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Wladimir - Haye is afraid
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Wladimir Klitschko has accused David Haye of being "afraid" of him and his brother.
The British heavyweight currently holds the WBA title - the one major belt that Wladimir and his older sibling Vitali don't have in their possession.
Haye, who defended his crown against John Ruiz earlier this year, has talked about unifying the division before he hangs up his gloves.
He had been due to fight Wladimir last summer but a back injury forced him to pull out while talks with Vitali also stalled. Both brothers have since come out and put a 50-50 offer on the table to tempt him.
Running scared
Now the younger of the two Klitschkos has told Sky Sports News that he feels the Londoner is running scared, despite the fact he "owes" it to boxing fans to get a deal done to take on either of the brothers.
"The guy talks a lot but there is no action - he doesn't follow through with everything that he promises," he said.
"He's actually sitting back somewhere in England or Cyprus, where he also lives, and not doing anything.
"I'm very disappointed about David Haye. I've actually had enough of him."
When asked if either he or his brother want to fight Haye, Wladimir added: "The actual question is whether he wants to fight us.
"He speaks a lot, saying 'yes, I want it (a fight with one of the Klitschkos)'.
"But then the deal wasn't good enough, his shoes were too small, or his back was injured, or whatever else he is going to create (as an excuse).
"Unfortunately there is no action. I'm seriously disappointed by David Haye. It's not only his financial interests; there are boxing fans out there and he owes this fight to them especially.
"He is running out of time because he said he wanted to retire at 30 or 31 - I don't know what his plans are but he will run out of time, and respect first of all.
"I believe he is afraid. If he wasn't afraid he would take the fight."
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Wladimir also blasted Haye, who was in George Groves' corner in Las Vegas at the weekend, for his lack of a response to being called out via a video he posted earlier this year on YouTube.
"I called him out on YouTube, telling him 'let's do it - put your emotions to one side and let's get in the ring'," he added.
"He never gave any response to me; he just quietly sat back and didn't do anything."
Klitschko was speaking at the friendly between Eintracht Frankfurt and Chelsea at the Commerzbank Arena, the venue where he will defend his WBO, IBF and IBO belts against Nigerian Samuel Peter on September 11.
"His shoes are too small" ;D
Actually agree with everything he says to be honest.
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I seriously dont know what Haye is thinking. If he had no intention of fighting Wlad why did he do all that talking? Now he just looks like a total fool.
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Haye's tactic is to annoy the Klit brothers so much that they will fight him for free just to shut him up.
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I think after Chicken Little's displays of disrespect that Wladimir should hop in the ring after the Audley Harrison fight and demand that Chicken Little fight him just so we can see the guy run for cover infront of all his fans.
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
I think after Chicken Little's displays of disrespect that Wladimir should hop in the ring after the Audley Harrison fight and demand that Chicken Little fight him just so we can see the guy run for cover infront of all his fans.
He would, literally, soil his shorts.
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I'd be scared too.
It's one thing to watch Wlad on TV and say all you gotta do is this, that , and the other to spark him out.
It's quite another to balls-up and stand in front of him. Yea, maybe he jabs too much for American taste. Maybe he plays it too safe for a generation reared on Tyson and Gatti. But Jesus God Almighty, when he decides to let loose with either hand it's devestating.
Wlad is undoubtedly in his prime right now and will just murder David unless Haye can land one of his juicy right hands early (and luckily).
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Originally Posted by
Hunter
I seriously dont know what Haye is thinking. If he had no intention of fighting Wlad why did he do all that talking? Now he just looks like a total fool.
http://www.careers-in-business.com/c...ing/money1.jpg
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
I think after Chicken Little's displays of disrespect that Wladimir should hop in the ring after the Audley Harrison fight and demand that Chicken Little fight him just so we can see the guy run for cover infront of all his fans.
I was thinking the same thing. He should pull a Shane Mosley, just hop into the ring and ask for a fight, hey Shane got a fight with FLoyd didn't he?
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I think Haye and Booth are very clever here, the circumstances have chagned alot sine the move to Sky, Haye and Booth now no that Haye can make big seven figure pay days by fighting pretty much who he want's, alot of people saying it could well be Toney.
As fans it's not what we want to see but Haye knows he gets in with Klits that is in a very dangerous posistion if je gets beat which is the favourite outcome them 7-8 figure pay days are gone.
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
I think Haye and Booth are very clever here, the circumstances have chagned alot sine the move to Sky, Haye and Booth now no that Haye can make big seven figure pay days by fighting pretty much who he want's, alot of people saying it could well be Toney.
As fans it's not what we want to see but Haye knows he gets in with Klits that is in a very dangerous posistion if je gets beat which is the favourite outcome them 7-8 figure pay days are gone.
....actually I think he's in more danger fighting the likes of Audley Harrison or James Toney and losing to them, once he loses to someone like that a Klitschko fight simply won't happen and he will have wasted away his opportunity for his biggest BY FAR biggest pay day ever.
England has shown great support to fighters that weren't the greatest in their division but that were good enough to be considered "World Class" to a lesser extent. I think it's a HUGE risk not to fight the Klitschko's.....because even if he fought and lost to Wlad there is still a chance however slight that he could fight Vitali (or vice versa) and he could earn 2 HUGE pay days then fight Audley or Chisora or Towers or whoever and at least the Brits would buy it and good on them for supporting their fighters.
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
I think Haye and Booth are very clever here, the circumstances have chagned alot sine the move to Sky, Haye and Booth now no that Haye can make big seven figure pay days by fighting pretty much who he want's, alot of people saying it could well be Toney.
As fans it's not what we want to see but Haye knows he gets in with Klits that is in a very dangerous posistion if je gets beat which is the favourite outcome them 7-8 figure pay days are gone.
In a way you can't blame him, this is a business. I mean I would just keep on talking shit on the Klits and their family and then schedule a fight with a James Toney or Evander Holyfield and then make millions.
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
In a way you can't blame him, this is a business. I mean I would just keep on talking shit on the Klits and their family and then schedule a fight with a James Toney or Evander Holyfield and then make millions.
....you don't trash talk like that and then run and hide....it's ridiculous
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
In a way you can't blame him, this is a business. I mean I would just keep on talking shit on the Klits and their family and then schedule a fight with a James Toney or Evander Holyfield and then make millions.
....you don't trash talk like that and then run and hide....it's ridiculous
If it means getting tens of millions of this I would.http://www.careers-in-business.com/c...ing/money1.jpg
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Wlad-Haye comes full circle:
ACT 1: Haye calls out Wlad... calls him a chicken, trash-talks him, calls him out.
:action: :chick07mj8: :blahbla:
ACT 2: Wlad says: "OK... I'll fight you."
ACT 3: Haye says: :Oops: .....I fucked up.
ACT 4: "My back hurts". :sweat: :cwm31:
ACT 5: Now WHO looks like a :chick07mj8:
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
If it means getting tens of millions of this I would
He could fight Wlad or Vitali and make more in either one of those fights than he would if he fought fights vs Harrison, Toney, Rahman, or any of those other bums combined.
The issue is that he's talked the trash, he hasn't backed it up, and EVENTUALLY his own fans will disown him....some on here already have because they see he's not serious about what he was saying.
Plus if he slips up vs 1 bum he's going to cost himself a fortune, he's walking a tightrope right now and I think it'll cost him big time
As a boxing fan I ask of my fighters "Do you want to be rich or do you want to be remembered?"......right now Chicken Little is getting both, but he'll be remembered for being a chicken shit coward and he's one of the very few pro boxers you can say that about because he called someone out and has since REFUSED to man up and that is cowardly
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
If it means getting tens of millions of this I would
He could fight Wlad or Vitali and make more in either one of those fights than he would if he fought fights vs Harrison, Toney, Rahman, or any of those other bums combined.
The issue is that he's talked the trash, he hasn't backed it up, and EVENTUALLY his own fans will disown him....some on here already have because they see he's not serious about what he was saying.
Plus if he slips up vs 1 bum he's going to cost himself a fortune, he's walking a tightrope right now and I think it'll cost him big time
As a boxing fan I ask of my fighters "Do you want to be rich or do you want to be remembered?"......right now Chicken Little is getting both, but he'll be remembered for being a chicken shit coward and he's one of the very few pro boxers you can say that about because he called someone out and has since REFUSED to man up and that is cowardly
Basic business 101: Do not kill the golden goose.
Haye got tens of millions fighting guys like Valuev and Ruiz for the "Heavyweight championship." Another thing is his fans aren't going to leave him. You have a bunch of his countrymen on here and many other boxing sites still putting the blame on the Klit brothers, not to mentioned as RJJtszyu put it, Haye is one of the most famous sportsmen in the UK right now. I'm guessing the general public in his country believes he is the legitimate HW champ. He's getting endorsements, charging god knows what to make an appearance somewhere, and getting millions more fighting bums.
Now as a businessman would you want to risk all that fighting 6'7" Klit brothers that has destroyed the HW competition in this era? He's only getting it on with the Klit brothers once they look vulnerable or start looking their age. The fight with the Klit brothers in my opinion won't happen for at least another 2 years if at all.
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If we are to believe Chicken Little then he won't be fighting 2 years down the road.
Vitali will be retired by then, Wlad should still be in his prime though he will have run out of opponents by then. Any other champ in Wlad's era could EASILY put a year between fights, Wlad still fights 2 times a year.
What happens if Chicken Little gets dusted by a lesser opponent? What happens to all that money then?
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Lyle come on mate, we know that Haye should be fighting him or the brother next, but they no they will go in as underdogs, and yes he will make lot's with Klit's but not to much more than fighting anyone out there, I would even say the Audley would generate as much if not close enough to what a fight with the Klit's do.
Haye fights Wlad next gets sparked early, he has no more big pay days in reality maybe a rematch doubtful if it goes badly, where he can fight Audley next make £10 million, then maybe a Toney or Adamek make another 5-10 million, before the Valuev fight Haye was making 250k a fight. Now he has exploded and most the public recognise him now.
I don't agree with it but that is obvious what Haye and Booth are doing milking as much as they can until there is nowhere else to go and this moment in time there is another direction and that is fighting a guy who has never beat a top 50 heavyweight but Haye can fight him and make 10 million plus..
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For awhile there I was actually considering becoming interested in the heavyweights again. Then Haye starts pulling this "businessman" shit. And it's back to Wlad fighting "the bum of the month club" ('cause that's all there is). And no matter how much anyone tries to pump up the quality of the rest of the HW bums, there's no way. It's like trying to give "mouth-to-mouth" to a week-old cadaver. It pisses me off, because I can't remember the last time I was truly excited about a heavyweight match. It was probably the Lennox-Vitali fight, which went all anti-climactic on me when Vitali grew a new eye above his real eye. So fukk Haye and his businessman's tactics. This is boxing.... not "The Apprentice".
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
If we are to believe Chicken Little then he won't be fighting 2 years down the road.
Vitali will be retired by then, Wlad should still be in his prime though he will have run out of opponents by then. Any other champ in Wlad's era could EASILY put a year between fights, Wlad still fights 2 times a year.
What happens if Chicken Little gets dusted by a lesser opponent? What happens to all that money then?
Haye's team is savvy they know which fights to maximize their earning potential with little risk. Let's say a fight with Evander Holyfield, put it on British PPV. Bill that fight as a possible Moorer-Foreman type fight and have Evander help out by saying George Foreman became the oldest HW champ and he's going to surpass that. It'll make big money, his countrymen like LeftyLee, Rjjtszyu, Tyson-Bruno and the general UK public will lap it up and put out the money.
As Skel estimated, £10 million for fighting Harrison, convert that to the USD it's almost 16 million, and that's fighting Harrison!
Haye can keep on doing this for next 5-6 fights and probably earn in the vicinity of 80 million USD.
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
If we are to believe Chicken Little then he won't be fighting 2 years down the road.
Vitali will be retired by then, Wlad should still be in his prime though he will have run out of opponents by then. Any other champ in Wlad's era could EASILY put a year between fights, Wlad still fights 2 times a year.
What happens if Chicken Little gets dusted by a lesser opponent? What happens to all that money then?
Haye's team is savvy they know which fights to maximize their earning potential with little risk. Let's say a fight with Evander Holyfield, put it on British PPV. Bill that fight as a possible Moorer-Foreman type fight and have Evander help out by saying George Foreman became the oldest HW champ and he's going to surpass that. It'll make big money, his countrymen like LeftyLee, Rjjtszyu, Tyson-Bruno and the general UK public will lap it up and put out the money.
As Skel estimated, £10 million for fighting Harrison, convert that to the USD it's almost 16 million, and that's fighting Harrison!
Haye can keep on doing this for next 5-6 fights and probably earn in the vicinity of 80 million USD.
And this is good for the boxing fan, how?
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This has become a bullshit thread. One side rightfully arguing that Haye is ducking the Klitschkos, the only fights that make sense in the HW's at this time... and the other side claiming how it makes so much business sense.
:puke:
Wake me up when you're talking about boxing, ok?
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
If we are to believe Chicken Little then he won't be fighting 2 years down the road.
Vitali will be retired by then, Wlad should still be in his prime though he will have run out of opponents by then. Any other champ in Wlad's era could EASILY put a year between fights, Wlad still fights 2 times a year.
What happens if Chicken Little gets dusted by a lesser opponent? What happens to all that money then?
Haye's team is savvy they know which fights to maximize their earning potential with little risk. Let's say a fight with Evander Holyfield, put it on British PPV. Bill that fight as a possible Moorer-Foreman type fight and have Evander help out by saying George Foreman became the oldest HW champ and he's going to surpass that. It'll make big money, his countrymen like LeftyLee, Rjjtszyu, Tyson-Bruno and the general UK public will lap it up and put out the money.
As Skel estimated, £10 million for fighting Harrison, convert that to the USD it's almost 16 million, and that's fighting Harrison!
Haye can keep on doing this for next 5-6 fights and probably earn in the vicinity of 80 million USD.
And this is good for the boxing fan, how?
It's not good for boxing at all, but that's Haye's strategy as many people have pointed out. He's milking it for all it's worth. Is it shameful and deceitful? Yes it is.
Basically I don't ever want to see another thread or discussion from his fans on how Haye is going to smash Vitali or Wlad as many of his fans keep on saying. It's been 2 freaking years already. People just get tired of the bullshit.
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generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
If we are to believe Chicken Little then he won't be fighting 2 years down the road.
Vitali will be retired by then, Wlad should still be in his prime though he will have run out of opponents by then. Any other champ in Wlad's era could EASILY put a year between fights, Wlad still fights 2 times a year.
What happens if Chicken Little gets dusted by a lesser opponent? What happens to all that money then?
Haye's team is savvy they know which fights to maximize their earning potential with little risk. Let's say a fight with Evander Holyfield, put it on British PPV. Bill that fight as a possible Moorer-Foreman type fight and have Evander help out by saying George Foreman became the oldest HW champ and he's going to surpass that. It'll make big money, his countrymen like LeftyLee, Rjjtszyu, Tyson-Bruno and the general UK public will lap it up and put out the money.
As Skel estimated, £10 million for fighting Harrison, convert that to the USD it's almost 16 million, and that's fighting Harrison!
Haye can keep on doing this for next 5-6 fights and probably earn in the vicinity of 80 million USD.
And this is good for the boxing fan, how?
It's not good for boxing at all, but that's Haye's strategy as many people have pointed out. He's milking it for all it's worth. Is it shameful and deceitful? Yes it is.
Basically I don't ever want to see another thread or discussion from his fans on how Haye is going to smash Vitali or Wlad as many of his fans keep on saying. It's been 2 freaking years already. People just get tired of the bullshit.
Amen to that, bro.
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Hunter
I seriously dont know what Haye is thinking. If he had no intention of fighting Wlad why did he do all that talking? Now he just looks like a total fool.
Is mouth is writing a check that his but can't cash
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TitoFan
This has become a bullshit thread. One side rightfully arguing that Haye is ducking the Klitschkos, the only fights that make sense in the HW's at this time... and the other side claiming how it makes so much business sense.
:puke:
Wake me up when you're talking about boxing, ok?
I wonder what the same fans say about Pacquiao-Mayweather....both guys can easily make money not fighting each other....how wonderful is that?
The issue I have with this situation is that while The Diva plays businessman he's not only keeping the fight fans want to see from happening but he's (potentially) blocking attention that could be paid to younger or better up and coming fighters: Solis, Pianetta, Boytsov, etc.. The way he's doing that is that if he won't fight Wlad and take his beating like a man then the division remains stagnant at the top and The Diva also takes away opponents for the up and comers by fighting older, shot heavyweights.
Chicken Little may have good business sense (seemingly) but #1 It's unseemly to be a professional boxer and have no guts #2 The guy can have fun making $16 million or whatever it comes out to fighting the likes of Audley Harrison but IF (and this is a possibility however slight) Chicken Little was to lose to Harrison then ANY future pay day will have gone the way of the Dodo......however if he was to lose to Wladimir then he could still have some decent paydays left in him vs lower level competition.
I think Chicken Little is going to have maybe 3 more fights and then he's off to his true calling....reality tv :rolleyes: ....oh he'll do wonderfully on Big Brother or whatever other crap you Brits watch
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generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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generalbulldog
In a way you can't blame him, this is a business. I mean I would just keep on talking shit on the Klits and their family and then schedule a fight with a James Toney or Evander Holyfield and then make millions.
....you don't trash talk like that and then run and hide....it's ridiculous
If it means getting tens of millions of this I would.
http://www.careers-in-business.com/c...ing/money1.jpg
Hehe... It's true. Especially if the fight was still available down the road.
I don't condone this behaviour but unfortunately it makes business sense.... Mind you, there's only so many times a Brother can rematch someone... Will we really have to witness A Klitschko/ Peter Trilogy before we get to see the likes of Povetkin, Adamek & Haye fight of them?
I'm actually starting to get the feeling that we will :(
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After the Sam Peter fight I don't know who Wlad can possibly fight that has really earned a shot, but I do believe he's up for an optional defense. Here are the rankings for the IBF and WBO titles....as bad as they are the WBA's is still worse and hell even beyond the ratings there's not a whole bunch left for Wlad to do in the division...maybe winning the WBC belt after he brother retires.
IBF
1. NOT RATED
2. Sam Peter
3. Tomaz Adamek
4. Denis Boytsov
5. Eddie Chambers
6. Ruslan Chagaev
7. Nicolay Valuev
8. Alexander Dimitrenko
9. Jean Marc Mormeck
10. Jonathan Banks
WBO
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. David Tua
3. Tomaz Adamek
4. Denis Boytsov
5. Ruslan Chagaev
6. Sam Peter
7. Nicolay Valuev
8. Odlanier Solis
9. Cris Arreola
10. Chauncey Welliver
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El Kabong
Haye is one of the most famous sportsmen in the UK right now.
I don't know why people keep saying this - a lot of people have no idea who he is.
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El Kabong
After the Sam Peter fight I don't know who Wlad can possibly fight that has really earned a shot, but I do believe he's up for an optional defense. Here are the rankings for the IBF and WBO titles....as bad as they are the WBA's is still worse and hell even beyond the ratings there's not a whole bunch left for Wlad to do in the division...maybe winning the WBC belt after he brother retires.
there are 2 Great Match-ups for Wlad after the Peter fight:
- David Haye
- Alexander Povetkin
Both fights would be Huuuuuge. I hope these guys grow some balls and one of these fights happens next year
IF these two countinue with the DUCK then we have others like Adamek and Solis, but hell, for the good of boxing Haye or Povetkin are the fights to happen.
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I think if Pianetta progresses quickly and does not falter he may be a good challenger down the line (3-4 years maybe earlier).
The way I see it if Chicken Little and Povetkin don't want to fight Wlad now then why would they fight him later? They are both at the height of their skill level and I doubt time will do their styles any favors.
I bet we see a Chicken Little-Mormeck rematch before we see him fight Wlad.
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It's all simmering along very nicely.
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El Kabong
I think if Pianetta progresses quickly and does not falter he may be a good challenger down the line (3-4 years maybe earlier).
Wlad will secure his legacy with or without fighting Haye and Povetkin, cuz ALL haye has done at HW is Valuev (who was previously beaten by Chagaev, who Wlad embarassed) and ALL povetkin has done at HW is Chambers in a close decision (who wlad dominated and KO'd out of reality)
This, and next year its Haye and Povetkin, If they don't fight "The Champ" it will be Adamek or Solis
in 2 years Denis Boytsov, Kubrat Pulev and Robert Helenius will be top contenders for Wlad.
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Oh he ain't afraid or he wouldn't be a fighter. He's just good at being a prick so he tried to use that to have us fans help scam his way into I big payday. I don't think he's scared of loosing he just knows that If he does no one (especially in the states) is going to want to see him in much of anything after that. He's got a family to feed so I don't Blame him. Most of these guys are way overpaid so why not him too. Hey I don't dislike the guy, I wouldn't bet on it but I'd give him just as good of a shot as Peter has
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Mar
Oh he ain't afraid or he wouldn't be a fighter. He's just good at being a prick so he tried to use that to have us fans help scam his way into I big payday. I don't think he's scared of loosing he just knows that If he does no one (especially in the states) is going to want to see him in much of anything after that. He's got a family to feed so I don't Blame him. Most of these guys are way overpaid so why not him too. Hey I don't dislike the guy, I wouldn't bet on it but I'd give him just as good of a shot as Peter has
Sam Peter has taken punches from some big boppers at heavyweight...when has Chicken Little?
Sam Peter has taken on some guys with very difficult styles (Toney, Chambers, Vitali, Wladimir)...when has Chicken Little?
Sam Peter has already fought BOTH Klitschko's and didn't whine 1 single time about it, he WANTED the challenge, THAT my friend is what a FIGHTER does....talking shit until the spotlight is on you and then making excuses as to why a fight vs Wladimir or Vitali can't happen yet is what a coward does.
So far Chicken Little has taken the easy road, well he's going to be in for a very rude awakening because if he EVER fights Wlad or Vitali right now or anywhere down the line he's going to find out that there is no easy road win or lose.
I have never rated Chicken Little, I've seen him fight he has quick hands, he has a big mouth, he has some pop but Wlad is in no danger with him, he still throws LOOOOOONG LOOOOOOPY punches with that overhand right and that's not going to beat the Steelhammer right cross to the point of impact. I don't care if Wlad gets any respect for beating up on this dude, at this point after all the shit that has been talked and all the shennanigans that have been pulled I just want to see Chicken Little whupped like a little kid that stole something.
I remember Floyd Mayweather Jr. helping an opponent up after he knocked him down to keep the fight going...I want Wlad to do that to this punk
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Now what Haye has done is just boxing business, understandable as I've explained on the previous page. However this means that his fans can shut the fuck up about the K brothers being cowards or pussies and how Haye is going to smash them or blaming the brothers not wanting the fight. Haye can go fight Audley Harrison and make his estimated 16 million USD or Evander Holyfield for a little bit more than that, since he's a bigger name. His fans and Haye himself at this point has no more credibility.
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What about "breathing life into the heavyweight division" and all that crap? Can we ditch that as well?
I think he should fight Adamek, Vitali just said they offered Adamek a fight and he refused as well....perhaps it was just so Tomaz could figure out how he would do vs a bigger guy first, because in all honesty he said he would liek to fight the Klitschko's but he never directly called them out or anything.
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Yeah lyle I think adamek is just trying to really get settled in at heavy and put in a few more fights, which is completely fine. Don't think he's afraid of anyone really, while arreola might not be the best boxer ever he hits pretty dam hard and adamek had no problem getting in there with him. I would be fine with haye doing the same thing except he came out and lambasted the brothers for being shit 2 years ago and yet has to sign on the dotted line. If you're not going to walk the walk, then don't talk the talk simple as.
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Originally Posted by
armin
Yeah lyle I think adamek is just trying to really get settled in at heavy and put in a few more fights, which is completely fine. Don't think he's afraid of anyone really, while arreola might not be the best boxer ever he hits pretty dam hard and adamek had no problem getting in there with him. I would be fine with haye doing the same thing except he came out and lambasted the brothers for being shit 2 years ago and yet has to sign on the dotted line. If you're not going to walk the walk, then don't talk the talk simple as.
Exactly right, Adamek came into the heavyweight division with some humility and aiming to prove himself....unlike someone else
