Derek Chisora offered Wladimir Klitschko heavyweight title shot in December | Mail Online
Surely Del Boy isn't ready for a world title shot yet?
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Derek Chisora offered Wladimir Klitschko heavyweight title shot in December | Mail Online
Surely Del Boy isn't ready for a world title shot yet?
Ugh, what's the point? Wlad will ruin him.
Agreed. Got a feeling Chisora will accept though because he, like many before him, will believe he can land a big shot on Wlads questionable chin and take the World title. The problem is once he's stood there in front of you, it becomes a lot harder job to land that big money shot than first imagined and Chisora will find out that the gap between someone like Sexton and Wlad is way bigger than he first thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I'm only basing this on one fight, but I saw nothing in the Sexton rematch that makes me think Chisora has the power to hurt Wlad with one punch. His chin is nowhere near that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuAgreed. Got a feeling Chisora will accept though because he, like many before him, will believe he can land a big shot on Wlads questionable chin and take the World title. The problem is once he's stood there in front of you, it becomes a lot harder job to land that big money shot than first imagined and Chisora will find out that the gap between someone like Sexton and Wlad is way bigger than he first thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Chisora has decent power. And weighing 230+lbs, I'm pretty confident he could hurt Wlad. Not saying it would ever happen, just that if Wlad made a big mistake and was countered by Derek he definitely has the power to hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI'm only basing this on one fight, but I saw nothing in the Sexton rematch that makes me think Chisora has the power to hurt Wlad with one punch. His chin is nowhere near that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuAgreed. Got a feeling Chisora will accept though because he, like many before him, will believe he can land a big shot on Wlads questionable chin and take the World title. The problem is once he's stood there in front of you, it becomes a lot harder job to land that big money shot than first imagined and Chisora will find out that the gap between someone like Sexton and Wlad is way bigger than he first thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I really hope this doesn't happen. I like Derek Chisora, I think he's a really exciting edition to the domestic fight scene.
He is in now way ready to face a Klitschko. Let him have some exciting British fights and gain some experience.
I imagine he would take the fight though if offered. I mean everyone would expect him to lose so he can't really lose anything in this fight. And he could easily fall short at some point if he tries to patiently work his up the ranks.
I wouldn't blame him for taking it at all, but if he does it's just for a payday and some immediate recognition which means he might be more of a name fighter if he holds his own for a bit.
I don't know. Sam Peter hit Klitschko flush with a cheap shot on a break and Wlad didn't even blink.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuChisora has decent power. And weighing 230+lbs, I'm pretty confident he could hurt Wlad. Not saying it would ever happen, just that if Wlad made a big mistake and was countered by Derek he definitely has the power to hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI'm only basing this on one fight, but I saw nothing in the Sexton rematch that makes me think Chisora has the power to hurt Wlad with one punch. His chin is nowhere near that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuAgreed. Got a feeling Chisora will accept though because he, like many before him, will believe he can land a big shot on Wlads questionable chin and take the World title. The problem is once he's stood there in front of you, it becomes a lot harder job to land that big money shot than first imagined and Chisora will find out that the gap between someone like Sexton and Wlad is way bigger than he first thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Yeah one punch is not going to do it, you better be comming with something behind it. There were a few occasions where wlad got taged by one shot here and one shot there by peter, wich didn't seem to bother him to much. As for the fight don't know much about chisora but sounds like he's way to young and inexperienced.
noone can complain about haye fighting harrison now
This is a terrible idea, but is probably just a way to drum up publicity for Chisora. Personally, I'd like to see Chisora in a bit better shape, and in the process of doing this over the next year, see him well and truly expose the complete joker Tyson Fury.
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Originally Posted by TheMacMagician
why is fury a joker?
Chisora will never be World class , he has suspect stamina , no power in the higher class.
Any world class fighter would eat him alive. A fight with the idiot Fury would bring some interest , and every fan in Britain would be routing for him to shut the annoying GYPO up once and for all.
This wont happen, Frank was just showing off and having a pop at Haye-Audley, he said himself Chisora isn't ready, and the money wasn't great, but has to discuss it with the crazy sod.
Chisora will be fighting on December 11th but it wont be in Germany.
chisora is a novice matey, you cant really tell yet if he will be world class, he has certainly done well up until nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
and whats wrong with fury? he is a decent prospect, he has beaten a very solid big john in just his 11th fight or what ever it was
That's fine but what is the ceiling for Fury? I mean can you really picture Fury making much noise in the future on the world level?
I won't pretend to know much about Chisora, I only remember the fight where he bit the guy.
i wouldnt say fury will be world champ no, but it dunt make him a joker or shitQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
hes got a good record for someone with so few fights
Very solid John as you call him was KOED in 2 rounds by light punching Nickolay Popov who was having his eleventh fight.Fury is utter shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44chisora is a novice matey, you cant really tell yet if he will be world class, he has certainly done well up until nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
and whats wrong with fury? he is a decent prospect, he has beaten a very solid big john in just his 11th fight or what ever it was
He hasnt fought anyone of good class thats why he is unbeaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i wouldnt say fury will be world champ no, but it dunt make him a joker or shitQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
hes got a good record for someone with so few fights
you could pick any boxer in the world and pick appart his recordQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlVery solid John as you call him was KOED in 2 rounds by light punching Nickolay Popov who was having his eleventh fight.Fury is utter shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44chisora is a novice matey, you cant really tell yet if he will be world class, he has certainly done well up until nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
and whats wrong with fury? he is a decent prospect, he has beaten a very solid big john in just his 11th fight or what ever it was
John Mcdermott is a solid domestic heavyweight who would give any of the current crop of domestic heavyweights a decent fight on his night
why is fury utter shite? how many fights has he had?
HE HAS ONLY HAD 12ish FIGHTS FOR FRANKS SAKEQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlHe hasnt fought anyone of good class thats why he is unbeaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i wouldnt say fury will be world champ no, but it dunt make him a joker or shitQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
hes got a good record for someone with so few fights
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Originally Posted by erics44you could pick any boxer in the world and pick appart his recordQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlVery solid John as you call him was KOED in 2 rounds by light punching Nickolay Popov who was having his eleventh fight.Fury is utter shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44chisora is a novice matey, you cant really tell yet if he will be world class, he has certainly done well up until nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
and whats wrong with fury? he is a decent prospect, he has beaten a very solid big john in just his 11th fight or what ever it was
John Mcdermott is a solid domestic heavyweight who would give any of the current crop of domestic heavyweights a decent fight on his night
why is fury utter shite? how many fights has he had?
mate big john is nothing more than a domestic journeyman that anyone with the slightest grain of ambition should be able to box his head off on any given night.
If you get outboxed by a guy who is 17stone full of flab and with very little boxing ability then their really isnt a future in this sport for you.
Fury has no punch power, for someone so tall has an inadequate jab, and doesnt seem to have the heart to want to scrap.
sexton or rogan would take the pikey c*nt apart
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Good old wlad! Come on Lyle tell me how great chisora is as an opponant for wlad.
Absolute joke.
Everything you said about haye vs fraudley will now apply to chisora and wlad. Don't you just hate it when your words come back to bite you in the ass. Absolutely hysterical.
erics44 - is your full name Eric Fury by any chance ?
Well if this fight happens it's going to be nothing more than a glorified sparring match, it will mean very little in terms of Wlad cementing his legacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Wlad is hurting for opponents for a number of reasons and odds are he'll have to hire search parties to be able to stay active until El Pollo Explosivo is "ready" and "willing" to fight him.
Everything I said about Chicken Little and Harrison will NOT apply to Wlad-Chisora because Chisora hasn't gotten his ass kicked by some local tomato can chump like Martin Rogan.
Look at who Wlad has to choose from there are worse opponents out there for him, Mormeck, Tua...but there HAS to be someone out there better than Chisora. I'm not pleased with that, but #1 the fight isn't signed yet and #2 Chisora has yet to step in the ring and that's the only way we'll know it's truly happening.
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
so if i said bernard hopkins was shit and you said he's not would that make you Al Hopkins?
No your reference to my good self would remain the same , its SIR to you my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
so if i said bernard hopkins was shit and you said he's not would that make you Al Hopkins?
I told you guys this could happen the Mag 7 card was being shown live across Germany and Del Boy impressed, when Wlad is considering Tua I thought with the exposire he had last week he might get a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
What did I say to you lot straight after the Mag 7 fights, I can see Chisora fighting a K.
He does have better foot speed than most of the guys I've seen the K's face recently and is in pretty good shape, but the sheer size difference is one thing, let alone the fact that even Sexton had him looking rocky in a couple of rounds.
We all know the outcome of this fight, but if he gets offered it, I can't see why he shouldn't take it and have a go at a world title shot, he may never in his career get that chance again.
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Originally Posted by 0james0
It's win win for him deffo mate, he will loose but will get a 6 figure pay day and he can come back alot richer with massive experience in a big fight and still has alot of potential opponents at domestic level. I think he would be stupid to turn it down.
Hornfinger have to agree with you mate for once :-X, Wlad taking this fight deserves everything and a bit more Haye got for fighting Audley, joke fight in reality where they are worlds apart in levels and experience.
ok Ill call you DIC if you want, do i have to put it in capitals tho coz my shift key sticks sometimes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlNo your reference to my good self would remain the same , its DIC to you my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
so if i said bernard hopkins was shit and you said he's not would that make you Al Hopkins?
Chisora wins this inside 3
No, we can complain about both, it'll be a lot of fun. I'll bring the guacamole.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I don't think its going to be a competitive fight but Wlad wants to have a fight Manny is trying to mold his style in a different direction so Wlad needs the work and sadly there's nobody to choose from:
Vitali won't fight Wlad and that shouldn't be expected
Valuev just had surgery
Chicken Little is fighting Audley Harrison
Povetkin already said no
Sam Peter just got beat by Wlad
There's not much out there. This will be win #56 but its just going to be a glorified sparring session, no reason to hate on Wlad for making the fight. You can compare it to Chicken Little-Audley Harrison all you like but they aren't similar at all.
HAHAHA That's cuz chisora hasn't even stepped in with someone as good as Rogan yet. That's how untested this guy is. The only reason why he's got the british title is cuz he fought a shot and completely unmotivated danny williams (who audley already beat.... twice that's how shit williams was).Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWell if this fight happens it's going to be nothing more than a glorified sparring match, it will mean very little in terms of Wlad cementing his legacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Wlad is hurting for opponents for a number of reasons and odds are he'll have to hire search parties to be able to stay active until El Pollo Explosivo is "ready" and "willing" to fight him.
Everything I said about Chicken Little and Harrison will NOT apply to Wlad-Chisora because Chisora hasn't gotten his ass kicked by some local tomato can chump like Martin Rogan.
Look at who Wlad has to choose from there are worse opponents out there for him, Mormeck, Tua...but there HAS to be someone out there better than Chisora. I'm not pleased with that, but #1 the fight isn't signed yet and #2 Chisora has yet to step in the ring and that's the only way we'll know it's truly happening.
How are your own words tasting lyle? Bitter?
This is so funny it's untrue
It's exactly the same situation as Haye vs Harrison. Stop pathetically trying to rationalise it.
BTW...
This is how Chisora beat a very very bad journeyman in Paul Butlin. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3My1Lb0kA
HF I don't get what you're driving at, the situations causing Wlad to offer Chisora a fight are totally different than the reasons Chicken Little-Audley Harrison got made.
Think a little about these questions before you ridicule Wlad
#1 Who is available to fight Wlad in December?
#2 Who is WILLING to fight Wlad in December?
#3 Wlad wants to fight in December, what would you rather he do A) Fight B) Wait?
I've said the fight doesn't mean anything already, Manny is just tweaking Wlad's style.
Tua would be more of a test for Wlad though Lyle. Not saying he has a chance, BUT he has genuine Power that can without a shadow of a doubt KO Wlad and he has a good chin too. Then again he did just get a gift draw with Barrett so it is a bit poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
This is what is meant by the division being so poor right now and what i'm about to say may outrage some people but Evander Holyfield is probably the best opponent out there for Wlad right now. He is a big name, they have never met, he is in good shape and is already in training for a fight that could easily be cancelled and he is an ATG. Even worse i'd give him more of a chance than most of Wlads recent opposition and he isn't going to retire until he realises he CANNOT unify the HW division at his age. Yes Foreman did it but he was totally different to Evander in that he had the hail Mary punch, whereas Evander has always worn people down first and he won't be able to do that now against any title holder.
I have to respectfully disagree. Haye has a choice of better opponents. Klitschko's running out of opponents, so he has to scrape the bottom of the barrel just to get a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Haye choosing to have a fight with a lesser opponent is completely different from Wlad having to settle for a lesser opponent. Completely different scenario.
Rjjtszyu, Tua is busted he's just not what he once was....may as well schedule Wlad to fight a heavybag!
As for Holyfield, do you really want that? I don't I want Evander to retire. But I wouldn't put it past Wlad to offer him a shot given the lack of people willing to fight him.
He's a fat bastard and Wlad will demolish him, but how about fighting Solis? Other than that, Denis Boytsov? Both are better than Chisora. Chisora should be fighting Fury, not Wlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong