Klitschko junior refuses random drug testing

The heavyweight champion of the world, Wladimir Klitschko, is not interested in Alexander Povetkin's request for both fighters to take part in random drug tests under the company WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency)......

Older "brother" Vitali Klitschko believes this is a tactic by Povetkin's team to avoid the fight. He says Wladimir will not accept these drug testing terms.

Klitschko Will Not Accept Povetkin's Drug Test Demands - Boxing News



I knew it! Those man-made motherfunkers have been on steroids their entire careers. Vitali tested positive for steroids in 1996 and now we get confirmation that both of them have been on steroids their entire careers. It looks like we only have one legitimate claimant for heavyweight champion now that they've been exposed.

This is something Teddy feels strongly about, it's not a bad idea. I'd like to see just everyone take any tests asked of them but obviously that's not realistic. This is a bad wind up attempt but it would be nice if these fighters couldn't hide behind relatively soft commissions and money hungry sanctioning bodies who don't want to shell out extra money for extra testing.

I would like to see this fight, Povetkin is an often overlooked heavyweight who has an awesome gimmick with the hot russian girls he enters with and all.

Why would you put 'brother' in quotations? Are you implying that they aren't actually brothers?

If Povetkin feels it is needed then so be it. As a professional sportsman you should should never be looking to avoid random drug testing....unless you are using.

Klitschko should go through with the tests as a 'clean' fighter has nothing to hide. What's the big deal getting a little blood drawn a few times whilst in camp? Is Wlad from the jungle too?

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Originally Posted by amat

Why would you put 'brother' in quotations? Are you implying that they aren't actually brothers?

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I read it as a racial slur to be honest.

He should be banned with immediate effect in my opinion.

Either that or he is implying that they are the same person.





















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It's my opinion that as a professional athlete in today's climate, the onus is on you to prove you aren't cheating. Obviously athletes themselves are likely not going to feel the same way especially when a champion is being asked to take the tests by a challenger, an element only boxing provides.

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Originally Posted by amat

It's my opinion that as a professional athlete in today's climate, the onus is on you to prove you aren't cheating. Obviously athletes themselves are likely not going to feel the same way especially when a champion is being asked to take the tests by a challenger, an element only boxing provides.

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Exactly. To refuse the opportunity to create a fair fight is an open invitation for people to question you. Just look at how people responded to Manny, refusing is hardly going to boost your credibility.

Difference is that everybody in the world wants the PBF-Pac fight, so Mayweather has a lot more leverage then does Povetkin.

This can only be a good thing, and Povetkin has every right to ask for this, it's him in there getting punched and most likely KO'd. He deserves to know its on an even playing field.

In further PED news, I read the other day that the Andre Ward-Allan Green fight and most likely the Ward-Dirrell fight will be done with full USADA testing. Only reason there's little news is because all those guys were happy to do it.

That's actually kind of a big deal with the Ward-Green if only because Ward has admitted to taking supplements provided to him by former Balco chief Victor Conte, the guy who supplied Mosley, Bonds and all those other athletes with their PEDs.

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Originally Posted by amat

Why would you put 'brother' in quotations? Are you implying that they aren't actually brothers?

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Duh....everyone knows Klitschko Bros are genetically engineered clones, they eat roids only , no food, and that weird mucous stuff from the Matrix.

Big surprise. It's a blight on pro sports.

I said this before and I'll it again, I'm positive that 90% of the NFL is "positive."

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Difference is that everybody in the world wants the PBF-Pac fight, so Mayweather has a lot more leverage then does Povetkin.

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That's true. But the principle of the issue remains much the same. Less easy to pin down Wlad when other fights will generate just as much money if not more.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

This can only be a good thing, and Povetkin has every right to ask for this, it's him in there getting punched and most likely KO'd. He deserves to know its on an even playing field.

In further PED news, I read the other day that the Andre Ward-Allan Green fight and most likely the Ward-Dirrell fight will be done with full USADA testing. Only reason there's little news is because all those guys were happy to do it.

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Full props to each of them if they have decided to go through with it. I've been critical of both Andre's for their fighting styles, but it's great to see other fighters taking note and taking it further. The commisions have a responsibility to take note and up their game. They are way behind the times at the moment. I'm sick of pricks like Roach saying "let's leave it up the commisions, they are doing a great job". They obviously aren't and changes are needed.

Every sanctioning bodies with the ugly fees they ask should include that type of Test for their belts, it would first give more credibility to boxing and second, support the idea of unification as the price for such tests would be then divided by the number of belts at the key and not solely paid fully by only one organization.

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This can only be a good thing, and Povetkin has every right to ask for this, it's him in there getting punched and most likely KO'd. He deserves to know its on an even playing field.

In further PED news, I read the other day that the Andre Ward-Allan Green fight and most likely the Ward-Dirrell fight will be done with full USADA testing. Only reason there's little news is because all those guys were happy to do it.

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Full props to each of them if they have decided to go through with it. I've been critical of both Andre's for their fighting styles, but it's great to see other fighters taking note and taking it further. The commisions have a responsibility to take note and up their game. They are way behind the times at the moment. I'm sick of pricks like Roach saying "let's leave it up the commisions, they are doing a great job". They obviously aren't and changes are needed.

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Just shows that andre and allan arent cheats

It still completely bemuses me as to why a clean boxer would under any circumstance refuse a test, i cant think of a single reason other than the clear fact they are infact doped up

Hope david haye manages to catch on to this story, be interesting to hear what he has to say on this!

Its just as clear as day that there should be some uniform thing, making everyone take the same thing, at least in all title fights, although that could open some loopholes. Because I bet Wlad gets some support from some other boxers cause no champion is going to want to let a challenger dictate terms.

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Originally Posted by amat

Why would you put 'brother' in quotations? Are you implying that they aren't actually brothers?

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As sinister manmade Soviet laboratory creations the Klitschko "brothers" don't qualify as actual brothers under the standard definition of the word. They may both share a body part donor, maybe one "brother" has one specific organ donor's liver and the other "brother" got his kidneys or something, but that's as close as they get to being able to lay any claim on being brothers.

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Its just as clear as day that there should be some uniform thing, making everyone take the same thing, at least in all title fights, although that could open some loopholes. Because I bet Wlad gets some support from some other boxers cause no champion is going to want to let a challenger dictate terms.

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Povetkin isn't dictating anything. He's making a request that Klitneedle Junior subjects himself to random drug testing and Junior is refusing.

eh, choice of words, still the point remains the same, there are going to be those that sympathize with the champions right to tell the challenger to fuck off.

FWIW I've thought they were both on something for a long time, long before there was ever any controversy over Manny. I mean there's concrete reasons to think so.

The rumor mill is just going to get worse and worse, hence the need for universal testing at the highest level. Cause what are people going to say if Haye doesn't start to bang on this? If Haye doesn't ask for tests?

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

eh, choice of words, still the point remains the same, there are going to be those that sympathize with the champions right to tell the challenger to fuck off.

FWIW I've thought they were both on something for a long time, long before there was ever any controversy over Manny. I mean there's concrete reasons to think so.

The rumor mill is just going to get worse and worse, hence the need for universal testing at the highest level. Cause what are people going to say if Haye doesn't start to bang on this? If Haye doesn't ask for tests?

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Somehow I don't see people like Haye or Adamek making a lot of noise about random drug testing.

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Originally Posted by amat

Why would you put 'brother' in quotations? Are you implying that they aren't actually brothers?

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As sinister manmade Soviet laboratory creations the Klitschko "brothers" don't qualify as actual brothers under the standard definition of the word. They may both share a body part donor, maybe one "brother" has one specific organ donor's liver and the other "brother" got his kidneys or something, but that's as close as they get to being able to lay any claim on being brothers.

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Maybe the same company made the bolts that fix their heads onto their bodies but that doesn't qualify them as brothers either.

Why is it when random drug testing is brought up and stuff the fighter thats supposed to be clean won't do it because "its an excuse for him to duck me"


It would be an excuse to duck if it prevents the fight from happening cause you don't want to be drug tested. He can't 'duck' the fight if you just say yes to it cause you aren't using.

So if he doesn't accept it he is just as guilty. Wonder how long this "he only wants me to drug test so he can duck me" as an excuse for not doing it.

I hate all this drug talk shit. As if fights weren't already hard enough to make now every other fighter is going to follow Floyd's lead and demand proof his opponent is not on PED's.

Hope Wlad sticks to his guns. If i was the undisputed heavyweight champ of the world I'd not be dicated to by some pudgy, pudding bowl haired inferior either.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I hate all this drug talk shit. As if fights weren't already hard enough to make now every other fighter is going to follow Floyd's lead and demand proof his opponent is not on PED's.

Hope Wlad sticks to his guns. If i was the undisputed heavyweight champ of the world I'd not be dicated to by some pudgy, pudding bowl haired inferior either.

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I think its nothing but good for the sport, when it goes back to a completely level playing field then we will see some competetive matches.

Maybe Arum will try to sign Wlad up now, after all he has Margarito and Pacquiao;D

The FACT is Povetkin doesn't want to fight Wladimir, Teddy Atlas and the rest of Povetkin's managers and handlers know he isn't ready and that a loss to Wladimir may very well damage his career because then he has to work his way back up to the top again and let's face it, Teddy Atlas is a fair weather trainer he doesn't stick around with guys that lose even 1 fight.

I doubt Wlad declined to do the testing because he's on anything, I mean this is the same guy who said "What's one more vaccination?" when he chose to fight Ruslan Chagaev.

I imagine if the WBA title holder wanted random drug testing Wlad would do it in a heartbeat.

Povetkin has been dragging his feet on this fight since like 2008

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice

The FACT is Povetkin doesn't want to fight Wladimir, Teddy Atlas and the rest of Povetkin's managers and handlers know he isn't ready and that a loss to Wladimir may very well damage his career because then he has to work his way back up to the top again and let's face it, Teddy Atlas is a fair weather trainer he doesn't stick around with guys that lose even 1 fight.

I doubt Wlad declined to do the testing because he's on anything, I mean this is the same guy who said "What's one more vaccination?" when he chose to fight Ruslan Chagaev.

I imagine if the WBA title holder wanted random drug testing Wlad would do it in a heartbeat.

Povetkin has been dragging his feet on this fight since like 2008

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Wlad must either be shitting himself to face Povetkin or he knows he has no chance whithout medical help!

Fuuck me!! It doesnt take a brain surgeon to see how guilty you look when you refuse tests after Manny the midget did;D

Wlad has alaot of money and will have good handlers and they will now be running around like headless chickens wondering what the fuuck to do to not look any worse or like a cheater but its too late:rolleyes:

Make Wladamir take the tests or threaten him with Sanders again, he certail=nly wanted no part of a rematch and hid bahind his big brother, which makes you wonder what hes on, considering he retired because of injuries after rescheduling the Rahman bout god knows how many times;D

all this testing request cr@p is for the birds. until the time ALL sanctioning bodies demand some sort of universal approach to testing, it will only serve to inevitably delay or kill potential fights that should happen.

in this case povetkin and atlas know he has no chance against wladimer. none what so ever. not now, and not in five months or five years. he has not displayed the skill set necessary to defeat wlad. Maybe he does have it.....but I doubt it. I think Adamek would beat the snot out of povetkin.

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Originally Posted by mickel

all this testing request cr@p is for the birds. until the time ALL sanctioning bodies demand some sort of universal approach to testing, it will only serve to inevitably delay or kill potential fights that should happen.

in this case povetkin and atlas know he has no chance against wladimer. none what so ever. not now, and not in five months or five years. he has not displayed the skill set necessary to defeat wlad. Maybe he does have it.....but I doubt it. I think Adamek would beat the snot out of povetkin.

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If its such an easy fight then why doesn't Wladimer accept the drug testing and beat him in the ring?

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Originally Posted by Majesty

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all this testing request cr@p is for the birds. until the time ALL sanctioning bodies demand some sort of universal approach to testing, it will only serve to inevitably delay or kill potential fights that should happen.

in this case povetkin and atlas know he has no chance against wladimer. none what so ever. not now, and not in five months or five years. he has not displayed the skill set necessary to defeat wlad. Maybe he does have it.....but I doubt it. I think Adamek would beat the snot out of povetkin.

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If its such an easy fight then why doesn't Wladimer accept the drug testing and beat him in the ring?

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I 100% agree. Why does it seem like some fighters either take offence at the idea of drug tests or make a big deal about it?

There are many lines of work in which the occasional drug test is mandatory. These fighters should stop acting like a request for tests is a slap in the face, and they need to stop letting pride (or whatever) get in the way. They should know that once they take the tests and come out clean, that's an added plus for their reputation.

You people act like they don't already do drug testing....they do always AND Wladimir has never tested positive.

Povetkin (the challenger) whom has kept stalling at fighting Wlad is now trying to dictate the terms of the fight.

After seeing Povetkin fight Chambers I know and am 100% certain that Povetkin has nothing for Wladimir, he doesn't punch terribly hard, his chin doesn't seem all that sturdy, and he's not big either.

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice

You people act like they don't already do drug testing....they do always AND Wladimir has never tested positive.

Povetkin (the challenger) whom has kept stalling at fighting Wlad is now trying to dictate the terms of the fight.

After seeing Povetkin fight Chambers I know and am 100% certain that Povetkin has nothing for Wladimir, he doesn't punch terribly hard, his chin doesn't seem all that sturdy, and he's not big either.

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Cool Lyle. Sure, it is possible that Povetkin is stalling, but there is no reason in the world THIS tactic of asking for drug testing should be effective. Too easy to get around. Just say "sure, lets do it" and it's a done deal. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice

You people act like they don't already do drug testing....they do always AND Wladimir has never tested positive.

Povetkin (the challenger) whom has kept stalling at fighting Wlad is now trying to dictate the terms of the fight.

After seeing Povetkin fight Chambers I know and am 100% certain that Povetkin has nothing for Wladimir, he doesn't punch terribly hard, his chin doesn't seem all that sturdy, and he's not big either.

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Funny Lyle but I can't remember ever seeing you defend Pacquio over the same thing... ;)

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all this testing request cr@p is for the birds. until the time ALL sanctioning bodies demand some sort of universal approach to testing, it will only serve to inevitably delay or kill potential fights that should happen.

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So you rather have great matches with the risk of one of them or both cheating?

You rather have the line at the airport move faster with less strict checks with the risk of having someone smuggle drugs, a bomb, etc.?

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Originally Posted by Chino

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all this testing request cr@p is for the birds. until the time ALL sanctioning bodies demand some sort of universal approach to testing, it will only serve to inevitably delay or kill potential fights that should happen.

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So you rather have great matches with the risk of one of them or both cheating?

You rather have the line at the airport move faster with less strict checks with the risk of having someone smuggle drugs, a bomb, etc.?

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:rotflmao:

Because there are so many similarities between athletes potentially using drugs and airport security measures, right?

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all this testing request cr@p is for the birds. until the time ALL sanctioning bodies demand some sort of universal approach to testing, it will only serve to inevitably delay or kill potential fights that should happen.

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So you rather have great matches with the risk of one of them or both cheating?

You rather have the line at the airport move faster with less strict checks with the risk of having someone smuggle drugs, a bomb, etc.?

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:rotflmao:

Because there are so many similarities between athletes potentially using drugs and airport security measures, right?

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Nope, but because lowering security standards raises the possibility of crime. Lower the standards of drug testings and same thing happens. You'll have bunch of boxers out there cheating as long as their opponents are paid a fat check for agreeing not to get tested.

Simple math. Make laws more strict in the airport and it will deter someone to commit a crime, therefore, lowering the possibility of a crime. Make drug tests in boxing more strict, same thing.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Why is it when random drug testing is brought up and stuff the fighter thats supposed to be clean won't do it because "its an excuse for him to duck me"


It would be an excuse to duck if it prevents the fight from happening cause you don't want to be drug tested. He can't 'duck' the fight if you just say yes to it cause you aren't using.

So if he doesn't accept it he is just as guilty. Wonder how long this "he only wants me to drug test so he can duck me" as an excuse for not doing it.

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I totally agree, but in this specific scenario Povetkin has been putting off challenging the Klitschko's for a while. He's been the mandatory for a long time and continues to fight "warm-ups."

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice

You people act like they don't already do drug testing....they do always AND Wladimir has never tested positive.

Povetkin (the challenger) whom has kept stalling at fighting Wlad is now trying to dictate the terms of the fight.

After seeing Povetkin fight Chambers I know and am 100% certain that Povetkin has nothing for Wladimir, he doesn't punch terribly hard, his chin doesn't seem all that sturdy, and he's not big either.

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Right and one more thing: did Povetkin ask his other recent opponents to submit to drug testing?

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Why is it when random drug testing is brought up and stuff the fighter thats supposed to be clean won't do it because "its an excuse for him to duck me"


It would be an excuse to duck if it prevents the fight from happening cause you don't want to be drug tested. He can't 'duck' the fight if you just say yes to it cause you aren't using.

So if he doesn't accept it he is just as guilty. Wonder how long this "he only wants me to drug test so he can duck me" as an excuse for not doing it.

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I totally agree, but in this specific scenario Povetkin has been putting off challenging the Klitschko's for a while. He's been the mandatory for a long time and continues to fight "warm-ups."

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yeah but of all the ways to duck out of a fight wouldn't this be the easiest one to get around by saying "yes, sure drug test me" then the fight happens doesn't it?

I think it is time to make olympic style drug testing mandatory in the pro ranks. I'm not accusing anyone of anything but if it was in place that every fighter had to take the random testing then we could be confident that the fighters are clean.