Jose Sulaiman has resigned as president of the WBC - good riddance!

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Day three of the WBC convention in Cancun, Mexico opened with a review of the mandatory defenses due in each weight category, but was temporarily and unexpectedly interrupted by the unforeseen resignation of the longest reigning president of a sporting organization in history – Jose Sulaiman!

The mandatory defenses were discussed starting with the Strawweight division and proceeding on up to the heavyweights.

Strawweight
Champion: Oleydong Sithsamerchai
Mandatory challenger: Juan Hernandez

Light Flyweight
Champion: Omar Niño Romero
Mandatory Challenger: Adrian Hernandez

Flyweight
Champion: Pongsaklek Wongjongkam
Mandatory Challenger: Edgar Sosa

Super Flyweight
Champion: Tomas Rojas
Mandatory Challenger: Juan Jose “Goofi” Montes

Bantamweight
Champion: Fernando Montiel
Mandatory Challenger: Winner of eliminator between Sasha Bakhtin and Christian Esquivel.

Super Bantamweight
Champion: Toshiaki Nishioka
Mandatory Challenger: No mandatory for one year due to recent victory over Mandatory Rendall Munroe.

Featherweight
Champion: Elio Rojas (in recess due to surgery) Juan Carlos Burgos and Hozumi Hasegawa to fight for vacant title November 26, 2010. This winner will be obligated to fight two mandatories.
Mandatory Challenger: Jhonny Gonzalez: 1st mandatory. Winner of Justin Savi and Cholatarn O. Piriyapinyo will be 2nd mandatory.

Super Featherweight
Champion: Vitali Tajbert
Mandatory Challenger: Sergey Gulyakevich
Tajbert is scheduled to defend against former WBC Feather champion Takehiro Aoh in Japan on November 2, 2010.

Lightweight
Champion: Humberto Soto
Mandatory Challenger: Antonio DeMarco and Reyes Sanchez for Silver belt. Soto has written the WBC of plans to move up a weight division and vacate title. Soto and DeMarco are cousins and have stated they will never fight each other. When Soto moves up, silver champion will be elevated to full champion.

Super Lightweight
Champion: Devon Alexander
Mandatory Challenger: Winner of upcoming fight between Ajose Olusegun and Ali Chebah. Regarding the WBC/WBO unification fight vs. Tim Bradley in January 29, 2011, the WBC will only recognize Alexander as WBC/WBO champion if he wins, but not Bradley if he wins. This stems from Bradley opting to relinquish the WBC belt prior to his unification with then WBO champ Kendall Holt.

Welterweight
Champion: Andre Berto
Mandatory Challenger: Selcuk Aydin

Super Welterweight
Champion: Vacant (Winner of Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito will be WBC champion) Mandatory Challenger: No Mandatory until title filled

Middleweight
Champion: Sergio Martinez
Mandatory Challenger: Sebastian Zbik (interim champion). #3 David Lemieux and #4 Marco Antonio Rubio to fight an eliminator. Also, #1 Julio Cesar Chavez, the WBC Silver champion. has yet to decide if he will compete at middleweight or back down at Super Welterweight.

Super Middleweight
Champion: Vacant (Winner of Carl Froch and Arthur Abraham will be WBC champion)
Mandatory Challenger: No Mandatory until title filled. Winner of Froch and Abraham must face Kessler (Champion Emeritus due to eye injury). However, the WBC is also respecting the Super Six Tournament and how it plays out.

Light heavyweight
Champion: Jean Pascal
Mandatory Challenger: Has one year to make mandatory defense. It was voted unanimously voted by the board that the December 18, 2010 fight between Jean Pascal and Bernard Hopkins will be for the WBC Diamond Belt. The bout sold out in 48 hours- 16, 333 seats.

Cruiserweight
Champion: Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Mandatory Challenger: Francisco Palacios. Herbie Hide had decided to change promoters (from Arena Box), had not defended his WBC international title. Hide took part in an eight man, one night tournament, and then subsequently retired from the sport. Prior to this, Hide filed a lawsuit against the WBC, but it appears they have fallen flat.

Heavyweight
Champion: Vitali Klitschko
Mandatory Challenger: Winner of final eliminator between Ray Austin and Odlianer Solis which will take place in Miami on December 17, 2010.

Klitschko has requested the opportunity to make a voluntary defense against Tomasz Adamek on the 40th anniversary of Ali-Frazier I in Madison Square Garden in March, 2011. According to Tom Loeffler, head of K2 Promotions, HBO is even interested in this bout. Klitschko would then make his mandatory defense no later than June, 2011.

President Sulaiman made an impassioned speech justifying his position to have Klitschko be allowed an optional defense in March, then defend against the Solis-Austin winner by June. Sulaiman felt the financial gain from two heavyweight title fights within ninety days would help ease the long standing WBC financial burden stemming from the $30,000,000 judgment against the WBC won by Graciano Rocchigiani. After that judgment in April 2003, the WBC declared bankruptcy, yet has maintained a six-figure monthly payment to Rocchigiani up until 2009, after which the WBC has been unable to make such payments. After an rejected attempt to settle in Germany with representatives of Rocchigiani, Sulaiman has felt the WBC can only go on with either making the payments out of his own pocket, or solicit help from promoters in clearing the aforementioned debt.

After more words amongst involved promoters, Don King, Tom Loeffler and Ahmet Öner, President Sulaiman took the microphone and emotionally abdicated his 35-year presidency to the astonishment of the gathered attendees. He rose from his seat on the dais, declared that he was resigning immediately as president and that the meeting would resume in 90 minutes, at which time the head microphone would be helmed by someone else. Don King then bellowed that he too was finished with boxing, at which time the room emptied. Loeffler, Öner and King accompanied Sulaiman to his suite, in an effort to iron things out and perhaps to encourage the long reigning president to have a change of heart.

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Some of those mandatory's are a disgrace.

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Great news!!! hopefully the WBC folds up all together. Funny how they will not recognize Bradley if he beats Devon Alexander because he said he wants to fight the best out there, even if not WBC ranked guys.

Don't start to may threads but man you beat me to one here!! Bit of a shocker eh. Say's Don king announced he was finished as well :o:confused:

Well at least he's acknowledging the obvious...officially now ?!

Sweet. Now you can't hurt our beloved sport anymore, you fat bastard.

Ty Rochiggani, but lets be honest, this is probably because they were going to take his wages or something, the WBC will still be run by him. Karma is a bitch.

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Don't start to may threads but man you beat me to one here!! Bit of a shocker eh. Say's Don king announced he was finished as well :o:confused:

Well at least he's acknowledging the obvious...officially now ?!

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To be honest mate, I thought someone would've posted it before I did. I'm glad I got to be the bearer of good news.

With regards to Don King being finished? I'm taking that with a pinch of salt as that would say to me that there is no chance of Pac/Floyd (I don't wanna go there) and, obviously, if there was a sniff of money he would be there. He'll be back I'm sure.

Wtf? Looks like we spoke to soon. He is back:

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Long-time World Boxing Council (WBC) president Jose Sulaiman's unexpected resignation on Wednesday over Vitali Klitschko's fight schedule was later overturned by the organisation's board of governors.
Sulaiman, president for nearly 35 years, stunned the WBC's annual convention when he resigned after making a plea that WBC heavyweight champion Klitschko should be allowed a voluntary defense in March before his mandatory defense in June.
But American boxing promoter Don King said the winner of a December bout between the top two contenders should get to fight Klitschko without him having a bout beforehand.
According to Sulaiman, the sanction fees generated from an extra bout would be helpful in going towards a financial burden from the lingering fallout of a legal dispute.
The WBC's board of governors unanimously voted not to accept Sulaiman's resignation. Sulaiman, who later apologized for his outburst, told Reuters his paramount objective is financially saving the WBC.

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I guess the world was a better place for a couple of hours. :(

actually, sulaiman's non-retirement is good for WBC boxing. he, sulaiman, has made the WBC as the most legit and viable boxing organization in the world. that, cannot be disputed!

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

actually, sulaiman's non-retirement is good for WBC boxing. he, sulaiman, has made the WBC as the most legit and viable boxing organization in the world. that, cannot be disputed!

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It WAS. Not sure it still is 'legit' to be honest.

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

actually, sulaiman's non-retirement is good for WBC boxing. he, sulaiman, has made the WBC as the most legit and viable boxing organization in the world. that, cannot be disputed!

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You're crazy. What world do you live on?

sorry but facts are facts, lancey boy!

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

sorry but facts are facts, lancey boy!

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Let's have some then...

I can see King doing his best "Taking Fredo fishing" act ;D....think he's measured the drapes yet and tested the seat?

lance,

how am I killing our sport?

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

lance,

how am I killing our sport?

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From fight news:
"Regarding the WBC/WBO unification fight vs. Tim Bradley in January 29, 2011, the WBC will only recognize Alexander as WBC/WBO champion if he wins, but not Bradley if he wins. This stems from Bradley opting to relinquish the WBC belt prior to his unification with then WBO champ Kendall Holt."

THis is the WBC. They consistently do things that are harmful to the sport. They are a cancer, and your support of them, only fuels the flame.

Milmas.... do we really have to state the hundred of wrongdoing Sulaiman did these last years? The shady judgments, having 2 people holding the same belt at the same time and so on? The guy drove the WBC to a total disgrace.

Not to mention those diamond belts and golden belts or whatever the fuck he gives out to get more money.

jose sulaiman probably isn't the most honorable man in boxing but aside from boxers, who are? everybody is in it for the money. and besides, where would boxing be without these sanctioning bodies? i am all for a u.s. commission created to regulate the machinations of boxing but right now, there isn't one. the wbc, wba, ibf, and wbo is all we have along with other junior organizations.

i will admit that these sanctioning bodies have done some pretty stupid things to the sport but then again, they've also done alot of positive things. and if anyone wants to know what they are, they can look them up at these organizations websites.

jose sulaiman has done a lot of good for the safety of boxers. i read recently that the wbc intervened when then champion omar nino romero was erroneously stripped of his world title after his rematch with brian viloria, because his urine test came out positive and then later on it was proven that it was all a lie. omar nino romero did not deserve his title to be taken away.

say what you will about sulaiman but i think he has the most viable and legit organization in boxing. and until something better comes up, these organizations are all we've got!

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

jose sulaiman probably isn't the most honorable man in boxing but aside from boxers, who are? everybody is in it for the money. and besides, where would boxing be without these sanctioning bodies? i am all for a u.s. commission created to regulate the machinations of boxing but right now, there isn't one. the wbc, wba, ibf, and wbo is all we have along with other junior organizations.

i will admit that these sanctioning bodies have done some pretty stupid things to the sport but then again, they've also done alot of positive things. and if anyone wants to know what they are, they can look them up at these organizations websites.

jose sulaiman has done a lot of good for the safety of boxers. i read recently that the wbc intervened when then champion omar nino romero was erroneously stripped of his world title after his rematch with brian viloria, because his urine test came out positive and then later on it was proven that it was all a lie. omar nino romero did not deserve his title to be taken away.

say what you will about sulaiman but i think he has the most viable and legit organization in boxing. and until something better comes up, these organizations are all we've got!

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The top boxers don't need them, as Mosley and Mayweather have proven when they both said fuck the WBA title or any title and just fought, it still was a big money maker with 1.4 million PPV buys. Of course Sulaiman came out and complain that the big fight didn't involve 1 of the shady organizations. The little no name boxers might need them to attract attention to a "world title" fight and make money, but not the big stars.

And where would boxing be without these organizations? In much better shape I would bet.

bulldog,

i agree that boxing would be better without them but it is what it is, until something else better comes along, it's all we've got!

Belts don't make the fighter and matches as far as the networks and increasingly the fans are concerned. The down side is lesser known fighters will never achieve the spotlights equally so in fairness a "championship" helps them on that road and spreads opportunity. Though it also results in Andre Berto's who hasn't proven jack on a championship high level. Just saying. They continue to basically be a selling point and avenue to rake in fat pockets for hype merchants like Sulaiman and cronies. The W.e B.e C.ollecting and alphabet soups water down an already heavily scrutinized sport. Also Sulaiman hates kittens.

The WBC is crap. Just look at next weekends fight for example. Margarito has one fight at jr. middleweight, pacquiao has zero. Yet they are fighting at a catch weight for a vacant belt. Why?? so the WBC can a sanctioning fee. Other boxers need to step up and stop paying the fees for these meaningless belts.

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

jose sulaiman probably isn't the most honorable man in boxing but aside from boxers, who are? everybody is in it for the money. and besides, where would boxing be without these sanctioning bodies? i am all for a u.s. commission created to regulate the machinations of boxing but right now, there isn't one. the wbc, wba, ibf, and wbo is all we have along with other junior organizations.

i will admit that these sanctioning bodies have done some pretty stupid things to the sport but then again, they've also done alot of positive things. and if anyone wants to know what they are, they can look them up at these organizations websites.

jose sulaiman has done a lot of good for the safety of boxers. i read recently that the wbc intervened when then champion omar nino romero was erroneously stripped of his world title after his rematch with brian viloria, because his urine test came out positive and then later on it was proven that it was all a lie. omar nino romero did not deserve his title to be taken away.

say what you will about sulaiman but i think he has the most viable and legit organization in boxing. and until something better comes up, these organizations are all we've got!

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Here is what Jose Sulaiman and his corrupt friends have been up to since last year:



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From Dan Rafael of ESPN

"Not only is the WBC disgusting, it's also stupid. It awarded Rafael Marquez the idiotic "silver belt" at junior featherweight even though he won it as a featherweight when he stopped Israel Vazquez in their fourth fight in May. So let me see if I have this right: Now you can win a WBC trinket in a division in which you didn't even compete? Beautiful. No more making weight to win a title! You know what the means right? Any day now we ought to see Jose Luis Castillo come in as a welterweight but be awarded the lightweight silver strap. What will they think of next"
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According to Dan Rafael's weekly chat, Jose Sulaiman is pressuring Sergio Martinez to vacate the WBC middleweight title, because Sulaiman wants to make Chaves Jr. vs Duddy for the WBC Middleweight championship of the world.

Here's the kicker: the WBC already has a interim WBC middleweight champion.

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THis is funny. Essentially, Israel Vasquez refused to purchase a "silver" title off of Jose Sulaiman, so the fat little monkey of a man, sent him an angry letter demanding that he return the last wbc title that was given to him last year.


Sulaiman, WBC now sticking it to Vazquez
May, 26, 2010
From Dan Rafael

WBC president for life Jose Sulaiman, the tyrannical one, is at it yet again. Well, not exactly -- because "at it again" would indicate that at some point he actually stopped his wicked ways. But they apparently will never end.

In March, El Presidente threatened to take away the junior welterweight belt held by Devon Alexander for the ghastly crime of -- hold onto your hat -- wanting to fight fellow titleholder Timothy Bradley! For shame! How dare Alexander even think of something so objectionable!

In April, Sulaiman tried to shake down Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Shane Mosley for $45,000 for the symbolic (of nothing) diamond belt. I guess there must have been another payment due to Graciano Rocchigiani. Mayweather and Mosley both refused to fight for the belt and, believe it or not, the sun still came up the next morning, probably to the chagrin of the president for life.

(As an aside, because Manny Pacquiao defeated Miguel Cotto last fall and accepted the diamond belt in the same welterweight division that Mayweather and Mosley fight in, had the winner of their May 1 bout paid for the diamond belt, would he have been the interim diamond belt champion? But I digress.)

This month, Sulaiman turned his ire on Israel Vazquez, the Mexican warrior who has probably spilled a gallon of blood over the years defending the WBC junior featherweight title.

Vazquez, of course, met Rafael Marquez for the fourth time last week in the final chapter of their glorious, all-time rivalry. Their first three classic fights were for the WBC's 122-pound title. The fourth fight, at featherweight, was not a championship bout -- not that it mattered to anybody.

As usual, however, the WBC believes that the boxing world revolves around the WBC and that, naturally, it had to insert itself into the fight in some way. It wanted Marquez and Vazquez to fight for its "silver belt," whatever the hell that is. Originally, the WBC announced that this newly created bizarre little title would replace the interim belts it had been handing out like candy on Halloween. Since Vazquez and Marquez had fought only once apiece at featherweight and had been out of the ring for ages, neither of them really qualified for an interim belt. But a silver belt? They could have that for the right price.

Sulaiman said the WBC voted unanimously to award the belt to the winner. That must be how the president for life keeps getting elected unanimously over and over whenever his term is up, as happens in third-world countries run by dictators.

Anyway, Marquez and promoter Gary Shaw went along with the scam. I have no idea why, but that is certainly their prerogative. If Marquez wants to waste his hard-earned money by paying a sanctioning fee for a worthless title, that's his business.

But it is also the prerogative of Vazquez to decline, and that's what he, manager Frank Espinoza and Golden Boy promoter Richard Schaefer did, having fended off several overtures from Sulaiman.

The president for life didn't like the decision. How dare Vazquez refuse to fight for his pointless/meaningless/expensive/garbage trinket! How dare he refuse to pay up!

Espinoza had declined the invitation to fight for the belt in a letter to the WBC a month before the May 22 fight. The feeling on the Vazquez side was that he was near the end of his career and wanted to keep as much of his career-high payday of $800,000 as possible. There was no need to spend thousands of dollars on a title, especially one that was basically meaningless. In other words, thanks for the offer, but no thanks. Good for Vazquez.

But that wasn't good enough for Sulaiman, who continued to pursue Vazquez. The holier-than-thou president for life couldn't handle the rejection because, after all, the boxing world is supposed to revolve around him and his fiefdom, where no members of his puppet board of governors ever tell him no. (Or maybe there was yet another payment due to Rocchigiani?)

Sulaiman, filled with righteous indignation, wrote a hysterical letter back to Espinoza, blasting them for rejecting the silver belt.

The president for life even had the audacity to demand that Vazquez return his "emeritus" championship belt, which Vazquez had been given during a long layoff while recovering from eye injuries suffered against Marquez during WBC title fights. In reality, Vazquez had been stripped of the real title and tossed aside because he couldn't defend it for an extended period, thereby costing the WBC money. The WBC then gave Vazquez the nonsense "emeritus" title and moved on without him. Until, of course, it could suck a few more bucks out of him for a silver belt.

In part, here is what Sulaiman wrote to Espinoza, and pardon the grammar and run-on sentences, for which I will cut him some slack because English is not his first language:

"I would never believe that you, much less Israel, would take such an action stepping shamelessly on the organization and the person that have placed every step of the ladder in the whole career of Israel Vazquez, including his election as Emeritus WBC World Champion, after his surgery, when no one was sure that he would come back to boxing, [a] crown to which very few and selected champions have ever been appointed to.

"At the 78 years of my life, to accept something so cynical, disrespectful and unfair for the WBC and myself -- as your decision is, without a doubt -- is just leading me to doubt if my nonprofit 66 years [of] life in boxing has been worth it. Yours Mr. Espinoza, is a shameless and inhuman action, as there is not one single minute of my knowing you and Israel that I have not offered you my unlimited and full support, and your action has been so morally hurting to me that I cannot keep it to myself, as I have always done in the past.

"I kindly ask you to please return to the WBC the Emeritus Championship belt, which was presented to Israel with your presence in a special press ceremony in Mexico City. … This is an experience that I will never forget for the rest of my period in life."

I could laugh for a day at that hilarious, sanctimonious crap. The pure lunacy from the president for life is something that I will never forget, either.

Jose Sulaiman and WBC are now sticking it to Israel Vazquez - ESPN

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From Dan Rafael's Blog:

Yet another of the billion-plus reasons why the WBC is an absolutely disgusting organization: In the May rankings, president for life Jose Sulaiman and his puppets rank Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. No. 1 in the junior middleweight division (which, by the way, he doesn't even fight in any more). There are no words to describe the utter fraudulence of such a rating. Almost as big of a joke is Antonio Margarito -- out for 16 months for trying to cheat with loaded gloves against Mosley before returning to win a nothing fight at 154 pounds a couple of weeks ago -- being absurdly ranked No. 2. There should be an investigation.

Oscar De La Hoya has been missing in action - ESPN

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New WBC handwraps policy: For safety or profit?

Kelly Pavlik sat on a folding chair in his dressing room late Saturday night at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J. Blood seeped from ugly cuts above both eyes. Twenty minutes earlier, he’d lost a hotly-contested battle to Sergio Martinez and, with it, the middleweight championship of the world.

Kelly was physically and emotionally spent. Leaning forward on his chair, he spat a gob of bloody saliva onto the floor.

World Boxing Council executive secretary Mauricio Sulaiman, the son of WBC president Jose Sulaiman, and Ed Pearson, the WBC’s on-site supervisor for Pavlik-Martinez, entered the dressing room.

“The handwraps,” Mauricio said.

Over the years, the WBC has industriously collected boxing memorabilia. Much of this memorabilia, according to Mauricio, has been joyously given by fighters as a sign of respect for his father.

On occasion, fighters have been less joyful about it. On the night that Pavlik won the middleweight championship from Jermain Taylor thirty months ago, Mauricio left Kelly’s dressing room with the new champion’s trunks.

Pavlik was not pleased.

“It was a misunderstanding,” Mauricio later explained. “I was led to believe that Kelly wanted the trunks to be presented as a gift to my father because of his respect for my father and the WBC. When it was brought to my attention that Kelly wished to have the trunks back, I arranged quickly to return them.”

As was pointed out to Mauricio that night, federal law provides, “No officer or employee of a sanctioning organization may receive any compensation, gift, or benefit, directly or indirectly, from a boxer [other than a sanctioning fee].” Violation of this law is a crime punishable by up to one year in prison and a fine of $20,000.

Earlier this year, the WBC added a new wrinkle to its way of doing business. It instituted a rule requiring that the on-site supervisor at a WBC-sanctioned fight inspect each fighter’s handwraps after the fight for evidence of wrongdoing.

This was done in response to the much-publicized incident in which Antonio Margarito’s hands were found to have been improperly wrapped, according to Joe Dwyer, a member of the WBC Board of Governors.

Well and good.

Then things get not so good.

According to Dwyer, “After the on-site supervisor inspects the handwraps, he sends them to WBC headquarters in Mexico City for further inspection. Then, if necessary, they’re sent to the lab for further study.”

To Dwyer’s knowledge, there has never been a need for the WBC to send any of the handwraps to the lab for further study.

