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Yuri Foreman is what being a champion is all about!!
Good win for Cotto too bad it was under the circumstances it happened even though he was on his way to victory anyhow but....
Foreman would not quit, he even after losing his legs went into a style standing toe to toe that was not his style and a place he was uncomfortable but he still did what he had to and tried....
He did not cry and complain one time about the knee...he did not try to over exaggerate it...If anything he was doing his best to downplay the injury...he went out on his shield like a CHAMPION SHOULD!!!!!!
Even in the post fight interview he stated "I am a champion well former champion now but I needed to fight like a champion and not quit no matter what"
How can you not like this guy? How could you not want to see him back in the ring ASAP healthy....
He never once said anything about I would have done better if it was not for my knee...Never said anything about Cotto only winning because he could not fight his fight...NOTHING negetive......I am a big Fan of Yuri Foreman after last night.....He will be back and IMO he will be champion again...
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Agreed. I'm a fan of Yuri's after last night also. He went out like a true champion. Last night's showing is what boxing needs out of EVERY big fight. This is what will bring out new boxing fans.
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Yuri is a fighter that everyone should admire, not only did he not quit he's just a solid well rounded guy outside the ring. He's not going to be one of those tragic stories in boxing
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I picked him to 'upset' Cotto and thought he was doing better than given credit for but it was not to be.Equally I dont lessen victory by Cotto...he exploited a weakness and capitalized.In a way Yuri may have garnered more respect in defeat than if he had won.He entered with nagging condition and for his complete boxer style that in and off itself is ballsy.Absolutely agree Daxx...ironically I think he was looked at the 'weakest' Champion and took alot of flack for style and little power but you can take the belt off the champion but never the champion out of the man and Foreman is all of that.Not a weak thing about him or fighters of that ilk.Hope he can recover leg but not sure,tough road ahead for him.
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Once poor dudes knee went, the fight was done. I don't really think he was doin all that great before that but he was holding his own. Victor ortiz, nate cambell, frietas, guerrero and some others should feel like crap watching this kid trying to grind it out.
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DaxxKahn
Good win for Cotto too bad it was under the circumstances it happened even though he was on his way to victory anyhow but....
Foreman would not quit, he even after losing his legs went into a style standing toe to toe that was not his style and a place he was uncomfortable but he still did what he had to and tried....
He did not cry and complain one time about the knee...he did not try to over exaggerate it...If anything he was doing his best to downplay the injury...he went out on his shield like a CHAMPION SHOULD!!!!!!
Even in the post fight interview he stated "I am a champion well former champion now but I needed to fight like a champion and not quit no matter what"
How can you not like this guy? How could you not want to see him back in the ring ASAP healthy....
He never once said anything about I would have done better if it was not for my knee...Never said anything about Cotto only winning because he could not fight his fight...NOTHING negetive......I am a big Fan of Yuri Foreman after last night.....He will be back and IMO he will be champion again...
I agree he come across very well. It is worth mentioning however that most fighters are good sports on the night and usually wait until after the post fight interviews to make their excuses. It may well have been what cost him the fight in his mind before his next bout :p
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While the circumstances leading up to the stoppage were unfortunate, I was really impressed with the professionalism of both men. I couldn't believe he kept on after it was clear he was a sitting duck in there - that was one of the biggest displays of testicular fortitude I've seen in awhile.
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I think even cotto admired foreman's determination and heart and went easy on him the last round or two after foreman's knee was injured. To see will and determination like that is kind of unbelievable and if foreman had pop on his punches I'd say he'd definitely be back and be champion again, this way I'm still going to go ahead and say he'll be champ some day again, he can do better than he did last night, the first 3 rounds he was extremely nervous I think. Respect to the guy for not having any quit in him whatsoever.
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Yeah big respect to Foreman, I felt as though he started to find his feet in the 3rd (excuse the pun) and looked a lot more comfortable.
It was such a shame his knee went. He's a smart guy and must've been aware that he didn't have a punchers chance after that so it makes it all the more impressive he tried to continue.
:appl:
What was everyone's take on Mercante? I understand where he was coming from but he was pissing me off with the whole 'suck it up kid' pep talk. Foreman had enough to deal with without him in his ear, apparently Foreman's wife was mega pissed at Mercante for not stopping the fight...
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Conrad
Yeah big respect to Foreman, I felt as though he started to find his feet in the 3rd (excuse the pun) and looked a lot more comfortable.
It was such a shame his knee went. He's a smart guy and must've been aware that he didn't have a punchers chance after that so it makes it all the more impressive he tried to continue.
:appl:
What was everyone's take on Mercante? I understand where he was coming from but he was pissing me off with the whole 'suck it up kid' pep talk. Foreman had enough to deal with without him in his ear, apparently Foreman's wife was mega pissed at Mercante for not stopping the fight...
