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havent had a hatton chat on here for a while
May i be the 1st to start..
Hatton is god, greatest british sporting performance of the last decade was hattons performance over tszyu
was kostya beaten by the best 140pounder of his generation?
what would of happened had joe cortez not referee`d the mayweather fight??
should ricky fight on for 1-2 more fights?
All hatton haters please leave your contributions at the door
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Originally Posted by
HattonTheHammer
May i be the 1st to start..
Hatton is god, greatest british sporting performance of the last decade was hattons performance over tszyu
was kostya beaten by the best 140pounder of his generation?
what would of happened had joe cortez not referee`d the mayweather fight??
should ricky fight on for 1-2 more fights?
All hatton haters please leave your contributions at the door
1: No
2: Lost
3: No
;D
Seriously, i like Hatton and he's been great for Boxing. His performance against Tszyu was great. Hatton had an effective style and decent skills. He struggled with speed and combinations and that's the one thing that stopped him from being elite. He'd struggle at 140 against Bradley, Alexander and Khan, and none of the others are worth coming back for. He should enjoy himself now. He's done so much more than he could have imagined possible, and he's set for life. He's nothing left to prove, and in any case 10 stone would most likely be a pipedream. That leaves him at 147, which is probably tougher than 140. He's the reason i joined the forum and for that i am grateful. He's given me many happy memories, and i doubt i'll ever feel as nervous about watching a fighter ever again.
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ono
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Originally Posted by
HattonTheHammer
May i be the 1st to start..
Hatton is god, greatest british sporting performance of the last decade was hattons performance over tszyu
was kostya beaten by the best 140pounder of his generation?
what would of happened had joe cortez not referee`d the mayweather fight??
should ricky fight on for 1-2 more fights?
All hatton haters please leave your contributions at the door
1: No
2: Lost
3: No
;D
Seriously, i like Hatton and he's been great for Boxing. His performance against Tszyu was great. Hatton had an effective style and decent skills. He struggled with speed and combinations and that's the one thing that stopped him from being elite. He'd struggle at 140 against Bradley, Alexander and Khan, and none of the others are worth coming back for. He should enjoy himself now. He's done so much more than he could have imagined possible, and he's set for life. He's nothing left to prove, and in any case 10 stone would most likely be a pipedream. That leaves him at 147, which is probably tougher than 140. He's the reason i joined the forum and for that i am grateful. He's given me many happy memories, and i doubt i'll ever feel as nervous about watching a fighter ever again.
some great sentiments there mate
Pains me to think of the situation nowadays, had hatton-khan of happened with both in their prime khan would of eat leather all night and probably been stopped inside 5-6 rounds
Id like ricky to have one more just so the fans can get to say their goodbyes. Not an elite level fighter but just someone who can bang and make ricky look good at doing what he does best (katsidis springs to mind)
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kingfrnk
Overrated
Frnk hows things mate?
I don't no man, I dont think he is over rated, I think majority of boxing fans no what Hatton is, he was a world class fighter who gives majority of fighters a good fight, he is not an elite fighter. Would of loved Hatton of 2005 to have been around now at 140 to see what would of happened.
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He's currently competing with Fat Mick for the title of Britain's fattest boxing promoter. He's also working on a drinking problem apparently.
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Kirkland Laing
He's currently competing with Fat Mick for the title of Britain's fattest boxing promoter. He's also working on a drinking problem apparently.
care to provide evidence to back that up??
oh thats right...ricky hatton beer drinking boxer = alcoholic drunkard :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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He would have still lost versus Mayweather but he gave him a good fight and really had nothing to be ashamed of unlike the Pacquiao performance which was a disaster. What does 'this generation' mean, Pacquiao and Mayweather both made stops at 140 and were better but Hatton could have stayed at 140 and been quite good. I have no interest in seeing Hatton fight anymore...
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amat
He would have still lost versus Mayweather but he gave him a good fight and really had nothing to be ashamed of unlike the Pacquiao performance which was a disaster. What does 'this generation' mean, Pacquiao and Mayweather both made stops at 140 and were better but Hatton could have stayed at 140 and been quite good. I have no interest in seeing Hatton fight anymore...
and yet even you would still struggle to find an argument for hatton not being one of the best 140pounders of the modern era
Arguably his only losses came via a cheating ref and a steroid addict
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What does 'this generation' or 'modern era' mean? I mean I would consider Chavez of the 'modern era' but maybe not this generation, Pryor too.
