Haye the compulsive liar?
Seems to be popping up on other sites so though I'd share it here...interesting points he makes.
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Haye the compulsive liar?
Seems to be popping up on other sites so though I'd share it here...interesting points he makes.
Well what has he lied about now?
He lied about his back when he pulled out in June 09, I think anyone would in that situation with the legal problems it would of caused, I don't think anyone would fight the biggest fight of your life for free with future earnings also on the line.
He has said he accepted 50/50 bowed to Klits demands and said 2nd July lets do it, Wlad comes back and says he can't rely on Haye and wait that long for the fight he needs a warm up, if the July fight didnt happen he would be out of the ring for over a year.
But then Wlad makes the fight 8/9 weeks before the supposed Haye fight why?? Like I have posted before last time Wlad fought two fights in such a small space of time was 11 years ago so you tellng me he will now do this in the biggest fight of his life?
Either fight Del Boy in March or fuck him off, there both a pair of clowns to be honest.
But if you watched Ringside Booth ( looks a shifty cunt ) made Wlads manager look like a clown and he came off looking much worst than Haye especially when Booth suggested open public negotiations.
Wlad should of agreed to fight Haye on the 2nd July and if it went pair shape then say fuck you never again.
I am assuming you are the author. ;)
PS - going by the evidence; yes he is.
He probaly is
I'd just call it being smart
I think he is dishonest and clearly treats the sport as a business only. Going on recent form history will not treat Haye kindly and he shows little sign of trying to prove himself the best. The Klits have it all wrapped up. Haye will not only go down as a liar, but also a bit of a joke as far as HW is concerned.
So Chagaev and then retirement, eh Haye? Lame.
He's not a fucking compulsive liar, Jesus Christ...
He's a shameless and extremely effective self-promoter.
he is just an annoying twat cos he gets all the media covergae then does nothing! he is probably worst heavyweight champ in history at this moment in time
An effective self promoter doesn't say an opponent isn't worth fighting but will fight him anyway for the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
He's made himself tens of millions of dollars by fighting mediocre opposition and has become one of the most popular, infamous, and discussed fighters in the world in the process. I'd say he's an exceptional promoter.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyAn effective self promoter doesn't say an opponent isn't worth fighting but will fight him anyway for the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Shows the lack of value in the dollar if he's made "tens of millions" (though I would love someone to do the maths, work out the actual cut of Sky etcs that he gets), popular? He seems to be like marmite in that respect. Discussed doesn't always mean a good thing..Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHHe's made himself tens of millions of dollars by fighting mediocre opposition and has become one of the most popular, infamous, and discussed fighters in the world in the process. I'd say he's an exceptional promoter.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyAn effective self promoter doesn't say an opponent isn't worth fighting but will fight him anyway for the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
As much as I dislike David Haye; all publicity is good publicity.
He is very savvy when it comes to self promotion.
The boxing world has been talking about him and Wlad for over two years now - and it was all down to Haye's mouth.
I have no idea what you're trying to say in the first part of your post, other than disputing the amount of money he's made.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyShows the lack of value in the dollar if he's made "tens of millions" (though I would love someone to do the maths, work out the actual cut of Sky etcs that he gets), popular? He seems to be like marmite in that respect. Discussed doesn't always mean a good thing..Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHHe's made himself tens of millions of dollars by fighting mediocre opposition and has become one of the most popular, infamous, and discussed fighters in the world in the process. I'd say he's an exceptional promoter.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyAn effective self promoter doesn't say an opponent isn't worth fighting but will fight him anyway for the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
As for the second part, in boxing being popular is always a good thing. In a sense, the whole sport is one giant and corrupt popularity contest.
