Wladimir - Haye is afraid

[skel1983]

I think Haye and Booth are very clever here, the circumstances have chagned alot sine the move to Sky, Haye and Booth now no that Haye can make big seven figure pay days by fighting pretty much who he want's, alot of people saying it could well be Toney.

As fans it's not what we want to see but Haye knows he gets in with Klits that is in a very dangerous posistion if je gets beat which is the favourite outcome them 7-8 figure pay days are gone.

[El Kabong]

I think Haye and Booth are very clever here, the circumstances have chagned alot sine the move to Sky, Haye and Booth now no that Haye can make big seven figure pay days by fighting pretty much who he want's, alot of people saying it could well be Toney.

As fans it's not what we want to see but Haye knows he gets in with Klits that is in a very dangerous posistion if je gets beat which is the favourite outcome them 7-8 figure pay days are gone.

....actually I think he's in more danger fighting the likes of Audley Harrison or James Toney and losing to them, once he loses to someone like that a Klitschko fight simply won't happen and he will have wasted away his opportunity for his biggest BY FAR biggest pay day ever.

England has shown great support to fighters that weren't the greatest in their division but that were good enough to be considered "World Class" to a lesser extent. I think it's a HUGE risk not to fight the Klitschko's.....because even if he fought and lost to Wlad there is still a chance however slight that he could fight Vitali (or vice versa) and he could earn 2 HUGE pay days then fight Audley or Chisora or Towers or whoever and at least the Brits would buy it and good on them for supporting their fighters.

[generalbulldog]

I think Haye and Booth are very clever here, the circumstances have chagned alot sine the move to Sky, Haye and Booth now no that Haye can make big seven figure pay days by fighting pretty much who he want's, alot of people saying it could well be Toney.

As fans it's not what we want to see but Haye knows he gets in with Klits that is in a very dangerous posistion if je gets beat which is the favourite outcome them 7-8 figure pay days are gone.

In a way you can't blame him, this is a business. I mean I would just keep on talking shit on the Klits and their family and then schedule a fight with a James Toney or Evander Holyfield and then make millions.

[El Kabong]

In a way you can't blame him, this is a business. I mean I would just keep on talking shit on the Klits and their family and then schedule a fight with a James Toney or Evander Holyfield and then make millions.

....you don't trash talk like that and then run and hide....it's ridiculous

[skel1983]

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[generalbulldog]

In a way you can't blame him, this is a business. I mean I would just keep on talking shit on the Klits and their family and then schedule a fight with a James Toney or Evander Holyfield and then make millions.

....you don't trash talk like that and then run and hide....it's ridiculous

If it means getting tens of millions of this I would.

[El Kabong]

If it means getting tens of millions of this I would

He could fight Wlad or Vitali and make more in either one of those fights than he would if he fought fights vs Harrison, Toney, Rahman, or any of those other bums combined.


The issue is that he's talked the trash, he hasn't backed it up, and EVENTUALLY his own fans will disown him....some on here already have because they see he's not serious about what he was saying.

Plus if he slips up vs 1 bum he's going to cost himself a fortune, he's walking a tightrope right now and I think it'll cost him big time

As a boxing fan I ask of my fighters "Do you want to be rich or do you want to be remembered?"......right now Chicken Little is getting both, but he'll be remembered for being a chicken shit coward and he's one of the very few pro boxers you can say that about because he called someone out and has since REFUSED to man up and that is cowardly

[generalbulldog]

If it means getting tens of millions of this I would

He could fight Wlad or Vitali and make more in either one of those fights than he would if he fought fights vs Harrison, Toney, Rahman, or any of those other bums combined.


The issue is that he's talked the trash, he hasn't backed it up, and EVENTUALLY his own fans will disown him....some on here already have because they see he's not serious about what he was saying.

Plus if he slips up vs 1 bum he's going to cost himself a fortune, he's walking a tightrope right now and I think it'll cost him big time

As a boxing fan I ask of my fighters "Do you want to be rich or do you want to be remembered?"......right now Chicken Little is getting both, but he'll be remembered for being a chicken shit coward and he's one of the very few pro boxers you can say that about because he called someone out and has since REFUSED to man up and that is cowardly

Basic business 101: Do not kill the golden goose.

Haye got tens of millions fighting guys like Valuev and Ruiz for the "Heavyweight championship." Another thing is his fans aren't going to leave him. You have a bunch of his countrymen on here and many other boxing sites still putting the blame on the Klit brothers, not to mentioned as RJJtszyu put it, Haye is one of the most famous sportsmen in the UK right now. I'm guessing the general public in his country believes he is the legitimate HW champ. He's getting endorsements, charging god knows what to make an appearance somewhere, and getting millions more fighting bums.

Now as a businessman would you want to risk all that fighting 6'7" Klit brothers that has destroyed the HW competition in this era? He's only getting it on with the Klit brothers once they look vulnerable or start looking their age. The fight with the Klit brothers in my opinion won't happen for at least another 2 years if at all.

[El Kabong]

If we are to believe Chicken Little then he won't be fighting 2 years down the road.

Vitali will be retired by then, Wlad should still be in his prime though he will have run out of opponents by then. Any other champ in Wlad's era could EASILY put a year between fights, Wlad still fights 2 times a year.

What happens if Chicken Little gets dusted by a lesser opponent? What happens to all that money then?

[skel1983]

Lyle come on mate, we know that Haye should be fighting him or the brother next, but they no they will go in as underdogs, and yes he will make lot's with Klit's but not to much more than fighting anyone out there, I would even say the Audley would generate as much if not close enough to what a fight with the Klit's do.

Haye fights Wlad next gets sparked early, he has no more big pay days in reality maybe a rematch doubtful if it goes badly, where he can fight Audley next make £10 million, then maybe a Toney or Adamek make another 5-10 million, before the Valuev fight Haye was making 250k a fight. Now he has exploded and most the public recognise him now.

I don't agree with it but that is obvious what Haye and Booth are doing milking as much as they can until there is nowhere else to go and this moment in time there is another direction and that is fighting a guy who has never beat a top 50 heavyweight but Haye can fight him and make 10 million plus..

[generalbulldog]

If we are to believe Chicken Little then he won't be fighting 2 years down the road.

Vitali will be retired by then, Wlad should still be in his prime though he will have run out of opponents by then. Any other champ in Wlad's era could EASILY put a year between fights, Wlad still fights 2 times a year.

What happens if Chicken Little gets dusted by a lesser opponent? What happens to all that money then?

Haye's team is savvy they know which fights to maximize their earning potential with little risk. Let's say a fight with Evander Holyfield, put it on British PPV. Bill that fight as a possible Moorer-Foreman type fight and have Evander help out by saying George Foreman became the oldest HW champ and he's going to surpass that. It'll make big money, his countrymen like LeftyLee, Rjjtszyu, Tyson-Bruno and the general UK public will lap it up and put out the money.

As Skel estimated, £10 million for fighting Harrison, convert that to the USD it's almost 16 million, and that's fighting Harrison!

Haye can keep on doing this for next 5-6 fights and probably earn in the vicinity of 80 million USD.

[El Kabong]

I think if Pianetta progresses quickly and does not falter he may be a good challenger down the line (3-4 years maybe earlier).

The way I see it if Chicken Little and Povetkin don't want to fight Wlad now then why would they fight him later? They are both at the height of their skill level and I doubt time will do their styles any favors.

I bet we see a Chicken Little-Mormeck rematch before we see him fight Wlad.

[Hornfinger]

It's all simmering along very nicely.

[badr_hari]

I think if Pianetta progresses quickly and does not falter he may be a good challenger down the line (3-4 years maybe earlier).

Wlad will secure his legacy with or without fighting Haye and Povetkin, cuz ALL haye has done at HW is Valuev (who was previously beaten by Chagaev, who Wlad embarassed) and ALL povetkin has done at HW is Chambers in a close decision (who wlad dominated and KO'd out of reality)

This, and next year its Haye and Povetkin, If they don't fight "The Champ" it will be Adamek or Solis
in 2 years Denis Boytsov, Kubrat Pulev and Robert Helenius will be top contenders for Wlad.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

In a way you can't blame him, this is a business. I mean I would just keep on talking shit on the Klits and their family and then schedule a fight with a James Toney or Evander Holyfield and then make millions.

....you don't trash talk like that and then run and hide....it's ridiculous

If it means getting tens of millions of this I would.

Hehe... It's true. Especially if the fight was still available down the road.

I don't condone this behaviour but unfortunately it makes business sense.... Mind you, there's only so many times a Brother can rematch someone... Will we really have to witness A Klitschko/ Peter Trilogy before we get to see the likes of Povetkin, Adamek & Haye fight of them?

I'm actually starting to get the feeling that we will