140 pounds is just a stepping stone division though not very often do guys stick around there, great fighters like Whitaker, Mayweather, Pacquiao and De La Hoya have all competed at 140 but didn't stick arouund for more then a couple fights. Even Hatton only fought Maussa, Urango, Castillo, Lazcano, Malignaggi and Pacquiao at 140 as a titlist which really isn't the most impressive bunch in the world.
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amat
What does 'this generation' or 'modern era' mean? I mean I would consider Chavez of the 'modern era' but maybe not this generation, Pryor too.
140 pounds is just a stepping stone division though not very often do guys stick around there, great fighters like Whitaker, Mayweather, Pacquiao and De La Hoya have all competed at 140 but didn't stick arouund for more then a couple fights. Even Hatton only fought Maussa, Urango, Castillo, Lazcano, Malignaggi and Pacquiao at 140 as a titlist which really isn't the most impressive bunch in the world.
vitali klitschkos record doesnt show a single big name win to his name, does that mean we have to count him out of the all time lists???
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Once Hatton got caught up in "Hatton Mania" he was always slipping away, he got far too excited and believed his own hype and thought he really was invincible.
I watched the Pacman fight a couple of times the other day (it dooesn't take long :rolleyes:) and those first two rounds were some of the most exciting rounds of boxing I have ever seen, if Hatton hadn't lost the plot he looked like he would have given Manny a real run for his money, but then he stopped thinking and got caught with a few silly shots.
I actually think that Bailiss was going to let Hatton rough him up aswell as he was getting under Mannys skin a bit with his rough tactics, watch it again and you'll see what I mean.
It was electric.
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kingfrnk
Overrated
Frnk hows things mate?
I don't no man, I dont think he is over rated, I think majority of boxing fans no what Hatton is, he was a world class fighter who gives majority of fighters a good fight, he is not an elite fighter. Would of loved Hatton of 2005 to have been around now at 140 to see what would of happened.
How would you define elite?
P.S After reading this thread i started worshiping my signed hatton glove man i love that guy!
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HattonTheHammer
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
He's currently competing with Fat Mick for the title of Britain's fattest boxing promoter. He's also working on a drinking problem apparently.
care to provide evidence to back that up??
oh thats right...ricky hatton beer drinking boxer = alcoholic drunkard :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
The guy who posts here who knows Hatton says his friends are worried about his drinking.
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HattonTheHammer
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Originally Posted by
amat
What does 'this generation' or 'modern era' mean? I mean I would consider Chavez of the 'modern era' but maybe not this generation, Pryor too.
140 pounds is just a stepping stone division though not very often do guys stick around there, great fighters like Whitaker, Mayweather, Pacquiao and De La Hoya have all competed at 140 but didn't stick arouund for more then a couple fights. Even Hatton only fought Maussa, Urango, Castillo, Lazcano, Malignaggi and Pacquiao at 140 as a titlist which really isn't the most impressive bunch in the world.
vitali klitschkos record doesnt show a single big name win to his name, does that mean we have to count him out of the all time lists???
Lol wtf are you talking about?
I'm just saying it's not comparable to someone like Aaron Pryor, Julio Cesar Chavez or Kostyaa Tszyu. Those are all 'modern era' guys, I was just asking how far back 'our generation' goes. I'd consider Tszyu 'my generation' as I watched him fight a lot growing up, so I'd answer no, Hatton isn't the best from our generation as he just didn't fight at 140 long enough.
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HattonTheHammer
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
HattonTheHammer
May i be the 1st to start..
Hatton is god, greatest british sporting performance of the last decade was hattons performance over tszyu
was kostya beaten by the best 140pounder of his generation?
what would of happened had joe cortez not referee`d the mayweather fight??
should ricky fight on for 1-2 more fights?
