What do you want to see Froch do after the tournament??
It's great to see him back now and the performance against AA was a lot better than i expected. I knew he had the ability to be able to box like he did but I thought the middle rounds would have been a lot closer and carl would have won it down the stretch. He showed us that night that he is a great champion something that I have said on here for years would always happen, most of the time I got laughed at but supported carl well.
After the tournament what should be next for him ? try and rematch kessler ? fight Lucian Bute ? or move to 175 and try and make his name in that weight class. He has a win over Pascal who seems to be the biggest name at the weight class. If Pascal beats Bhop would a fight with Carl be good for boxing?
I want to see Carl keep going and think moving to 175 after the tournament would be a great idea, what do you think ?
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It's great to see him back now and the performance against AA was a lot better than i expected. I knew he had the ability to be able to box like he did but I thought the middle rounds would have been a lot closer and carl would have won it down the stretch. He showed us that night that he is a great champion something that I have said on here for years would always happen, most of the time I got laughed at but supported carl well.
After the tournament what should be next for him ? try and rematch kessler ? fight Lucian Bute ? or move to 175 and try and make his name in that weight class. He has a win over Pascal who seems to be the biggest name at the weight class. If Pascal beats Bhop would a fight with Carl be good for boxing?
I want to see Carl keep going and think moving to 175 after the tournament would be a great idea, what do you think ?
Well that all depends on how he does, I think he takes Bute, Pascal will loose against BHOP and Dawson in rematches for me.
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If he wins, I really want to see him fight Bute. That would be a great clash of styles and a possible FOTY candidate.
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If he wins, I really want to see him fight Bute. That would be a great clash of styles and a possible FOTY candidate.
Agree. I want to see him fight Bute win or even if lost against Glen Johnson. Bute v. Froch would be a great fight for boxing.
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If he wins, I really want to see him fight Bute. That would be a great clash of styles and a possible FOTY candidate.
Agree. I want to see him fight Bute win or even if lost against Glen Johnson. Bute v. Froch would be a great fight for boxing.
Yeah, I agree totally. Bute needs to step up and I've become a pretty big Froch fan over the last little while. It's a fight that has to happen. I wonder if Bute would take it if Froch lost or it he'd just hold out for the eventual winner.
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If he wins, I really want to see him fight Bute. That would be a great clash of styles and a possible FOTY candidate.
Agree. I want to see him fight Bute win or even if lost against Glen Johnson. Bute v. Froch would be a great fight for boxing.
Yeah, I agree totally. Bute needs to step up and I've become a pretty big Froch fan over the last little while. It's a fight that has to happen. I wonder if Bute would take it if Froch lost or it he'd just hold out for the eventual winner.
Unless Kessler is back, Froch is the biggest fight for Bute at 168 if Froch loses. In fact, I bet Bute tries his hand at the losers of the S6 next round. At 168, the losers of the S6 are still the best super middleweights out there.
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CFH
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Rantcatrat
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CFH
If he wins, I really want to see him fight Bute. That would be a great clash of styles and a possible FOTY candidate.
Agree. I want to see him fight Bute win or even if lost against Glen Johnson. Bute v. Froch would be a great fight for boxing.
Yeah, I agree totally. Bute needs to step up and I've become a pretty big Froch fan over the last little while. It's a fight that has to happen. I wonder if Bute would take it if Froch lost or it he'd just hold out for the eventual winner.
Unless Kessler is back, Froch is the biggest fight for Bute at 168 if Froch loses. In fact, I bet Bute tries his hand at the losers of the S6 next round. At 168, the losers of the S6 are still the best super middleweights out there.
I hope so, but he might be content to sell out the Bell Centre against mediocre opposition while waiting for the winner. I think he's anxious to step up though.
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Tam Seddon
It's great to see him back now and the performance against AA was a lot better than i expected. I knew he had the ability to be able to box like he did but I thought the middle rounds would have been a lot closer and carl would have won it down the stretch. He showed us that night that he is a great champion something that I have said on here for years would always happen, most of the time I got laughed at but supported carl well.
After the tournament what should be next for him ? try and rematch kessler ? fight Lucian Bute ? or move to 175 and try and make his name in that weight class. He has a win over Pascal who seems to be the biggest name at the weight class. If Pascal beats Bhop would a fight with Carl be good for boxing?
I want to see Carl keep going and think moving to 175 after the tournament would be a great idea, what do you think ?
Well that all depends on how he does, I think he takes Bute, Pascal will loose against BHOP and Dawson in rematches for me.
Would be a great fight but my money is on Bute...Bute can box he is faster and hits harder...Plus Bute is not beat up like the guys Froch's biggest wins came from...JT was shot after the second Pavlik fight....He was beating Froch til he gassed....Dirrell beat Froch and we all know it.....Froch was just too big for AA but it was perhaps Froch best performence IMO to date...I didn not see the Pascal fight so I cant make a judgement on if Pascal looked like shit and lost due to weight etc or just outclassed...
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Personally I think Carl wipes the floor with Bute, but the fight I really am looking forward to is the one with Johnson I really do think that is a FOTY candidate with Froch JUST coming out on top. Then I see him taking Ward too should that be the final.
If he does then move upto 175 there are 3 huge fights to be had and I think they are all winnable for Froch with Hopkins being the most difficult even now because of his spoiling ability and know how in the ring but I still think Carl could win all 3 as he has already beaten one and now he's started showing real boxing skill and not just a great chin he could do that then retire as a genuine ATG. It's took a long time for Carl to sell himself completely to me but he has done that 100% now and I really hope he gets a Sky contract as to me even as a Haye fan, Froch is the most deserving of the huge money Skys PPV's draw in British boxing. Shame he isn't a HW then that division wouldn't be in the terrible state it's in now!!
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Bute is decent technician but Froch is too much for him imo, we will wait and see.
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Tam Seddon
It's great to see him back now and the performance against AA was a lot better than i expected. I knew he had the ability to be able to box like he did but I thought the middle rounds would have been a lot closer and carl would have won it down the stretch. He showed us that night that he is a great champion something that I have said on here for years would always happen, most of the time I got laughed at but supported carl well.
After the tournament what should be next for him ? try and rematch kessler ? fight Lucian Bute ? or move to 175 and try and make his name in that weight class. He has a win over Pascal who seems to be the biggest name at the weight class. If Pascal beats Bhop would a fight with Carl be good for boxing?
I want to see Carl keep going and think moving to 175 after the tournament would be a great idea, what do you think ?
Well that all depends on how he does, I think he takes Bute, Pascal will loose against BHOP and Dawson in rematches for me.
Would be a great fight but my money is on Bute...Bute can box he is faster and hits harder...Plus Bute is not beat up like the guys Froch's biggest wins came from...JT was shot after the second Pavlik fight....He was beating Froch til he gassed....Dirrell beat Froch and we all know it.....Froch was just too big for AA but it was perhaps Froch best performence IMO to date...I didn not see the Pascal fight so I cant make a judgement on if Pascal looked like shit and lost due to weight etc or just outclassed...
Haha you serious mate? Very unbias post that yes right!!, how about we talk about Butes shocking resume and the fighters he has fought which all have already been ruined or exposed? Miranda was it his third or fourth time of being knocked the fuck out? Or maybe Andrade who got schooled by Kessler about 4 years earlier? Loving the excuses for every fight lol, in reality you can do that with every fighter in every fight why they won/lost. Quite easy to sit here and say Abraham was to small but the fact of the matter is he was a favourite and majority had him knocking Carl out and Carl just schooled him.
Bute needs to actually fight someone, it is ok saying he is some body punching wrecking machine I have watched his last 4 fights now and I am not sure, he needs to step it up, I think Froch brings his a game he beats Bute.
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Tam Seddon
It's great to see him back now and the performance against AA was a lot better than i expected. I knew he had the ability to be able to box like he did but I thought the middle rounds would have been a lot closer and carl would have won it down the stretch. He showed us that night that he is a great champion something that I have said on here for years would always happen, most of the time I got laughed at but supported carl well.
After the tournament what should be next for him ? try and rematch kessler ? fight Lucian Bute ? or move to 175 and try and make his name in that weight class. He has a win over Pascal who seems to be the biggest name at the weight class. If Pascal beats Bhop would a fight with Carl be good for boxing?
I want to see Carl keep going and think moving to 175 after the tournament would be a great idea, what do you think ?
He said himself he has a "gentleman's agreement" to rematch Pascal providing he is still a champion at 175. Think it came from them 2 sparring each other. First fight was a cracker so I'd be open to seeing it happen again. Froch being Froch though, he'll fight anybody. I think his future will depend on what happens in the Super-Six.
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Froch's last 5 fights
Abraham
Kessler
Dirrell
Taylor
Pascal
Bute's last 5 fights
Brinkley
Miranda
Andrade
Zuniga
Andrade
It is utterly ridiculous to downplay the worth of Froch's opposition when comparing it with Bute's. Every fighter on Froch's list would beat Bute's opposition.
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Froch's last 5 fights
Abraham
Kessler
Dirrell
Taylor
Pascal
Bute's last 5 fights
Brinkley
Miranda
Andrade
Zuniga
Andrade
It is utterly ridiculous to downplay the worth of Froch's opposition when comparing it with Bute's. Every fighter on Froch's list would beat Bute's opposition.
That's some pretty impressive statistics. You should have ended your post with "FACT" for true emphasis.
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skel1983
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DaxxKahn
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skel1983
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Tam Seddon
It's great to see him back now and the performance against AA was a lot better than i expected. I knew he had the ability to be able to box like he did but I thought the middle rounds would have been a lot closer and carl would have won it down the stretch. He showed us that night that he is a great champion something that I have said on here for years would always happen, most of the time I got laughed at but supported carl well.
After the tournament what should be next for him ? try and rematch kessler ? fight Lucian Bute ? or move to 175 and try and make his name in that weight class. He has a win over Pascal who seems to be the biggest name at the weight class. If Pascal beats Bhop would a fight with Carl be good for boxing?
I want to see Carl keep going and think moving to 175 after the tournament would be a great idea, what do you think ?
Well that all depends on how he does, I think he takes Bute, Pascal will loose against BHOP and Dawson in rematches for me.
Would be a great fight but my money is on Bute...Bute can box he is faster and hits harder...Plus Bute is not beat up like the guys Froch's biggest wins came from...JT was shot after the second Pavlik fight....He was beating Froch til he gassed....Dirrell beat Froch and we all know it.....Froch was just too big for AA but it was perhaps Froch best performence IMO to date...I didn not see the Pascal fight so I cant make a judgement on if Pascal looked like shit and lost due to weight etc or just outclassed...
Haha you serious mate? Very unbias post that yes right!!, how about we talk about Butes shocking resume and the fighters he has fought which all have already been ruined or exposed? Miranda was it his third or fourth time of being knocked the fuck out? Or maybe Andrade who got schooled by Kessler about 4 years earlier? Loving the excuses for every fight lol, in reality you can do that with every fighter in every fight why they won/lost. Quite easy to sit here and say Abraham was to small but the fact of the matter is he was a favourite and majority had him knocking Carl out and Carl just schooled him.
Bute needs to actually fight someone, it is ok saying he is some body punching wrecking machine I have watched his last 4 fights now and I am not sure, he needs to step it up, I think Froch brings his a game he beats Bute.
UMM OK did not think the post was a reason to rant and curse just a word on why you don't agree with me is fine but whatever...Just have to see what happens if they meet..
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If he wins, I really want to see him fight Bute. That would be a great clash of styles and a possible FOTY candidate.
Agree. I want to see him fight Bute win or even if lost against Glen Johnson. Bute v. Froch would be a great fight for boxing.
Yeah, I agree totally. Bute needs to step up and I've become a pretty big Froch fan over the last little while. It's a fight that has to happen. I wonder if Bute would take it if Froch lost or it he'd just hold out for the eventual winner.
Unless Kessler is back, Froch is the biggest fight for Bute at 168 if Froch loses. In fact, I bet Bute tries his hand at the losers of the S6 next round. At 168, the losers of the S6 are still the best super middleweights out there.
I hope so, but he might be content to sell out the Bell Centre against mediocre opposition while waiting for the winner. I think he's anxious to step up though.
He left HBO to sign with Showtime though. That means to me that he wants to face a step up in competition. Brain Magee certainly isn't it, but that fight is occuring in March, around the time that Froch and Ward face Johnson and AA. It would make sense, barring injuries in the fights, for Bute to face one of the losers of the Froch and Ward matches. The problem is that if AA is destroyed by Ward, which we agree in all likelihood will happen, I bet he drops down to 160 or takes a break from boxing for a while, and if Froch beats Johnson, which is also more likely than not, I doubt Bute would face Johnson because of their friendship.
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Froch's last 5 fights
Abraham
Kessler
Dirrell
Taylor
Pascal
Bute's last 5 fights
Brinkley
Miranda
Andrade
Zuniga
Andrade
It is utterly ridiculous to downplay the worth of Froch's opposition when comparing it with Bute's. Every fighter on Froch's list would beat Bute's opposition.
Froch has faced better competition than Bute hands down. Actually, Froch has faced better competition than any boxer at 168 including Ward. And really if you think about it, Froch has faced better competition than most boxers out there in his last five fights, save maybe, Sergio Martinez and other top p4p boxers.
Ward's last 5:
Bika
Green
Kessler
Pudwill
Miranda
Bute and Ward have comparable cv's. Ward's best win is better than Bute's best win, but Bute's wins overall are on par, if not better, than Ward's.
As you all know, I'm a Bute fan, and I believe he poses stylistic problems for Froch. I've also become a Froch fan. Froch had problems with Dirrell who moved and was faster than him and he had problems with Taylor because he was faster than him. Bute will be faster than him too and more accurate than both Taylor and Dirrell. But, Froch is a tough cookie, I wouldn't count him out of this fight, and Froch fights all twelve rounds, Bute has shown in the past, some weakness in stamina. The final rounds could be very interesting. In fact, I think the fight is a close match, which is why I would love to see it.
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I think the fight with Glen Johnson is going to be very intersting. Unlike AA I think Glen will invite more pressure on Carl and wont be afraid to take a few to get a few in there. The lack of effort it seemed from AA really shocked me and although carl boxed really well I didnt expect that from AA at all. If a fight breaks out between carl and glen i think we will have a really action packed fight. But carl showing the ability to box like he did against AA and adjust is something I knew he had in his game for years although most people thought he just had a punchers chance I knew he had the ability to use his feet and box. Using that side of the game I think he will be enough to beat the old warrior Johnson.
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Froch at this stage should KO Johnson. That is a sign of respect. He shouldn't be fighting and so he needs that little nudge. Johnson will be beaten up.
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Froch at this stage should KO Johnson. That is a sign of respect. He shouldn't be fighting and so he needs that little nudge. Johnson will be beaten up.
Johnson is tough as nails though, hes only ever been stopped once in all of his loses and you know hes going to give everything he has in the ring right until the last round. I dont think Carl will stop him, but I think he will be too much for him over 12 rounds definatly
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Froch at this stage should KO Johnson. That is a sign of respect. He shouldn't be fighting and so he needs that little nudge. Johnson will be beaten up.
Johnson is tough as nails though, hes only ever been stopped once in all of his loses and you know hes going to give everything he has in the ring right until the last round. I dont think Carl will stop him, but I think he will be too much for him over 12 rounds definatly
That's where I stand to. Froch should win on the cards, but Johnson's always dangerous.
