Booth vs Burt

Anyone watch Ringside on Sky tonight?

They basically set up the two managers from camp Haye and camp Klitschko and started the negotiations live on air!

It was fascinating stuff, discussing all the stuff we've all been rumouring about for ages. The splits, the German TV cash. It was a great ambush on both managers.

Booth came out and said lets have a public negotiation, we'll do it all infront of everyone and there will be no secrets for the fans then. They discussed and overcame the mandatories that are floating around. Burt said Vitali was ready to be booked and said let's get it booked for early 2011, Booth said that when he comes to the table it will be to discuss Wladimir as Haye wants him first.

If you haven't seen it, it's worth a watch, it gave a good insight into the other side, the stuff we normally only speculate about or are spoon fed through YouTube clips.

Booth cake across pretty well again, even when defending the farce of a fight. It almost changed my tune about the fight, why Haye fought like he did and about both theirs and Audleys fight plans and how camp Haye had planned for Audley to do exactly what he did.

Didn't see it hopefully it'll pop on youtube sometime. Would be an interesting watch.

The promotion has begun! :cool:

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Didn't see it hopefully it'll pop on youtube sometime. Would be an interesting watch.

The promotion has begun! :cool:

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Mate the promotion began about 3 years ago didn't it?!

It sounded like the fight will definatley happen though which is great news for us all.

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Didn't see it hopefully it'll pop on youtube sometime. Would be an interesting watch.

The promotion has begun! :cool:

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Mate the promotion began about 3 years ago didn't it?!

It sounded like the fight will definatley happen though which is great news for us all.

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:shakehead:....seemed that way the last time too

When they get in the ring with their gloves, the ref, the whole crowd there....then I'll believe it will happen.

The sad thing is that I feel like that for the two biggest fights going. :(

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Didn't see it hopefully it'll pop on youtube sometime. Would be an interesting watch.

The promotion has begun! :cool:

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Mate the promotion began about 3 years ago didn't it?!

It sounded like the fight will definatley happen though which is great news for us all.

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:shakehead:....seemed that way the last time too

When they get in the ring with their gloves, the ref, the whole crowd there....then I'll believe it will happen.

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Boente Refused to have public negotiations which makes me believe the words on the fake contracts offered by these guys.

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Boente Refused to have public negotiations which makes me believe the words on the fake contracts offered by these guys.

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Why on Earth would they not want to negotiate on live British television?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4

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Boente Refused to have public negotiations which makes me believe the words on the fake contracts offered by these guys.

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Why on Earth would they not want to negotiate on live British television?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4

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Why wouldn't they if they've been so upfront about the contracts :confused:

Well it's always 1 more thing from the other camp, the Klitschko's have made contracts that the other camp has signed and since that "back injury" the other side has been making it more and more difficult to make the contract.

Klitschko wanted 2 opitions right? Well the dude signed to fight Valuev and that contract had 3 options. It's all posturing from the WBA title holder's side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9CmRXZm6RI

I found the youtube clip of what you're talking about.

Bernd wants 50/50 straight down the middle, hows that for public negotiations? Seems like Sauerland (go figure) is holding up the fight more than anyone else.

And that was the ONLY thing he could give a straight answer (and Booth didn't disagree) on the rest was politician speak. The thing that Booth made clear was really they want Wladmir first. that surprises me a bit because I actually think he is the better fighter at the mo.

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And that was the ONLY thing he could give a straight answer (and Booth didn't disagree) on the rest was politician speak. The thing that Booth made clear was really they want Wladmir first. that surprises me a bit because I actually think he is the better fighter at the mo.

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The fact that they want Wladimir first was the only thing he said that made me happy as I am 100% certain Wladimir is going to put a hurting on that dude.

Listen the RTL vs ARD argument is ridiculous and the only reason it came up to begin with was because they don't want to give up 1 cent from the British PPV money. And Bernd said the difference between an RTL and an ARD contract is miniscule so why even bring it up if you're the other side unless you want to sabotage negotiations.

Personally I don't see why they should give up a penny of brit pay per view. People buy it to watch haye not klit. Let the brits have the brit money let the ukrainians have the german/ukrainian/russian/whatever money. But thats mypersonal opinion.