All hatton haters please leave your contributions at the door
1: No
2: Lost
3: No
;D
Seriously, i like Hatton and he's been great for Boxing. His performance against Tszyu was great. Hatton had an effective style and decent skills. He struggled with speed and combinations and that's the one thing that stopped him from being elite. He'd struggle at 140 against Bradley, Alexander and Khan, and none of the others are worth coming back for. He should enjoy himself now. He's done so much more than he could have imagined possible, and he's set for life. He's nothing left to prove, and in any case 10 stone would most likely be a pipedream. That leaves him at 147, which is probably tougher than 140. He's the reason i joined the forum and for that i am grateful. He's given me many happy memories, and i doubt i'll ever feel as nervous about watching a fighter ever again.
some great sentiments there mate
Pains me to think of the situation nowadays,
had hatton-khan of happened with both in their prime khan would of eat leather all night and probably been stopped inside 5-6 rounds
Id like ricky to have one more just so the fans can get to say their goodbyes. Not an elite level fighter but just someone who can bang and make ricky look good at doing what he does best (katsidis springs to mind)
I disagree with that. I see Hatton struggling big time no matter what shape he's in. I don't think he's that different from what he was in his prime. He's just been in with speed and he's struggled. He's never been hard to hit and it's a myth that he once had a great chin. He just wasted a lot of time fighting guys who were beneath him talent wise, so on the odd occasion where he was hurt (Magee, Phillips etc) the guys were either not good enough, or too long in the tooth to really finish him off.
Don't get me wrong, he could rattle Khan early because Khan is and probably always will be vulnerable, but i think it's more likely that Khan's speed and combinations have Hatton in a lot of trouble.
That's just my opinion and i can totally see the argument for Hatton ko'ing Khan.
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I thought this thread was going to be about some competitive eating competition between him, Naz and Vargas. Since it's just a historical debate, I'll just let myself out.................
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I think Hatton is done. He's never been out for this long before and it seems that he has let himself go a fair bit. The Pac fight appears to have knocked him for six, he won't bounce back from it now. The "I'm coming back" and then the silence and apparent lack of comeback makes me realise that he just doesn't have it anymore. If you haven't got the mental self belief then you've lost already.
He had a good career, just a shame about the end. But that's boxing.
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HattonTheHammer
May i be the 1st to start..
Hatton is god, greatest british sporting performance of the last decade was hattons performance over tszyu
was kostya beaten by the best 140pounder of his generation?
what would of happened had joe cortez not referee`d the mayweather fight??
should ricky fight on for 1-2 more fights?
All hatton haters please leave your contributions at the door
You lost me at "Hatton is god", but I'll answer your questions anyway.
1. Not in my opinion. Hatton was a very good 140-pounder at his peak. No more, no less.
2. I'll answer your question with another question. What would have happened had another ref been in the ring with Hatton and Tszyu? You know... one who understood this was a boxing match and not a WWF match.
3. Not if he values his health and the peace of mind of his family members.
I'm not a Hatton hater, but I think justice was served when he ridiculously claimed to be fighting for the world's p4p against Pacquiao, and summarily got his circuit breaker flicked off in the 2nd round.
;)
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hatton was an above average brawler with a huge fan base never anything more.
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Fight Malignaggi again and then JMM...Retire
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I love how people can complain about Cortez and not about Dave Parris. Cortez stopped Hatton from holding and all of a sudden hes a crook? Isnt it obvious that Cortez had watched Hatton fight before and noticed the holding and decided he wasnt going to allow it...why? Coz clinching is actually illegal in boxing hence why you can get point deductions for too much clinching. Then letting that blatant low blow slide when the the rules state a mandatory point deduction or a DQ at the refs discretion yet he did nothing. Yeah I know your all going to say "Jeez Snakey get over it"...im way over it except when people complain about Cortez, Karmas a bitch and that night Hatton got raped by it.
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Snakey
I love how people can complain about Cortez and not about Dave Parris. Cortez stopped Hatton from holding and all of a sudden hes a crook? Isnt it obvious that Cortez had watched Hatton fight before and noticed the holding and decided he wasnt going to allow it...why? Coz clinching is actually illegal in boxing hence why you can get point deductions for too much clinching. Then letting that blatant low blow slide when the the rules state a mandatory point deduction or a DQ at the refs discretion yet he did nothing. Yeah I know your all going to say "Jeez Snakey get over it"...im way over it except when people complain about Cortez, Karmas a bitch and that night Hatton got raped by it.
Ok this is really old ground but hey why not.