The WBC policy only makes sense if one believes that the opposing fighter’s camp (which observes the handwrapping process), the governing state athletic commission (which regulates the handwrapping process) and the on-site WBC representative (who examines the handwraps after the fight) are all incapable of doing their job.

Of course, there’s another factor to be considered. The handwraps that are sent to WBC headquarters in Mexico City are important pieces of boxing memorabilia. They have sentimental value and are sometimes worth a lot of money.

Craig Hamilton is the foremost expert on boxing memorabilia in the United States. How much does he think the handwraps from Pavlik-Martinez are worth?

“They’re nice pieces,” Hamilton answers. “With proper authentication, which you have here, I could sell the Martinez and Pavlik handwraps together for a minimum of a thousand dollars. And they might bring considerably more.”

When asked what the WBC does with the handwraps after they’re inspected in Mexico City, Dwyer answered, “I would assume they’re discarded.”

It’s hard to imagine Jose Sulaiman throwing a thousand dollars worth of boxing memorabilia in the garbage.


By Thomas Hauser
New WBC handwraps policy: For safety or profit?
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The WBC and its president-for-life, Jose Sulaiman, are nothing more than a bunch of greedy bullies whose recent actions illustrate my longstanding assessment to a tee.


As for the bullying nature of the organization, the WBC seems to think it runs boxing and that it can call the shots -- that it can force any fighter in its rankings or a holder of one its titles to bow down and kiss the ring whenever Sulaiman snaps his greedy little fingers.


Recently, Sulaiman sent a letter via e-mail to unified junior welterweight titleholder Devon Alexander. Copied on the letter, which I got a copy of, were WBC executive Mauricio Sulaiman (Jose's son and chief excuse maker) Don King (Alexander's promoter), and Dana Jamison (King's top lieutenant).


Was it a letter congratulating Alexander on his outstanding knockout win against Juan Urango to unify titles March 6? No.
Was it a letter complimenting Alexander for being a role model, a credit to boxing and one of the most humble, respectful young men you will ever meet? Nope.


Instead it was a letter threatening Alexander's status as WBC 140-pound titleholder. Alexander's transgression? He had the audacity to say that he would like to face WBO titleholder Timothy Bradley Jr., whom many regard as the best junior welterweight in the world not named Devon Alexander.
In his letter, Sulaiman wrote, "I read today in the papers that you want to fight Timothy Bradley for the WBO championship. I appreciate the information and I kindly ask you to immediately present the resignation to the WBC championship, as it seems that our organization is not up to your stature as a boxer. The WBC green and gold belt has been the dream of many boxers in the world, but apparently it is not yours. I will be waiting for your resignation and may you have good luck in your fight."


Have you ever read something so arrogant and, frankly, delusional in your life? Let me see if I have this straight: Alexander, one of the finest fighters in the world, wants to fight another top fighter and Sulaiman takes offense? Let me tell you what I take offense to: that Sulaiman tarnishes boxing on almost a daily basis with his nonsense and by regularly forcing terrible mandatory fights and working against great matchups, like a Bradley-Alexander fight would be. Who the hell does he think he is?


Kevin Cunningham, Alexander's manager and underrated trainer, was about as stunned as I was when he read the garbage from Sulaiman.
"Devon is calling out Bradley because Bradley and Devon are considered the two best junior welterweights in the world and because that's the fight fans want to see to determine who is the best junior welterweight in the world," said Cunningham, who was disgusted by the letter and said Alexander has no intention of giving up his title.


If the WBC wants the belt back, it will have to strip Alexander and then prepare for a lawsuit. I actually hope the WBC goes for it and strips Alexander, because he would win his lawsuit and hopefully put the miserable organization out of business once and for all.


The Sulaimans did not respond to a request through their publicist for a comment.
"I've never heard of anything like this in my 45 years of living -- that a sanctioning body would want to strip its champion because he wants to fight of the best fighters out there," Cunningham said. "It's not like we are trying to avoid a mandatory. We have no problem making our mandatory when it is due. To get a letter like this is insane. How do you tell a guy to resign his title when he did nothing wrong? This sanctioning body is asking the kid to resign his title because he said he wants to fight the best guys out there? Are you [expletive] kidding me?"
I wish Sulaiman was.


Now onto the topic of the WBC's blatant and unending greed. I laughed out loud when I read a missive from Sulaiman expressing "concern" for the way sanctioning bodies use interim titles "when they should be used strictly when a champion leaves a title inactive for medical or legal problems."
The WBC, of course, is historically the worst offender in the business this side of the WBA when it comes to approving interim belts for no apparent reason. However, Sulaiman forgot to mention that he is responsible for the WBC's insane reliance on interim belts as a revenue stream.


In any event, Sulaiman said he would recommend to his puppet group of WBC governors at the annual convention in November that they institute the WBC "silver title," which would be a "substitution of an interim championship that does not represent a real title, when it is approved only for a fight without real significance."


In other words, every fight should have some dumb belt attached to it because he thinks it somehow helps the sport. Of course, the real reason is so Sulaiman can use the fees to line the WBC coffers and his own bank account because there are too many promoters, managers and fighters out there who want to keep Sulaiman happy, so they go along with what is, in essence, extortion.


I loved how Sulaiman tried to justify the invention of another bogus title by saying "ways must be found to keep the interest of boxing fans in the world, who are depending on reform that the WBC has been doing for three decades."


What an absolute joke. The WBC, with so many reprehensible rulings, worthless forced mandatory fights and numerous approved mismatches, is responsible for much of boxing's downfall over the past two decades. Adding a silver belt, like it tried to add the diamond belt for catch weight fights, is more of the same old money grab.



Here's an idea for Sulaiman, one which I will give him for free and not charge a sanction fee: How about he strip Alexander, offer him a silver belt replacement and then crawl under a rock.

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The WBC has stripped Edwin Valero of the WBC lightweight title, and it will now be up for grabs in Huberto Soto vs TBA.

This is despite the fact that Valero made his madatory on saturday.

The alphabet gangs reasoning- because he needs time for his cut to heal, and they don't want the title tied up. (fightnews)




I would seriously donate money to a terrorist group whose aim it was to destroy the alphabet gangs.

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Dan Rafael of ESPN.COM/BOXING

As usual, WBO, WBC should be ashamed


The hypocrisy of the WBC is just sick. Here's an organization that does as it pleases with no regard for common sense or fairness trying to punish a fighter for nothing more than dropping a couple of four-letter words.

After Cristobal Arreola was stopped in the 10th round by Vitali Klitschko on Sept. 26, he was upset and disappointed with his performance. Still, Arreola was man enough to do a postfight interview on HBO in the ring in the immediate aftermath of very tough loss. During that interview, Arreola dropped a few F-bombs. Mind you, he wasn't aiming them at anyone, and was certainly not doing it in a threatening manner.

Still, the WBC and its sanctimonious president for life, Jose Sulaiman, saw fit to ridiculously "suspend" Arreola for six months during its annual convention this week in South Korea.

According to the WBC news release, Sulaiman said there was no way he could allow a boxer associated with his organization "to express himself in such a vulgar way without getting a penalty."

I almost passed out when I read that garbage. Sulaiman should be suspended for life for all the detriment he has caused boxing.

The suspension can't prevent Arreola from fighting. He'll be back on HBO on Dec. 5. What it means is that the WBC will keep him out of its rankings for six months. But it was still a moronic move by the WBC, which regularly has ranked convicted felons and had fighters facing serious criminal charges fight for its titles.

I don't recall the WBC doing anything when in a television interview after a fight Mike Tyson threatened to rip out Lennox Lewis' heart and eat his children. Instead, the WBC made Tyson the mandatory challenger for Lewis.

And at this week's convention, the WBC announced that it made a deal with Tyson -- a convicted rapist -- to use a reproduction of his fist and forearm on the trophies given to recipients of the WBC's annual awards.

But Arreola swears and is punished? What a joke. This is boxing, not a convent.


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Another desperate grab for cash by WBC
by Dan Rafael




• As much as I've punished the awful WBA for its title lunacy (not to mention pitiful rankings), did you really think I would allow the dastardly WBC to escape my wrath for its latest attempt to further destroy boxing?
The WBC, which also loves having multiple so-called champions in the same division (although not nearly as much as the WBA), now has yet another belt it wants to hand out -- for a fee, of course.
And get this -- it won't even represent any particular weight division. Instead, the WBC, in an effort to drum up more sanctioning fees, has invented something called the "WBC Diamond Championship," which WBC president Jose Sulaiman describes (presumably with a straight face) as "an honorary championship exclusively for fights between elite boxers."
Translation: "How can we at the WBC muscle in on the action and grab a few bucks when superstars fight in catchweight bouts? How about we just make up some phony title to attach to the match?"
(And, by the way, one would think that any championship fight should be between elite boxers, right?)


Undoubtedly, the first fight the WBC will be trying to squeeze cash out of is the one between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez, who are fighting Sept. 19 at 144 pounds without a title at stake.
Sulaiman said this new trinket was "approved by a unanimous vote of the WBC Board of Governors, and will actively participate to keep boxing as great as ever with new and exciting formats for the fans."
Translation: "We think boxing fans are stupid and we can make more money with this."


By the way, Sulaiman's "unanimous votes" have about as much credibility as the results from the recent Iranian presidential election.
Sulaiman went on to say, "The WBC believes that this belt will play a very important role in modern boxing as the fights between elite boxers called 'catchweight' fights have not been a complete success due to the fact that the advertising is only done for fans to know who is the best between two fighters and nothing else is at stake. The WBC will propose that the promotion renders homage to the two greatest fighters of such division, as they will be showcased in the belt."


Translation: "We'll do anything to make a buck, even something this stupid. Please, please, please, promoters and fighters -- give us your money!"
In conclusion, Sulaiman said, "I am very proud of this step taken by the WBC, as it will be in benefit of improving boxing, in benefit of the boxing fans of the world, as well as promoters, television and everybody involved in the sport of boxing."


Translation: "There's a sucker born every minute."


• Let's give credit where credit is due to promoter Gary Shaw. He has been criticized (including by me) for grabbing casino money and doing very little to help build a fan base for light heavyweight Chad Dawson. That's why, for example, Dawson fought in front of puny crowds in Las Vegas for his two fights with Antonio Tarver. Neither fight belonged there, and the pathetic gate receipts proved it. However, Shaw is taking a risk (because there are no financial guarantees) and bringing Dawson's Nov. 7 rematch with Glen Johnson to the XL Center in Hartford, Conn.; Dawson is from Connecticut. I hope Shaw and his staff get the word out so the risk pays off with a rocking crowd for an excellent fight. One downside, however, is that my pals at the WBC, which already has an active, uninjured titleholder in Jean Pascal, is sanctioning the fight for an interim title. Just what the world needs. Hey, at least it's not for the "Diamond Belt."


• The WBC hasn't limited itself to only interim titles and this "Diamond Belt" crap. Its rankings are equally disgusting. Take a look at the newest heavyweight rankings for just one example of how out of touch with reality they are. In another sign of the Apocalypse, the WBC ranks journeyman Ray Austin No. 2, meaning he looms as a possible mandatory challenger for the winner of the Vitali Klitschko-Cristobal Arreola bout. Isn't it bad enough that Austin already got one thoroughly undeserved title shot from the IBF and was obliterated by Wladimir Klitschko in two rounds in 2007?
• How about a few fights I hope happen: Tomasz Adamek versus Bernard Hopkins; Celestino Caballero versus Juan Manuel Lopez; any combination of fights between Timothy Bradley, Amir Khan and Devon Alexander; Edwin Valero versus Humberto Soto; and Hozumi Hasegawa versus Joseph "King Kong" Agbeko.


• There's supposed to be a purse bid Monday for Daniel Santos' junior middleweight mandatory title defense against Yuri Foreman. I think watching the bids be unsealed will be more exciting than the fight.


• Speaking of Santos-Foreman, you know a week can't go by without the wretched WBA making another horrific decision. The latest one is that it will sanction an Aug. 30 fight in Osaka, Japan, for an interim junior middleweight belt. Santos is supposed to defend against Foreman, but, hey, it's the WBA, so why not schedule yet another title bout in the same division? It's so much fun, right? In this case, the atrocity pits Japan's Nobuhiro Ishida (20-5-2, 7 KOs) against Marco Avendano (27-6-1, 19 KOs) of Venezuela in a rematch of a split decision Ishida won in December. Never mind that both fighters are utterly obscure and that neither journeyman even remotely deserves a title fight -- or even a title eliminator. But that doesn't matter, because the WBA won't be satisfied until it gives out multiple belts in all 17 divisions. After that happens, I'm sure the WBA will begin to create even more divisions so it can manufacture more garbage titles.





Another desperate grab for cash by WBC - ESPN

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Although Kelly Pavlik is the WBC middleweight champion, and his last defense was against Marco Rubio, the WBC's own mandatory challenger, the WBC has inexplicably created an interim middleweight title which will up for grabs (for a small fee) in the Sebastian Zbik vs Domenico Spada July 11 fight.

source: fightnews.com




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From Dan Rafael's blog today at ESPN.COM/Boxing




I won't even get into the fact that the WBC has positioned Oleg Maskaev as the mandatory heavyweight challenger for Vitali Klitschko, even though Maskaev was knocked out by Samuel Peter a year ago to lose the title and since then has earned nothing but a pair of inconsequential wins against guys who wouldn't rank in the top 50.


Today, let's simply take a look at the junior middleweight division, where the WBC has created such nonsensical rankings that upon first look you might think they were just a mistake. Sadly, they aren't.


Vernon Forrest holds the title and Sergio Martinez holds the interim belt, yet the organization has allowed them both to keep fighting others without taking a stand and ordering a direct fight between them. Put that aside for a moment, though, and scroll through the top 10. I can barely get past the top three because they're so horrendous.


No. 1 is Alfredo Angulo. He is one of my favorite prospects and an absolute delight to watch because of his all-action style. But he has yet to fight anyone of serious quality, so to rank him as the No. 1 contender at 154 pounds is simply a joke. Unfortunately, it's not as cruel a joke as the next two so-called contenders.


No. 2 is Ricardo Mayorga, a former titleholder who pulled out of a February HBO bout against Angulo at the last minute, screwing up the card and disappointing a lot of people. But that isn't even the point. Get this: The WBC ranks Mayorga second in the world (I don't have him in the top 10), even though he hasn't won a fight at 154 pounds since a 2005 decision against Michele Piccirillo.


Since that fight four years ago, Mayorga has fought only three times. In those bouts, he is 1-2. He was thrashed and knocked out by Oscar De La Hoya in May 2006, won a decision in a super middleweight fight against the totally shot Fernando Vargas in November 2007, then got drilled by Shane Mosley in September. For these accomplishments, Mayorga deserves the No. 2 rank in the world? Maybe in bizarro world.


No. 3 is Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., which is one of the single worst rankings I have ever seen. In any division. In any organization. Ever.
This is clearly just the Mexico-based WBC sucking up to Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., the kid's father and one of the all-time Mexican greats, who held various WBC titles during his career.
To rank Chavez Jr. third in the world is an insult to anyone who believes rankings should be fair. Chavez shouldn't rank in the top 20, and that's being generous.


Chavez Jr. is undefeated, but he has faced nobody of remote quality in his career. Even his own handlers at Top Rank admit to pushing him extraordinarily slowly because he generates enormous money despite his limitations as a fighter. That's fine. Chavez headlines a Top Rank pay-per-view card on Saturday night from Tijuana, Mexico, against the thoroughly obscure Luciano Cuello. It's a card that could be pretty entertaining, but those who are going to buy it will do so because they enjoy watching Chavez fight or because they are interested in undercard bouts involving Fernando Montiel, Humberto Soto and Antonio Diaz.
Nobody -- and I repeat, nobody -- is going to buy the pay-per-view because they believe Chavez is the second coming of his father or will be facing a dangerous, world-class opponent.
Well, nobody except maybe the WBC.

for those of you who hate the WBC and their corrupt business dealings, why don't you just boycott all WBC fights. it doesn't make any sense complaining about them if you continue to watch their fights. so my advice to you is this, boycott all regular HBO/SHOWTIME fights along with PPV events that have any WBC champions or contenders.

I have to say I like Graciano Rocchigiani for basically suing and then bankrupting the WBC and it had to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy in 04, but the guy was too soft and was encouraged by other boxers to settle out of court with them. I wish he didn't and made the corrupt organization disappear. It was oh so close to forever disappearing. Close but no cigar!;D

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for those of you who hate the WBC and their corrupt business dealings, why don't you just boycott all WBC fights. it doesn't make any sense complaining about them if you continue to watch their fights. so my advice to you is this, boycott all regular HBO/SHOWTIME fights along with PPV events that have any WBC champions or contenders.

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We don't hate the WBC, we hate what Sulaiman made out of it and we just said that boxing could exist without all these sanctioning bodies.

"for those of you who hate the WBC and their corrupt business dealings, why don't you just boycott all WBC fights. it doesn't make any sense complaining about them if you continue to watch their fights. so my advice to you is this, boycott all regular HBO/SHOWTIME fights along with PPV events that have any WBC champions or contenders."

Hmmm I'm sure you defending them and standing up for them has nothing to do with them being from mexico...boycotting all those fights would hurt fighters more than the wbc. Sanctioning bodies are like cancerous parasites to boxing they'll do anything to make a buck.

I've been at Disneyland for the last 4 days and have heard no boxing news whatsoever, so when I read the title of this thread I was surprised but very happy indeed. Only to read through and be disappointed by the news that it is not really true.

Sulaiman is one of the worst men involved in boxing right now if not the worst and the sooner he is gone the better. But one question comes to my mind quite regular! Could boxing ever truly survive or recover to it's former greatness without sanctioning bodies? I'm sad to say I doubt it!! The top dogs (i.e. Mayweather) are too greedy let boxing be run by organisations like the UFC in MMA as he would get paid less due to his undercard being far more stacked and without the top men of the sport any such organisation would never hold any true legitimacy!

In an ideal world the best way forward would be for the 4 major bodies IBF, WBA, WBO and WBC all to merge as one business and have each champion fight one another until each division has one true champion, but with boxing politics the way it is that would be highly unlikely to happen, in the near future anyway. So the only other way for now is to leave it in the hands of the boxers and their promoters to try and unify a division, BUT if one boxer did hold all 4 titles he would then have 4 mandatory challengers a year in theory and that too would be almost impossible to see happening. These organisations have made boxing confusing and are the main reason for some of the top fights not happening. Something needs to be done soon for the sake of boxing, I just don't know what!!

armin,

it doesn't do any good to whine about the WBC because they're not going away, at least not in the near future. again, if you people hate jose sulaiman and the WBC so much then boycott their fights. it's as simple as that. it's like if someone is punching you in the mouth and you don't do anything about it. it doesn't make sense. do i think jose sulaiman is the best person for boxing? hell no. but guess what, he's better than what we've got right now. he's better than the WBA, IBF and WBO combined. so again, if you don't like what sulaiman is doing, don't watch the fights.

[QUOTE=rjj tszyu;915054] In an ideal world the best way forward would be for the 4 major bodies IBF, WBA, WBO and WBC all to merge as one business and have each champion fight one another until each division has one true champion[QUOTE]

I totally agree with this, it would make boxing credible and understandable to the casual sports fan. At the moment being a champion carries little weight compared to the days when there were just one or two belts.

As you say it will probably never happen but if Boxing is to survive it needs to pull in more interest around the world than it is doing at the moment. Yes certain weight divisions are strong, but Natural athletes especially those who could fight in the heavyweight division. Are already going to other sports because they can make more money and go through less pain than to go near Boxing.
It also annoys and sickens me when the belt holders duck each other, I remember at the start of 2010 discussing with my friends (who know the basics of the boxing world) the two big fights that could happen between Haye and the Klitchko's, Maywhether and Pac. Neither have happened and it just makes boxing more farcical in their eyes than ever.

In my opinion a shakeup needs to happen in the next few years before the sport goes beyond the point of no return.

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"for those of you who hate the WBC and their corrupt business dealings, why don't you just boycott all WBC fights. it doesn't make any sense complaining about them if you continue to watch their fights. so my advice to you is this, boycott all regular HBO/SHOWTIME fights along with PPV events that have any WBC champions or contenders."

Hmmm I'm sure you defending them and standing up for them has nothing to do with them being from mexico...boycotting all those fights would hurt fighters more than the wbc. Sanctioning bodies are like cancerous parasites to boxing they'll do anything to make a buck.

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Just like him defending Margarito for loading his gloves has nothing to do with Margarito being Mexican. ;D

bulldog,

and so what if margarito is mexican? aren't i allowed to be a fan of mexican fighters too? FYI, i'm not only a fan of mexican fighters. i have other favorites as well. anything wrong with that? are you jealous? tell me, what is your problem with me like margarito? i was a fan of his before the scandal and i'll continue to be a fan of his through and through. what's your beef?

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bulldog,

and so what if margarito is mexican? aren't i allowed to be a fan of mexican fighters too? FYI, i'm not only a fan of mexican fighters. i have other favorites as well. anything wrong with that? are you jealous? tell me, what is your problem with me like margarito? i was a fan of his before the scandal and i'll continue to be a fan of his through and through. what's your beef?

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Although I have lost a lot respect for Marg, I think you are trying to say that you don't care about the nationality of a fighter, if you like them you like them. Well that I totally agree with, I like fighters for who they are not where they are from!

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bulldog,

and so what if margarito is mexican? aren't i allowed to be a fan of mexican fighters too? FYI, i'm not only a fan of mexican fighters. i have other favorites as well. anything wrong with that? are you jealous? tell me, what is your problem with me like margarito? i was a fan of his before the scandal and i'll continue to be a fan of his through and through. what's your beef?

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You ain't no fan of boxing homey. You just talked about Mexican fighters and how this Mexican fighter would whoop the other guy just because he's Mexican or an Aztec warrior or something without analyzing styles and other attributes like chin, power, speed, ring tactics, etc. All of your posts contain the same stuff, I'm not the only guy that notices this. And let's be honest you're defending the slime ball Sulaiman and Margarito because they are the same ethnicity as you are. Other posters noticed it too as well. Take that kind of stuff to eastside or boxingscene.

bulldog,

so you are offended because i back mexican fighters? boy, are you a very delicate person!!! maybe i should start calling you "generalpoodle". that would suit you well!

That is GREAT news. As far as I'm concerned, Sulaiman is a biased scumbag whose departure can only improve the sport.