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Right now the odds makers have Manny Pacquiao as a 6-1 favorite over Antonio Margarito. But I think it's gonna go down to 3-1 come fight night like it always does.
you forgot 'prefered method of cheating'
these are great odds. too bad i'm not into betting. margarito is a very live underdog and could pull an upset. very dangerous fight for pacquiao!
Pac will beat Margo easily.
" Speed kills "
Margarito may as well be a 5'6". The guy gives up his height all the time. I think that is what makes this fight so appealing for Pacquiao. At the same time, Marg throws his best punches from medium short range.
They're gonna have HBO 24/7 Manny Pacquiao-Antonio Margarito Covered on HBO's '24/7' -- Boxing FanHouse. ;D
Looking at the tape stats, you can only see one winner.
In reality, it's the other way around!
With Stan James, Margarito is 100 to 1 to win in the 12th, thats worth a tenner;) Hes 7 to 2 just to win. I can see him winning, i have no interest in this fight other than the fact I know Margarito will be made a big underdog and will be worth a bet.
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Roach: manny will knock him out inside of 8 rounds.
Tony: what? you think im crippled or what?
Roach: i saw your last 2 fights
:o
I see this being harder for Manny than many are thinking. Margarito is big, durable and throws a god awful lot of punches. Manny has never been in with anything like this before. Hatton- JWW. Cotto-WW who doesn't throw that much. Margarito at 151- a nasty bugger who wasn't known for his punching power, but as someone who digs in and comes on late. Someone who can throw more punches than Manny, if he is ready.
I think maybe this will be Manny's first tough fight at the higher weights and though Margarito doesn't deserve the payday, it will be a very interesting fight.
again no knob size comparisons on the TOTT
:mad::mad::mad:
Here a Tale of the Tape stat that is missing.
The 'unofficial' ring weight?
Pacquiao 148.5 lbs
Margarito 171 ± lbs
That's good!
http://bullseyegame.pbworks.com/f/Bl...-150%20DPI.jpg
Easy target for Pac. ;D
Just a quick update...
Amir Khan flies to the Philippines to work with Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach - Telegraph
By Gareth A Davies, Telegraph.co.uk, Tue, 05 Oct 2010
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...n_1731887c.jpg
JCCjr and Vanes Martirosyan will catch up with him in a couple of days.
I wonder who's Marg sparring mates are.
It's funny Pac fans are the ones big upping Margarito now.
This fight is much less dangerous for him than Cotto was. Yes Margarito is big and throws a lot of punches, but his defense is horrible and his movement is limited to walking forward, not to mention Pacs hand speed is ridiculously faster. Pacquiao has all the skill advantages, Margo just has the Valuev advantages.
'Just hyping it a bit. It's been boring lately. But you're right. I guess Margarito's only/main advantage is his size. I'm 100% sure that he'll use that asset to rough up pac. We might see some dirty tactics from Marg.
The ref will play a big role. I hope Texas comm won't even think of assigning referee by the name of Laurence Idiot Coleman.
'We will prove everybody wrong on November 13'- Robert Garcia Interview
It is customary for true competitors to relish opportunities to go up against the best. Although some do duck and dodge, but true winners are those who can only find real value in the level of competition associated with victory. Well, Antonio Margarito's trainer Roberto Garcia is no stranger to competition; He is after all a former World Super Featherweight Champion. I can still recall his classic battle with the much bigger and superior Diego Coralles and how the tough and feisty Garcia gave him all that he could handle when he kept coming forward and rocked the late boxing great only to come up short in the end. Garcia relishes competition, and would never quit or pull a Dela Hoya at the first sign of defeat. He is what a true Mexican Warrior in every sense of the distinction.
So it isn't a surprise that the 35-year-old trainer from Oxnard, California is bringing the same fiery and competitive mindset when he guides his ward Margarito into battle against the best fighter in the planet as of the moment. Not only that, Garcia is chomping at the bit to go head-to-head anew with the man who is widely considered as the best boxing trainer of this era in Freddie Roach. I spoke to Garcia recently and this is what he had to say about facing Pacquiao and Roach:
"I've had a couple of fighters fight fighters trained by Freddie Roach, for me I consider it a big challenge going up against the best trainer in the world, because for me I consider him the best trainer in the world and he's proved it with Manny Pacquiao, with Amir Khan and he's made Chavez Jr. look great, so he is a great trainer but both times I've gone against him with fighters he trained, I beat him and now this is the real test: Margarito against Pacquiao. Pacquiao is the man, not only for Margarito, but also for me. I'm also excited about it. Not only am I studying Manny Pacquiao, I'm also studying Freddie Roach. I already have an idea how he thinks, how he works, so all that is going to be working in our advantage. I know very few people give us a chance but we will prove everybody wrong on November 13. We are going there and show that were in there for the long run, for a good win and hopefully be a champion after that."
Margarito and Garcia both have a lot to prove while Pacquiao and Roach have been the staple of excellence for quite some time now. We definitely know which camp will be more motivated coming into November 13, but will it be enough to upset this era's best boxer-trainer tandem? Like former Dallas Cowboy Terrell Owens said, "get you popcorns ready". And this Texas gunfight will definitely be nothing like the one-sided snoozer Pacquiao-Clottey turned out to be last March.
never, ever think that it is a given that one fighter will win over the other in boxing. especially the way pacquiao fans are saying this is going to be an easy fight etc...i think the more margarito isn't given much of a chance with public opinion the more it's going to motivate him to no end. don't be surprised if margarito shocks the world and KO's pacquiao come november 13th. i will not make any predictions because i know in boxing anything can happen. the way some people sound as if margarito isn't going to get any clean shots in. joshua clottey sure as hell did, and he hardly through any punches and he happened to mark up pacquiao's face up pretty bad. margarito throws 5-6 times the amount of punches clottey throws and he fights going forward whereas clottey is mainly a defensive fighter first. here's what i honestly see, even if pacquiao does happen to beat margarito, he's going to take such a beating that pacquiao's people, friends and family are going to try to talk him into retiring.