Wasn't so much a suck it up kid and stop your whining type thing Mercante did....Foreman did not want to stop the fight....He was in no real danger as far as being pummled to the head where it would cost lasting effects.....Mercante let it go to the decision of Foreman...I know at times a fighter needs to be protected from himself but Foreman did not want to go out like that and Mercante gave him the opp to choose his own path....
I do disagree with the fact he let it go on after the corner threw it in but again it is not like Foreman was being beaten from p[illar to post
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DaxxKahn
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Conrad
Yeah big respect to Foreman, I felt as though he started to find his feet in the 3rd (excuse the pun) and looked a lot more comfortable.
It was such a shame his knee went. He's a smart guy and must've been aware that he didn't have a punchers chance after that so it makes it all the more impressive he tried to continue.
:appl:
What was everyone's take on Mercante? I understand where he was coming from but he was pissing me off with the whole 'suck it up kid' pep talk. Foreman had enough to deal with without him in his ear, apparently Foreman's wife was mega pissed at Mercante for not stopping the fight...
Wasn't so much a suck it up kid and stop your whining type thing Mercante did....Foreman did not want to stop the fight....He was in no real danger as far as being pummled to the head where it would cost lasting effects.....Mercante let it go to the decision of Foreman...I know at times a fighter needs to be protected from himself but Foreman did not want to go out like that and Mercante gave him the opp to choose his own path....
I do disagree with the fact he let it go on after the corner threw it in but again it is not like Foreman was being beaten from p[illar to post
I think if Yuri's corner threw in the towel and Mercante knew it was Yuri's corner he should be suspended from refereeing. It seems there are inconsistent reports on whether Mercante thought someone else threw in the towel and not the corner. I think the corner, who knows the fighter better than the ref, should be able to stop the fight and not be overruled. Alot of fighters would not agree with a corner stoppage but the trainer has to do what he thinks is best.
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Boxing could use more fighters with Foreman's size heart. In addition to fans, he earned himself another big pay day with that performance.
I may be in the minority, but i thought Foreman was beginning to make the fight more interesting in the 4th/5th/6th rounds prior to his knee giving out. I assume he was down enough points before his knee giving out, that a win was out of reach, but I bet he would have gone the distance and it would have been relatively close if it hadn't happened. Personally, I had it closer than the judge's at the time of stoppage.
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Hunter
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DaxxKahn
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Conrad
Yeah big respect to Foreman, I felt as though he started to find his feet in the 3rd (excuse the pun) and looked a lot more comfortable.
It was such a shame his knee went. He's a smart guy and must've been aware that he didn't have a punchers chance after that so it makes it all the more impressive he tried to continue.
:appl:
What was everyone's take on Mercante? I understand where he was coming from but he was pissing me off with the whole 'suck it up kid' pep talk. Foreman had enough to deal with without him in his ear, apparently Foreman's wife was mega pissed at Mercante for not stopping the fight...
Wasn't so much a suck it up kid and stop your whining type thing Mercante did....Foreman did not want to stop the fight....He was in no real danger as far as being pummled to the head where it would cost lasting effects.....Mercante let it go to the decision of Foreman...I know at times a fighter needs to be protected from himself but Foreman did not want to go out like that and Mercante gave him the opp to choose his own path....
I do disagree with the fact he let it go on after the corner threw it in but again it is not like Foreman was being beaten from p[illar to post
I think if Yuri's corner threw in the towel and Mercante knew it was Yuri's corner he should be suspended from refereeing. It seems there are inconsistent reports on whether Mercante thought someone else threw in the towel and not the corner. I think the corner, who knows the fighter better than the ref, should be able to stop the fight and not be overruled. Alot of fighters would not agree with a corner stoppage but the trainer has to do what he thinks is best.
Don't get me wrong i 100% agree with what you said and IMO the fight should have been stopped when the towel was thrown in...TOO many corner men get TOO brave for their fighters own good...But in all fairness the rules were only the REFEREE can stop the fight and I think he was trying to give Foreman a bit of the benifit seeing as he was for starters the champion, second he was still trying to win or at least fight back to the best of his ability at the time...Maybe Mercante was thinking it might be someting that would work itself out in a round or two?...Not sure but aside from all the added drama beside the corner throwing in the towel and Yuri's knee the kid did what he had to and went out on his shield...
If this kid had some pop to his punches he could be a major major factor against anyone
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DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
Hunter
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
Yeah big respect to Foreman, I felt as though he started to find his feet in the 3rd (excuse the pun) and looked a lot more comfortable.
It was such a shame his knee went. He's a smart guy and must've been aware that he didn't have a punchers chance after that so it makes it all the more impressive he tried to continue.
:appl:
What was everyone's take on Mercante? I understand where he was coming from but he was pissing me off with the whole 'suck it up kid' pep talk. Foreman had enough to deal with without him in his ear, apparently Foreman's wife was mega pissed at Mercante for not stopping the fight...
Wasn't so much a suck it up kid and stop your whining type thing Mercante did....Foreman did not want to stop the fight....He was in no real danger as far as being pummled to the head where it would cost lasting effects.....Mercante let it go to the decision of Foreman...I know at times a fighter needs to be protected from himself but Foreman did not want to go out like that and Mercante gave him the opp to choose his own path....
I do disagree with the fact he let it go on after the corner threw it in but again it is not like Foreman was being beaten from p[illar to post
I think if Yuri's corner threw in the towel and Mercante knew it was Yuri's corner he should be suspended from refereeing. It seems there are inconsistent reports on whether Mercante thought someone else threw in the towel and not the corner. I think the corner, who knows the fighter better than the ref, should be able to stop the fight and not be overruled. Alot of fighters would not agree with a corner stoppage but the trainer has to do what he thinks is best.
Don't get me wrong i 100% agree with what you said and IMO the fight should have been stopped when the towel was thrown in...
TOO many corner men get TOO brave for their fighters own good...But in all fairness the rules were only the REFEREE can stop the fight and I think he was trying to give Foreman a bit of the benifit seeing as he was for starters the champion, second he was still trying to win or at least fight back to the best of his ability at the time...Maybe Mercante was thinking it might be someting that would work itself out in a round or two?...Not sure but aside from all the added drama beside the corner throwing in the towel and Yuri's knee the kid did what he had to and went out on his shield...
If this kid had some pop to his punches he could be a major major factor against anyone
agree with that part and Pavlik's trainer is a prime example of just that, especially in his fight with Martinez
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ESPN is reporting that Foreman tore his meniscus which will require surgery to repair.
Former champion Yuri Foreman to have surgery on knee - ESPN
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Rather he wanted or not. Foreman had no choice but to fight on. He's fighting on HBO in new Yankee stadium against a fighter looking to win his 3rd title in a different weight class. Not only that but he's getting way more coverage than he really deserves cuz he's a Jew studying to be a rabbi. Factor that in with the fact that he can't punch for shiit and has already had 2 previous fights undeservedly go his way already. The boy had more cons than pros. Him quitting after going down without getting hit or slipping on a logo would of been pretty fucking bad for him. It would of made him a bigger laughing stock than Audley Harrison. And that's pretty big. The fact that he would need surgery wouldn't even matter. The damage would of already been done. I have no doubt Foreman was well aware what the outcome would be if he quit or fought on. The two options running through his head were quit and your a joke. No one will ever take you seriously. Or fight on till it gets stopped (fuck you Mercante I know was what he was thinking) and pray to whoever the hell prays to that Cotto don't hurt him. He did the smart thing rather he wanted to or not.
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Violent Demise
Rather he wanted or not. Foreman had no choice but to fight on. He's fighting on HBO in new Yankee stadium against a fighter looking to win his 3rd title in a different weight class. Not only that but he's getting way more coverage than he really deserves cuz he's a Jew studying to be a rabbi. Factor that in with the fact that he can't punch for shiit and has already had 2 previous fights undeservedly go his way already. The boy had more cons than pros. Him quitting after going down without getting hit or slipping on a logo would of been pretty fucking bad for him. It would of made him a bigger laughing stock than Audley Harrison. And that's pretty big. The fact that he would need surgery wouldn't even matter. The damage would of already been done. I have no doubt Foreman was well aware what the outcome would be if he quit or fought on. The two options running through his head were quit and your a joke. No one will ever take you seriously. Or fight on till it gets stopped (fuck you Mercante I know was what he was thinking) and pray to whoever the hell prays to that Cotto don't hurt him. He did the smart thing rather he wanted to or not.
Yeah I am sure he was thinking that :rolleyes:...Do you sit around all day thinking of ways to imitate the new guy movie and be a twat with statements
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Violent Demise
Rather he wanted or not. Foreman had no choice but to fight on. He's fighting on HBO in new Yankee stadium against a fighter looking to win his 3rd title in a different weight class. Not only that but he's getting way more coverage than he really deserves cuz he's a Jew studying to be a rabbi. Factor that in with the fact that he can't punch for shiit and has already had 2 previous fights undeservedly go his way already. The boy had more cons than pros. Him quitting after going down without getting hit or slipping on a logo would of been pretty fucking bad for him. It would of made him a bigger laughing stock than Audley Harrison. And that's pretty big. The fact that he would need surgery wouldn't even matter. The damage would of already been done. I have no doubt Foreman was well aware what the outcome would be if he quit or fought on. The two options running through his head were quit and your a joke. No one will ever take you seriously. Or fight on till it gets stopped (fuck you Mercante I know was what he was thinking) and pray to whoever the hell prays to that Cotto don't hurt him. He did the smart thing rather he wanted to or not.