As I said before, Booth didn't disagree with a 50/50 split and seemed more than happy to talk publicly and show transparency.

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Personally I don't see why they should give up a penny of brit pay per view. People buy it to watch haye not klit. Let the brits have the brit money let the ukrainians have the german/ukrainian/russian/whatever money. But thats mypersonal opinion.

As I said before, Booth didn't disagree with a 50/50 split and seemed more than happy to talk publicly and show transparency.

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Well it's not 50/50 if they get 100% of the British PPV money now is it?

After hearing about Sauerland having 3 options, I figure the WBA title holder has 1 more fight before fighting a Klitschko all I can say is just look at Valuev whom both Klitschko's offered to fight on several occasions and he never made the fight happen. Sauerland is a bad promotional group, they just keep fights from happening. After knowing about Sauerland's options I actually have a little less blame for the WBA title holder and his trainer/manager

That was nothing new. WE already knew the biggest blocker was Team Klit wanting Haye's PPV money and Team Haye's deal with the Sauerland's.

The interesting thing was Booth saying they want Wlad over Vitali. I now doubt they'll fight Vitali unless they have already had a pop at Wlad's dodgy chin.

I think the Sauderland thing is causing problems, they clearly are taking a cut from Hayes fights and there is one fight left before those ties are gone. So team Haye obviously don't want to sacrifice 10% (or what ever it is) of their biggest purse.

I think 50/50 down the middle on everything is fair enough, you can't really get much fairer than that.

I don't think they should fight Wlad first though.

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Personally I don't see why they should give up a penny of brit pay per view. People buy it to watch haye not klit. Let the brits have the brit money let the ukrainians have the german/ukrainian/russian/whatever money. But thats mypersonal opinion.

As I said before, Booth didn't disagree with a 50/50 split and seemed more than happy to talk publicly and show transparency.

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Well it's not 50/50 if they get 100% of the British PPV money now is it?

After hearing about Sauerland having 3 options, I figure the WBA title holder has 1 more fight before fighting a Klitschko all I can say is just look at Valuev whom both Klitschko's offered to fight on several occasions and he never made the fight happen. Sauerland is a bad promotional group, they just keep fights from happening. After knowing about Sauerland's options I actually have a little less blame for the WBA title holder and his trainer/manager

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lol well maybe if the klits were a bigger draw in their homeland and could create more tv revenue it would be. You can't punish a guy for being popular and having a fan base that happily pay to watch him.

Why not fight Wlad first? He's the one that got called out face to face 2 years ago and Wlad's the one that called out the WBA title holder and called him a bitch.

In my opinion Vitali already had his chance at a top rivalry, if I was Vitali I'd go after Valuev next, its a decent fight to be made and Solis too that's a good fight, but leave the WBA title holder to Wlad it makes for a much more heated rivalry and a more interesting fight.

Solis is gonna end up being Vitali's mandatory anyway isn't he?

So maybe we'll see that and Haye vs Chagev first.

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Personally I don't see why they should give up a penny of brit pay per view. People buy it to watch haye not klit. Let the brits have the brit money let the ukrainians have the german/ukrainian/russian/whatever money. But thats mypersonal opinion.

As I said before, Booth didn't disagree with a 50/50 split and seemed more than happy to talk publicly and show transparency.

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Well it's not 50/50 if they get 100% of the British PPV money now is it?

After hearing about Sauerland having 3 options, I figure the WBA title holder has 1 more fight before fighting a Klitschko all I can say is just look at Valuev whom both Klitschko's offered to fight on several occasions and he never made the fight happen. Sauerland is a bad promotional group, they just keep fights from happening. After knowing about Sauerland's options I actually have a little less blame for the WBA title holder and his trainer/manager

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lol well maybe if the klits were a bigger draw in their homeland and could create more tv revenue it would be. You can't punish a guy for being popular and having a fan base that happily pay to watch him.

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OK well the fight vs Harrison did more than a few PPV buys, but wouldn't one assume that a fight vs Wlad would do far more PPV buys? And you can't assume everyone buying the PPV even in England is a fan of the WBA title holder just as I'm sure the delusional Harrison fans still bought their share of PPVs for that fight. So 100% British PPV revenue is a deal that won't happen.....welcome to Earth HF

Harrison didn't have any fans until the fight was announced!

It's fuuny the klits were happy to offer Haye only the money setanta were paying him so the uk pot basically before he was champ but now he is champ they won't make that same offer all of the uk ppv money. looool.

I dont think it will be the next fight, I think they want rid of Sauralends rights which end after the next fight, but Klits guy seemed a bit of a cock if you ask me, Booth for once I have to agree with if there is higher paying German channel they should make that deal especially if they want 50/50 of British PPV money.

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It's fuuny the klits were happy to offer Haye only the money setanta were paying him so the uk pot basically before he was champ but now he is champ they won't make that same offer all of the uk ppv money. looool.

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You mean back when there was no WBA title on the line and it was an optional title defense vs a cruiserweight just turned heavyweight? Yeah, that is as funny as someone wanting 50/50, getting it, bitching about 2 options then signing a lower money fight that forced him into 3 options......HA......HA...........HA, I'm amused.

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It's fuuny the klits were happy to offer Haye only the money setanta were paying him so the uk pot basically before he was champ but now he is champ they won't make that same offer all of the uk ppv money. looool.

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You mean back when there was no WBA title on the line and it was an optional title defense vs a cruiserweight just turned heavyweight? Yeah, that is as funny as someone wanting 50/50, getting it, bitching about 2 options then signing a lower money fight that forced him into 3 options......HA......HA...........HA, I'm amused.

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It wasn't a lower money fight, it has been reported the same/similar money for obviously a far less demanding fight.

Whatever the deal was back then, not even you can deny Haye/Booths decision to go a different route has turned out bad for them. They now have Team Klit begging for their HUGE PPV money instead of Haye on a couple of million and a three fight rematch deal ;)

What were the options?

Im assuming Saurlands was simply a slice of the next three fights?

What were the Klits?

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It's fuuny the klits were happy to offer Haye only the money setanta were paying him so the uk pot basically before he was champ but now he is champ they won't make that same offer all of the uk ppv money. looool.

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You mean back when there was no WBA title on the line and it was an optional title defense vs a cruiserweight just turned heavyweight? Yeah, that is as funny as someone wanting 50/50, getting it, bitching about 2 options then signing a lower money fight that forced him into 3 options......HA......HA...........HA, I'm amused.

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It wasn't a lower money fight, it has been reported the same/similar money for obviously a far less demanding fight.

Whatever the deal was back then, not even you can deny Haye/Booths decision to go a different route has turned out bad for them. They now have Team Klit begging for their HUGE PPV money instead of Haye on a couple of million and a three fight rematch deal ;)

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Oh no doubt they've played themselves into a much better financial situation but the FACT is Wlad is the man of the division, he has the belts, he can draw 60K fans to watch him fight Eddie Chambers, and he isn't going (nor should he) take anything less than 50/50.

I mean face facts British PPV numbers will increase if he decides to fight Wladimir and the people buying the fight won't all be for the British fighter and some cheering for the British fighter will pay out because they want to see a big heavyweight unification bout and right now you can't have that without a Klitschko. So its not as if Wlad has no room to negotiate...you people act like the fans at his fights were forced to be there.

The fact us Brits get screwed for PPV and the Germans get it for free makes quite a difference.

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It's fuuny the klits were happy to offer Haye only the money setanta were paying him so the uk pot basically before he was champ but now he is champ they won't make that same offer all of the uk ppv money. looool.

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You mean back when there was no WBA title on the line and it was an optional title defense vs a cruiserweight just turned heavyweight? Yeah, that is as funny as someone wanting 50/50, getting it, bitching about 2 options then signing a lower money fight that forced him into 3 options......HA......HA...........HA, I'm amused.

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It wasn't a lower money fight, it has been reported the same/similar money for obviously a far less demanding fight.

Whatever the deal was back then, not even you can deny Haye/Booths decision to go a different route has turned out bad for them. They now have Team Klit begging for their HUGE PPV money instead of Haye on a couple of million and a three fight rematch deal ;)

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Oh no doubt they've played themselves into a much better financial situation but the FACT is Wlad is the man of the division, he has the belts, he can draw 60K fans to watch him fight Eddie Chambers, and he isn't going (nor should he) take anything less than 50/50.

I mean face facts British PPV numbers will increase if he decides to fight Wladimir and the people buying the fight won't all be for the British fighter and some cheering for the British fighter will pay out because they want to see a big heavyweight unification bout and right now you can't have that without a Klitschko. So its not as if Wlad has no room to negotiate...you people act like the fans at his fights were forced to be there.

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I'm suprised at myself but I pretty much agree with all of the above (except the bit in red).
The extra UK PPVs generated by Haye facing Wlad would be huge in compariosn to Haye vs Chagaev for instance.

And lets be real, although I give Haye a chance of beating Wlad, Wlad is THE MAN in the division right now - A WBA strap doesn't change that at all.

However, In regards to an earlier post of yours Lyle, Its pretty clear that from a financial point of view the deal Haye/Booth made will turn out better for them (Based on a fight vs a Klit happening at some point) then if they had gone straight into the fight - also them going the Valuev way will also turn out better financially better for one/both of the Klitschos too, Wlad would certianly be in line for his biggest pay day (I guess it wouldn't pay Vit as well as he got from facing Lewis).

I have only just watched this as I recorded it last night and I was happy to see some of the topics discussed on this site being mentioned, such as....

1# German (and worldwide) TV money - The Klits have some kind of contract with RTL and Haye has been involved with ARD (i think). Now it seems clear that ARD would be offering the bigger money of the 2 so I agree with Booth (if that is the case) they should go with whoever offers the most money in Germany and every other country for that matter. Lets face it even HBO would want to show a Haye-Klit fight so there would be money to be made in the U.S. from this fight. Then here in England I think you would be looking at well in advance of 1 million PPV sales. The Haye vs Wlad fight for me would probably make each man £10 million with a 50/50 split.

2# Sauerlands involvement - This is something I have not really given much thought about until tonight, but after listening to Boentes side of things he sounded as though he would like Haye to take on someone else first and get rid of the problem that is Sauerland. Obviously they are rivals in Germany but they are also on rival TV stations and Sauerland seem to be advising team Haye as far as which Network to go with. I liked Boentes suggestion of he and Booth going to the different stations in Germany (without Sauerland) and drumming up a deal that way.

Although it is not what the boxing world wants it may be worth Haye fighting Chagaev first and killing 2 birds with one stone, getting rid of Sauerland once and for all (denying them their big payday off Hayes back) and getting rid of his mandatory defence. And yes Haye destroys Chagaev for me, the guy had a tough, tough fight with Ruiz and after tonights debacle with bloody Travis Walker I have no doubt Haye gets him out fairly quick. Whatever Chagaev had before the Wlad fight is totaly gone now IMO. Haye though for me needs to stop discussing retirement, he is coming into the prime of his life as an HW and still has a good 4 years at the top left.

3# Public Negotiations - Now this was something I was very happy to hear Booth mention, for far too long now certain people have just taken what the Klits say as being the complete truth, with Hayes side of the story just being rubbished. Well if the Klits and co agree to do this then we will find out exactly what is going on for real. Boente didn't seem at all keen on this but I think it should happen just so we Know who is really to blame should the discussions fall apart again. I'm not trying to say it's the Klits fault for previous negotiations falling apart I am simply very much in favour of this idea from Booth. We all know Haye pulled out before claiming a bad back when really it was down to the imminent collapse of Setanta and then when Haye had all but signed to fight Vitali he decided to go for Valuev in what was obviously an easier route to a title and as a result handed him more bargaining power. But now in hindsight it has turned out better for all parties, there is a lot more money to be made as Haye has Sky on board now and has become something of a household name in the UK.

4# Faith in ABC's - Finally I was happy to hear Boente say that the mandatories would be something that they would be able to get around if need be and that the ABC's would let the unification fights take place before demanding any mandatory defences and I was even happier when Booth agreed that he was probably right and that it was just a hurdle they had to tackle. I do not have the same confidence in the governing bodies to be honest but I do not deal with them like the 2 men who were on Ringside last night.


All in all I think it was a very good idea of Skys to get them both on together at the same time although they did both look a bit shocked by it all. I wonder if they knew they were going to end up head to head on national TV? I doubt that very much! Now it's just time to wait until Wlad gets rid of Chisora and then hopefully it will be time to get the negotiations running properly on the 12th December like Booth said.

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Personally I don't see why they should give up a penny of brit pay per view. People buy it to watch haye not klit. Let the brits have the brit money let the ukrainians have the german/ukrainian/russian/whatever money. But thats mypersonal opinion.

As I said before, Booth didn't disagree with a 50/50 split and seemed more than happy to talk publicly and show transparency.

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Well it's not 50/50 if they get 100% of the British PPV money now is it?

After hearing about Sauerland having 3 options, I figure the WBA title holder has 1 more fight before fighting a Klitschko all I can say is just look at Valuev whom both Klitschko's offered to fight on several occasions and he never made the fight happen. Sauerland is a bad promotional group, they just keep fights from happening. After knowing about Sauerland's options I actually have a little less blame for the WBA title holder and his trainer/manager

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lol well maybe if the klits were a bigger draw in their homeland and could create more tv revenue it would be. You can't punish a guy for being popular and having a fan base that happily pay to watch him.

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OK well the fight vs Harrison did more than a few PPV buys, but wouldn't one assume that a fight vs Wlad would do far more PPV buys? And you can't assume everyone buying the PPV even in England is a fan of the WBA title holder just as I'm sure the delusional Harrison fans still bought their share of PPVs for that fight. So 100% British PPV revenue is a deal that won't happen.....welcome to Earth HF

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Lol Klit could've have the HBO money! :lol:

but to be fair if HBO take Haye vs Klit then Haye should have all that too seeing as that company dropped klit like a bad habbit cuz no one wants to watch him! FACT!

Welcome to the reality!

I actually think if all parties involved have 1 more meaningful fight (free of fight options) everything will be ok. And finally after that little bit on tv I can see some light at the end of the tunnel, just knowing Sauerland is involved says it all, pretty much absolves the WBA title holder for the fights he's had since the Valuev fight, I mean Ruiz was an "ok" fight he was still ranked although not dangerous, Harrison was what it was, and if he fights Chagaev....well I am just a smidge worried about that Ruslan is a hard nosed fighter, he's smart, and he's a southpaw, plus he can take a punch....HOWEVER should he dominate Chagaev or win a hard fought UD (without getting hurt) it builds the fight up a bit more.

Wlad will torch Chisora (show the Brits what he can do) and I think have a fight vs Adamek (on HBO more than likely) and then this megafight is all set up.


If I knew Sauerland had options, I would have understood the posturing a little more and wouldn't have made such a big deal out of it

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Lol Klit could've have the HBO money! :lol:

but to be fair if HBO take Haye vs Klit then Haye should have all that too seeing as that company dropped klit like a bad habbit cuz no one wants to watch him! FACT!

Welcome to the reality!

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Once again the Klitschko's fight in Germany, the fights were tape delayed on HBO OR shown at 4:00 PM (but replayed) and most people in America aren't even off work by then you daft bastard

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Lol Klit could've have the HBO money! :lol:

but to be fair if HBO take Haye vs Klit then Haye should have all that too seeing as that company dropped klit like a bad habbit cuz no one wants to watch him! FACT!

Welcome to the reality!

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Once again the Klitschko's fight in Germany, the fights were tape delayed on HBO OR shown at 4:00 PM (but replayed) and most people in America aren't even off work by then you daft bastard

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Lol excuses excuses. It is what it is. They got taken off HBO cuz no one was watching. You in denile bastard. Are you telling me they never repeat the fight at a more conveinient time? Are you telling me that in America you don't have digital boxes that you can set to record a program to watch back later?

But you know something Lyle I'm glad I speak to you on here cuz then I can say 'i know the Klitschko fan' ;D

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I actually think if all parties involved have 1 more meaningful fight (free of fight options) everything will be ok. And finally after that little bit on tv I can see some light at the end of the tunnel, just knowing Sauerland is involved says it all, pretty much absolves the WBA title holder for the fights he's had since the Valuev fight, I mean Ruiz was an "ok" fight he was still ranked although not dangerous, Harrison was what it was, and if he fights Chagaev....well I am just a smidge worried about that Ruslan is a hard nosed fighter, he's smart, and he's a southpaw, plus he can take a punch....HOWEVER should he dominate Chagaev or win a hard fought UD (without getting hurt) it builds the fight up a bit more.

Wlad will torch Chisora (show the Brits what he can do) and I think have a fight vs Adamek (on HBO more than likely) and then this megafight is all set up.


If I knew Sauerland had options, I would have understood the posturing a little more and wouldn't have made such a big deal out of it

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This is why I think everything should be public in these negotiations. We don't know the ins and outs of all the contracts and when certain things get cleared up like they did on thursday it makes things more tolerable.

I do think Haye should take on Chagaev (as is said in another post to kill 2 birds wth one stone), but I also think he would KO Chagaev with relative ease. Yes he can take a shot but I'm not sure he could take the punishment Ruiz did and I rate him about the same level as Ruiz. Haye for me is far too explosive for Chagaev.

This is what I think will happen.

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I actually think if all parties involved have 1 more meaningful fight (free of fight options) everything will be ok. And finally after that little bit on tv I can see some light at the end of the tunnel, just knowing Sauerland is involved says it all, pretty much absolves the WBA title holder for the fights he's had since the Valuev fight, I mean Ruiz was an "ok" fight he was still ranked although not dangerous, Harrison was what it was, and if he fights Chagaev....well I am just a smidge worried about that Ruslan is a hard nosed fighter, he's smart, and he's a southpaw, plus he can take a punch....HOWEVER should he dominate Chagaev or win a hard fought UD (without getting hurt) it builds the fight up a bit more.

Wlad will torch Chisora (show the Brits what he can do) and I think have a fight vs Adamek (on HBO more than likely) and then this megafight is all set up.


If I knew Sauerland had options, I would have understood the posturing a little more and wouldn't have made such a big deal out of it

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Lol excuses excuses. It is what it is. They got taken off HBO cuz no one was watching. You in denile bastard. Are you telling me they never repeat the fight at a more conveinient time? Are you telling me that in America you don't have digital boxes that you can set to record a program to watch back later?

But you know something Lyle I'm glad I speak to you on here cuz then I can say 'i know the Klitschko fan' ;D

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#1. Facts from our very own Saddoboxing website: on HBO the Klitschko-Arreola fight had higher ratings than Margarito-Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez-Juan Diaz. And in Germany it got an unheard of 52% share.

#2. People want to watch LIVE fights and unless HBO has announcers based in Germany it's impractical to do have their guys cover the fight.

#3. Yes we have DVR, we even have HBO on Demand where we can watch any program at any point in time during the day, but usually we like watching boxing live.

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That was nothing new. WE already knew the biggest blocker was Team Klit wanting Haye's PPV money and Team Haye's deal with the Sauerland's.

The interesting thing was Booth saying they want Wlad over Vitali. I now doubt they'll fight Vitali unless they have already had a pop at Wlad's dodgy chin.

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I don't understand the Klitschko negotiating position on this one. They're always saying that Haye needs them more than they need Haye, as they're making millions fighting anyone on German TV, why would they now be unhappy with all the German TV take, not having to give any to the opposition? Once they're not the biggest draw/moneymaker, now they're demanding 50/50 split?

its a good idea to get rid of sauerland then make the wlad fight but would the british public go for another haye fight other than the brothers now, i mean i bet the ppv on a fight of haye chagaev wouldnt be that great, i think the haye harrison fight did alot of damamge general public wise.

First off Lyle come on man you think Haye wants 100% of the British PPV? No way near but he feels he is worth more than the 50/50, which in a way he is right he was the numbers to prove it Wlad will bring extra ppvs no doubt but not that much more than Haye v pretty much anyone else.

But after seeing that Interview I think Klits team are just as much to blame they can't have 50/50 then also not maximise more income by not fighting on the current TV Station, 50/50 all the way through is fine for me Wlad earns that with the fact he is the main man and is number 1 in the division.