PSL,
unlike yourself who has only been a boxing fan since pacquiao came unto the scene, i know that anything can happen in the sport of boxing. and yes, i am confident that margarito can win but i also know pacquiao is an equally dangerous fighter. as far as making predictions, i will hardly ever make a prediction on a fight because unlike pacquiao's fans, who sometimes get sexually aroused whenever pacquiao knocks down a SPARRING partner, i know all it takes is one punch to turn a fight around. another thing, most pacquiao fans have very little knowledge of boxing. here's an example. just because A beats B, and C beats A, automatically it's a given that C will beat B. OR, because mosley knocked out margarito, it's automatic that pacquiao will do the same to margarito. see, things like this make it impossible to take any or most pacquiao fans serious. for all they know, pacquiao is boxing and when he retires, they will no longer have any more interest in the sport.
even before pacquiao, filipinos have been big fans of boxing. ali, leonard and tyson also had almost the same effect before as manny does now where there was less traffic and crimes in the philippines during their fights. of course it's only natural that manny would be bigger here because he is a kababayan. but then ater he retires life would go on and filipinos would still be boxing fanatics.
This fight would be competitive for say maybe 1 round, this fight is a total mismatch. Of course the crazy thing is that 2 years ago if anyone had said that a Pac-Margarito fight would be such a mismatch for Margarito you would be laugh at. Other than height and size Margo really doesn't have anything going for him.
I´m totally with Miles on this one, from the start I´ve had a bad feeling about Pacman winning. People seem to forget that only a couple years ago everyone on here though Marg could have a chance against PBF. He´s a LOT bigger than Pacquiao, just look at the reach difference, not to mention he´s got a pretty solid chin.
I´ll be rooting for Pac obviously but Í´m having a wager on AM beeting him just to soften the blow should pac lose
Quit generalizing. Not all pacfans are the same. Style makes fight difinitely. But don't give me that "anything can happen" crap. You talk smack about how Marg will send Pac to retirement but you won't make a prediction:confused:. You don't wanna make a prediction cuz you know in your heart and mind that Marg will going to lose. That's pretty understandable. You're just playing it safe right? Saving yourself from humiliation?
There's nothing wrong with predicting a fight.
Just say Marg will win by brutal KO if that's what you really think. ;)
PSL,
who's generalizing? i'm just stating facts that the only reason why there are alot of pinoy fans is because of pacquiao. i mean, where were they on these boards pre-pacquiao? there wasn't that much interest back then but as soon as pacquiao came unto the scene, there was like a nuclear explosion with his fans coming out of the woods in support of him. hey, and that's a good thing! nothing wrong with that. and as far as saying margarito would retire pacquiao, read my comments again. i said even if pacquiao wins, margarito could still give him a beating that could prompt his people to call it a career. and that's because he's accomplished so much in boxing that he doesn't need to take anymore unnecessary punishment. and why would i be humiliated if margarito lost? i'm not the one in the ring. i'm just a spectator. you see, in the realm of things, and in the bigger picture in life, i could care less who wins this fight. i mean, it's only one guy beating up on the other. doesn't affect me at all, unlike pacquiao's people who would absolutely be distraught, devastated and probably suicidal.
Damn right there's nothin wrong with supporting a fighter. Something must be really working cuz look where Pac is right now? I've been a boxing fan since Navarette, Luisito Espinosa, the Penalosa bros, the "four horsemen", and Tyson era. But I do admit that I'm not quite a big boxing fan back then (I was 6 or 7 years old :-\).
Lol. Pacquiao is no superman. He's going to be on the other side of the hill someday. But hey, that's nature, that's life. What matters most that he'll keep fighting til he go suck ass.
Article with video...
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Looks to Drop Manny Pacquiao in Sparring
Do your job Julio. $1,000 bonus if you can.
PSL,
which of the "four horsemen" you mentioned could someday be inducted into the HOF?
Tony has been brought in to make Pac look good. If he wasnt an Arum fighter he wouldnt have got this chance. Not sure how he deserves a world title fight at light middle.Also the catchweight has taken away whatever credibility this fight had.
Pac will be too fast and Tony wont be able to block whats coming at him. If he wasnt knocked sensless by Mosley I dont think theyd take the risk because Margarito use to be dangerous but with the hand wrap revelation its clear that his best wins were probably due to cheating. The two times we know he HASNT got plaster in his gloves he looks awful. No surprise that he's suddenly got a big fight because he is there for the taking so they want Pac to beat him and gets some glory before another washed up 38 year old does.
Afew years ago it would have been a good fight but I think we will be in for a disappointment. Lets hope Haye vs Audley delivers.
PSL,
no, i thought you called the penalosa bros, luisito espinosa and navarrete the 4 horsemen? my bad. the 4 horsemen you were referring to are all in the hall, hearns, hagler, leonard and duran.
Crud :vd: Lol
That got me chuckeled. Dodie boy, Jerry, Louie, and Rolando are the four horsemen. Good lord.
Bob Arum calls Hearn, Hagler, Leonard, and Duran as his "four horsemen". They're also well known as the "four kings". I don't think Hearns is in HOF yet. Is he?