Uhmm. I don't think so. Quitting because of an injury wouldn't have changed people's opinion of him. Consider yourself: in your mind he already had two fights against lesser opponents than Cotto undeservedly go his way. I doubt you'd think any less of him if against the best opponent by far of his career, the fight had to be stopped because of a knee injury. And people who liked him would consider his knee injury good reason to stop the fight.
Actually, he probably thought that his leg was hurt, but his head and body weren't hurt and he figured he could fight through the leg pain, but it proved insurmountable because it limited his movement too much.
Even if your opinion was 100% correct, he still fought through a leg injury in order to get knocked out by a punch. His other option could have been to quit like Golden Gay Boy Victor Ortiz or Kermit Cintron who by the way continue to get big fights. I can't imagine what your opinion of Ortiz was when he quit against Maidana. Wasn't this Foreman's first big fight on HBO? We need more boxers willing to go out on their shields. I don't know why you would put down that sort of attitude/courage.
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Lance Uppercut
Sort of saw that coming.Really crap news for him.Shame.With nothing but respect for Foreman he may have seen the peak in career that night with nagging persisting injury,pure boxing style and fact his comp for proposed future fights will be similiar now.In hindsight he fought like it in the end...quitting never entered his mind.
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DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Rather he wanted or not. Foreman had no choice but to fight on. He's fighting on HBO in new Yankee stadium against a fighter looking to win his 3rd title in a different weight class. Not only that but he's getting way more coverage than he really deserves cuz he's a Jew studying to be a rabbi. Factor that in with the fact that he can't punch for shiit and has already had 2 previous fights undeservedly go his way already. The boy had more cons than pros. Him quitting after going down without getting hit or slipping on a logo would of been pretty fucking bad for him. It would of made him a bigger laughing stock than Audley Harrison. And that's pretty big. The fact that he would need surgery wouldn't even matter. The damage would of already been done. I have no doubt Foreman was well aware what the outcome would be if he quit or fought on. The two options running through his head were quit and your a joke. No one will ever take you seriously. Or fight on till it gets stopped (fuck you Mercante I know was what he was thinking) and pray to whoever the hell prays to that Cotto don't hurt him. He did the smart thing rather he wanted to or not.
Yeah I am sure he was thinking that :rolleyes:...Do you sit around all day thinking of ways to imitate the new guy movie and be a twat with statements
I say it's about the same amount of time you spend looking for stupid little insignificance comments you can blow up into something big, have a heart attack on, allow you to play your fake ass preacher role and proceed to preach to the forum how it's morally wrong that Mayweather has his own name on the sweater he's wearing. Such arrogance will have him and everybody who supports him headed straight to hell.
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much respect for yuri foreman. this guy is an epitome of a warrior! wanting to continue even after tearing his ACL has got to take some big cohones. sadly, he'll be out for about a year or so due to the long rehabilitation process but i'm anxious to see him fight again.
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Rather he wanted or not. Foreman had no choice but to fight on. He's fighting on HBO in new Yankee stadium against a fighter looking to win his 3rd title in a different weight class. Not only that but he's getting way more coverage than he really deserves cuz he's a Jew studying to be a rabbi. Factor that in with the fact that he can't punch for shiit and has already had 2 previous fights undeservedly go his way already. The boy had more cons than pros. Him quitting after going down without getting hit or slipping on a logo would of been pretty fucking bad for him. It would of made him a bigger laughing stock than Audley Harrison. And that's pretty big. The fact that he would need surgery wouldn't even matter. The damage would of already been done. I have no doubt Foreman was well aware what the outcome would be if he quit or fought on. The two options running through his head were quit and your a joke. No one will ever take you seriously. Or fight on till it gets stopped (fuck you Mercante I know was what he was thinking) and pray to whoever the hell prays to that Cotto don't hurt him. He did the smart thing rather he wanted to or not.
Yeah I am sure he was thinking that :rolleyes:...Do you sit around all day thinking of ways to imitate the new guy movie and be a twat with statements
I say it's about the same amount of time you spend looking for stupid little insignificance comments you can blow up into something big, have a heart attack on, allow you to play your fake ass preacher role and proceed to preach to the forum how it's morally wrong that Mayweather has his own name on the sweater he's wearing. Such arrogance will have him and everybody who supports him headed straight to hell.
Yeah OK...Please Mr Demise don't get me in a drive by...It is truly an honor you would even waste your time on a post by me while you are handling your biatches, planning your drug empire ruling the hard core streets.......
YES I AM A FAKE PREACHER AND I AM WARNING YOU YOUR HARD CORE LIFE WILL HAVE NOTHING BUT PAIN BROUGHT TO US ALL...HEED ME NOW!!!!!
OR whatever it is you can get done with a 10:30 curfew
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