Saw a few moments ago on fightnews that Dhafir Smith with an astounding record of 25-19-7, 4 KOs defeated Jeff Lacy by decision.
I have to say that's it for Lacy's career.
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Saw a few moments ago on fightnews that Dhafir Smith with an astounding record of 25-19-7, 4 KOs defeated Jeff Lacy by decision.
I have to say that's it for Lacy's career.
Exaggeration of a thread title. That was far from an upset
wow, it's absolutely amazing how one fight can mentally destroy the seemingly indestructible Jeff Lacy after being dominated by Joe Calzaghe! just goes to show everybody that physicality isn't the only thing that matters in boxing. boxing is so mental that any boxers who have just a little bit of doubt, can take him from a contender/champion status to also rans...i.e. Lacy, Victor Ortiz and Fernando Vargas as well as others.
Victor Ortiz? Wtf are you talking about? Fernando Vargas never lost to anyone like Dhafir Smith.
amat,
ever since victor ortiz was ko'd by maidana, you can't tell me he has a confidence problem! and fernando vargas was never the same after his ko loss to felix trinidad. i'm not talking about the level of competition, i'm talking about how one fight can basically ruin a fighters mentality!
Vargas won a title after the Trinidad fight. Ortiz has just gone back to fighting in his original style. Neither has fallen to the depths Lacy has. 2 terrible comparisonsQuote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Yes, Calzaghe basically beat Lacy in more than one way. I don't think this was much of an upset anymore. Lacy has been looking very bad and unsure of himself. Its been over for Lacy. Reminds me of how David Reid became to be so miserable after his Trinidad fight. The only thing stopping Lacy from complete embarassment is that he started with such a strong chin. And even that is going away.
I think Lacy was always under developed and limited, a rushed product but was mentally fit...prior to and after Calzaghe thrashing.
Who the hell is Jeff lacy. Is he some fighter who should have quit a long time ago or something ?
Ain't he a running back on the Denver Broncos practice squad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Doubt that was it, he injured his shoulder. Was never the same after that. Nice try though, lol Calzaghe's slaps.....Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
i'm not saying it's over for victor ortiz! what i'm trying to convey is as a boxer, if you've got just a pinch of doubt, it could affect your performance. i will say that fernando vargas was never the same after his defeat to trinidad and victor ortiz, although still young and learning, can turn it all around but after last night's bullshit performance, he's got a long way to go.
no contest,
you cannot compare the jeff lacy's before and after the calzaghe fight. and say what you will about calzaghe being a "slapper", he had lacy hurt and befuddled in that fight. a pre lacy was considered this indestructible fighter and once he got manhandled by calzaghe, he was never in the same mental state!
You could see Lacy as flawed prior, he was only considered indestructable by network barkers who compared him foolishly to a "young Evander Holyfield". The only thing that kept him in Joe fight and later scraps I believe was his chin and mental stubborness. Boxing wise he was never fully there in first place.
He fought Vitali Tsypko right after Calzaghe, and thats were he tore his rotator cuff. He fought halfway through the fight with it and probably should have lost to Tsypko. He was so effected by Calzaghe he fought through an injury to win. Every fight after that he was shit.
his shoulder healed in time but mentally, he was shot!
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Why did he spend the whole entire build up to this fight talking about how he'd had surgery and extensive rehab on his shoulder and that the injury was now recovered then?
If his shoulder was better then why would he lose to a fighter like Smith? Never been the same fighter since Calzaghe that's why.
Dudes name was LEFT HOOK Lacy...he ruined his money punch, ever see him throw the same type of left hooks? What kind of evidence you got that he was mentally shot? Got an example thats not related to his output being down from his shoulder?
Wars...beatings and being a one trick pony of a puncher ruin fighters. Being a stubborn mentally thick type lets you keep coming back to soak them up,unfortunately. Calzaghe exposed his lack of skill firstly and more so. He was very determined, determined to take that beating.
I'll agree Calzaghe exposed him as being a crappy boxer, but he didnt ruin him mentally. Why would he keep coming back and winning some fights if he was ruined mentally? There a difference between being limited in skill and ruined mentally. I never really saw him go into a shell during a fight, he was at least trying to win is all I'm saying.
UD to 23-19-7 (yes 7 draws) Dhafir Smith. Didn't even look close on the cards either (118-110, 117-111, 116-111).
After reading his interview on here a few weeks ago and how he was saying he felt like he was finally over his injuries, i was half interested in seeing how he got on. Turns out - not very well.
Anybody catch any of it? Quite gobsmacked at how quickly his stock has dropped. Re-watched the Calzaghe 0 Lacy fight a few days ago, and i can't quite believe he's gone from being supposedly 'the next best thing' to being a complete non-entity within just a few years.
He never recovered from the calzaghe fight. I met lacy once, he's a nice guy.
Lacy has always been shit, we all knew that before he fought Calzaghe ;D
Calzaghe clearly took something out of him, but that shoulder injury took much of the rest. And Lacy wasn't the bees knees to begin with, he was a bit of a hype job. Had good power, but was limited as a boxer. It is a rather shocking loss, but I don't really buy into his surgery totally fixing him and who really knows where his head is at these days.
You would have to think that this is the end of Lacy as a fighter.
I agree, he never got over the beat down he took and then the injuries got to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
JC ruin this guy, sad.
I don't think this fight was even televised, but Lacy has been ruined for a long time.
Since Calzaghe he's been completely shot, even his wins since then have been questionable at best (save the much smaller Manfredo Jr.) He's had that torn rotator cuff, that still effects his performance since his fight with Tsypko and that hasn't helped either. This isn't an all of a sudden thing though, this is over four years now that fans have been losing the faith in him.
You can make a case of him losing all them fights he won afterwards. Every single one was a struggleQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest