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Klitschko vs Briggs is on
Boxing - Klitschko-Briggs set
Just seen this on fightnews. HW boxing is not in the healthiest state it's been in but there's much worse matches that could have been made. Haye won't sign to fight the Klitschkos and Briggs is fighting with a renewed hunger and still carries a good dig. He has a better chance against klitschko than anyone he has faced recently.
I'd love to see haye lay it on the line and sign but for reasons only he knows he wont do it. I think he wants to make the money first (hence audley fight being talked about) then build a legacy after and can't hold that against him if klitschko sparked him out and took potential paydays away from him who's going to be left to pick up the pieces?
Haye will be sorry if Briggs wins and wins spectacularly though
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Solid fight given the state of the division. Briggs hasn't earned his shot but he's still got a dangerous punch and hell who am I kidding I am going to enjoy watching Vitali destroy old pineapple head!
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I haven't seen briggs' last three fights so I don't know he might be boxing with a renewed hunger like you say. Him and liakovich gave us a 12 round stinkfest with a ko ending, and then sultan beat him without to much trouble. Unless vitali becomes ancient over night, which he might be liable to do these days, he takes this without to much effort. You all are right though, worse fights to be made out there.
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Briggs has 1 punch left these days and I doubt he can take what Vitali can dish out. Come fight night I think we'll see Vitali at 253 and Briggs at 260-ish....Briggs will come out, throw a couple hail mary type bombs and then Vitali will counter him effectively and finish him off.....Winner by KO in the 4th round "Dr. Iron Fist" Vitali Klitschko!!!!!
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armin
I haven't seen briggs' last three fights so I don't know he might be boxing with a renewed hunger like you say. Him and liakovich gave us a 12 round stinkfest with a ko ending, and then sultan beat him without to much trouble. Unless vitali becomes ancient over night, which he might be liable to do these days, he takes this without to much effort. You all are right though, worse fights to be made out there.
by renewed hunger i mean fighting more regular and pushing for the title shot. he is more hungry for the shot at klitschko than Haye.
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wait why is it Vitali fighting Briggs? Why is Vitali getting people that have some sort of chance at beating Wlad?
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I'd much rather see Briggs fight Wlad, at least there some kind of intrigue in that fight.
The HW division is just such a mess these days. There are literally only one or two fights I actually give a fuck about seeing.
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I'd much rather see Briggs fight Wlad, at least there some kind of intrigue in that fight.
The HW division is just such a mess these days. There are literally only one or two fights I actually give a fuck about seeing.
yeah Chris Arreola and Kevin Johnson id have rather seen against Wladimer
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I'd much rather see Briggs fight Wlad, at least there some kind of intrigue in that fight.
The HW division is just such a mess these days. There are literally only one or two fights I actually give a fuck about seeing.
yeah Chris Arreola and Kevin Johnson id have rather seen against Wladimer
They wouldn't have done any better vs Wladimir, actually at this point in time I figure Wlad would have stopped Arreola sooner and he would have beaten Johnson to a pulp....you won't beat Wlad by trying to out jab him and since Wlad hooks off his jab so well I think he would have opened up Johnson's defense a bit better than Vitali did.
Arreola would have been totally dominated because he throws wide punches, doesn't use angles, and doesn't move his head....it would have been a typical Wladimir fight.
I would have rather seen Wlad fight Briggs but Wlad is fighting the newly svelt Sam Peter who is now his mandatory...that's more interesting to me, for now.
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I'd much rather see Briggs fight Wlad, at least there some kind of intrigue in that fight.
The HW division is just such a mess these days. There are literally only one or two fights I actually give a fuck about seeing.
yeah Chris Arreola and Kevin Johnson id have rather seen against Wladimer
They wouldn't have done any better vs Wladimir, actually at this point in time I figure Wlad would have stopped Arreola sooner and he would have beaten Johnson to a pulp....you won't beat Wlad by trying to out jab him and since Wlad hooks off his jab so well I think he would have opened up Johnson's defense a bit better than Vitali did.
Arreola would have been totally dominated because he throws wide punches, doesn't use angles, and doesn't move his head....it would have been a typical Wladimir fight.
I would have rather seen Wlad fight Briggs but Wlad is fighting the newly svelt Sam Peter who is now his mandatory...that's more interesting to me, for now.
Yes but the hyped suspect chin of wladimer always adds an element to make someone watch a fight regardless of how boring whether it's a false hope someone knocks him out or otherwise it can keep someone tuned for the entire fight.
With Vitali it's basically praying he gets old overnight and knowing he isn't going to be knocked out.
Arreola I would have favored more against Wladimer then Vitali because of that element, I don't think much of Arreola but if I was asked which brother he had any chance against I'd say Wladimer, same with Johnson. Because Vitali is going to 'outbox' most anyone so a decision is out of the question unless he gets instantly old. Against Wladimer it's about someone pushing him out of his shell and potentially reaching his chin and thus is a more exciting matchup in my opinion with guys like Johnson and Arreola.
But as far as Arreola goes if I wanted him to fight Wladimer now it would be only for selfish personal masochistic reasons. Reasons I don't have at this moment.
Sam Peter I think is going to get stopped by Wladimer either way, at least Briggs and Wladimer have a history with each other.
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Oh come off it fellas Shannon Briggs doesn't deserve a shot vs anyone, he's absolute garbage. I mean except for giving Lennox Lewis trouble for 1 and half rounds what did he ever do ?
He got a gift off a 47 year old George Foreman, an absolute robbery infact. He was KO'ed vs Darrol Wilson, got a gift draw vs Francois Botha. Totally outboxed by Jameel McCline and beaten by a 9-9 Sedrick Fields.
But i suppose beating a 44 year old washed up Ray Mercer, or scoring a miracle come from behind KO against Liakhovich in one of the worst Heavyweight title fights ever, gives him an automatic pass to fight the brothers ?
Jesus you know the Heavyweight division is bad, when an asthmatic 10 punch a round fringe 90's contender Shannon Briggs is getting world title shot good lord.
No dig at the brothers its not there fault the Heavyweight division is in the state it is, but who the hell wants to see this honestly ?
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If i were klitch i wouldn't even take my sweatpants off. This fight is almost as riddiculous as haye fighting audley.
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Vitali tried to get Valuev but it didn't happen. Briggs is a good "stay busy" fight for Vitali....plus he'll be doing us all a favor when he demolishes Briggs, it'll be very fun to watch Briggs have another "asthma attack"
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Right now the division is so quiet with Vitali as champ... ask Haye. Can you imagine what it would be like if Briggs won? The list of people who would call Briggs out would be a mile and a half long! Sort of like Bundrage this weekend. EVERYone and their grandma wants his IBF JrMW belt!
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Oh come off it fellas Shannon Briggs doesn't deserve a shot vs anyone, he's absolute garbage. I mean except for giving Lennox Lewis trouble for 1 and half rounds what did he ever do ?
He got a gift off a 47 year old George Foreman, an absolute robbery infact. He was KO'ed vs Darrol Wilson, got a gift draw vs Francois Botha. Totally outboxed by Jameel McCline and beaten by a 9-9 Sedrick Fields.
But i suppose beating a 44 year old washed up Ray Mercer, or scoring a miracle come from behind KO against Liakhovich in one of the worst Heavyweight title fights ever, gives him an automatic pass to fight the brothers ?
Jesus you know the Heavyweight division is bad, when an asthmatic 10 punch a round fringe 90's contender Shannon Briggs is getting world title shot good lord.
No dig at the brothers its not there fault the Heavyweight division is in the state it is, but who the hell wants to see this honestly ?
briggs deserves a shot cos there is fkin no one in HW division worth sh*t nowadays, we have wlad, vitali & haye the end! if them 3 aint gonna fight each other then anyone is entitled to a title fight in my opinion.
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As much as the fight would stink, I was actually looking forward to Vitali vs Valuev. It intrigued me.
This is just gonna be man vs punch bag. The guy might have one big shot in him, but I don't think he'll ever get close enough to use it. He'll be jabbed followed by straight all night and within 6 rounds they'll break him down and just break him in general.
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I like Briggs. So suck my balls. ;D
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Vitali tried to get Valuev but it didn't happen. Briggs is a good "stay busy" fight for Vitali....plus he'll be doing us all a favor when he demolishes Briggs, it'll be very fun to watch Briggs have another "asthma attack"
I agree with ICB, but I know this is right. He needed an opponent and had to find one. Briggs has some recognition anyway.
I'm kinda starting to want to see what Oceanliner Solis could do...
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I like Briggs. So suck my balls. ;D
....that figures, I mean you've liked so many other fantastic boxers in the past :rolleyes:
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I'll say this about the Briggs/Klitschko fight. For about 3 rounds I will be in a state of panic over whether or not Shannon can fire a hail mary upstairs and connect. I can't say the same about any other heavyweight in boxing bothering Vitali with any dynamite in their gloves.
Shannon's past it, and should get creamed around rounds 6-8, but that guy can throw a punch when he shows up to fight. 45 kos in 51 fights is nasty any way you slice it.
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Solid fight given the state of the division. Briggs hasn't earned his shot but he's still got a dangerous punch and hell who am I kidding I am going to enjoy watching Vitali destroy old pineapple head!
Be-fucking-have lyle.
Let's call it what it is. Vitali Klitscho taking on another fat american whos shot at glory was frigging years ago. And even at his peak he wasn't that good.
Yeah if briggs lands a lucky one and gets a KO haye etc maybe haye will regret not selling his soul to fit the klit.
but as it stands this is just another easy fight against a guy who hasn't even earned it.
Just because of shit like this makes me feel that it's ok for haye to fight audley.
Whats good for the goose.....
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This should be a great fight !!! Hell if briggs can beat rob calloway, dominique alexander, rafeal pedro, and marcus mcgee then vitali should be no problem. The best fighting the best is what i always say. man i hope it's on ppv, i'll probably even leave a tip. Hell after this fight i really think a rematch with dicky ryan would really prove who the best heavyweight is out there.
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Be-fucking-have lyle.
Let's call it what it is. Vitali Klitscho taking on another fat american whos shot at glory was frigging years ago. And even at his peak he wasn't that good.
Yeah if briggs lands a lucky one and gets a KO haye etc maybe haye will regret not selling his soul to fit the klit.
but as it stands this is just another easy fight against a guy who hasn't even earned it.
Just because of shit like this makes me feel that it's ok for haye to fight audley.
Whats good for the goose.....
....So you're saying it's just like he's taking on a dangerous version of John Ruiz? ;D
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El Kabong
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I like Briggs. So suck my balls. ;D
....that figures, I mean you've liked so many other fantastic boxers in the past :rolleyes:
And so have you...oh wait thats right you only like the Klitchkos and no one else cus your a giant klit head.
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
Be-fucking-have lyle.
Let's call it what it is. Vitali Klitscho taking on another fat american whos shot at glory was frigging years ago. And even at his peak he wasn't that good.
Yeah if briggs lands a lucky one and gets a KO haye etc maybe haye will regret not selling his soul to fit the klit.
but as it stands this is just another easy fight against a guy who hasn't even earned it.
Just because of shit like this makes me feel that it's ok for haye to fight audley.
Whats good for the goose.....
....So you're saying it's just like he's taking on a dangerous version of John Ruiz? ;D
no I'm saying if vitali and wladmir aren't going to take on any serious opposition I don't see why Haye should.
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Hornfinger
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
Be-fucking-have lyle.
Let's call it what it is. Vitali Klitscho taking on another fat american whos shot at glory was frigging years ago. And even at his peak he wasn't that good.
Yeah if briggs lands a lucky one and gets a KO haye etc maybe haye will regret not selling his soul to fit the klit.
but as it stands this is just another easy fight against a guy who hasn't even earned it.
Just because of shit like this makes me feel that it's ok for haye to fight audley.
Whats good for the goose.....
....So you're saying it's just like he's taking on a dangerous version of John Ruiz? ;D
no I'm saying if vitali and wladmir aren't going to take on any serious opposition I don't see why Haye should.
Because the Klitschko brothers have established themselves as the dominant heavyweights since Lennox Lewis retired. They've been willing to fight all comes and have actively sought out the best and most demanded opponents (including Haye) of what is admittedly a putrid division. They haven't run their mouths about breathing new life into the Heavyweight division and all that bullshit, nor have they talked shit about fighting certain individuals only to overtly duck them on two separate occasions . Haye has barely established himself as a legitimate heavyweight, but his talk has already been demonstrated to be utter bullshit and he has zero credibility. He ran his mouth in order to make himself money and is now taking the easiest route possible, which is fine I guess, but he's got zero credibility, his big mouth has been completely shut ever since Klitschko offered him an incredibly fair deal, and even most of his "fans" have begun turning against him.
The difference between the Klitschko's and Haye is, in a word, credibility.
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Your allowed your opinion. i don't have to agree with it though.....
maybe they will fight all comers, but the standard of what they're both fighting at the moment I would discribe as piss poor at best.
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Your allowed your opinion. i don't have to agree with it though.....
maybe they will fight all comers, but the standard of what they're both fighting at the moment I would discribe as piss poor at best.
By all accounts they tried to set up fights with at least three fighters other than Peter and Briggs, all of whom avoided them. Haye - because he is a no-credibility shit-talker who appears to only be in the game to make as much money as easily as possible; Povetkin - because his own trainer didn't think he had a chance; and Valuev - because he demanded too much money (or so I have read).
Who else should they have fought? Even Briggs and Peter are better than Audley Harrison.
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Your allowed your opinion. i don't have to agree with it though.....
maybe they will fight all comers, but the standard of what they're both fighting at the moment I would discribe as piss poor at best.
By all accounts they tried to set up fights with at least three fighters other than Peter and Briggs, all of whom avoided them. Haye - because he is a no-credibility shit-talker who appears to only be in the game to make as much money as easily as possible; Povetkin - because his own trainer didn't think he had a chance; and Valuev - because he demanded too much money (or so I have read).
Who else should they have fought? Even Briggs and Peter are better than Audley Harrison.
Exactly. The Klits' choices are fight the likes of Briggs and Peter, or not fight at all. The other big name Heavies, including Haye, are the reason for that, because of the choices they made.
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Your allowed your opinion. i don't have to agree with it though.....
maybe they will fight all comers, but the standard of what they're both fighting at the moment I would discribe as piss poor at best.
By all accounts they tried to set up fights with at least three fighters other than Peter and Briggs, all of whom avoided them. Haye - because he is a no-credibility shit-talker who appears to only be in the game to make as much money as easily as possible; Povetkin - because his own trainer didn't think he had a chance; and Valuev - because he demanded too much money (or so I have read).
Who else should they have fought? Even Briggs and Peter are better than Audley Harrison.
well if they want a fight with haye they need to stop writing shit loads of silly clauses into the contract.
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You know Hornfinger, it used to be that heavyweight title holders would just wait until their mandatory came up to defend their title...The Klitschko's are very active champions...of course Sam Peter is the mandatory now, but Wlad is having a difficult time finding an opponent that will actually fight him. Vitali just doesn't have much time to fuck about with Valuev and Don King haggling over contracts....Briggs took the money and I'm fairly certain Shannon could still beat Valuev so IMO he might not be a better fight but he's a more risky fight.
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CFH
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Your allowed your opinion. i don't have to agree with it though.....
maybe they will fight all comers, but the standard of what they're both fighting at the moment I would discribe as piss poor at best.
By all accounts they tried to set up fights with at least three fighters other than Peter and Briggs, all of whom avoided them. Haye - because he is a no-credibility shit-talker who appears to only be in the game to make as much money as easily as possible; Povetkin - because his own trainer didn't think he had a chance; and Valuev - because he demanded too much money (or so I have read).
Who else should they have fought? Even Briggs and Peter are better than Audley Harrison.
well if they want a fight with haye they need to stop writing shit loads of silly clauses into the contract.
A 50/50 split with no futures is a "silly clause"?
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A 50/50 split with THE Heavyweight Champion of the World with no futures and hell Wlad was even up for fighting at Stamford Bridge and giving up any home field advantage....but I suppose a trinket title holder who may have at one time drawn in close to 20K fans deserves a little more money
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All I will say on this whole bout and what surrpounds it is I have heard from a very very very good source that Briggs has managed to up his workrate in sparring sessions to 5 punches a round so Vitaly has 60 punches to worry about if this goes the distance :o...
I mean seriously Shannon Fucking Briggs!!!!! Rob Calloway is the biggest name he has fought since the Sultan loss....Since losing to Sultan in 2007 he is 3-0 with 1 NC the NC was due to the illegal substance drug failure...This deserves a title shot? Vitali and his team even considered this a worthy opp why?
It make me sick to tell the truth and I lost a big chunk of respect for Vitali
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Hey its hard to make a good fight when no one wants to fight you
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Hey its hard to make a good fight when no one wants to fight you
Sexton, Boytsov, Chagaev, Valuev, Solis, Pianeta, Platov, Ustinov...are all more deserving though really none are deserving of a title shot at the moent with the exception of Valuev who is only 1 fight removed from being a belt holder...But Briggs?....Take the top 25 and no less then 15 nof them would say yes in a second so p-lease don't start with the nonsense of noone will fight him...shit even in loss a title shot is a title shot in the eyes of some of mthese fellows especially the ones starting to get past their mid 20's
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This fight makes my vag sandy. No lie.
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Sexton, Boytsov, Chagaev, Valuev, Solis, Pianeta, Platov, Ustinov...are all more deserving though really none are deserving of a title shot at the moent with the exception of Valuev who is only 1 fight removed from being a belt holder...But Briggs?....Take the top 25 and no less then 15 nof them would say yes in a second so p-lease don't start with the nonsense of noone will fight him...shit even in loss a title shot is a title shot in the eyes of some of mthese fellows especially the ones starting to get past their mid 20's
Sexton....really?
Boytsov, he's ok an up and comer, got some skill to him, a little small and a little green just yet but I'd rather he stick in the WBA line instead of allowing himself to be ruined by Vitali, plus he had been trained by Sdunek in the very recent past. I like the way this kid fights but it's not going to work vs Vitali.
Chagaev, I think Ruslan is man enough to take the bout, but we've already seen him get beaten down by a Klitschko, must we see that again. PLUS I think he wants his old title back...which he'll be LUCKY to get another shot at given what Don King, Chicken Little, and manager have said about him. It would be a decent fight but we all know the outcome.
Odlanier Solis I believe is supposed to be Vitali's next mandatory...I would have rather this fight happened but who knows, maybe Vitali wants it later, maybe Vitali doesn't want it at all, maybe Solis doesn't want it....I am not sure, but I haven't heard either Klitschko say 1 word about Solis. Solis needs to watch his weight as well...I don't want him to eat himself out of the division.
Fransisco Pianetta is too green right now...just because he walked through Mike Marrone doesn't make him a top challenger
Oleh Platov is nowhere near ready for this kind of fight
Alexander Ustinov is actually contracted with K2 Promotions and has been on a number of Klitschko cards....I don't know if that's a conflict of intrests but whatever. Ustinov isn't ready to fight anyone of note or high calibre.
.....we wouldn't be talking about this if that Yehti Valuev had the stones to fight Vitali
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You know Hornfinger, it used to be that heavyweight title holders would just wait until their mandatory came up to defend their title...The Klitschko's are very active champions...of course Sam Peter is the mandatory now, but Wlad is having a difficult time finding an opponent that will actually fight him. Vitali just doesn't have much time to fuck about with Valuev and Don King haggling over contracts....Briggs took the money and I'm fairly certain Shannon could still beat Valuev so IMO he might not be a better fight but he's a more risky fight.
You think Shannon Briggs would beat Valuev?? Really? I don't. I know Valuev is shite but Briggs is even worse. I mean his greatest achievement is going the distance with a 47 year old fat George Foreman and getting a total gift decision and that was what 1996ish? He's even worse now.
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You think Shannon Briggs would beat Valuev?? Really? I don't. I know Valuev is shite but Briggs is even worse. I mean his greatest achievement is going the distance with a 47 year old fat George Foreman and getting a total gift decision and that was what 1996ish? He's even worse now.
....and Valuev got a gift decision vs Evander Holyfield who was about 47 when that fight happened, your point?
Shannon can still punch and Valuev has NEVER fought anyone that was a PROVEN heavyweight power puncher....never EVER in his whole career