1. Dont know why ya mention Dave Parris in the same sentance as Cortez, Micky Vann maybe :confused:
As far as illegal blows go KT done it first, not once but twice, Ricky simply gave it back ;)
Watched him play footie last night at Old Trafford for SoccerAid, nice penalty, he finished it well, mind you Joe Calzaghe actually scored from open play !!
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Snakey
I love how people can complain about Cortez and not about Dave Parris. Cortez stopped Hatton from holding and all of a sudden hes a crook? Isnt it obvious that Cortez had watched Hatton fight before and noticed the holding and decided he wasnt going to allow it...why? Coz clinching is actually illegal in boxing hence why you can get point deductions for too much clinching. Then letting that blatant low blow slide when the the rules state a mandatory point deduction or a DQ at the refs discretion yet he did nothing. Yeah I know your all going to say "Jeez Snakey get over it"...im way over it except when people complain about Cortez, Karmas a bitch and that night Hatton got raped by it.
And what about the endless low blows kostya was nailing ricky with. Parris didnt exactly come raining down on tszyu like this biased ref your painting him out to be.
Hatton beat tszyu fair and square, floyd beat hatton with cortezs assistance. As i keep pointing out yes i still believe the outcome would of been similar and floyd would of still won but who knows
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Mattyhitman
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Snakey
I love how people can complain about Cortez and not about Dave Parris. Cortez stopped Hatton from holding and all of a sudden hes a crook? Isnt it obvious that Cortez had watched Hatton fight before and noticed the holding and decided he wasnt going to allow it...why? Coz clinching is actually illegal in boxing hence why you can get point deductions for too much clinching. Then letting that blatant low blow slide when the the rules state a mandatory point deduction or a DQ at the refs discretion yet he did nothing. Yeah I know your all going to say "Jeez Snakey get over it"...im way over it except when people complain about Cortez, Karmas a bitch and that night Hatton got raped by it.
Ok this is really old ground but hey why not.
1. Dont know why ya mention Dave Parris in the same sentance as Cortez, Micky Vann maybe :confused:
As far as illegal blows go KT done it first, not once but twice, Ricky simply gave it back ;)
Watched him play footie last night at Old Trafford for SoccerAid, nice penalty, he finished it well, mind you Joe Calzaghe actually scored from open play !!
HAHA man ive been over this soooo many times before it isnt funny but someone in a different thread actually managed to get a screen shot of KTs so called "low blows" that he hit Ricky with and it clearly shows him hitting the top of his trucks which would be where his stomach was. Its a poor excuse considering that if you watch it in slow motion you clearly see that they dont hit him in the nuts unless his nuts are in his belly button. Even if that were the case they were accidental (you cant call Kostya a dirty fighter, he was classy in and out of the ring), Hattons was intentional and alot harder as he actually winded the shot up.
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My head says Ricky should quit now, but my heart says he deserves a massive Manchester send off.
I just hope its not against Khan, as I couldn't handle my one of my all time favourites being beaten by one of my all time most hated.
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Snakey
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Originally Posted by
Mattyhitman
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
I love how people can complain about Cortez and not about Dave Parris. Cortez stopped Hatton from holding and all of a sudden hes a crook? Isnt it obvious that Cortez had watched Hatton fight before and noticed the holding and decided he wasnt going to allow it...why? Coz clinching is actually illegal in boxing hence why you can get point deductions for too much clinching. Then letting that blatant low blow slide when the the rules state a mandatory point deduction or a DQ at the refs discretion yet he did nothing. Yeah I know your all going to say "Jeez Snakey get over it"...im way over it except when people complain about Cortez, Karmas a bitch and that night Hatton got raped by it.
Ok this is really old ground but hey why not.
1. Dont know why ya mention Dave Parris in the same sentance as Cortez, Micky Vann maybe :confused:
As far as illegal blows go KT done it first, not once but twice, Ricky simply gave it back ;)
Watched him play footie last night at Old Trafford for SoccerAid, nice penalty, he finished it well, mind you Joe Calzaghe actually scored from open play !!
HAHA man ive been over this soooo many times before it isnt funny but someone in a different thread actually managed to get a screen shot of KTs so called "low blows" that he hit Ricky with and it clearly shows him hitting the top of his trucks which would be where his stomach was. Its a poor excuse considering that if you watch it in slow motion you clearly see that they dont hit him in the nuts unless his nuts are in his belly button. Even if that were the case they were accidental (you cant call Kostya a dirty fighter, he was classy in and out of the ring), Hattons was intentional and alot harder as he actually winded the shot up.
LOL I know it's very old ground, but hey WTF :cool: Dave Parris gave Ricky the chance to get himself together after being hit low not once but twice. Regardless what we as spectators may think, the ref deemed them as low blows, therefor Hatton deliberately went for KT's nuts :D
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HattonTheHammer
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
HattonTheHammer
May i be the 1st to start..
Hatton is god, greatest british sporting performance of the last decade was hattons performance over tszyu
was kostya beaten by the best 140pounder of his generation?
what would of happened had joe cortez not referee`d the mayweather fight??
should ricky fight on for 1-2 more fights?
All hatton haters please leave your contributions at the door
1: No
2: Lost
3: No
;D
Seriously, i like Hatton and he's been great for Boxing. His performance against Tszyu was great. Hatton had an effective style and decent skills. He struggled with speed and combinations and that's the one thing that stopped him from being elite. He'd struggle at 140 against Bradley, Alexander and Khan, and none of the others are worth coming back for. He should enjoy himself now. He's done so much more than he could have imagined possible, and he's set for life. He's nothing left to prove, and in any case 10 stone would most likely be a pipedream. That leaves him at 147, which is probably tougher than 140. He's the reason i joined the forum and for that i am grateful. He's given me many happy memories, and i doubt i'll ever feel as nervous about watching a fighter ever again.
some great sentiments there mate
Pains me to think of the situation nowadays, had hatton-khan of happened with both in their prime khan would of eat leather all night and probably been stopped inside 5-6 rounds
Id like ricky to have one more just so the fans can get to say their goodbyes. Not an elite level fighter but just someone who can bang and make ricky look good at doing what he does best (katsidis springs to mind)
Rematch Kostya out here.:cool:
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Andre
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HattonTheHammer
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
HattonTheHammer
May i be the 1st to start..
Hatton is god, greatest british sporting performance of the last decade was hattons performance over tszyu
was kostya beaten by the best 140pounder of his generation?
what would of happened had joe cortez not referee`d the mayweather fight??
should ricky fight on for 1-2 more fights?
All hatton haters please leave your contributions at the door
1: No
2: Lost
3: No
;D
Seriously, i like Hatton and he's been great for Boxing. His performance against Tszyu was great. Hatton had an effective style and decent skills. He struggled with speed and combinations and that's the one thing that stopped him from being elite. He'd struggle at 140 against Bradley, Alexander and Khan, and none of the others are worth coming back for. He should enjoy himself now. He's done so much more than he could have imagined possible, and he's set for life. He's nothing left to prove, and in any case 10 stone would most likely be a pipedream. That leaves him at 147, which is probably tougher than 140. He's the reason i joined the forum and for that i am grateful. He's given me many happy memories, and i doubt i'll ever feel as nervous about watching a fighter ever again.
some great sentiments there mate
Pains me to think of the situation nowadays, had hatton-khan of happened with both in their prime khan would of eat leather all night and probably been stopped inside 5-6 rounds
Id like ricky to have one more just so the fans can get to say their goodbyes. Not an elite level fighter but just someone who can bang and make ricky look good at doing what he does best (katsidis springs to mind)
Rematch Kostya out here.:cool:
Good shout bud. It would certainly settle the score and finally dispell the myth of 'Hometown Boy' which many labelled Hatton with ;D
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Hatton was allright, good fighter, brought something different and exciting to the sport and shit, no matter if you agree with the guy or not it's nice seeing someone stay loyal to thier guy and not jumping ship every two or three months.
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HattonTheHammer
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
He's currently competing with Fat Mick for the title of Britain's fattest boxing promoter. He's also working on a drinking problem apparently.
care to provide evidence to back that up??
oh thats right...
ricky hatton beer drinking boxer = alcoholic drunkard :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Isn't that Ricky Hatton in your avatar?
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Cortez did his job. He's not refereeing a street fight. :mad:
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Cortez did his job. He's not refereeing a street fight. :mad:
Your quite right - Cortez did do HIS job - HIS job was to stop Hatton fighting on the inside and let Floyd get away with murder ;)