Johnson had Green out on his feet at the end of the 3rd, and still hurt at the beginning of the 4th, fighting an ugly round, hugging and not throwing, Johnson still landing ruthless shots to the body
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Johnson had Green out on his feet at the end of the 3rd, and still hurt at the beginning of the 4th, fighting an ugly round, hugging and not throwing, Johnson still landing ruthless shots to the body
Glen is in!
Temple shot to the fullest!!!
Best example of a temple shot I've seen. Green wasn't hurt but boy was he fucked!
Glen Johnson is a great guy.
How the hell did they have Green ahead. I had it a shut out for Glen .
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Originally Posted by gest12645
Who, all three judges and the pundits had Johnson up?
I saw 2 judges had Green ahead at the end of the scored rounds too. I totally disagree with their judgement though. Johnson was landing the far more telling blows throughout.
Quality performance from Johnson. I'm glad he pulled the win.
Unless my eyes are fucked with my old age, I thought two of them had Johnson 1 up and one had him 3 up?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Yeah, I thought I saw what I saw and gest makes me think I wasn't seeing things. Not a big deal, was still close and the knockdown would have levelled it out. Johnson stopped him good and proper anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Unless my eyes are fucked with my old age, I thought two of them had Johnson 1 up and one had him 3 up?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I don't know how the judges could give Green more than a round or two. His body language was fucked after he got hurt. I'd have a hard time giving rounds to a guy who looks like he doesn't wanna be there.
Good performance by the "Road Warrior" Would love to see him and Froch in the next round. What a fight that would be :cool:
Back to ESPN for Green.
Roth & Houck had Green up 67-66 and Clements had it 68-65 Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
I was shocked how terrible Allen Green looked. I thought he was going to win but I was very wrong. Glen looked great tho. So does he fight ward next?
Congrats to Johnson.
I was one of the people who had reservations about him being in super 6. I didnt see how an old man in his 40's with losses in double figures, moving down in weight was going to be a decent replacement. However he showed that he isnt as bad as Green and did a job on him. Fair play to him. It makes Ward display against teh same man look poor seemings as he couldnt even drop him.
Weight making was not a problem for Glenn and I hope he does well.
All credit in the world to Johnson, who at 41 remains competitive and dedicated. Not much to say about Green, however, who looked like shet. Kind of speaks to the quality of the weight division (or lack of), when an aging Johnson and a mediocre Green are in a Super Six tournament. I guess that's why this type of thing (tournament) isn't needed in the lower weights... more quality fighters in there. Regardless, I think Abraham sweeps through the tournament and ends up undisputed champ. IMO, he's the only one in the tournament worth watching.
Dirrell already did a number on Abraham and even if he wouldn't of gotten hit with the cheap shot, i had him ahead by quite a bit, IMO Abraham sparks Froch and then goes on to get schooled by Ward, also see Ward being the one with obviously the most impressive resume in the division, i'd dare to go as far and say his record would already be more impressive than Calzaghe's at super middle, with wins over Miranda, Kessler, Green, Bika, Johnson, and Abraham (that is if everything goes as expected)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
They need to bottle and sell Johnsons DNA. Skill wise he is pretty ordinary...drive and desire wise he is really something special.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesDirrell already did a number on Abraham and even if he wouldn't of gotten hit with the cheap shot, i had him ahead by quite a bit, IMO Abraham sparks Froch and then goes on to get schooled by Ward, also see Ward being the one with obviously the most impressive resume in the division, i'd dare to go as far and say his record would already be more impressive than Calzaghe's at super middle, with wins over Miranda, Kessler, Green, Bika, Johnson, and Abraham (that is if everything goes as expected)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Solid argument. In this case, it's nothing more than a gut feeling that the result would be different in another match between Dirrell and Abraham. AA's got the physical tools to win the whole thing. He has outrageous power and... his resume isn't too bad either. In any case, he's super-exciting to watch, which is one of the reasons why I'm a fan.
Shocked when I heard this result, Johnson is an amazing fighter and man to pull this off. credit to him.
Hey, I told you guys "If Johnson makes weight, he's a very dangerous fighter in the Super Six". The result doesn't surprise me at all, what DOES surprise me is why someone still looking for a big fight (cough, cough) B-Hop......doesn't instinctively say "Hopkins-Johnson 2!"...or perhaps Bernard knows Johnson has improved with age???Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Style-wise Johnson should be easy to handle for Ward or Abraham, but I think he'd give Froch one hell of a fight, I also think at this point he could stop a healthy Kessler as well.
Kelly Pavlik had better thank his lucky stars he never had to fight Glen Johnson...Glen would demolish him as Pavlik is psychologically weak.
Green's body language was awful, he looked like he wanted out of there after Johnson hurt him the first time. It was impressive from Johnson, he landed some good combinations and landed by far the more effective shots. It should be a good scrap against the Froch-Abraham loser
I agree That Dirrell was whooping AA. But AA was seriously turning the tide of the fight. I think if he didnt get DQd then he would've won the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesDirrell already did a number on Abraham and even if he wouldn't of gotten hit with the cheap shot, i had him ahead by quite a bit, IMO Abraham sparks Froch and then goes on to get schooled by Ward, also see Ward being the one with obviously the most impressive resume in the division, i'd dare to go as far and say his record would already be more impressive than Calzaghe's at super middle, with wins over Miranda, Kessler, Green, Bika, Johnson, and Abraham (that is if everything goes as expected)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I agree IMO he is the most exciting fighter in the tourney, but IMO Ward is the most technically skilled fighter and well the smartest fighter in the tourney, although it doesn't make fights interesting he does exactly what he has to in a fight to win, even if it means giving a dull performance, that's why i think that he'll win the tourney and then end up fighting ButeQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesDirrell already did a number on Abraham and even if he wouldn't of gotten hit with the cheap shot, i had him ahead by quite a bit, IMO Abraham sparks Froch and then goes on to get schooled by Ward, also see Ward being the one with obviously the most impressive resume in the division, i'd dare to go as far and say his record would already be more impressive than Calzaghe's at super middle, with wins over Miranda, Kessler, Green, Bika, Johnson, and Abraham (that is if everything goes as expected)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Solid argument. In this case, it's nothing more than a gut feeling that the result would be different in another match between Dirrell and Abraham. AA's got the physical tools to win the whole thing. He has outrageous power and... his resume isn't too bad either. In any case, he's super-exciting to watch, which is one of the reasons why I'm a fan.
Just to clarify. Johnson and Abraham have three points, Froch has two. So, if Froch wins, he moves on to face whoever has more total points in rounds between Johnson/Kessler, and Abraham. If Froch loses, he faces Ward.
I think Froch spanks Johnson.
Froch has the handspeed advantage over him and obviously Carl is much younger, but I think Glen is stronger (physically and psychologically), he's got reach over him (74 1/2" to 75" according to boxrec), and I think the pressure Johnson brings to a fight is enough to take him over the top. Glen wouldn't mind fighting Froch in his back yard, it simply doesn't bother the guy, he fights even harder when he's the "away team".Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Johnson's fighting style is unnerving to a lot of fighter, he doesn't foul, he isn't dirty, he is just scrappy, he does work that people don't like. Glen throws to the body a lot, he is constantly moving forward no matter what you hit him with, and whether the punch is blocked or you catch him clean he never waivers and he'll come back stronger and harder.....I just see that mentally breaking Froch.
Johnson would no doubt beat Jermain Taylor at any point in their careers, which is very sad for me to state because I always thought JT had "it" he had all the potential in the world but it just never picked up after the Hopkins win, it should have all been down hill for him after that.
Green to protest loss
The team of Allan Green has formally notified the Nevada State Athletic Commission of their intent to file an appeal of referee Robert Byrd’s decision to call a halt to his Super Six bout this past Saturday evening against Glen Johnson at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Johnson was awarded a knockout victory at the close of the eighth round. Green went to the canvas after being on the receiving end of what he and his team feel were rabbit punches. Boxing attorney Josh Dubin has been hired to handle the appeal. Dubin is known for successfully overturning Timothy Bradley’s knockout victory over Nate Campbell to a no contest. The appeal will be filed by the end of the week, and the rules of the NSAC entitle Green to a decision within sixty days of the filing of his petition.
Boxing - Green to protest loss
Green always has an excuse....it's never his fault he loses.:rolleyes: He just doesnt have good stamina or chin, average skills and decent power, thats it.
He whupped Jaidon Codrington but vs Edison Miranda you could tell he wanted to get the hell out of that ring. So he's capable of beating D+/C- fighters but vs solid C fighters he's going to get beat and vs anyone better he's toast...he doesn't have the psyche to be a better fighter, he's mentally weakQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Thats harsh Lyle. Not on Green, but on Jaidon and Miranda. I think Jaidon was a solid C level fighter with potential to be much better. And Miranda remains a solid B level guy IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe whupped Jaidon Codrington but vs Edison Miranda you could tell he wanted to get the hell out of that ring. So he's capable of beating D+/C- fighters but vs solid C fighters he's going to get beat and vs anyone better he's toast...he doesn't have the psyche to be a better fighter, he's mentally weakQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Sorry, didn't mean to be harsh, I just don't think either Jaidon or Edison lived up to their true potentials so I may have lowballed their talent. I was meaning to just make a point on Green. He didn't have trouble if the fighter he was up against lacked a little confidence, but if the guy had some stones and knew his way around the ring then Green was in deep shit which is why after the Miranda fight he avoided anyone with a pulse. By all means Miranda AND Ward should have stopped him. I'm just glad Green never fought Dirrell because that would just be a HORRIBLE match two guys with decent talent and no belief in their talents.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkThats harsh Lyle. Not on Green, but on Jaidon and Miranda. I think Jaidon was a solid C level fighter with potential to be much better. And Miranda remains a solid B level guy IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe whupped Jaidon Codrington but vs Edison Miranda you could tell he wanted to get the hell out of that ring. So he's capable of beating D+/C- fighters but vs solid C fighters he's going to get beat and vs anyone better he's toast...he doesn't have the psyche to be a better fighter, he's mentally weakQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Damn shame Green lacks confidence, he could have been better same as Jaidon.