo

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Go with the flow son. In fact I'm yet to see you give an opinion that is your own on anything.

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I am still to work out what a clueless turd like you is doing on a boxing forum? Did you take a wrong turning?

Shouldn't you been on some teeny forum where everyone has the same opinion on everything?

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Shouldn't you been on some teeny forum where everyone has the same opinion on everything?

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Knowledge is a killer. Stick to making threads about your little pecker fella.

Yes it is. Shame you have no knowledge. If you did you'd give your own opinion and you've never done that.

Stick to following the flock sheep boy.

Seems i've hit a raw nerve. Have you been a follower all your life?

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Yes it is. Shame you have no knowledge. If you did you'd give your own opinion and you've never done that.

Stick to following the flock sheep boy.

Seems i've hit a raw nerve. Have you been a follower all your life?

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Just shows how stupid you are lol.

Pretty stupid, but obviously got enough about me to realize you can't formulate your own opinion on ANYTHING.

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Pretty stupid, but obviously got enough about me to realize you can't formulate your own opinion on ANYTHING.

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Haha it you say so, but seriously how can you expect anyone to take you seriously? When you think Hatton won the second round? You and HTH are like the Chuckle Brothers when it comes to Hatton. You can be called Barry from now on.

Good for you my wooley friend.

Now if you want to stop hijacking the thread with your child like name calling some people who actually have their own opinion on things want to talk about boxing.

Now go and be a good tart, make yourself useful and put the tea on.

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Good for you my wooley friend.

Now if you want to stop hijacking the thread with your child like name calling some people who actually have their own opinion on things want to talk about boxing.

Now go and be a good tart, make yourself useful and put the tea on.

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Come on Barry you and boxing just don't go.

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Good for you my wooley friend.

Now if you want to stop hijacking the thread with your child like name calling some people who actually have their own opinion on things want to talk about boxing.

Now go and be a good tart, make yourself useful and put the tea on.

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Come on Barry you and boxing just don't go.

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You and your own opinion don't go Mr Sheepy hahahaha!

Every poll now should go with a final option 'The skel option; whatever anyone else thinks.'

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Good for you my wooley friend.

Now if you want to stop hijacking the thread with your child like name calling some people who actually have their own opinion on things want to talk about boxing.

Now go and be a good tart, make yourself useful and put the tea on.

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Come on Barry you and boxing just don't go.

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You and your own opinion don't go Mr Sheepy hahahaha!

Every poll now should go with a final option 'The skel option; whatever anyone else thinks.'

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Laughing at yourself now Barry, good lad.

I will give you that you add that comic value to this forum, you are useful at times.

Shame that. I'd repay the compliment but I can't think of anything you are useful for.

Thanks anyway.

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Told everyone who would listen to get there money on hatton on the night as he would be far too big for pacquiao at the weight. Think i eventually convinced my mates combined to part with around 500quid in total and ive been black listed with my bets ever since :(:(:(

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thats brilliant mate :LOLATYOU: