Manny don't fight many black fighters and I don't think he's ever fought an African Amercian. You think he's scared ? Maybe this steroid issue is just a smoke screen for he knows he can't beat Mayweather.
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Manny don't fight many black fighters and I don't think he's ever fought an African Amercian. You think he's scared ? Maybe this steroid issue is just a smoke screen for he knows he can't beat Mayweather.
Josh Clottey lives in the Bronx now, pretty sure that makes him an African American.
Morales and barrera r African Americans
Just kidding, manny ain't scared of no fukker, I'm pretty sure he'd fight anyone in front of him
You prolly right, just throwing it out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by paddy448
mannys never fought a sith lordQuote:
Originally Posted by denilson200You prolly right, just throwing it out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by paddy448
Does that make him a very hesitant jedi??
Throw it right out, it is silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200You prolly right, just throwing it out there.Quote:
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You Sir are an idiot , and also , Kid Thunder now has some competition for the dumbest idiot on SADDO'S , his excuse is hes punch drunk and didn't go to school , whats your excuse ?
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Originally Posted by denilson200
You Sir are an idiot , and also , Kid Thunder now has some competition for the dumbest idiot on SADDO'S , his excuse is hes punch drunk and didn't go to school , whats your excuse ?
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Maybe he watched Boyz N Da Hood & The Wire and became concerned that Mayweather might bring Omar Little and his shottie to the ring with him :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Manny's PROMOTER isn't keen on him fighting slick fighters, that is clear to me. Manny ain't scared of fighting anybody.
Manny isn't scared of fighting anybody his promoter asks him too anyway...
"Who do you want next Manny"
"Speak to my promoter, I'm just doingk my job"
I get the feeling that he's quite happily steered...
I think in boxing "black" and "slick" are coupled but he did fight clottey who is a true "african american" floyd was born in Michigan..last I checked it's apart of the united states which makes him American..not african, come to think of it hell both his parents were born in the states too....
I think his handlers have kept him away from slick fighters until they felt he was ready to face the best which is floyd. The drug test shit is a bit fishy though. Even if floyd did somehow pull this out of his ass, if manny is clean why not take it?
I also have a theory ....... the Pacman has also never fought a Welshman from Porthcawl. Clearly, he is therefore living in mortal fear of ever having to meet one.
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you beat me to that.. hell pac is scared and s****ing on his pants if he sees Migthy Mike..Quote:
Originally Posted by X
I don't think any fighter is scared of any other guy or they wouldn't be in this buisness in the first place. Black fighters hit and get hit just like any other guy. Any time race is brought into this sport for any reason it usually is due to a lack of boxing knowledge in general. Why would manny be scared of anyone ? All the scared, ducking talk reguardless of the fighter is usually from fans mainly those willing to tell others how to play thier sport instead of playing one of thier own. Boxing is what it is. In a perfect world the no guy would always fight the no 2 guy but that just aint how it is unfortunatly. There's money, promoters, and a whole slew of shady people that have to agree to get these fights we want. If any of us were fighters we'd be doing the same thing cause you really don't have a choice. Fighters on any level are some of the bravest althleats there are, easy to say do this do that fight him fight that guy, sitting up in the stands.
This reply might be inappropriate but pls let me. :)
Kevin Kelley just got dominated by Marco Antonio Barrera before Barrera himself got massacred by Pacquiao.
Derrick Gainer Ran, ran, ran, and ran from Juan Manuel Marquez in losing his strap before Pacquiao and JMM settled for a draw.
Mark Johnson is too small for 122.
Freddie Norwood went hiding for 6 years (2000-2006) after losing to Gainer
Pacquiao fighting these 4 instead of Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar Larios ? That would be an enigmatic decision.
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Originally Posted by denilson200
You Sir are an idiot , and also , Kid Thunder now has some competition for the dumbest idiot on SADDO'S , his excuse is hes punch drunk and didn't go to school , whats your excuse ?
And what's the link between afro americans and the scare to fight Floyd Mayweather?Quote:
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gavin rees owns pacquiao every day of the week
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammermannys never fought a sith lordQuote:
Originally Posted by denilson200You prolly right, just throwing it out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by paddy448
Does that make him a very hesitant jedi??
What about fighting Erik Morales after Zahir Raheem outboxed him silly over 12? They turned the Raheem fight down. I'm sure Pac is scared of no one but styles do make fights and a slick boxer is the worst matchup for Pac's style. I'm sure Freddie Roach is aware of that. High risk low reward. This is merely a business move. Its the style not the race. It has nothing to do with being scared though. Every fighter has a bad style matchup.Quote:
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Originally Posted by blegitWhat about fighting Erik Morales after Zahir Raheem outboxed him silly over 12? They turned the Raheem fight down. I'm sure Pac is scared of no one but styles do make fights and a slick boxer is the worst matchup for Pac's style. I'm sure Freddie Roach is aware of that. High risk low reward. This is merely a business move. Its the style not the race. It has nothing to do with being scared though. Every fighter has a bad style matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
then youve misquoted yourself as your clearly of the opinion that all black fighters are "slick"
Where did I misquote myself? And how did you get I think all black fighters are slick? I named one fighter, Raheem, who is slick. And you somehow came up with that I think all black fighters are slick??? So if Raheem was white then I would think all white fighters are slick??? Umm, doesn't he have to be some race? I don't know how to make this any simpler for you. But once again, I said its not the race and Pac is not scared of any fighter. Its the style. Manny is easy to hit but he banks off the fighter being there to be hit back. A slick fighter wouldn't be so compromising. And a bad matchup doesn't mean a loss it only means a higher risk and/or not looking good in a win. Ex. Castillo/Mayweather.Quote:
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Originally Posted by blegitWhat about fighting Erik Morales after Zahir Raheem outboxed him silly over 12? They turned the Raheem fight down. I'm sure Pac is scared of no one but styles do make fights and a slick boxer is the worst matchup for Pac's style. I'm sure Freddie Roach is aware of that. High risk low reward. This is merely a business move. Its the style not the race. It has nothing to do with being scared though. Every fighter has a bad style matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
then youve misquoted yourself as your clearly of the opinion that all black fighters are "slick"
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Originally Posted by blegitWhat about fighting Erik Morales after Zahir Raheem outboxed him silly over 12? They turned the Raheem fight down. I'm sure Pac is scared of no one but styles do make fights and a slick boxer is the worst matchup for Pac's style. I'm sure Freddie Roach is aware of that. High risk low reward. This is merely a business move. Its the style not the race. It has nothing to do with being scared though. Every fighter has a bad style matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
You have a point about Raheem... but ERIK Morales just beat him 10 months prior...He need to settle a more urgent matter. besides he cant fight everybody Im sure there are hundreds of 'slick' boxers out there black or otherwise and it isnt Pac's obligation to fight all of them.
The bolded from your post answers your question.
I think they have done their best to keep Manny away from the slick style associated with african american boxers, but I think only FLoyd Mayweather is really good enough to exploit it against Manny who would beat pretty much anyone else. However I think Manny has had troubles with taller, slicker boxers Jorge Solis was the closest guy to that style, and he gave Manny all kinds of problems getting in, and he wasn't even close to the best guy at the style. One other thing is that slick american boxers take better, sharper angles than Manny, they are quick themselves, and they can fight on the inside which is a huge hole in Manny's game that most can't exploit because his footwork is usually too fast, and he is too powerful and explosive to keep on the ropes for most guys, but I think a good defensive tactician could really control the pace with Manny just the way Marquez often did in their encounters.
Yeah, I know why they turned down the fight I was just putting that glaring missing one in there with your lists of fighters. But I'm not one of those guys who expect the world out of Pac and expect him to fight all the slick fighters. It just would've been nice if he would've at least fought 1 of those hundreds of slick fighters you speak of. Especially Raheem who was the most talented and problematic.Quote:
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Originally Posted by blegitWhat about fighting Erik Morales after Zahir Raheem outboxed him silly over 12? They turned the Raheem fight down. I'm sure Pac is scared of no one but styles do make fights and a slick boxer is the worst matchup for Pac's style. I'm sure Freddie Roach is aware of that. High risk low reward. This is merely a business move. Its the style not the race. It has nothing to do with being scared though. Every fighter has a bad style matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
You have a point about Raheem... but ERIK Morales just beat him 10 months prior...He need to settle a more urgent matter. besides he cant fight everybody Im sure there are hundreds of 'slick' boxers out there black or otherwise and it isnt Pac's obligation to fight all of them.
The bolded from your post answers your question.
Yes he is, Pacquiao is a cherry picking coward like Wlad as the Brits would say.
Thats funny you said pac is being kept away from slick style black boxers....yet pacs camp has been trying to negotiate a fight with the best slick style black boxer. wtf? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
The funnier thing is a lot of people don't know that Manny is a slick boxer too. It is now one of his new arsenals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainThats funny you said pac is being kept away from slick style black boxers....yet pacs camp has been trying to negotiate a fight with the best slick style black boxer. wtf? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
The biggest mistakes by these fools are that they continue to underestimate pac. You know those two knock out loses in pacs early career have help. It still amazes me everytime pacs oppenent realizes during a fight that the combos will not stop coming. Its like they never prepared to fight pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::The funnier thing is a lot of people don't know that Manny is a slick boxer too. It is now one of his new arsenals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainThats funny you said pac is being kept away from slick style black boxers....yet pacs camp has been trying to negotiate a fight with the best slick style black boxer. wtf? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Exactly. Imho, the only key for them to be fully prepared for Manny is to find a sparring mate as fast as him, throw power combos in many angles, someone who is a non-stop whirlwind. I bet that "someone" doesn't exist yet aside from Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainThe biggest mistakes by these fools are that they continue to underestimate pac. You know those two knock out loses in pacs early career have help. It still amazes me everytime pacs oppenent realizes during a fight that the combos will not stop coming. Its like they never prepared to fight pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::The funnier thing is a lot of people don't know that Manny is a slick boxer too. It is now one of his new arsenals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainThats funny you said pac is being kept away from slick style black boxers....yet pacs camp has been trying to negotiate a fight with the best slick style black boxer. wtf? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Ofcourse, they have to look for a trainer someone like Roach too.
Smokescreen... stop running and sign the dotted line, now! Please, pretty, please!