Exactly. I don't like him either and his heavyweight accomplishments are certainly suspect, but he's been a brilliant business man.Quote:
Originally Posted by koppas
I don't think he's made "tens of millions".Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI have no idea what you're trying to say in the first part of your post, other than disputing the amount of money he's made.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyShows the lack of value in the dollar if he's made "tens of millions" (though I would love someone to do the maths, work out the actual cut of Sky etcs that he gets), popular? He seems to be like marmite in that respect. Discussed doesn't always mean a good thing..Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHHe's made himself tens of millions of dollars by fighting mediocre opposition and has become one of the most popular, infamous, and discussed fighters in the world in the process. I'd say he's an exceptional promoter.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyAn effective self promoter doesn't say an opponent isn't worth fighting but will fight him anyway for the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
As for the second part, in boxing being popular is always a good thing. In a sense, the whole sport is one giant and corrupt popularity contest.
Is he actually popular was the second part. He seems to have as many people calling him a duck, a chicken and disliking him as he does fans.
Well, I have no idea what the specific amount of money he has made is, but I'm certain that it is well over $10 million dollars at this point. The actual amount is moot, his ability to self-promote has made him a shit-ton of money and made him one of the most high-profile figures in the sport, even though he hasn't had a truly significant victory at HW.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyI don't think he's made "tens of millions".Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI have no idea what you're trying to say in the first part of your post, other than disputing the amount of money he's made.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyShows the lack of value in the dollar if he's made "tens of millions" (though I would love someone to do the maths, work out the actual cut of Sky etcs that he gets), popular? He seems to be like marmite in that respect. Discussed doesn't always mean a good thing..Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHHe's made himself tens of millions of dollars by fighting mediocre opposition and has become one of the most popular, infamous, and discussed fighters in the world in the process. I'd say he's an exceptional promoter.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyAn effective self promoter doesn't say an opponent isn't worth fighting but will fight him anyway for the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
As for the second part, in boxing being popular is always a good thing. In a sense, the whole sport is one giant and corrupt popularity contest.
Is he actually popular was the second part. He seems to have as many people calling him a duck, a chicken and disliking him as he does fans.
As for his popularity, he's hugely popular in the UK and infamous pretty much everywhere else. Boxers don't have to be universally loved to be successful, just look at Floyd Mayweather Jr.
"tens of" is 20 or more (2 tens), which I doubt he has made tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHWell, I have no idea what the specific amount of money he has made is, but I'm certain that it is well over $10 million dollars at this point. The actual amount is moot, his ability to self-promote has made him a shit-ton of money and made him one of the most high-profile figures in the sport, even though he hasn't had a truly significant victory at HW.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyI don't think he's made "tens of millions".Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI have no idea what you're trying to say in the first part of your post, other than disputing the amount of money he's made.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyShows the lack of value in the dollar if he's made "tens of millions" (though I would love someone to do the maths, work out the actual cut of Sky etcs that he gets), popular? He seems to be like marmite in that respect. Discussed doesn't always mean a good thing..Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHHe's made himself tens of millions of dollars by fighting mediocre opposition and has become one of the most popular, infamous, and discussed fighters in the world in the process. I'd say he's an exceptional promoter.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboyAn effective self promoter doesn't say an opponent isn't worth fighting but will fight him anyway for the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
As for the second part, in boxing being popular is always a good thing. In a sense, the whole sport is one giant and corrupt popularity contest.
Is he actually popular was the second part. He seems to have as many people calling him a duck, a chicken and disliking him as he does fans.
As for his popularity, he's hugely popular in the UK and infamous pretty much everywhere else. Boxers don't have to be universally loved to be successful, just look at Floyd Mayweather Jr.
He seems to be turning British fans against him, his all talk no action seems to be putting off many of his most ardent supporters. Success and popularity are completely different things.
Yet people, including myself, still pay to watch him fight...Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboy
im past the point of caring about whos ducking who. if they fight they will fight and if they dont they dont.
i want the fight to happen for the sake of boxing, hopefully for the sake of boxing it will and we can see who is the best. i am going with wlad in the fight though
And that's all that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by koppasYet people, including myself, still pay to watch him fight...Quote:
Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboy
There's an army of morons on this site hating Haye's every word and move yet they can't stop posting about him. Hilarious. Fact.
People pay for crap...plenty of people paid to watch Audley Harrison...